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Would reading count as hearing or seeing. Or is that sperate? How much of what I read should be believed?
Just because he didn't write the article doesn't mean anything. Maybe someone wrote it for him. Huh did you think of that twist? That way he could truthfully say he didn't write it.
I'm actually on your side StockItOut. I just know there are people out there still begging for the article to be a miracle. Get over it everybody SIO is right. The article is bogus. It gave a half a penny jump for a day. I hope you took advantage of it because that is all it's going to give. Cancel your Tesla model X order, sorry.
Correction name server domain url, not host server.
Twice now in interviews Ted and Mitch have been quoted as "having something up their sleeve". Ominous similarity of quotes you seem to make...
So we all know that the IssueWire website gives a address in India on the contact us page. Lots of Indi ties for HMNY. What incentive would the site operators have to remove the posted article? I have heard that it is due to high traffic but it's not a very large page. IssueWire and HMNY website registered by GoDaddy. Tons of websites are registered by GoDaddy, I understand. But they are both served off the same domian server. I'm just saying. Helios Matheson big history and connections with India. IssueWire website Kalkutta India contact address. Both registered with GoDaddy.
Anyone familiar enough with AH trading to have an analogy on the chart behavior. Any thoughts on the sudden jump before end of after hours trading?
I also find I odd that MarketWatch graphic chart omits the final 1½ hours of AH trade where the pps recovers back to almost .02 but does report the price. Lots of crazy crazy going on with this stock.
Answered my own questions. Ok, the Live Nation news is BS. Sorry I was focused on the rest of the market for most of the day, then tied up with family and a plumbing leak captivated me the rest of the evening. Didn't get a chance to catch up on the MB posts till late. So has anyone emailed the "journalist" that is associated to the article? Seems like he is rather popular if you do a search online. Thoughts on if he is a victim in the spoof or just looking to aquire publicity for his own name. I noticed that the website gives the opportunity to publish one free article.
If the deal was days away from final wouldn't the meeting and R/S be cancelled? Also last news out release when Ted said no BK and 65m in funding, the stock shot up to .05 with news of a complete HMNY buyout shouldn't we have seen a higher price than .02? Tons of volume today and I can only see that as being buys. So any volume after mid morning news must have been more equity distribution. Also AH volume is only 2.5m I'm just curious because HMNY would only be able to dump during regular day hours, right? Also would pps see a direct relationship to the proposed buyout amount? Is .46 the expected buyout to the shareholders? I'm just not seeing the market reaction to the claimed news. Don't get me wrong excited like the rest of the group but just not seeing what I would expect.
MazelTed
Well Sinemia is in Canada. I don't know what kind of traction MP is going to get by making territory impotency announcements.
Mad at Mitch, for telling the truth? Go back and re-read my post.
My response was explaining why the article did not stoke a bullish response in today's trading.
Facts are good. But the venue and the manner of which Mitch revealed them will not result in any positive sentiment. And they shouldn't. Because they are negative facts, right. But from a business stand point, bad timing. So nope, not mad. Just being critical of the many poor choices made. Should I make a reciprical inferance that you were exstatic from his remarks in the article? I bet not. How proud are you with your investment now that you know? Do you think the pps will increase with this new information coming out? How about knowing that "hey we're the spitoon of America, and we're coming to Spain". I hope you don't see that as bullish news. Mitch has a successful resume so I trust his words more than Ted (plus I think Mitch has a conscience). But maybe he could have released the sub count information at a venue intended for the current member audience "America". And placed sub count next to some hard money numbers (hopefully closer to positive). And he could have just omitted the Mexico/Canada info. People don't need to know where your business doesn't fit. We're already having a hard enough time believing it works at all.
That is the funniest thing I have heard all day.
