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1mil what did u mean here?
Cheekie no reason to doubt you, I don't follow it, why wouldn't Apdn put these in a pr? They show up at a conference with 50 other exhibitors and they plaster that all over the internet. I will take a patent email as being closer to revenue than showing up at a conference with a booth. Frustration boiling here, as the money keeps getting thrown in the fireplace. Half way thru month 4 of 2017 and not a sniff of revenue pr.
Nice find Sol, the patent trail, has gone ice cold. With 80 odd in motion, I would think we would hear about one of them in the last 2 years. I would rather see 12mm in revs than a patent update if I had my choice. With no revs to speak of next the area Apdn is not delivering is patents. Frustrating all around.
Lenny I am just putting a video that the COMPANY APDN PUT OUT on their website. I didn't find a video that may work from some other company that can apply to Apdn. That's the technology solution that Apdn has now available I guess. If you think it's really slick technology and think it will be a game changer stock is cheap. If not short the hell out of the stock. Not sure what's so hilarious about the post. I'm the last guy on this board with my head buried in the sand. Did Aaron Rodgers ruin ur love affair with Dak?
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Speaking of patents....we have about 60 patents pending??? We haven't had one granted in the last year and half ?? We haven't had one mentioned that it is being reviewed or close to getting granted? I'm not saying it's easy to get a patent but it seems like they got a lot of them granted 2 years ago and prior and not a word since. Did we get the low hanging patents first and the involved ones are left to be granted. I don't have a clue what the patents we already have cover for us or what they are. worth from a competitive standpoint. This thing goes under all we have are the patents for sale.
https://vimeo.com/194087019 Video on the website shows the machine the pharmacist would use to authenticate if the pills are legit. Looks pretty easy to use and takes only 15 minutes to authenticate.
http://nypost.com/2016/12/28/con-artist-raked-in-1m-returning-designer-bag-knockoffs/
Putting a hidden DNA code has to be cheaper than hiring a team of experts. Just saw these articles waiting for my dwindling football fix to kick in.
EBay to put its stamp on the genuine article
New York Post15 Jan 2017
Getty Images
GET REAL: EBay plans to authenticate handbags and other high-end items.
EBay will begin giving its own Good Houskeeping-style seal of approval to the luxe items on its site.
The online retailer will authenticate luxury handbags, footwear and other commonly counterfeited fashion items this year, looking to gain an edge as shoppers become more wary of the abundance of fake goods posted to online marketplaces.
The company will use a network of brand experts to verify that a Chanel handbag listed on the marketplace, for instance, is real. Sellers can pay for the authentication service to win the confidence of shoppers, or shoppers can pay for the service with eBay’s pledge that the sale will be nullified if the item is fake.
Fees have yet to be determined, the San Jose, Calif.-based company said late last week.
EBay is following online luxury consignment startup The RealReal in San Francisco, which authenticates items and said it sold almost $400 million in second-hand designer apparel, handbags, jewelry and other merchandise in 2016, about double the previous year’s sales.
Authentication works best with items priced high enough to pay an expert, hence the focus on luxury.
Sites such as those run by Alibaba Group, Amazon and eBay are ideal places for counterfeiters to do business because purchases are made based on digital images and product descriptions, making it tougher to spot a fake than it would be in a store.
Counterfeits made up almost $500 billion, or 2.5 per- cent, of global imports in 2013, a figure expected to grow as more spending moves online, according to an April report by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.
China is the biggest source of phony goods, with footwear and apparel among the most counterfeited merchandise.
Amazon in November took legal action for the first time against vendors it said were selling fake products on its marketplace.
We are so overdue for some revenue pr from the techmer pilot. Going on over 2 years it seems and still nothing. Hopefully this courtship gets consummated with some revenue offspring.
