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Free, I'm well aware of the Sterling issues with CMKX. I guess I did not make myself clear. My post about Sterling was to compliment him on HOW he thinks! Not the subject matter of CMKX. I know anyone aligning themselves with him here will get blasted. I do wish and hope my children will have a positive out look on life. I hope they dream in Sterlingvision. He is a good role model in that sense. Has you listen to him talk he is very positive , upbeat and has a good outlook on how he views things. And I'm not talking about his CMKX position.
Yes we have a big O/S and we all know the resticted shares routine! I just looked at my ELTK shares today. .35 was it (?)when we received them and .09 today. Live and learn, I should have sold them like most did when the restiction was lifted! :) By the way did you see the FREE SHARE list today?
Oh well hoping for a breakout on good news!
Need any coconuts? :)
BBP!
Thanks Kim.........we were quite safe in ORLANDO. Just an absolute mess when we got home!
Coconuts every where!
BBP!
Now, now Gumppy..........Am I senseing a touch of JELOUSY? :)
Very logical Captain Kirk! LOL!
Lots of people are on board for the ride for sure. Its being billed as the stock play of a life time remember? :)
What is laughable here is the bashers are bashing the rumors.
They really don't have any ammo, but on the other hand we don't have much more than pie in the sky.
Well just have to wait till those divvies hit our accounts. I'm hoping it pans out something like Sterling is calling for!
Coconuts anyone?
BBP!
Hey Grump..........he is calling the short play for CMKX. Isn't that why you said you were here?
MMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Need any Coconuts? :)
BBP!
Yes many think he is a cult hero and pumper. I just like his positive thinking. You need to hear him talk to appreciate him. I'm not falling for any hipe. I've been trading to long to fall for that. I enjoy the contacts and friends I have met through trading/investing.
Do you need any Coconuts? :)
Bash this! .......Sterling was on PALTALK for 3 hours last night discussing his thoughts and many questions were answered by him. I found him to be incredibly bright and extremely positive in his thinking. Not a pumper, just the type person you would want your children emulate. This man is a remarkable person. In the Air Force and a squadron leader.
The guy could actually wright a book on positive thinking and is tremendous leader. I have a goal to meet him and discuss who had the biggest impact on him in his life. He is just a shareholder like you and I. But as a CMKX bonus it would be a treat to pick his brain. I am posting his text. Thanks for bring his post to our attention.
PS......Do you need any COCONUTS? :) LOL!
By: stervc
06 Aug 2004, 06:52 PM EDT
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CMKX-Operation Dividends...
Operation Dividends is the major air campaign of the Casavant Maneuver that is going to be launched to combat and take out the naked shorting that have been going on with CMKX by the Market Makers and/or their affiliates. This is how we will win the battles and ultimately the war! Below are some thoughts that are only my opinions.
This is a major Operation that Urban Casavant and Team CMKX will be launching to award shareholders tactical and strategic gains of huge magnitude in my opinion. This will be done through giving shareholders cash and shares in newly subsidiary companies with the goals of each subsidiary to be trading in any of the major markets to eliminate the opportunity of having fictitious shares created for accountability.
On the date of execution of each subsidiary, the subsidiary will then trade as a conceived dividend in our brokerage accounts leaving value behind in CMKX as shares are transferred into our accounts. The goal is for us never to sell any CMKX shares and to live off of our dividends as they will have tremendous value in cash and shares which will all trade on major markets with the approved stamped seal of Urban and Roger Glenn.
This will enhance value in CMKX and will not allow their valuation to be subject to degradation of the large CMKX outstanding share (OS) structure in my opinion which is a must and a plus to provide the essential liquidity for more shareholders to enjoy in the fruitages of CMKX prosperity. Before we continue on further, let’s understand why Urban chose to have a large OS. And what I mean by large, is that it’s a lot larger than what many of us had originally expected.
Having a large OS allows Urban to be able to help people through executing Operation Dividends. If there was a small OS, such as 1 million shares, there would not be many or enough shares available for many to buy. Therefore, only a few could buy shares in CMKX to be awarded the value to be placed in the dividends to be awarded to the CMKX shareholders. A select few could buy up CMKX and keep many from becoming prosperous through Urban’s gifts through the dividends. How could Urban help many people if he did not make available shares to be bought for us all to retrieve the dividends of value?
Urban can take all of the value that would be in CMKX and divide each precious metal, minerals, and other tangible assets into stock spinouts to trade as their separate entity to award to us shareholders and further enhance dissemination.
The best way to view this is to consider the company mentioned to trade as a subsidiary under CMKX while enhancing value especially as their price increases up until the time of the execution date. Upon the execution date, the value would have graduated CMKX to the next level of valuation while the subsidiary breaks off to trade for us separately as our dividend under its own merit and valuation only.
If the shares of the subsidiary remain restricted, then it should be considered a delayed cash dividend at the time of when you sell. If the shares are not restricted, then the shares could be considered an immediate cash dividend through a stock dividend at the time of when you sell. All of these dividends will be stocks of value trading on major exchanges because I believe that such is one of the main purposes for hiring Roger Glenn.
I’m thinking that Urban will be selling land to companies that would have use for key resources already identified on certain portions of our CMKX land. From looking at the past PRs, it looks like 49% is the magic number. From reading the Jan 03 PR about stock and cash dividends, one would have to guess that Urban could be giving us 49% of any transaction completed for cash back to the shareholders and 49% of the stock being dealt with. This is a double hammer of gains to us shareholders and the companies involved.