For one it didn't get any public mention on any major news sites. We are about the only people to see it. Plus it's written in Spanish. We are a small group of people with a translated version available (thanks to the member that did translate it for us, verymuch appreciate your time to have done so). Also the expansion is planned for after 2019. The vote is in three days and 1st de-list deadline is in Dec. Also untill profit is proven more members just equates to the potential of more expense. If you read deeper into the article I see two very negative things. First Mitch states the number of subscribers. 2.1m, that information is negative-neutral. Also he made a Big mistake in admiting Mexico and Canada are poor prospects due to cinema chain dominance. What was he thinking? I think the international expansion is positive but he really screwed the pooch by letting the other facts out. Too soon on releasing sub count and letting us know about limitations in the other markets was just dumb. I'm glad it was in Spanish, I hope as few people as possible get the chance to read it. Because of that article I know where pps should be and it's not where anyone wants it to be. I hope for something else in the next couple days to help other than the last news.
I'm not arguing. I am with you on the lying Ted thing. But didn't he say a "few weeks"?
My guess in addition to your intelligent post is that since the Canaccord contract ended they have been aquiring Treasury shares to reduce the loose shares to restrict availability for shorts. As well as to create a cache of shares to sell rather than dilute with the newly available shares.
It's only 20m. I think they had the money available and just got it to produce public news so that people would say things like "who ever gave them the $20m would do their DD and they would expect to get paid." Little fishy took the bait. I bet they already got paid back. Just like when I get cash advances on my credit card and immediatly send off the same money I just advanced to bring my credit score up a couple points. They don't need loans right now. Patent settlement and future agreement will provide cash and ongoing income. My interest in HMNY is one thing only. The patent and future rights for it's licensing. The big picture has not one thing to do with movies. My money rides on the future of subscription payments. MP is just proof of concept and it and Movie Fone will be shed from HMNY. That's the future agreement concept I see for the agreement between them and Sinemia. That's why Sinemia came out with the franchise option for theaters. MP and MF will be handed to Sinemia on a silver platter after the subscription payment system is established. Then Sinemia gets to go public and hit the ground running with enough momentum to fledge with AMC.
I had 100,000 share buy setups on Friday floating 0.0001 below the ask. I was lucky to get 25,000 shares filled. I can call out Mondays chart right now. Open slight up tick, then sell off down to about 10% below the open then a frequency of trade fluctuation of ten thousands of a penny till after lunch where traders will give up out of frustration but HMNY won't let it get to down to the mornings low. Then the rest of the afternoon they will just trade .0001 above the bid and give up as few shares as possible. The close will be about -9.87%. The days low is always mid morning and is captured by HMNY where they then sell just above bid the rest of the day. Fridays low is in the afternoon because nobody wants to hold it over the weekend and that's where they load up for Monday. That is why they make no PR statements to stay clear of any accusations of inside trading. Their filing states that they can short their stock. Call me wrong on Monday afternoon if you like but I'm confident I'm not. It's how I stage my buys everyday.
I don't know why people continue to need to be explained that share distribution/dilution is a straight up fact. Quit arguing with StockItOut that it is not. The writting is on the wall and in the filings. It is ignorant to say anything other than "HMNY needs to, plans to and states very publicly that they will". I don't care if they had 100m on hand, no debt and break even on subs. These guys would continue to distribute equity. Why get financing? That costs interest and you have to pay it back. Even now without a equity distributor they have stated before that they give themselves the right to short their own stock. How else do you think the last 2 days have seen the volume they have? Canaccord was done on Wed. HMNY just stepped in and sold off till they got to .017 then jocked between thousands of a penny the rest of the day. The future R/S has nothing to do with reserve shares. It has to do with them selling shares for bills not pennies.
Adam Aaron was recently quoted as stating that 45% of A-list members were not earlier a part of their Stubs program. Again taking that information and their recent growth numbers I am suspecting that those are the movie markets super users congregating over from MP. Also earnings have not been released as of yet. But I have posted a link to forcasts of a .45/share loss for last quarter for AMC. I see only MP as having provided any increase in profit for theaters and producers. The A-list product only provides more movies sessions and less profit. The MP product has been the only service to allow the movie viewer to spend more out of pocket on concessions which is where theaters make their gravy. As brought up to me in a response post, MP has heavy limitations on movie availability. I don't know the limits because I admittedly am not a MP sub, but have thought that these limitations may very well be double purposed. One so they may reduce costs for MP. But also the theater chains may be served by filling seats at lower attendance times. I have read that it is the theater chain that chooses the movies and times of availability. I work as an independent contractor who distributes product for end user consumption. But I consider the vendors my customers, not the end user.
