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Anax, truly amazing work.
Thank you
watts, it is nice to see you slipping away from age and experience, to dreaming like a younger man.
I am hoping we all forget how stupid we think the Apple deal was and come to realize that Apple has advance this technology further than Liquidmetal would have ever been able to on their own.
Just for the record, if I had $400 Million I would pay that for the patents. I truly believe this technology can radically change manufacturing.
Just because it hasn't happened yet does not mean it will not.
But when $1.00 a share does happen how will you cover your short position? I don't think you can scare off the longs now.
2011 results were reported 3/30/2012, at 90 days.
But would you conclude that today all the pieces are in place to make commercialization possible. Where they were not in the past. Moving this from pure speculation to just waiting on the contracts that will happen.
Thanks Gorgol, I was about to ask the same question.
Watts do you really think it is 10 more years before this stock really gets going or is your 10 year estimate for when Liquidmetal will be a mature company paying dividends?
Either way I am ok with that, 10 years will put me at an early retirement and paying college tuitions.
If it is 10 more years before the stock really gets going though, I am sure those who have already waited 10 years will really be getting feisty.
Since Tony told you when the call wasn't he must have told you when it was, right? I am really starting to love penny stocks, they are so easy to figure out. Is lqmt 60 or 90 day reporting? I am thinking 90 since the EOY price was .1655, I guess we could be waiting for another month.
"However, in an attempt to make information available to the public in a more timely manner, the SEC adopted rules on August 27, 2002, that saw these 45- and 90-day requirements reduced to 35 and 60 days, respectively. The tightening of filing requirements, however, affects only public companies that have a public float of at least $75 million and have been subject to the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 for at least 12 months. The change in time periods was phased in over three years, starting November 15, 2002. For the first year, companies were allowed the 45- and 90-day requirements, then 40- and 75-day requirements the second year, and then 35- and 60-day requirements for the years thereafter. ". http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/04/050604.asp
"Don't believe everything posted here."
Is this statement true or is this false. I cannot decide.
Nice, short sales still have to cover.
Not going to spook me, I don't want to be Ronald Wayne.
From the 11/8/2013 10 Q
"Visser's use of such sublicense is limited to the exercise of its manufacturing rights"
The 4 LiquidMetal BMGs that Materion list for sale have Zirconium, this one does not. Not sure who owns this one...
Pt58 Cu15 Ni5 P22
Here is a Anax post on the subject, http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=88990503
Edit: Per the link provided
"Pt58Cu15Ni5P22 is patented by CIP "
CIP = Crucible Intellectual Property LLC, you have your answer, it is LiquidMetal.
Last year the call was Tuesday Feb 26. I assumed perhaps incorrectly that this years call would follow suite. Strange that it is not posted yet.
Just in case you had no clue what Finite Element Analysis was, I had to Google it.
"What is Finite Element Analysis?
FEA consists of a computer model of a material or design that is stressed and analyzed for specific results. It is used in new product design, and existing product refinement. A company is able to verify a proposed design will be able to perform to the client's specifications prior to manufacturing or construction. Modifying an existing product or structure is utilized to qualify the product or structure for a new service condition. In case of structural failure, FEA may be used to help determine the design modifications to meet the new condition."
http://www.sv.vt.edu/classes/MSE2094_NoteBook/97ClassProj/num/widas/history.html
So many questions and so few answers, are you going to try and ask these on the conference call, Tuesday?
I guess this is why Mr. Merkel got a response and some of the other similar questions were left unanswered.
"Merkel, who lives in Diamond Bar, Calif., near Los Angeles, is a major investor in Liquidmetal Technologies. A former executive from the steel and plastics industries, Merkel is perhaps the most knowledgeable expert on the company. Merkel invested about $1 million in Liquidmetal — his entire net worth — and watched in horror as the stock price plunged and his investment dwindled to about $55,000. He was so concerned about the company, he drove to its headquarters every month for years, just to check the lights were still on."
http://www.cultofmac.com/55322/worlds-most-advanced-machinery-was-reason-for-apples-liquidmetal-deal-expert-says/
I am replying to myself now.