The shareholders would be so happy from such receipt of any type of cash dividend if such were to happened as mention from the PR dated back in Jan 03, that it would turn into a rush to see who could buy more CMKX shares the fastest to include UCAD and GEMM for being key affiliates. This would be a brilliant move because I would have to guess that investor confidence would grow and see the importance of why Urban wants us to hold our shares of CMKX. This would be Urban’s way of letting action speak louder than words.
I believe this action is how Urban is planning on rewarding only us CMKX shareholders many dividends in significant companies/stocks of value by using the “Legit Float” as the key variable to determine the distribution ratio instead of using the OS as done as the norm. This means that the OS is not important for actual valuation anymore for us CMKX shareholders. This is why knowing or not knowing the OS does not matter because it won’t be used for determining the distribution of dividends. This will revolutionize the entire investing community completely if this transact as I suspect!
Urban is using the “Legit Float” as the key variable and numerator for determination of the distribution ratio which I believe to be less than 40 billion in my opinion. The 40 billion shares is the cap of maximization in my opinion for the “Legit Float.” This is what I assumed from interpreting the CIM dividend PR.
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5Cbw%5C2004%5C07%5C20....
The thought for using the 40 billion was because Urban wanted to make sure all of the current shareholders receive shares in CIM that bought after the old cutoff date of Sep 03 to keep a united front of happiness amongst all the present CMKX shareholders that have been major contributors and supporters of the company. With the announcement of the 40 billion in the CIM PR, I am guessing that such was the number to make sure he captures all the current shareholders as a minimum number for the “Legit Float” for the cap.
This means that the “Legit Float” will be the key variable to use for determining the distribution ratio to shareholders and not the OS as usual. The OS will be used for filing purposes to assess official value with the SEC for determining fundamental valuation. It doesn’t have to be used as the variable of distribution to disseminate shareholder dividends. The CEO can officially give out his dividends to whoever he wants. If it’s just shareholders of the “Legit Float” then so be it as long as it is explained to the insiders to not be expecting any dividends for their restricted shares which make up part of the OS.
This is in congruence with Urban’s plan to reward those who are in need. Urban considers us the shareholders as being in more need than those who own restricted shares. Urban is our modern day Robin Hood because he will legally take from the rich (or not give to the rich) to give to the poor (or those who are more in line of the needy). This is the love the Urban makes manifest for his CMKX shareholders.
The normal OS is made up of the Restricted Shares + the Float. Here with CMKX, the OS is made up of the Restricted Shares + the Illegitimate Float + Legitimate Float. This is how new shareholders that buy up until the date of execution are included into the distribution ratio even though their recent shares bought are naked shorted shares.
I think we should consider the thoughts of the normal OS for CMKX to be 195 billion to 300 billion in my opinion. From the UCAD dividend PR, Nevada minerals was officially given 75 billion shares of CMKX. This is an official announcement of actual restricted shares that are officially part of the OS.
I am guessing that those 75 billion shares represent 49% of CMKX outstanding shares (OS) so that Urban and the company insiders maintained a 51% controlling interest in CMKX.
Now we must ask ourselves…
75 billion is 49% of what number?
To solve:
75,000,000,000/X = 49/100
49X = 7,500,000,000,000
X = 153, 061,224,489
This means that the OS could conceivably be 153,061,224,489 shares. The 40 billion mentioned in the CIM dividend PR could be included within the OS number just calculated. If not, then this would give us an OS of about 195 billion as I had mentioned earlier.
All of these shares bought by shareholders up until the date of execution and in past are captured in the 40 billion number in my opinion as the cap for the “Legit Float” as the 40 billion mentioned in the CIM dividend PR. This means the 7.5 million of UCAD should be divided by 40 billion to get the distribution ratio. Observe...
7,500,000 ÷ 40,000,000,000 = Per Share Multiple
.0001875 = Per Share Multiple
This means that this is the multiple to use for determining the amount of UCAD you will receive per 1 CMKX share bought. Example...
1,000,000 CMKX shares x .0001875 = 187.5 shares of UCAD
This means that for every 1Mil shares you buy of CMKX, you will be given .0001875 shares of UCAD.
So, if you own 25Mil of CMKX, then...
25,000,000 x .0001875 = 4,687.5 shares of UCAD
Assume now UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share:
UCAD = $15.00 x 4,687.5
UCAD = $70,312.50
This means that for buying 25Mil shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s) at the cost of $10,000, you will be getting back $70,312.50 in UCAD value from the above example. Keep in mind that this will only be 1 stock dividend of many as this still does not include any inclusion of any cash dividends. Hmmmmm…
For you heavy hitters, consider if you bought 250,000,000 shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s).
So, if you own 250Mil, then...
250,000,000 x .0001875 = 46,875 shares of UCAD
Assume UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share:
UCAD = $15.00 x 46,875
UCAD = $703,125
The above is how to consider the calculation for determining the distribution multiple to determine the portion of UCAD shares given for owning 1 CMKX share. The same results would be warranted if done in reverse to derive to such resolution through the use of the ratio logic.
