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Will do!
It's 1.28mil so you're like 9.9% ;)
OMG! LOL! Deet you are cracking me up! Shady little fella playing both sides of the fence ;)
Most Promising TRUMP will get the $10B owed to Americans
Deet49
CUBA Settlement is Ready Made just waiting on Tillerson confirmation and a Trump stamp of approval ...
Deet49
They have been if you look hard enough ;)
It appears the FCSC has already deducted the bond amount from the awarded amount for $MNII...so the claim is free of any bond payments needed. From the claim itself:
"the total value of the companies taken by the Government of Cuba on August 6, 1960 was $46,872,433.57. However, there were outstanding certain Collateral Trust Bonds in the amount of $1,242,460.00 bearing interest at 6% per annum due April 30th 1965. These bonds were secured by First Mortgage Bonds issued by claimant. The mortgaged security being the claimant's property in Cuba which was taken by the Government of Cuba on August 6, 1960. The Commission therefore finds that the amount of $1,242,460.00 represents a lien on claimant’s property in Cuba and must be deducted from the total amount determined to have been taken by Cuba. Accordingly, the Commission concludes that claimant suffered a loss in the amount of $45,629,973.57 on August 6, 1960 within the meaning of Title V of the Act."
Also, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that all the old liabilities have been written off in the 60's - which is why the full claim amount is reasonable.
The deductions to the claim amount will be taxes (IRS), lawyer fees, and company fees to get up to date, any remaining liabilities (although don't think there are many). Although I'm not sure if the tax hits any interest or just the principal amount from 1960?
Here are some good tax articles to discuss what the impact COULD be:
http://www.ascecuba.org/c/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/v15-ashbymastrapa.pdf
http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/taxation/policy/021716comments.authcheckdam.pdf
We'd find ourselves in uncharted taxation waters with this claim and don't know the ultimate impact. So I would expect around 60% of total payout may be available for shareholders? No idea though... lots of variables to get through.
Why hit the ask when fools are selling LOL. I like cheap shares too ;)
I just find it humorous on EVERY sell, a few say this is dead and everyone knows not to invest here. Again then why are they here? LOL! The only way this is dead is when claims talked have reached a resolution and is signed by both countries. Period. Will we see anything here even when that happens? Maybe not. But it's the other side of that where most of us sit. Why not? The potential is staggering! Do what you want folks, but weak hands will walk away and that's ok. Some of the Bashers obviously still have skin in the game ;)
What are you talking about? Lol That article is positive. No easing of anything until claim talks are finished. And then embargo gets lifted...then easing. Why is this dead exactly? Curious what's changed as of that article that differs from the last 57 years?
Nice slaps today! Just need some bigger bids. News where are you?! Hydrogen bomb about to drop here! $DEQI
The ignore button is sweet bliss on that one. Don't waste your breath there. It's OBVIOUS he's hanging around for a reason otherwise he would have moved on since this stock is bogus lol. We all know what we own and I can't wait for the day this is resolved. So many solid facts have been placed in front of him and yet he ignores them and spouts nothingness. And apparently he can't do ANY DD for himself. So riddle me this... why does someone who sees this as a worthless stock keep posting here and asking for us to lay the good stuff in front of him? If there was nothing here, he would be gone. End of story. Just trying to shake some cheapies. $MNII and $FRAZ going to be monsters in the coming years. I pray I can load some more on both in the near future. Good luck to you and us. :)
Yes sir! Sitting on a stash and smiling. Slow to go, but it's just building up pressure for the big blow!
I'm not sure about Hempazon? Could be, but I'm looking bigger... www.greentouch.guru (Green Touch Awareness).
David Tobias' relatives (Eli Tobias, Peter Nagy, Atom Tobias) are creating this website, which encompasses Hempazon, $CBDS, Wild Earth Naturals, Kush Cash, Hi Brands and more!
So I'm hoping this is where we are headed ;)
I personally feel this is a good thing! We have conceded money to Cuba in return for??? Repealing the recent looseness of the Obama regime might show Cuba what they are possibly missing now and help them to settle things more quickly. I'm all for the normalization...but follow the process folks. Claims Paid, No Castro, Embargo lift. BOOM $$$
Trump pick for Secretary of State supports review of Cuba normalization policies
Rex Tillerson, former CEO and Chairman of Exxon Mobil, President-elect Trump’s nominee to serve as Secretary of State, said during his confirmation hearing he will support a review of all changes in Cuba policy made by President Obama, and that he would advise the President to veto bills lifting the embargo and the travel ban pending the end of the review.