Wouldn't the new design started on the Feb. 18th be right after LM105 was announced? Why yes it would be.
So how do you all read this "news".
Something makes me think that Glenton Jelbert is going to be getting the "talk" about what is posted to the blog...
I don't think the "The Engel-Liquidmetal injection molding machine is currently available to licensees." quote is that significant. After all he could be referencing access to one of the existing machines. The quote does not give us any more detail than what we already knew.
On the other hand "and a third design was kicked off on Feb 18th" quote seems much more significant, though perhaps unquantifiable.
Correct me if I am wrong.
From 12/5/2013 S1 filing to 2/11 Effect date lqmt would have been in a quite period.
Additionally, we have an EoQ/EoY quite period which is the 4 weeks prior to the 2/25 call.
Therefore the darkness
In the book Lincoln on Leadership the author writes about a technique Lincoln would use. When he was upset about something or someone he would write a letter place it in an envelope and never send it. Once the heat of the moment had passed the issues were no longer a big deal. This technique, no skill, is often lost on us in the internet generation.
Hopefully, we will all be celebrating with some more good news soon.
I am right there with you, wish I had more.
But when you have little to lose and everything to gain it makes it easy to sit long.
If I was up 500%-600%, on a $100,000 investment, I would be collecting some at .30 as well.
I reread the article and I misread what the author was saying. Oops, please ignore the first half of that post as it was pre coffee exuberance.
"Talk of a potential second Apple (AAPL) deal (original 2010 agreement expires this month)"
A second deal??? I thought Apple already owned all the IP for CE use forever. At least that is how I read the agreement. What could the second deal be, not an extension, but a second deal. Mr Bond must have meant to say extension of the existing agreement.
I know there has been some talk about Liquidmetal being used to produce kinetic energy rounds, all I can find online is reference to early development. I found this interesting video of the General Atomics Railgun test from 2013. Can you imagine the contract if Liquidmetal prototypes worked out.
I expect it will be from something not getting a lot of attention. Like a ammunitions contract, for the rail gun. The profile fits, tight tolerances, need for repeatability, and reduced cost. Did the prototypes work?
Not saying that gets us to $5 but perhaps starts us that way.
Holding for $52, I want to be a millionaire, I know it's a long shot, not sure I could hold beyond $5 anyways.
I am personally working on the assumption lqmt does not see any additional money from Apple. Money will be coming from the non-ce markets. What the Apple deal did in addition to saving lqmt was speed up development, perhaps taking it where lqmt would never have gotten it alone.
Looking forward to tomorrow to see how the market responds to the latest news.
Long term plan, I am holding out for 52, that is only 20 billion market cap, right.
So here is the big question and pure speculation?
What is LiquidMetal worth.
Current, market capitalization is ~107 Million.
By all accounts the company is poorly managed, has that changed?
There are no major contracts, will this new alloy change this fact?
I discovered LiquidMetal while researching solar energy a few months ago. I was reading up on the new potential grid level liquid metal batteries being developed and while looking into that discovered this company/product. I was sold as to its ability to be a game changer (pure speculation). I was willing to invest what I had to lose on this company, and I am the proud owner of 22K shares. I have never invested in a non-established start up business before and have no idea what to expect.
I see Yahoo's 1 year estimate is $2.36, market cap ~880K, anyone here think that is close to a legitimate? I read a post a while ago where someone stated that Tom Steipp believes this could be a 2 billion dollar business, does anyone recall where that came from? I would love to see my (and your) shares be worth $4.22 factoring in dilution.
I would love to here your guesses as to the value here.
Thanks
I am sure all of us who bought it while it was cheap wish we had bought more. I bought what little I could afford to lose. I will see where it is when my year is up.