I agree about the serious doubts on subscriber base #. HMNY website claims 2m. MP website States "join over 3m" very questionable where the number lands. I was just taking a stab in the dark by using a super user percentage of 5% which would be 150000. And with A list jumping from 260000 up to the recently announced 400000 saw a correlation. I am inclined to trust my values if over the next week's/months the A-list sub count levels off which I have suspicion it will, but just theories.
No, not a sub. Website shows 7 or 8 movies for today's list. Does it vary by location? I have been considering signing up so I can speak more knowledgablely of such things.
With AMCs increase in A-list subscribers I anticipate an earnings per share decrease of AMC stock due to loss of profit from super user transfer from MP contributing to lower revenue impact from recent subscription growth.
Evaluating the subscriber numbers at this point is important for the week as it will surely be used as catalyst PR this week or the next. Seeing that A-list is up to a potential of 400k subs and my assumption that Sinemia and Cinemark subs a null in the calculation. Also factoring in HMNY/MP subscription medling I forcast announced subs count to be nominaly decreased. As in healthcare. I believe a small percentage of users to been the largest cost. Again as in healthcare I am putting the super user percentage at 5% and putting their cost at over 50%. Those users most likely moved on to A-list if available in their area. So I estimate about 150000 less than previously announced 3.2m then with the added non committed fair weather fans at about the same. Also with MP website still proclaiming over 2m subs. My final estimate falls above 2.5m and just below 3m.
HMNY never fails to surprise me. They play their hand in an absolutely obnoxious manner and I have some really outrageous forcast outcomes for the next few days. This story will not fall short of outlandishly unbelievable. Even if you don't own this security, if your an investor your watching it.
At this point lots of emotions getting in the way between us. It would be best for us to either not take every opinion too seriously. Many things could happen. No one way can be definativly known. To allow for us a chance to evaluate all possiblities serves the collaborative good. It's a puzzle and very much obviously designed as such by the powers that be. I'm sure to leave themselves with open avenues to give opportunistic opportunity for whatever situation presents itself to said powers. There are no real dates of interest in front of us except the special meeting. We have till Thursday to evaluate HMNY/MP next move. I suspect that they would prefer a higher pps to serve as compliment influence over vote decision as well as to provide an adequate post R/S pps result. Although the meeting takes place on Oct18th it isn't untill Dec that the 1st deadline for delist occurs. A 2nd extension could be requested. I can see many different combinations of decisions and various results. I am guess HMNY/MP has a basic preferred path. It would be near impossible for us to discern HMNY/MP proposed direction. We need to take this day by day and evaluate each segment piece by piece as we go along. This weeks actions are all we need to focus on. I believe that since Canaccord is out of the picture that any share control is influenced by HMNY directly. They have enough capital to buy back every share if they so choose to do so. I also believe that that is why they have gone PR dark. In order to enable themselves to trade in and out of their own stock they would have to not infuence it's price at all or be vulnerable to insider trading accusations. We know A/S & O/S but we do not know Treasury shares. I forcast no P/R this week. The only information release will be a filing just before the meeting or even forthcoming during the meeting. This stock still has a hair trigger on it. Maybe a slight twitch earlier in the week to get attention and remind people of the meeting. Followed by something to get price up on top of the vote to get people to hold on enough to ride through the vote and provide altitude in resulting pps after vote, most certainly to follow on the day after. Leaving only Friday for market vulnerability. The following two weeks have important PR catalyst dates contained and could carry the stock price long enough to achieve the ten day $1 price the necessary ten days. I do believe we will hold above and remain listed but I do believe that your shares value will be greatly reduced in the process after the R/S as collateral damage in order to provide for the continued listing. There after the meeting the newly issuable shares will provide many times more profit for HMNY. It is very simple and very complex and very legal.
A nice article providing a glimpse into the Sinemia experience. To me it shows how valuable the debit card payment transaction system and patent held by MP truly is.
https://www.google.com/amp/flavorwire.com/614825/is-sinemia-the-moviepass-alternative-youre-looking-for/amp
So far AH we are at half the volume of all todays trading... I'm hoping for a big day Friday for HMNY. Early forcasts looks good for the entire market. Get ready to be busy with your whole portfolio tomorrow.