Tillerson said in his opening remarks, “Our recent engagement with the government of Cuba was not accompanied by any significant concessions on human rights. …Their leaders received much, while their people received little. That serves neither the interest of Cubans or Americans.” During questioning by Senator Marco Rubio (FL), Mr. Tillerson also told Sen. Rubio that President-elect Trump plans to “ask all agencies, essentially on day one, to do a complete review of recent executive orders and the change of the status of travel to Cuba as well as business activities in Cuba.”
Mr. Tillerson also said that if confirmed he would “examine carefully the criteria” by which the State Department had removed Cuba from its list of State Sponsors of Terror in 2015 before deciding “whether or not that de-listing was appropriate, and whether or not the circumstances which led to that de-listing still exist.” Mr. Tillerson stated in response to questions from Sen. Bob Menendez (NJ) that he considered extradition of U.S. fugitives of justice a prerequisite for relations with Cuba.
THIRD CLAIMS MEETING...
http://www.minrex.gob.cu/en/third-meeting-mutual-compensations-held-between-cuba-and-united-states
CUBA, January 12, 2017. On this Thursday, January 12, the third government-to-government claim discussion was held in Havana between representatives of Cuba and the United States. The Cuban delegation was led by Abelardo Moreno Fernández, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs while the US delegation was led by Brian Egan, the State Department Legal Adviser.
In this meeting, which is the sequel of the past meeting held in Washington D.C. on July 28, 2016, both delegations continued the exchange on claims made by both States and assessed the possible mechanisms to jointly settle the mutual claims, as part of the negotiating process for this complex issue.
The Cuban delegation reaffirmed that in the framework of this solution, it is essential to consider the claims of the Cuban people for human and economic damages, which are included in the sentences passed by the Provincial People’s Court of Havana in 1999 and 2000, respectively.
The representatives of both governments reiterated the importance and usefulness of continuing to hold these meetings. (Cubaminrex)
Nice pick up! Seems any moment this could fly.
Why are people selling this? News any day... wow $DEQI is about to explode!
Yes the next agent listed could give us some big insight into where we head next. Waiting patiently as things seem to be progressing... $DEQI
$CBDS exploding lately. Need news and this will too...
The United States and Cuba will hold the third government-to-government meeting on claims in Havana, Cuba, on January 12, 2017.
https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2017/01/266891.htm
The United States and Cuba will hold the third government-to-government meeting on claims in Havana, Cuba, on January 12, 2017.
https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2017/01/266891.htm
I truly believe a quarter is possible. That's my target price. It's very possible with this float we can see much higher.
Hey I beat you both! Lol August '15. I loaded plenty around .0015-.001 through that year. Loving the long-term gains now when we blastoff! $DEQI is my dark horse I'm betting on!
So thin here... $DEQI
All good! Figured 4 months is long enough LOL! So many possibilities here though! $DEQI about to go boom boom!
An interesting find...
http://westhawaiitoday.com/sports/big-fish-list/big-fish-list-sept-19
Notice any names on this list?! lol
Sept 16: Blue marlin (150) Robert Milstein, (175) David Tobias, (100) Wayne Zallen, Capt. Steve Epstein, Huntress
So we have Robert Milstein (CEO of $DEQI), David Tobias (Pres of $CBDS, and many other MJ stocks), and Wayne Zallen (CEO of $GRWC) all on the same fishing boat together? Interesting...
David Tobias is also a director for $GRWC (Grow Condos Inc), but Robert Milstein doesn't have any affiliation that I know of there.
Could this be a business meeting? Or just some buddies hanging out? Who knows... but something is up here and we should know soon. Granted this happened many months ago, but why else get $DEQI current?
I know this is a gold mine for traders...but the suspense is killing me!
so unless your just looking to sell into a fit of confusion which is very well the case here, there is really nothing at all....
By the way - what conference are you referring to? I wasn't aware of any. Are you talking about the FCSC meeting?
Cool. Fair enough. I don't disagree. This is a lotto play that may or may not pan out. I'm holding to a few years for resolution, but payment may take longer. And yes, it's possible the shareholders get totally screwed, but I'm willing to take that chance. GLTY
I wasn't talking about you...
But since you answered...what are your doubts here? Just the timeline? Or something else?
Always good to hear educated opinions.
I love how everyone thinks we're saying it's going to happen tomorrow! LOL Never said that. Probably years. But right price to buy is here now.
I'm kind of liking the bashing here lately though. I'm ready for some more cheap shares if fools are willing to sell down ;)
Let's see what the new regime has up his sleeve with Cuba...
So $CBDS submitted approval for uplisting to NASDAQ...and I hope they get it! If we become tied to a NASDAQ stock - watch out above! Come on $DEQI why all the filings recently?! Release your game plan!
