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I would like to see this...
Mill already in progress
Mill ready Late September
Dilution stops under 900,000,000
Antimony >60% Mid 2015
PPS .20+
1 for 10 reverse split to 90,000,000
Move out of OTC
here comes 5
nope my ticker got stuck. jump another .20
did they halt trading
I was just thinking the same thing.
Have we cracked the 2,000,000 ask?
One month to go for the terms of the PLUG-Hyundai Asia deal to be finalized...
Look at that BS chart from today. No one was selling at .005 with volume of 1,000,000 all day. 4,000,000 volume in the last two hours and it doesn't hold above .006.
Where did the sellers come from for .005 after .006 with increased volume?
Reeks of MM games
Put that mill in place and let's get 200MT/day Antimony >30% on the market.
Are the MMs filling orders or are they sitting on this and playing games?
Knight and Maxim need to get out of the way of this train
Cmon someone pickup another 2 million by EOD get this to 7
Those number could be low or high, but the potential for a 50-150 bagger in 18 months is pretty damn good.
We need the mill in place!
This is way oversold. I used to think this could get to .25, but with the current business plan I now think it should be:
.01 without the mill
.08 with the mill
.10 4Q2014
.45 4Q2015
200MT/day ... Late 2014 ... Late 2014 is getting closer.
Very low volume today? I will be adding to the volume shortly.
As long as it is below .005, I am accumulating.
I think it should be .008 minimum.
potential 50% before the mill
1000% initally with the mill
and up from there
Did SCOTUS really do anything new (surely nothing they could patent)? Abstract ideas are already not patentable. SCOTUS decided Alice corps patent was abstract.
Abstract ideas, such mathematical formulas, are not patentable. They are neither a process, machine, manufacture, nor composition of matter. They lack utility, since they have no particular use, much like a composition of matter whose uses are unknown.
The application of an abstract idea toward the solution of a problem results in something that is no longer an abstract idea. It could be a product (machine, manufacture, or composition of matter) based on the abstract idea or a process that employs the abstract idea to achieve a desired result, such as transforming a composition of matter to another form. Such applications of abstract ideas can be patentable if they are novel and nonobvious.
The patent class is "707 - Data processing: database and file management or data structures" Would anyone implement a database in anyway other than an information system and with software?
I saw the SCOTUS decision called asinine in the one article. Now, I am starting to see aspects of why it would be called that.
In regards to the SCOTUS decision, how can I tell if a software patent is a software patent? There isn't a specific category of software patent, right? I believe software patents generally fall under utility patents.
I patent a methodology or process. I implement it in software. To me (but who knows anymore), that is not a software patent.
There are lots of players that don't want this to stay over 5.
What's up? Low Volume Yo Yo? MM tripping stop losses?
PLUG put out some PR and bust these market games.
Glitch
We definitely need a pop to reduce the amount of dilution.
IMO
Current PPS should be above 0.008
Acquisition of a mill should move PPS above 0.04
An operating mill should move PPS above 0.08
Google why don't you settle with VRNG and get past this blemish in your history.
Then, you can focus on your core business which is search or is it advertising or is it operating systems, phones, glasses, driverless cars, space elevators, robots, climate change, political action committees, off-shore tax sheltering.
I used to love you, but I am glad I divested you, GOOG.
What is the anti-trust issue all about?
VRNG is trying to license patents to ZTE. That does not sound like AT to me.
Is the problem that VRNG has not gone after other manufacturers with these patents?
I think VRNG intends to do that as soon as they are successful in licensing them to ZTE. Then, they can say to whoever's next, Samsung?, here is how much ZTE is paying.
The main reason I feel for the price to be down this low is the dilution-volume ratio. There is not enough volume at this time to release this many shares. The ask drops because most of the demand is being filled with new shares.
(of course without the mill, what other options do they have)
I think we could get back to .01 if they would stop diluting for a three or four weeks.
Desperation?
Sounds like a short who's party is over and is scared the PPS will punch thru 5.00 where more institutional buyers can come in.
I tihnk we are one order announcement from 5.00 PPS
Kroger? Sam's? FedEx? Who will it be...
Instead complaining about dilution every day. How about assuming they will dilute to the full 1 billion shares to keep things moving forward. They don't have revenues to do it any other way YET.
Lots of negativity here and that is understandable.
If I can offer something positive, relatively speaking, a mill is pretty easy to acquire and put in place if you have the money and time. Of course, we don't have a whole lot of either of those.
Do what you will.
Shorting PLUG good luck. There is a positive pipeline ahead. Lots of new customers. Lots of potential customers. Hyundai terms will be released it July.
Hypergrowth!
Hopfully, not long from now, a basis under .02 will be looking strong
I like my new basis
.00735
If they can operationally match the plan, looks like the PPS would be
.25 mid 2015
exceeding 1.00 in 2016
level II shows 54,000 @ 4.42
How will we punch thru that?
Probably MM playing games
Only 13 million / quarter. Achievable ... maybe 1Q15
Personally, I am looking for 25 million / quarter and I hope Asian market gets it there 4Q15
Saturday I saw an oversized truck moving part of a mill. I took it as a good omen like being followed by an albatross (not killing one). Didn't matter to me that it was 1500 miles from Nevada.
This shouldn't have gone below .008, but I am glad it did.
It should be .012-.016. Time to return there.
Theory is that Google (thru intermediaries) is attacking the PPS.
If they are, can Google really do much more?
The shares have to be available to be shorted. Institutional investors will definitely loan their shares to be shorted. Some retail investors loan their shares to be be shorted and many more don't know that their broker loans their shares. Not counting naked shorting which I doubt Google would go there, that's all that Google has available to short.
This is probably the short number that we see 20-25%
What else can Google do?
More institutions could buy and increase the shorts available
Or Google could buy VRNG shares and then short them to themselves
Did I miss any other avenues they have to attack the PPS?
Looks like a 50/50 success/bankrupt proposition with the potential to 20x - 50x. Great EV if you can handle the possibility of going to zero. I can see many here have run out of patience and this is part of the reason it hit 0.0055. Someone is selling. PPS is reflecting shareholder behavior as much as it is reflecting BOD behavior.
Use that secret ADT/TYCO money to do it
If it can keep some of the shorting esp. naked in check then why not a one time .01 dividend? That's only $900K
Even a quarterly dividend of .01 is less than $4M a year.
That is way less than some of the executive salaries we have heard about recently.