Now if the OS is actually the 153,061,224,489 as derived from above, then consider such below:
7,500,000 ÷ 153,061,224,489 = Per Share Multiple
.000049 = Per Share Multiple
This means that this is the multiple to use for determining the amount of UCAD you will receive per 1 CMKX share bought. Example...
1,000,000 CMKX shares x .000049 = 49 shares of UCAD
This means that for every 1Mil shares you buy of CMKX, you will be given .000049 shares of UCAD.
So, if you own 25Mil of CMKX, then...
25,000,000 x .000049 = 1,225 shares of UCAD
Assume now UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share:
UCAD = $15.00 x 1,225
UCAD = $18,375
This means that for buying 25Mil shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s) at the cost of $10,000, you will be getting back $18,375 in UCAD value from the above example. Keep in mind that this will only be 1 stock dividend of many as this still does not include any inclusion of any cash dividends. Hmmmmm…
For you heavy hitters, consider if you bought 250,000,000 shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s).
So, if you own 250Mil, then...
250,000,000 x .000049 = 12,250 shares of UCAD
Assume UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share:
UCAD = $15.00 x 12,250
UCAD = $183,750
Now, if for some reason neither of the above paths are not the paths taken, then we should consider only as a worse case scenario the information that is publicly known through the link below which indicates that the distribution multiple equates to 1 share of CMKX being equaled to +.0000155 shares of UCAD.
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=CMKX&dDate=08/20/2004&sDateType=Record_date
Because of the plus sign in front of the multiple, I think that we should consider such as what was temporarily submitted as the worse case scenario. This means that the multiple could be later reported to be higher on the plus side for calculation which would result in a mathematical effect of deriving a lower OS for CMKX. As it stands from the link, the OS is derived as shown below:
7,500,000 ÷ .0000155 = OS
483,870,967,741 = OS
First, before I go any further, I am not saying that I believe this to be so. I am just showing how if this is so, we still would be fine from the implementation of Operation Dividends.
This means the 7.5Mil of UCAD should be divided by 483,870,967,741 to get the worse case distribution ratio of .0000155. Observe...
7,500,000 ÷ 483,870,967,741 = Per Share Multiple
.0000155 = Per Share Multiple
This means that this is the multiple to use for determining the amount of UCAD you will receive per CMKX shares bought. Example...
1,000,000 CMKX shares x .0000155 = 15.5 shares of UCAD
This means that for every 1Mil shares you buy of CMKX, you will be given 15.5 shares of UCAD. So, if you own 25Mil, then...
25,000,000 x .0000155 = 387.5 shares of UCAD
Assume UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share
UCAD = $15.00 x 387.5
UCAD = $5,812.50
So let’s consider where we are as a worse case scenario. This means that for buying 25Mil shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s) at the cost of $10,000, you will be getting back $5,812.50 in UCAD value from the above example. Keep in mind that this will only be 1 stock dividend of many as this still does not include any possibilities of any cash dividends as I mentioned above too.
Again, for you heavy hitters, consider if you bought 250,000,000 shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s) at $100,000.
So, if you own 250 million, then...
250,000,000 x .0000155 = 3,875 shares of UCAD
Assume UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share:
UCAD = $15.00 x 3,875
UCAD = $58,125
So if the +.0000155 is not the correct multiple to use for the UCAD distribution of shares, then according to the SEC Rule 10b-17, paragraph b, section 1, CMKX will have to have submitted the correct info within 10 calendar days of the date of execution from the link below. This interpretation is yet still debatable.
http://www.otcbb.com/aboutOTCBB/secrules.stm
None of the above calculations are bad. Some are just better than others. All of them presented the delivery of a dividend I UCAD to give us much of what we now do not have. These options are all worthy for increased hope in my opinion for a dividend to CMKX shareholders.
Urban will continue to award us shareholders numerous dividends in the amount of 15+ to enhance the value of CMKX culminating with the goal achievement of being on the NYSE in my opinion. So in my opinion, multiply any of the above examples by 15 to really understand the magnitude of Operation Dividends.
As I had mentioned before, there were mentions of a cash dividend in an older PR dated back in Jan 03. To consider the power of a cash dividend, one must understand the power of how one would bring instant valuation to the worth of CMKX. Let’s take for an example what should be considered if we were to receive a cash dividend of .10 cents.
Understand first that I am by no means insinuating that we are receiving a cash dividend anytime soon in the amount of .10 cents. I am only using this number to facilitate the example that I am about to explain. I am still speculating.
To continue, take for an example if we were to receive a .10 cents cash dividend to capture the immediate valuation of CMKX. You must first consider that upon such an announcement, this would mean that CMKX could be bought up to .10 cents and much much higher to warrant gains.
The thought would be that if you bought CMKX at .10 cents, you would get .10 cents back in return from the dividend. This would give you a 100% return on your money from buying CMKX at .10 cents.
Now consider that if you bought CMKX at .20 cents, you would now get 50% return on your money by getting the dividend of .10 cents.
Now consider that if you bought CMKX at .50 cents, you would now get 20% return on your money by getting the dividend of .10 cents.
Now consider that if you bought CMKX at $1.00 per share, you would now get 10% return on your money by getting the dividend of .10 cents.
Now consider that if you bought CMKX at $2.00 per share, you would now get 05% return on your money by getting the dividend of .10 cents.