So on a day that everyone is tuned in and waiting for a MP PR, turns out it's a bait and switch and we get Sinemia PR instead. All the while a bit of research and it can be found that the patent infringement ruling has been delayed (yet again) untill just after R/S special meeting (big surprise... not). Also we see Sinemia acting similarly to MP Ventures by creating a separate trendy "Enterprise" division title to handle a new concept of basically franchising the subscription model to smaller movie theater chains. In my opinion, it just shows what I see as a potential indicator of hand holding between MP and Sinemia. Anyway the key to the movie subscription service is all about the card for the transaction and the ability to go to any theater I want. The notion that creating micro subscription services limited to certain theater chains is again the nullifying factor that limits the consumer. It isn't the universal Pass to any Movie anywhere. It's simply a membership. Theater chains would be better served to sell monthly blocks of movie tickets and track it by giving the consumer a piece of paper and tracking by using a paper punch. My opinion is that MP and Sinemia are lovers who met after a car accident and Sinemia gets to walk out front because Sinemia is untarnished and MP is beatup, rugged and publicly unloved.
- Yes, I own shares of HMNY. And I just want to make some profit. Don't judge me or my opinions. Go ahead and take my advice if you like, it's free.
Thx, glad to hear that. So tomorrow should perhaps be the first true day of valid market trade opportunity
If that is the case then tomorrow I feel could most likely will be an "any price goes" sell-a-thon (as if it already hasn't been). As HMNY looks to aquire as much capital as possible. I hope we are wrong but the notice from Canaccord to Helios was received on the 1st. Contract said ten day window to lapse service, so I'm gathering you are correct.
I don't remember who here has a pacer acct but there is new info I can not open on pacer. Please review and post if possible. Thx in advance.
Tuesday, October 09, 2018
31 3 pgs motion Stay Case (to Lift) Tue 3:22 PM
Joint REQUEST to Lift Stay re Case and set deadline for Sinemia to respond to complaint on October 29, 2018 filed by Plaintiff MoviePass Inc.. (Brown, Nicholas)
Att: 1 2 pgs Proposed Order
The most pertinent information I would like to know is regarding Canaccord. The filing states effective Oct 11 that their contract is cancelled. I'm looking for if that means they are done distributing shares as of today or if they will cease as of end of day tomorrow? Tomorows trade characteristic is dependant on this information. We will either get to see a day without share influx or finally a true day of trades with only existing shares on market. Anybody have knowledge of this?
I'm not sure if your intending on us to scan through the filing for information you feel is important that we need to discover or if we are supposed to labor over the document to provide you with information. I think that in the current moment we all should spend a little more time explaining our thoughts and sharing whole ideas rather than creating the complex treasure hunt posts that have been pulling up and leading to no serious comprehension of our situation as longs or shorts I have the best of luck and profit for all of us. Lots of things going on and if the tone of this MB could become more focused and clear we may be able to make more accurate decisions.
My guess is that any positive news will be sheltered untill after R/S, in order to promote pps stability. I was somewhere on the web looking at legal sites and think today changed to a day where a report of the agreement between MP and Sinemia had to be submitted to the court but the actual court session was scheduled for the 22nd. Just another push off by the controlling powers. Not a surprise because it would suit their schedule of events. Just another way to get folks to vote in favor of R/S and hang on just a bit longer.
Does Canaccord have untill end of day tomorrow or was today their last day of involvement? Also would investors have been notified through filing of a replacement equity distributor if there was one?
Interested. Please elaborate about the "past/present" trade investigations.
And with regard to Cannacord cancelling their contract. Wouldn't we see a filing if an arrangement was made to use another equity distribution group?
I guess my big question for the day is "what about the infringement ruling"? Wasn't today the date to which the ruling was stayed? So where would that information be? Has the agreement been stayed yet again? The patent is the only real tangable value holding that HMNY has that I see. So I only want to know what the agreement and ruling we're regarding the infringement case. Anybody have anything on that?