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OT: cj
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my comment on the NEOM board was in relation to inforit making a comment about HIS investment style that he "Hopes" something on neom
reread this
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9469675
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my comment to him was "hope" is not an investment style - and DD is what counts - here with zeroluv's comment about "hope" that these moves are in our interest? - only time will tell -
but if you want to discuss you can reach me on my cell at 516-662-1283
ok - and when they issues 20 million shares from the authorized to double the float - and those shares are sold - the pps remains the same?
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yes, right now today, I own the same % of the company. that is a fact -
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well no one answered my query - was the authorized divided by 80? if not - when they issue more shares my % goes down. Not on 2/6/06 - but if they authorize more shares on 9/6/06 my % no longer stays the same.
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Fine - if you do not share my concern - then fine - but you are all sounding like management has been forth right with us over the last 18 months and that is not the case.
I certainly will not give then a clean slate now -
Show me when you PR something - you meet that date - after a few times then you might be believed.
let me look back at that comment - I do not believe I had high hopes for this stock - I thought my pps was achievable the way were were - entering the market as we were - with the new government interest - BYW my pps projection was .30 four years ago - when we were not even in this market.
now I was commenting on post #1264 - which by zeroluv looks to the future - and I used "high hopes" - in regards to the board posting when we merged with kelly companies and the tone of everybodys' posts then - I believe myself and static where the only ones to douse water on the party for projections to 2005 - which never materialized.
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Tobin and NEOM - if you look at MB projections in July 2005 - NEVER materialized - look at what people are posting now - Tobin is still pumping and he and his team can not even get straight in his pumps the SAIC is no longer in the picture.
But as you say - let me look at my high hopes comment on that board - do you remember the # - and compare it to my response to what zeroluv just said.
Jer
thanks for keeping me honest
zeroluv - I'll just book mark that post - we'll see where we stand in 6 months - high hopes is one thing - but in July 2005 we had high hopes also - the net result of those high hopes was a 80:1 R/S.
due to dilution - I expect the company to issues more shares over time - we have seen the share price go down in the last 18 months from 5 cents to .008 due to selling - now we are at .70 - tho the price may go up - lets say to chucks break even of 1.44 - when they issue more shares and people sell those shares in large quanties - I do not expect the price to go up - history tells us on large sales - the price will go down -
now I do not understand from you?
Are you telling me the share structure will stay the same for the next 5 years and we can expect no more dilution on a smaller share structure?
In addition What is the share structure NOW?
Float decreased 80:1 - how about restricted and Authorized shares - what did they do with those? just give me the mgmt link on the adjustment?
It differs in your growth potential in a stock - you buy in and overtime you look for a return - was $1.00 realistic at < 600,000 shares in the float - maybe; is $80 realistic with alot more dilution planned in the future - probably not!! so my target prior to R/S is now reduced - if this gets to $25 in my lifetime - I'll be surprised.
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If you buy a stock - to just hit your break even - then you should probably just buy CD's - I look for growth over time - as I have said before I am a long - maybe toooo long - but a real long.
OT I just learned my lesson - the lesson of a lifetime - INCA on the exchange we are trying to get to - just announced a R/S 80:1 - on the day of the R/S - they posted the action on 2/2 - but their was no news announcement - now the day of the R/S - there is a PR - from now on I am going to check the exchanges for announcements of changes - INCA was not a pink sheet - supposedly a reporting compnay - and this is the exchange we are trying to get to with HISC - if mgmt of a pink wants to R/S - even if they say no R/S it is in the cards maybe - just look at IGTG.pk and that mess.
Chuck - I am not interested in breaking even with the stocks I own. My est for "PPS Growth" was $1 - prior to the R/S -
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How long do you think it will take to get to $80?
And do you believe the share structure will remain the same as it is on 02/03/2006?
We'll see how serious mgmt is - PLNI, HISC, IGTG are all moving to a higher exchange - but really getting there takes management commitment - when was the last time you saw management snail mail to the shareholders at INCA?
to attain my pps projection prior to the R/S -and now after the R/S- they now have to hit $80 pps - my future value for share growth has been robbed from me by management. Since I have been here for 4 years - my future value has been robbed - if they dilute any future shares - the robbing will continue - and with no notification from management to loyal shareholders - then I just have to shake my head???
notrapnc - i try not to read the board every day - I am happy with my position - every few days i check teh board - but looking fora long term situation here
chuck - a good laugh for the night LOL eom thanks
OT: GW - how is the wife? Is she okay now?