So, buying CMKX at $2.00 per share would still give you a better return than what you would get by placing your money in a regular savings account.
The rate of inflation is 3% per year. Buying at $2.00 would also give you a rate higher than the rate of inflation.
All of the stock and cash dividend scenarios are all from a speculative point of view for consideration to give you a format to use once factual information is released by the company to determine the fundamental value in CMKX. These are ways in which I believe Urban will be building value in CMKX as a powerhouse dividend distribution machine through Operation Dividends.
By building CMKX into a powerhouse dividend distribution machine, the market makers (MMs) will have no choice but to cover to keep from burying themselves deeper in this naked short position they created for themselves. They are already embarrassed at how they underestimated the potential of CMKX and they know that they are in trouble, trust me on that one. Urban wants to instill in CMKX enough value to place CMKX in the position to maintain the levels of covering from the MMs once achieved.
Eventually the MMs will have to increase the bid to entice us shareholders to sell at our desires for them to cover. They will soon see that the value that CMKX will be revealing will force them to see that it’s not a matter of ego, but rather a matter of survival for their existence. They will be suspended from trading if they don’t come clean to rectify this problem in my opinion.
Urban does not want us to sell any of our shares though. He wants to take care of us through Operation Dividends. He would like for CMKX and/or the CMKX subsidiary/affiliate of companies to exist for our children and our grandchildren. He believes that he can make us as shareholders see his dreams as it is closing to form a new beginning.
This means that the ultimate goal is for CMKX to go away through what we have been wondering about since our introduction into CMKX, a Tender Offer. Urban wants to put us in a position to where he can send us out proxies to vote on a Tender Offer that we can’t refuse after all of the dividends have been secured in place for us shareholders in my opinion. Accepting any offer now would be like accepting the pie pan before placing the pie crust and pie filling in it before baking it. Why not just finish making and baking the pie so that you can get 10, 20, 30 or more times the value that you would have gotten from originally selling the pan.
I suspect that Tender Offers have been made and the interested parties are graduating to higher levels of interest. The longer we wait as more valuation is placed into CMKX, the higher a price would be justified. The time is nearing for such to consummate as I am sure that such is something you don’t want to wait to long either to transact. I’m guessing that we are about 4 months out before entertaining such thoughts. Again, only a guess.
As for the MMs, they will usually get a huge covering if they allow for a huge price increase because many will be selling to transition their positions to new shareholders with less of a supply to work with because of the increased investor interest that I believe will be taking place in the near future. This will force the MMs to chase the price upwards to not allow the lack of supply to overwhelm them for meeting the significant increase in demand.
As more is revealed, more individuals will be understanding that knowing or not knowing the OS is not as significant as what many have initially thought. I have shown from previous posts how we are a 2+ trillion dollar company through intrinsic valuation. From the examples above, I remained very conservative in my dividend calculations to be considered as worse case scenarios.
When we hit/reveal the mother-load, as I think we will and not in just diamonds either, much will justify prices that will reveal that there still will not be enough shares out there for the needed liquidity. All that you have just read are nothing more than my opinions. Treat all of the above as “theory” until proven to be “fact” by Urban and Team CMKX. Soon is in the eye of the beholder. The time is now!
All is well!
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http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=60142
ATCX........Sterling was on PALTALK for 3 hours last night discussing his thoughts and many questions were answered by him. I found him to be incredibly bright and extremely positive in his thinking. Not a pumper, just the type person you would want your children emulate. This man is a remarkable person. In the Air Force and a squadron leader.
The guy could actually wright a book on positive thinking and is tremendous leader. I have a goal to meet him and discuss who had the biggest impact on him in his life. He is just a shareholder like you and I. But as a CMKX bonus it would be a treat to pick his brain. I am posting his text. Thanks for bring his post to our attention.
PS......Do you need any COCONUTS? :) LOL!
By: stervc
06 Aug 2004, 06:52 PM EDT
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CMKX-Operation Dividends...
Operation Dividends is the major air campaign of the Casavant Maneuver that is going to be launched to combat and take out the naked shorting that have been going on with CMKX by the Market Makers and/or their affiliates. This is how we will win the battles and ultimately the war! Below are some thoughts that are only my opinions.
This is a major Operation that Urban Casavant and Team CMKX will be launching to award shareholders tactical and strategic gains of huge magnitude in my opinion. This will be done through giving shareholders cash and shares in newly subsidiary companies with the goals of each subsidiary to be trading in any of the major markets to eliminate the opportunity of having fictitious shares created for accountability.
On the date of execution of each subsidiary, the subsidiary will then trade as a conceived dividend in our brokerage accounts leaving value behind in CMKX as shares are transferred into our accounts. The goal is for us never to sell any CMKX shares and to live off of our dividends as they will have tremendous value in cash and shares which will all trade on major markets with the approved stamped seal of Urban and Roger Glenn.
This will enhance value in CMKX and will not allow their valuation to be subject to degradation of the large CMKX outstanding share (OS) structure in my opinion which is a must and a plus to provide the essential liquidity for more shareholders to enjoy in the fruitages of CMKX prosperity. Before we continue on further, let’s understand why Urban chose to have a large OS. And what I mean by large, is that it’s a lot larger than what many of us had originally expected.