Love him or hate him - here is a really good write up on where Obama has taken the US with Cuba.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563a4585e4b00d0211e8dd7e/t/58613d7dc534a5283f47f103/1482767743143/TwoYearAnniversaryOfObamaAdministrationInitiatives.pdf
I personally believe the Obama Administration has given Cuba too much in our $ by easing parts of the embargo too soon. If we give up too much to easily, the claims will NEVER be paid. I think Trump will repeal some of the removed parts that Obama put into place...but this is a good thing for us long-term.
I think it's safe to say that a settlement is a ways off either way.
One thing to key in on for the Trump administration is whether he can get it so US Nationals can privately fund the Cuba payoff. Trump himself or some other well to do may take a whack if they can reap a % of the repayment from Cuba over time (or get area rights from Cuba). Just a thought. But currently this is illegal by US Law.
A long way to go...
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1388
Introduced in Senate (05/19/2015)
Cuba Normalization Accountability Act of 2015
This bill expresses the sense of Congress that the United States should not pursue efforts to ease restrictions on travel to or trade with Cuba, or otherwise normalize relations with Cuba further, until: (1) the President submits to Congress the plan for resolving confiscated property claims, (2) all property taken by the Cuban government from U.S. nationals on or after January 1, 1959, has been returned or full compensation for that property has been provided to them, and (3) the government of Cuba provides secure protection for the internationally recognized human rights of the people of Cuba.
The President may not take any action to ease restrictions on travel to or trade with Cuba under the Cuban Assets Control Regulations, the Export Administration Regulations, or any other regulations relating to the economic embargo of Cuba before submitting to Congress the plan for resolving outstanding claims for confiscated property to ensure that:
all property taken by the government of Cuba from U.S. nationals on or after January 1, 1959, has been returned to them; or
full compensation for such property has been provided to them.
The President shall include in the plan an assessment of the effect of planned actions to ease the restrictions on claims relating to confiscated property considered by the Foreign Claims Settlement Commission of the United States before the date of the enactment of this Act.
There has been no action on this bill yet...
Referenced from here:
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R43926.pdf
Cheers! Enjoy your drink!
I just don't get why he keeps asking for info he can find himself? Lol If he's buying on our DD, then that's a big problem. I ask that Everyone dig and find some info for themselves. I think he buys based on others DD and then gets mad if the DD lied...which is too bad. However, that's not how you make money in this crazy place. I will stand behind my DD as I spent months compiling before I even bought any shares. But others should do the same. I posted what I found - but that's not all the info and new things can come to light at any time. Good luck folks...
Also, I won't post the contact info for Nick because this is a very sensitive subject...this is not a penny stock scam. Nick should only be contacted because of legitimate questions - not being badgered by the normal OTC scum. BUT his info is online - others have found it and contacted him. So if you care enough and have legitimate questions - look him up.
He's a lawyer and works on the Cuba claims for MANY people/companies - not just these ones. In fact, I think it's been posted on this board back a while ago. Dig it up from there. Just a waiting game from here...
I put him on 'ignore'. It's a beautiful thing. Just ignore the fool. He's obviously STILL here for a reason...and the only reason is for cheaper shares. Period. Ironically - since he's shown up, the stocks have almost both doubled in PPS lol. All the info is on the internet for anyone to follow...even him. No one needs to supply him with anymore info, and I sure as heck won't.
To the point though, there is NOT a sure outcome here. Will the companies receive any payment from Cuba? Who knows. Will they disperse that to the shareholders? Possibly. There are other possibilities of the companies starting new companies and we own shares in that.
However, what we do know is that we are buying a lotto ticket to potential massive payouts.
I also know there have been questions around why funds haven't bought this up? Well, it's illegal by the law Bush passed when he was in office. They would pay a heavy penalty. So that is why you don't see these as part of a fund... yet ;)
Thanks for digging. Happy to hear what you have. I'm 100% confident in my position here and the other one. But the more people that find information, the more excited I get! I feel like something is happening though as buying has increased lately...
The Facebook page was created back in April. That's what trail of breadcrumbs led me to Tobias. He was the owner of all the domains you listed. I've been checking his other domains to see if anything links up. So far nothing. Seems like they are mounting all the domains, PI, and patents they can for CBDS. I know Ed is starting to sell his new stardust product and sounds like David is getting into the infused industry too. Makes you wonder if that's where we are headed? Or bringing Wild Earth Naturals public? The suspense is killing me, but think this will be a big MJ player no matter what is released.
Man, this is perfect time to load! My only question is, can we take this over a quarter?! Big players, current, now just need to cork to pop on news... $DEQI