I didn't read the filing but most warrants have a lock up period. When u are the only one at the table with the cash you make the rules . They put a non dilution clause in there which is smart to protect their investment. I'm sure they get first shot if Apdn needs to go to the well again to raise cash. You would be an idiot not to have those clauses in ur investment. I know I don't have a non dilution clause....OUCH
If sabby profits we all reduce our losses. The stock has to trade thru the option value or at least where they own outright shares for sabby to profit. If ur cost base is above the sabby levels you will not profit. If sabby profits revenue pr's will be here. Sabby profit is a good thing.
When u don't have revenue your at the mercy of everyone because you don't control your destiny. Dr Haywoodudilute us can put a stop to all this nonsense with revenue. With no revenue in the 1st qtr assumption would be 1/2 of the sabby money already gone. I don't know about receivables and other nonworthy pr revenue they had. First qtr has been a disaster historically for this company. So no real surprise.
Hope they can afford the airfare and lodging for the trip at that time.
Only thing that is a positive with the strategic board is we have 3 seasoned proven successful business people who will now be advising Haywood. Adult business supervision is obviously needed and can hopefully get this thing off the ground.
The odds are going to be stacked in favor of the skeptical narrative until they prove the technology is financially viable. Obviously that hasn't happened, but I'm hopeful I will have some rebuttal for you sometime in 2017. If not the financial pain will continue for my wallet.
Sol only thing u missed was the posts were from 2012. The 2016 product version way more user friendly.
Can we please STOP with the Pepsi product nonsense. If it happens it will be a 2018 revenue piece at the earliest. They have to do various trials, install equipment on sight, probably get sign offs from 10 different areas within the firm AINT Happening What will happen is KHAN will lend his expertise as Applied DNA attempts to expand its supply-chain, anti-counterfeiting and anti-theft technologies to the food production, packaging and delivery markets.
Khan also recently appointed vice chairman of the nonprofit U.S. Council for Competitiveness and joined the board of directors of the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Foundation for Food and Agriculture Research. Can be a big push in agriculture which is the money card for 2017.
He is here to put his shoulder behind our existing business verticals. This monetization better happen quick or get ready for a summer fundraising dilution PR.
Nice find rode...khan seems like the perfect background for what Apdn is trying to accomplish. As always hope it leads to revenues.
Article today about Amazon may be buying an apparel company. Counterfeiting major issue on line.
An added benefit to buying the retailer: American Apparel
owns a clothing factory in Los Angeles. That would position
Amazon to respond to apparel trends more quickly than
competitors that make clothes overseas -- a major advantage in
this age of fast fashion.
Plus, many apparel brands are reluctant to sell on Amazon
because they’re afraid counterfeiters will swamp the site with
fakes, confusing and angering their customers. With a factory,
Amazon could make similar clothes and steal customers from big-
name brands, a move that in turn could force those brands to put
their products on Amazon.
There’s one more thing. That factory employs about 4,000
people and would give Amazon Chief Executive Officer Jeff Bezos
an opportunity to trumpet his Made in U.S.A. bona fides. Not a
bad thing with Donald Trump about to move into the White House.
Hope that is the case. The dr said cotton season goes till Jan of 2017 ...I believe. We have no pr's with revenue after Sept for cotton. Pretty disappointing upon that front. Thought he was setting us up for more revs in the pipeline....NOT.
Hayward has been sitting on this pr since October. Maybe he has a few others in his pocket he hasn't revealed in regard to first qtr revs. If not (as has been the case before) means no revs to speak about. If no revs is the case in 1st qtr.. 9 months left in 2017 they need at least a 1mm a month in revs or we will be seeing the money raise Pr down the road. Dr you need revenue pr's to get this thing moving north. Benefit of the doubt time is over, that was used up. SHOW ME THE MONEY
Speed your best post of all time. The bar was low to start.
That's a whole different level of a phone call if/when he calls a business oversees or here and has something he says they should know about. That meeting gets planned on that call.
Getting some pretty impressive people who are coming over to the dark side who want to help Apdn and more important be associated with this firm.
The Apdn car will go as far as the amount of pr gas that is in their tank. This car only takes revenue related pr's for gas. It used to be able to run on any pr, those days seem behind us.