Having a large OS allows Urban to be able to help people through executing Operation Dividends. If there was a small OS, such as 1 million shares, there would not be many or enough shares available for many to buy. Therefore, only a few could buy shares in CMKX to be awarded the value to be placed in the dividends to be awarded to the CMKX shareholders. A select few could buy up CMKX and keep many from becoming prosperous through Urban’s gifts through the dividends. How could Urban help many people if he did not make available shares to be bought for us all to retrieve the dividends of value?
Urban can take all of the value that would be in CMKX and divide each precious metal, minerals, and other tangible assets into stock spinouts to trade as their separate entity to award to us shareholders and further enhance dissemination.
The best way to view this is to consider the company mentioned to trade as a subsidiary under CMKX while enhancing value especially as their price increases up until the time of the execution date. Upon the execution date, the value would have graduated CMKX to the next level of valuation while the subsidiary breaks off to trade for us separately as our dividend under its own merit and valuation only.
If the shares of the subsidiary remain restricted, then it should be considered a delayed cash dividend at the time of when you sell. If the shares are not restricted, then the shares could be considered an immediate cash dividend through a stock dividend at the time of when you sell. All of these dividends will be stocks of value trading on major exchanges because I believe that such is one of the main purposes for hiring Roger Glenn.
I’m thinking that Urban will be selling land to companies that would have use for key resources already identified on certain portions of our CMKX land. From looking at the past PRs, it looks like 49% is the magic number. From reading the Jan 03 PR about stock and cash dividends, one would have to guess that Urban could be giving us 49% of any transaction completed for cash back to the shareholders and 49% of the stock being dealt with. This is a double hammer of gains to us shareholders and the companies involved.
The shareholders would be so happy from such receipt of any type of cash dividend if such were to happened as mention from the PR dated back in Jan 03, that it would turn into a rush to see who could buy more CMKX shares the fastest to include UCAD and GEMM for being key affiliates. This would be a brilliant move because I would have to guess that investor confidence would grow and see the importance of why Urban wants us to hold our shares of CMKX. This would be Urban’s way of letting action speak louder than words.
I believe this action is how Urban is planning on rewarding only us CMKX shareholders many dividends in significant companies/stocks of value by using the “Legit Float” as the key variable to determine the distribution ratio instead of using the OS as done as the norm. This means that the OS is not important for actual valuation anymore for us CMKX shareholders. This is why knowing or not knowing the OS does not matter because it won’t be used for determining the distribution of dividends. This will revolutionize the entire investing community completely if this transact as I suspect!
Urban is using the “Legit Float” as the key variable and numerator for determination of the distribution ratio which I believe to be less than 40 billion in my opinion. The 40 billion shares is the cap of maximization in my opinion for the “Legit Float.” This is what I assumed from interpreting the CIM dividend PR.
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5Cbw%5C2004%5C07%5C20...
The thought for using the 40 billion was because Urban wanted to make sure all of the current shareholders receive shares in CIM that bought after the old cutoff date of Sep 03 to keep a united front of happiness amongst all the present CMKX shareholders that have been major contributors and supporters of the company. With the announcement of the 40 billion in the CIM PR, I am guessing that such was the number to make sure he captures all the current shareholders as a minimum number for the “Legit Float” for the cap.
This means that the “Legit Float” will be the key variable to use for determining the distribution ratio to shareholders and not the OS as usual. The OS will be used for filing purposes to assess official value with the SEC for determining fundamental valuation. It doesn’t have to be used as the variable of distribution to disseminate shareholder dividends. The CEO can officially give out his dividends to whoever he wants. If it’s just shareholders of the “Legit Float” then so be it as long as it is explained to the insiders to not be expecting any dividends for their restricted shares which make up part of the OS.
This is in congruence with Urban’s plan to reward those who are in need. Urban considers us the shareholders as being in more need than those who own restricted shares. Urban is our modern day Robin Hood because he will legally take from the rich (or not give to the rich) to give to the poor (or those who are more in line of the needy). This is the love the Urban makes manifest for his CMKX shareholders.
The normal OS is made up of the Restricted Shares + the Float. Here with CMKX, the OS is made up of the Restricted Shares + the Illegitimate Float + Legitimate Float. This is how new shareholders that buy up until the date of execution are included into the distribution ratio even though their recent shares bought are naked shorted shares.
I think we should consider the thoughts of the normal OS for CMKX to be 195 billion to 300 billion in my opinion. From the UCAD dividend PR, Nevada minerals was officially given 75 billion shares of CMKX. This is an official announcement of actual restricted shares that are officially part of the OS.
I am guessing that those 75 billion shares represent 49% of CMKX outstanding shares (OS) so that Urban and the company insiders maintained a 51% controlling interest in CMKX.
Now we must ask ourselves…
75 billion is 49% of what number?
To solve:
75,000,000,000/X = 49/100
49X = 7,500,000,000,000
X = 153, 061,224,489
This means that the OS could conceivably be 153,061,224,489 shares. The 40 billion mentioned in the CIM dividend PR could be included within the OS number just calculated. If not, then this would give us an OS of about 195 billion as I had mentioned earlier.
All of these shares bought by shareholders up until the date of execution and in past are captured in the 40 billion number in my opinion as the cap for the “Legit Float” as the 40 billion mentioned in the CIM dividend PR. This means the 7.5 million of UCAD should be divided by 40 billion to get the distribution ratio. Observe...