i vote for grandpappy being a board moderator - he asks a leading questions - that he clearly knows the answer to - and then burns the guy who delivers it - hey grandpappy moderators are ave people like me - maybe not you tho. - If they have the time to watch over the board - why give them problems - YOU SHOULD BE A MODERATOR - OR JUST STOP WITH THE LEADING QUESTIONS BS
PClick - very nice
reminds me of the story - where he was walking with a person - then there were only 1 set of footprints - when the person looked back - he said why me - why did you leave me - the response came - that was my footsteps carrying you.
that was a nice few frames )
DD - new phone- Sony Ericsson W600
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5624649627891135141
inforit: your tone " ace " - I am not an ace - just and investor - I buy stocks of companies I believe to go up OVER TIME - my horizon is about 2017 - I believe Neom will go up over that horizon - it has a niche market that it will propser in - if it makes those agreements - then yes - It will be great for the stock OVER TIME - if this gets back to 50 cents in two years - that will be good to my time frame - the first rise to .74 was a Tobin pump - the stake that was touted last year - has come and gone - NEOM will rise on its own merits as it reports revenue and profit every 3 months.
The last qtr revenue was ALL ABOUT THE PAINT BUSINESS - NEOM is all about paint. As profits from the expansion to China rise - so does net profit.
remember your post befoe was about HOPE and your investment style - you put your"HOPE" on a public message board - so it becomes free to be discussed by anyone.
GL to you
"out landish projections " - this makes no sence?
May West - had a projection in 2005 at $1 - few other people had other projections - just like it - no one took them to task?
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QP? - yes - a few posted before - a historical run at a QP for the stock market?
typically this kind of posting is the worse kind - that is why we have a moderator - if someone uses the wrong language or the like they get put in jail - other than that if they post on the company - then bring on the different views - other than that - if you post - tell how the post ties to the company business plans - or brings in revenues to us
again inforit - if that was your plan - you will be sad - this is a company growing on a 2-4 year plan - just to touch 50 cents again.
inforit - I have been on the board for 2 years and have seen some out landish projections - where the time period has come and gone - our company has patents - with a value - some value in moble marketing - but there are alot of companies with the same mobile marketing plan (IBM, INSP, to name a few) - and we have an micropaint business. no revenue to speak of outside of paint.
talk the company - I have seen alot of posting about the industry - which is going gang busters - but I would rather see growth in my company which leads to more shareholders buying into - I am interested in posts that discuss the company - not DD on the industry - the web has enough of that - and search has grown over the last 2 years - so you can meta or google it - if you are still doing dd
keep the viewpoints coming on the company - nothing more
now that is exciting - the store of the future - but it gives me concern that NEOM is being passed buy - we know walmart if they keep the physical world in their local store - does not need NEOM, IBM in that movie has an array of products for the local store - which like walmart does not need neom?
in all links in that movie - there is a dispaly on a web page - like the pc at home - If that movie represents the store of the future - then where are we left? - as I said - good movie - hopefully NEOM announces partnerships with IBM - to tie this together -
hurley?
Are you still planning on sucking valuable resources from the company with a shareholder lawsuit - or is that put to bed? - You remain a moderator - and this was your full intent prior /during/ after the R/S - what up with that?
cjzak - nothing wrong with Steve Jobs - but remember INSP is also zero in the go window - and they have NO other relationship with NEOM - I have been invested in INSP for 7 years - Neom only two - unless you see it in print somewhere do not assume Disney is in a relationship with us at NEOM.
"Hope NEOM is right in the middle of it all" - if your investment style is based on hope - then the stock market is not the place for you - the article you state - NO neom is not in the middle of that - NO revenue from that - that is the bottom line for that story - the company is in a QP - and for good reason.
OT: GW - personal attacks are not welcome at IHUB
If NEOM, which is used in Europe at some checkouts - as shown by demo examples can get their Pclick into this
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/torino2006/news?slug=ap-olympicdailyestschedule&prov=ap&typ...
It would/could be a great boost to our advertising - since this event will be watched world-wide - having bar codes on advertisements locally could boost exposure to companies around the world.
smoke20: ringtones
INSP - a enter of a 0 in the "go window" has made millions on ringtones - and may have most of the market cornered with the major carriers - tho the article is interesting - I do not see how NEOM gets revenue from what you posted. Maybe you can tell me how our revenue model increases and therefor how we'll see more profit in the long term? Frankly I do not see it.
rk888 - no I do not have these shares either.