When u see the Kirkland sheets on line some of the packages have the pimacott label and some don't . Not sure if some are still out there that haven't been sprayed with Apdn joy juice.
I think it's pimacott that is the brand name that means verified 100%. If you don't dna verify the product u can't legally use the term is the way I understand it. Good to see the pimacott brand name in a few different retailers.
Hopefully this is a nice expansion of the existing business already established and up and running from 2016. We are only as good as our cotton biz which hopefully will change in 2017.
Bruce can we conclude this is a deal done with Apdn? im not sure if the pimacott brand means 100% that Apdn was the source used to guarantee the 100% of type of cotton used.
Any timeline on when the retailer news go public? I had heard when the product hits the shelves, not sure if that's end of apdns 2nd qtr/March or the 3rd qtr.
First qtr ends today no new news so assume the tagging season that goes thru December had no biz other than what we know about already. More pressure on the next 3 qtrs. Same blueprint
Tax loss selling obviously not helping. Sell get write off and wait 30 days to get back in if u can still stomach the game. Risk is a major revenue pr or in the next 30 days and have to get back in at a higher level than u sold. Not a risky move. Hope I'm wrong. Doubt it.
Speed what ur preaching is obvious. Of course the stock was GOING DOWN in 2016 the Revenues WENT DOWN IN 2016. THE CASH BURN went up. I think u have a much bigger problem with the posters than you do with company. I am fine with that and want all opinions good or bad. Not to steal your thunder, but guess what until a revenue producing pr comes out the stock will GO DOWN in 2017. I'm long and waiting...2nd year of a firm in sales mode as opposed to proving a concept which they have in cotton and car marking. Both WILL GROW REVENUE THIS YEAR.
Sol, these people are on the inside and know they would need the sabby money and would be diluted at that time. I don't think it's lack of confidence in the product, just smart investing sense at this moment in time. If they had no confidence there would be a turnstile at the door with these people running for the exit. I think that is the show of confidence right now in a startup operation. Judge by their employment actions which is a much bigger investment than buying stock they can do at a future date, when the revenue comes in.
We are on the same page, think he said at the present time, $890, 000 a month. Hoping we can cut into a large chunk of that in 2017. Hopefully the big retailer can provide a boost, I wouldn't be able to guess what that's worth. Expecting a low number and hope to be surprised on the upside works for my outlook.
Hock I thought I heard from the imperial presentation the burn was about 900,000 a
month. Hope that's the case, we hopefully can actually start talking about closing the burn gap , than wondering how bad it will be in 2017.
The issuing of shares for a cash starved startup is not uncommon. I will say this my biggest fear, which u bring up that is not fair and I will be pissed , is if they restike the options for the employees. They should feel the pain of all shareholders while they become cash flow positive whenever that is.
The shorts for the first Itime will a have a risk in 2017...so far shorts have had nothing to worry about and I give u that.... the story will be ...here is a startup that has increased revenue by 50% in 2017 and will be close to breakeven....shouldn't be classified with the rest of penny stock pump and dump firms....beauty of a market, buyers and sellers.
Speed in ur opinion what % will revenues increase or decrease in 2017 vs 2016?
Speed . Anybody who married this stock has obviously gotten run over. Including me. I think we finally (in pro football fans terms) have a defense , meaning we have a base of revenue that gets us close to the no dilution zone. No guarantee there.
Bigger picture,2016 was a huge disappointment revenue wise, and insiders I'm sure new dilution was coming. ( why add to position)Everyone knew it was coming. More important is what does 2017 bring. Cotton they marked 100 mil plus the overhang from 2015 that was used also. Conservatively with the big retailer on board you can count on 200 mil in cotton this year. Using 3 cents (if they get 4 cents even better) gets 6 mil,and the car marking was 1/2 mill in rev which is expanding to 2nd car company and the original car company is going to a new country should be 1mm in revs. That's 7 mil right there (maybe more depending on what they charge) with plastics and govt revenue as the wild card. I have Apdn with a 60 % chance of breakeven this year.