7,500,000 ÷ 40,000,000,000 = Per Share Multiple
.0001875 = Per Share Multiple
This means that this is the multiple to use for determining the amount of UCAD you will receive per 1 CMKX share bought. Example...
1,000,000 CMKX shares x .0001875 = 187.5 shares of UCAD
This means that for every 1Mil shares you buy of CMKX, you will be given .0001875 shares of UCAD.
So, if you own 25Mil of CMKX, then...
25,000,000 x .0001875 = 4,687.5 shares of UCAD
Assume now UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share:
UCAD = $15.00 x 4,687.5
UCAD = $70,312.50
This means that for buying 25Mil shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s) at the cost of $10,000, you will be getting back $70,312.50 in UCAD value from the above example. Keep in mind that this will only be 1 stock dividend of many as this still does not include any inclusion of any cash dividends. Hmmmmm…
For you heavy hitters, consider if you bought 250,000,000 shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s).
So, if you own 250Mil, then...
250,000,000 x .0001875 = 46,875 shares of UCAD
Assume UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share:
UCAD = $15.00 x 46,875
UCAD = $703,125
The above is how to consider the calculation for determining the distribution multiple to determine the portion of UCAD shares given for owning 1 CMKX share. The same results would be warranted if done in reverse to derive to such resolution through the use of the ratio logic.
Now if the OS is actually the 153,061,224,489 as derived from above, then consider such below:
7,500,000 ÷ 153,061,224,489 = Per Share Multiple
.000049 = Per Share Multiple
This means that this is the multiple to use for determining the amount of UCAD you will receive per 1 CMKX share bought. Example...
1,000,000 CMKX shares x .000049 = 49 shares of UCAD
This means that for every 1Mil shares you buy of CMKX, you will be given .000049 shares of UCAD.
So, if you own 25Mil of CMKX, then...
25,000,000 x .000049 = 1,225 shares of UCAD
Assume now UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share:
UCAD = $15.00 x 1,225
UCAD = $18,375
This means that for buying 25Mil shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s) at the cost of $10,000, you will be getting back $18,375 in UCAD value from the above example. Keep in mind that this will only be 1 stock dividend of many as this still does not include any inclusion of any cash dividends. Hmmmmm…
For you heavy hitters, consider if you bought 250,000,000 shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s).
So, if you own 250Mil, then...
250,000,000 x .000049 = 12,250 shares of UCAD
Assume UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share:
UCAD = $15.00 x 12,250
UCAD = $183,750
Now, if for some reason neither of the above paths are not the paths taken, then we should consider only as a worse case scenario the information that is publicly known through the link below which indicates that the distribution multiple equates to 1 share of CMKX being equaled to +.0000155 shares of UCAD.
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=CMKX&dDate=08/20/2004&sDateType=Record_date
Because of the plus sign in front of the multiple, I think that we should consider such as what was temporarily submitted as the worse case scenario. This means that the multiple could be later reported to be higher on the plus side for calculation which would result in a mathematical effect of deriving a lower OS for CMKX. As it stands from the link, the OS is derived as shown below:
7,500,000 ÷ .0000155 = OS
483,870,967,741 = OS
First, before I go any further, I am not saying that I believe this to be so. I am just showing how if this is so, we still would be fine from the implementation of Operation Dividends.
This means the 7.5Mil of UCAD should be divided by 483,870,967,741 to get the worse case distribution ratio of .0000155. Observe...
7,500,000 ÷ 483,870,967,741 = Per Share Multiple
.0000155 = Per Share Multiple
This means that this is the multiple to use for determining the amount of UCAD you will receive per CMKX shares bought. Example...
1,000,000 CMKX shares x .0000155 = 15.5 shares of UCAD
This means that for every 1Mil shares you buy of CMKX, you will be given 15.5 shares of UCAD. So, if you own 25Mil, then...
25,000,000 x .0000155 = 387.5 shares of UCAD
Assume UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share
UCAD = $15.00 x 387.5
UCAD = $5,812.50
So let’s consider where we are as a worse case scenario. This means that for buying 25Mil shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s) at the cost of $10,000, you will be getting back $5,812.50 in UCAD value from the above example. Keep in mind that this will only be 1 stock dividend of many as this still does not include any possibilities of any cash dividends as I mentioned above too.
Again, for you heavy hitters, consider if you bought 250,000,000 shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s) at $100,000.
So, if you own 250 million, then...
250,000,000 x .0000155 = 3,875 shares of UCAD
Assume UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share:
UCAD = $15.00 x 3,875
UCAD = $58,125
So if the +.0000155 is not the correct multiple to use for the UCAD distribution of shares, then according to the SEC Rule 10b-17, paragraph b, section 1, CMKX will have to have submitted the correct info within 10 calendar days of the date of execution from the link below. This interpretation is yet still debatable.
http://www.otcbb.com/aboutOTCBB/secrules.stm
None of the above calculations are bad. Some are just better than others. All of them presented the delivery of a dividend I UCAD to give us much of what we now do not have. These options are all worthy for increased hope in my opinion for a dividend to CMKX shareholders.
Urban will continue to award us shareholders numerous dividends in the amount of 15+ to enhance the value of CMKX culminating with the goal achievement of being on the NYSE in my opinion. So in my opinion, multiply any of the above examples by 15 to really understand the magnitude of Operation Dividends.