May West - is this a pump? I have an post from you last year - quoting over $1.00 in your prediction - we got no where near that quote - in 2005?
smoke20 - good article - but because walmart is only using in their stores - they do not voilate any neom rights - they can develop RFID local to their stores and not have anything to do with NEOM - no revenue to us on this one -
jer
InfoSpace Oddity - Motley Fool Article
Thursday January 26, 8:49 am ET
By Rick Aristotle Munarriz
When will InfoSpace (Nasdaq: INSP - News) find the respect it deserves? It continues to thrive in online search, yet it trades at a steep discount to market leaders and InfoSpace partners Yahoo! (Nasdaq: YHOO - News) and Google (Nasdaq: GOOG - News). Although it's flourishing in the mobile market -- ringtone sales have more than doubled those of the digital songs sold by folks like Apple Computer (Nasdaq: AAPL - News) -- it still trades at a relative pittance to the players there.
Last night, InfoSpace closed out 2005 in fine fashion. Earnings before one-time favorable charges rose from $1.40 to $1.60 per share, while revenues came in 36% higher to hit $340 million.
Even after buying back $70 million worth of its stock, the company's cash balance remains strong, clocking in at $11.16 a share. Back that out to arrive at an enterprise value of less than $450 million. A leading and consistently profitable technology company at just 2.2 times 2005 sales? Let's put this into perspective. Last month, Motley Fool Stock Advisor pick Electronic Arts (Nasdaq: ERTS - News) agreed to buy online gaming upstart Jamdat Mobile (Nasdaq: JMDT - News) at more than 10 times trailing revenue.
Adding a little more color to that particular acquisition, EA's buyout price of $680 million would be more than enough to swallow InfoSpace whole, yet InfoSpace's mobile revenues are nearly twice Jamdat's.
Heaving a paint can at the same easel, mobile revenues make up less than half of InfoSpace's revenue mix, and the margins there are substantially lower than in InfoSpace's flagship search business.
Yes, the company's outlook for the current quarter isn't all that hot. It's looking for earnings to come in between $0.03 to $0.06 a share on revenue growth that will be flat sequentially. That is well off what Wall Street was expecting, and it kicks off a fiscal year in which analysts already expect a decline in profitability. It's going to be a challenging year, and to make matters worse, the CFO announced that he was moving on yesterday.
Welcome the calamity. It will give value-minded investors a good chance to buy into a two-headed company that's being valued at less than the sum of its parts. Ringtone peddling may not be as sexy as mobile gaming, but it's clearly a booming business. True, InfoSpace turns to Google and Yahoo! to fill the ad space on its popular Web properties like Dogpile, WebCrawler, and Metacrawler, but that's not necessarily a bad thing, given the supply of targeted ads by the two paid search giants (and their generous payout ratios).
So let it rain on InfoSpace, for now. Just be ready to catch it on the cheap once the sun comes out again.
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Link:
http://biz.yahoo.com/fool/060126/113828339502.html?.v=1
InfoSpace posts higher qtrly profit aided by gain (1/25/2006)
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stock up .64 today and up 1.89 AH
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Wed Jan 25, 2006 04:18 PM ET
SAN FRANCISCO, Jan 25 (Reuters) - InfoSpace Inc. (INSP.O: Quote, Profile, Research) , a supplier of Web search for computers and mobile phones, on Wednesday reported a higher quarterly net profit, thanks to a tax-related gain.
Net income for the fourth quarter rose to $37.9 million, or $1.13 per diluted share, from $18.9 million, or 50 cents per diluted share, in the year-ago period.
Revenue rose 8.5 percent to $86.5 million.
Excluding the tax benefit of $25 million, or 74 cents per share, the latest quarterly net profit was $12.9 million or 39 cents per diluted shares, the company said in a statement
http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuoteCompanyNewsArticle.jhtml?duid=mtfh35432_2006-01-25_21-18-58_wen....
OC and or Jersey - to me your just text - a post on a message board soon to be forgotten - Either one of you - and it is an even like/dislike - so post substance on the firm - or don't - each post I take with a grain of salt.
nanopatent - lets hope so - put a few seeds in my sons' trust - his horizon is 2030 or so - until he needs it.
lol
Jer
i'll start - chuck knows me well - so email me your address at clarenan@msn.com - if you want to start an email group also - we have the same in two other stocks we share...
just got my bonus today and taxes took 40% lol
excellent poem !! lol eom
elliot - any idea what company was longer - do you have any examples? A company I held shares in ENGA was in a self imposed quite period and the result was management not wanting the share holder base to understand the business - Do you have any examples of other companies that have these self imposed QP that went this long?
OT- yes, I agree with what you say.
On another note - Does anybody know the greated quiet period used by a company in the histroy of the stock market? This must be boarding on the max now - historical at best.
PVC - if you can get others to agree - then that would be a good start - with all the search that is available to us now - having it duplicated here with no statement from the author as to how they "think" it impacts neom - is just wasted space.
But your codes are an excellent start -