As I had mentioned before, there were mentions of a cash dividend in an older PR dated back in Jan 03. To consider the power of a cash dividend, one must understand the power of how one would bring instant valuation to the worth of CMKX. Let’s take for an example what should be considered if we were to receive a cash dividend of .10 cents.
Understand first that I am by no means insinuating that we are receiving a cash dividend anytime soon in the amount of .10 cents. I am only using this number to facilitate the example that I am about to explain. I am still speculating.
To continue, take for an example if we were to receive a .10 cents cash dividend to capture the immediate valuation of CMKX. You must first consider that upon such an announcement, this would mean that CMKX could be bought up to .10 cents and much much higher to warrant gains.
The thought would be that if you bought CMKX at .10 cents, you would get .10 cents back in return from the dividend. This would give you a 100% return on your money from buying CMKX at .10 cents.
Now consider that if you bought CMKX at .20 cents, you would now get 50% return on your money by getting the dividend of .10 cents.
Now consider that if you bought CMKX at .50 cents, you would now get 20% return on your money by getting the dividend of .10 cents.
Now consider that if you bought CMKX at $1.00 per share, you would now get 10% return on your money by getting the dividend of .10 cents.
Now consider that if you bought CMKX at $2.00 per share, you would now get 05% return on your money by getting the dividend of .10 cents.
So, buying CMKX at $2.00 per share would still give you a better return than what you would get by placing your money in a regular savings account.
The rate of inflation is 3% per year. Buying at $2.00 would also give you a rate higher than the rate of inflation.
All of the stock and cash dividend scenarios are all from a speculative point of view for consideration to give you a format to use once factual information is released by the company to determine the fundamental value in CMKX. These are ways in which I believe Urban will be building value in CMKX as a powerhouse dividend distribution machine through Operation Dividends.
By building CMKX into a powerhouse dividend distribution machine, the market makers (MMs) will have no choice but to cover to keep from burying themselves deeper in this naked short position they created for themselves. They are already embarrassed at how they underestimated the potential of CMKX and they know that they are in trouble, trust me on that one. Urban wants to instill in CMKX enough value to place CMKX in the position to maintain the levels of covering from the MMs once achieved.
Eventually the MMs will have to increase the bid to entice us shareholders to sell at our desires for them to cover. They will soon see that the value that CMKX will be revealing will force them to see that it’s not a matter of ego, but rather a matter of survival for their existence. They will be suspended from trading if they don’t come clean to rectify this problem in my opinion.
Urban does not want us to sell any of our shares though. He wants to take care of us through Operation Dividends. He would like for CMKX and/or the CMKX subsidiary/affiliate of companies to exist for our children and our grandchildren. He believes that he can make us as shareholders see his dreams as it is closing to form a new beginning.
This means that the ultimate goal is for CMKX to go away through what we have been wondering about since our introduction into CMKX, a Tender Offer. Urban wants to put us in a position to where he can send us out proxies to vote on a Tender Offer that we can’t refuse after all of the dividends have been secured in place for us shareholders in my opinion. Accepting any offer now would be like accepting the pie pan before placing the pie crust and pie filling in it before baking it. Why not just finish making and baking the pie so that you can get 10, 20, 30 or more times the value that you would have gotten from originally selling the pan.
I suspect that Tender Offers have been made and the interested parties are graduating to higher levels of interest. The longer we wait as more valuation is placed into CMKX, the higher a price would be justified. The time is nearing for such to consummate as I am sure that such is something you don’t want to wait to long either to transact. I’m guessing that we are about 4 months out before entertaining such thoughts. Again, only a guess.
As for the MMs, they will usually get a huge covering if they allow for a huge price increase because many will be selling to transition their positions to new shareholders with less of a supply to work with because of the increased investor interest that I believe will be taking place in the near future. This will force the MMs to chase the price upwards to not allow the lack of supply to overwhelm them for meeting the significant increase in demand.
As more is revealed, more individuals will be understanding that knowing or not knowing the OS is not as significant as what many have initially thought. I have shown from previous posts how we are a 2+ trillion dollar company through intrinsic valuation. From the examples above, I remained very conservative in my dividend calculations to be considered as worse case scenarios.
When we hit/reveal the mother-load, as I think we will and not in just diamonds either, much will justify prices that will reveal that there still will not be enough shares out there for the needed liquidity. All that you have just read are nothing more than my opinions. Treat all of the above as “theory” until proven to be “fact” by Urban and Team CMKX. Soon is in the eye of the beholder. The time is now!
All is well!
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Hi Gerdi,
We did survive but so much damage here. The house and hot tub did survive. LOL! Still cleaning and clearing trees. 4 trees came down and one landed on the house but no damage was done. We had over a 100 coconuts in the yard all about the size of footballs. All the fences came down. All the banana trees are gone. Power has been out for days. Gas and food are very short supply. The damage on a-1-a next to the ocean was bad. All the lights on the bridge over the river snapped off. Oh yes did I mention all those damn coconuts? Some people stayed, most left for high ground. Those that stayed said they will never do it again. LOL! No kidding! Hey need any coconut milk? Well plenty of work to do. By the way, I hope you got some CMKX. I beleive shortly you will be reading about this stock! Its about to make history IMO!
Thanks to all the posters for the nice post and PM's. We are safe and sound. Now the work begins!!!
Good luck and don't get lost in Tibet! :)
TENNIS!
My last post from the beach! I've battened down the hatches and headed inward! GO CMKX!
BBP!
My last post from the beach! I've batten down the hatches and headed inland! GO CMKX!
WOW----Thats impressive, could be they are turning them over to URBAN?????
(BSNS WIRE) CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces $10,000,000 Joint Venture Agreement
CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces $10,000,000 Joint Venture Agreement
Business Editors
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--CMKX--
CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) is pleased to
announce that the Company has finalized a joint venture agreement
where St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets:SGGM) will purchase a 5%
unencumbered and absolute interest in any and all mineral claims held
by CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in consideration for $10,000,000 US Dollars and
two hundred billion (200,000,000,000) restricted shares of SGGM. The
Company has received a $2,500,000 payment with three additional
payments of $2,500,000 anticipated within the next 30 days.
There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will
produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the
company.
This press release contains "forward-looking" statements as that
term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 (the
"Securities Act"), as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities
Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), as amended. All statements
that are included in this press release other than statements of
historical fact are "forward-looking" statements. Although management
believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward-looking
statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such
expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could
cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as
disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with
these forward-looking statements contained in this press release.
KEYWORD: NEVADA
INDUSTRY KEYWORD: MINING/METALS ENVIRONMENT MANUFACTURING MARKETING AGREEMENTS
SOURCE: CMKM Diamonds, Inc.
CONTACT INFORMATION:
CMKM Diamonds Inc.
877-752-3755
or
Diamonds Hotline:
Melvin O'Neil, 306-752-3755 or 877-752-3755
Fax: 306-752-3754
*** end of story ***
I'm a beleiver to brother! Amen!
Thanks Casprs1...........you guys just focus on good news for us!!!!! Thanks!
BBP!
10-4! Waiting and hoping you make the best decision of which way to head! LOL!
Yea, its been heading right at us for a while. Now we make plans to go inland to Orlando...........its headed there! LOL! Better to be there than on the Ocean.
Thanks
BBP!
Yep we are doing some last minute prep ourselves. Ready to go to Orlando. I hope it does go south. Well good luck and stay safe! Stay in touch!!!!
BBP!
I'm with ya 100% BO! Sorry to hear about your Dad. Thats a sad story. I just lost a close friend who was given a clean bill of health after undergoing cemo and radiation. 10 weeks later she died with no warning. So I feel your sorrow. But I have much faith and hope in CMKX. Lets pray they are on the up and up!
Best Wishes,
BBP!
THANKS.....1EAGLE1....Packen up the last of things this morning! Your lucky your up there!
BBP!
Yes BRO.............lay your number on me!
hay cool, lets get in touch after the hurricane!
I'm on Melbourne beach! South of Canaveral.
Thanks MACH.....yea, just two blocks from the beach. The firetrucks are riding around tonight telling everyone to vacate the island by noon tomorrow! And we have a 8 pm. curfew. But we are leaving tomorroiw for Orlando. Taking my lap top so we hope to read some good news or reports from those going to the races. Has aqny one volunteered to report in???? TIA!
Thanks!
Thanks much!
YES! I just got the latest update. The eye is 22 miles wide. The winds are 145 and gaining. Cat 4 and growing! We are praying it changes course!
Thanks Dave! better safe than sorry. I'm headed over to where we had the HRCT shareholder meeting near the airport! Then I'm hoping we have a home when we get back!
No feellings hurt here! I'm in the process of boarding up the house and property for hurricanne Frances. This bitch is a MONSTER. I'm two blocks off the ocean. She's headed right at us! We will go to Orlando and hope for the best. will stay here as long as possible. I hope I have something to party about this weekend besides a hurrican!
I've been here a while now. You can't have any kind of dialog without being shouted down over there. It sucks!
Hey.........I never thought of that! LOL!
I hope when he comes back he lets me in on his choices!!!
Welcome aboard, but you have missed three dividends up to this point. Not sure if the Sp is going anyway as we may clone into cim, cim may be the stock to buy when it hits the market. Good Luck!
BBP!
Sub...........what ever happen to the guy who clamied he came back in time? never saw anything about it again. Any ideas? LOL!
Lets hope to hell your right! BBP!
Yes I've been out of the loop! Really tired of reading all these theories! I'm just going to kick back and eat pop corn. Pass the salt and butter please!
Has anybody else seen this?
** CMKX Filed Revised Dividend Rates **
UCAD: previous: .0000155 now: .00000962
Refer to the D/L of 8/2/2004, Rate revised by Co. +.00000962 of a restricted share of US Canadian Minerals Inc (OTCBB: UCAD) for each share held. Will not be quoted Ex.
CIM: previous: .028 now: .0256
Refer to the D/L of 8/23/2004, Rate revised by Co. .0256 of a restricted share of Casavant International Mining for each share held. Will not be quoted Ex.
Ref: http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=CMKX&sDateType=ex_dt
Morning all........Having coffee and popcorn this morning, Just waiting for weekend news now!!!
Good Morning all, like most sitting and waiting!
BBP!
I'm with ya brother. Like they say at the HJaunted mansion at Disney "THEIR'S NO TURNING BACK NOW" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well for one thing its the end of a 30 day quite period if that means anything!