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Until etrade came in and undercut the .001 ask by putting 1MM shares at .0009...
Had a nice start to the day going.
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YTD = +100%
Last 5 Days = +166%
Seems like HNSS is building strength here. We have also crossed over the 50DMA which could put more eyes on the company.
As always, news from HNSS would do wonders for the stock price. I'm sure that as soon as they have their ducks in a row, they will be releasing some big PR's.
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Go back and see why the OS was increased. It's not straight selling shares into the market. HNSS is using its shares for accretive investments, i.e. each HNSS share given out is expected to return more than its worth from another investment.
A little DD before posting goes a long way.
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We are very close to getting back to .001 and above. The only thing keeping us from there are the people who picked up shares in the .0003-.0005 range that want to sell at .001. I think we had about 4MM shares to go through at .0008 and then another 3.5MM at .001. Positive news from HNSS would certainly help us clear through those shares and establish a higher pps base.
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HNSS moves nicely when VFIN is not suffocating the ask. If buyer's bids move up with the pps then we could establish higher support.
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Interesting that a certain MM, known for shorting and manipulation, is absent from the ask for the first time in weeks/months. May be a good sign?
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You had it at the ask? Very strange that VFIN didn't short to you if you were trying to buy at the ask.
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New MM on the buying side, CANT. www.cantor.com
Reading up on them now, it seems they are an investment bank and have a group specifically for the health care industry.
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So you are telling me Etrade and Fidelity are non-DTC trading houses? I've spent hours on the phone with them and they have assured me multiple times that there is no chill.
The reason TDA wouldn't allow buying/selling of HNSS had something to do with Penson right?
There's no spin here, just two people getting two different stories.
FYI, I have been purchasing consistently, with no issues, for the last 14 months.
There is no chill on HNSS.. There is no "chill" either. Stock is trading and HNSS does not show up on any DTC ineligible lists.
Just because your specific brokerage decided to not let you sell a certain security does not mean the stock is chilled. It is a direct issue with your broker.
I have called BOTH my brokerages and BOTH have said HNSS is not under any trading restrictions.
Maybe time to switch brokerages?
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As much as I would like to see updates, its probably going to be at least a few weeks before we can expect to hear anything. I have a feeling Black wants to make sure all investors are back from their holiday hiatus before he starts putting out news.
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I think that that is just one (or two?) brokerages who are being OVERLY conservative in what stocks they will let their customers buy. Not sure why they chose to ban HNSS as I know some other "buyer beware" stocks that could be bought and sold at that brokerage last time I checked.
I know you pay attention and do your own research so I'll just say... I'm waiting for an update from HNSS on the current OS and trading situation we have seen since 11.18.2011.
Happy New Year.
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The "investment community" is the group of people buying up the shares...
You ask why people aren't loading up on the "cheapies", well, we ARE and we HAVE BEEN for several months now. Where do you think the volume comes from? Its the "investment community" buying the shares.
HNSS is priced low because we have not heard from the company in a while. Impatient shareholders decide to sell and when they can't get a good price, they drop their asking price. Buyers (like me) step in a buy those shares because we think they are being sold at a HUGE discount to the future price of HNSS shares. It is not priced low because people think it is a scam. If people thought it was a scam there would be ZERO buying and that is just not what is happening. Also, as we have seen (and I have been documenting for a month now), there is A LOT of market manipulation going on with HNSS. Just yesterday, the total volume traded for the day (a little over 8MM shares) did not add up to the amount of individual trades. Every trade at 12PM NOON EST yesterday DID NOT SHOW UP ON THE TRADE TAPE. That was 7MM shares that "somehow" did not get posted on the Time & Sales window, yet they were included in the total volume. I have screen shots of this that have been sent to Black and sent to Etrade for further review. Things like this have been going on for two months now and it has had a dramatic impact on price.
You really don't know what you are talking about when you call HNSS a scam. There is so much going on under the surface and you do not even seem willing to put forth the effort to uncover the true facts, but you are more than willing to call HNSS a scam without having and real evidence to back it up. The amount of DD available outside of iHub is staggering. Unfortunately, the longs have been forced to keep our findings private because the facts would be twisted beyond recognition if they were put into the hands of the spinsters on this board.
Good Luck.
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Olanda - Shoot me an email when you have time, you should still have it from that last time we spoke. I am limited to 2 posts per day on the HNSS forum.
What do you mean "quite still"?
Olanda, please remember who you are trying to converse with on these boards. Unfortunately, not everyone here wants to see HNSS succeed.
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Its not strange. We just don't want to share with you :)
Along with King and several others, I received a personal email from Black a few days before Christmas. It did not contain any information that is not already public, and it was a personal message to me that I don't feel needs to be shared on a public forum.
HNSS management is hard at work trying to bring value to the company by growing it intrinsically. They are not interested in issuing a bunch of pump PR's that will benefit a few shareholders but could jeopardize the company's opportunity to come out with a product with a huge competitive advantage in the current marketplace. Wouldn't you rather see HNSS be successful (and take us along for the ride) rather than see HNSS pump up the pps so you can sell your shares, only to have the pps drop right back down?
*In response to your post*
Nice Latin. Fortunately for us, HNSS is a YIELD. HNSS is not a caveat emptor.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/hnss/quote
Therefore you are incorrect in your original post. Be careful with your posts, please, as posting inaccurate information can be very damaging to a company's reputation as well as the poster who too hastily posted non-facts.
Shorting is rampant in the OTC/pink sheet markets. Why do you think it is the subject of so many SEC discussion groups and ongoing policy changes?
We will know more about what is going on with HNSS next quarter. Not long to wait.
Congrats on the purchase, hope you got some of those .0003's. I bet you have a killer avg pps!
Thanks for posting.
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I think you are right, I walked away from the desk when this all occurred. But, my screen still shows UBSS with 11.99MM shares at the bid. Going to restart L2 and see if it gets cleared up.
Thanks
No, the bid did go to .0002. What concerns me is that right before that, UBSS had 12MM on the bid at .0003. So what, they took their bid off, let some shares get sold at .0002 and then put their bid back on? Just a little side step routine to drop the price? I don't get it.
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Nope, this isn't driven by dilution though. The only real shares that are being sold are from guys who bought at 3 or 4 and selling at 4 or 5, respectively. UBSS was on the bid (.0003) looking to buy 12MM shares and SOMEHOW a trade goes through at .0002. Tell me, how does that happen? How does a trade go through UNDER the bid?
Yep, 20MM shares on the bid. No sense is slapping the ask as VFIN will make sure you immediately lose value. I've been watching VFIN keep downward pressure on the ask for a month now as he has helped walked the pps from .0013 (the high of a few weeks ago) down to .0004. Might as well bid sit in case they try another shake down.
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This is the question for you...
annnnnnnd.... cue the flippers.
Good luck scraping up some shares here.
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Lannes, you still in HNSS? Haven't seen you post in a while.
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Etrade and Fidelity. I use both.
Are you watching L2? I wanted 3.8MM shares hit the ask, half were bought from ETMM (real shares) and the other half from VFIN (fake shares). Then IMMEDIATELY after the buy at the ask, a 2.6MM share trade goes through at the BID and yet, the person sitting on the bid never got any of those shares. VFIN sold short at the ask and covered at the bid and its easy to see if you watch L2. Lots of "shares" trading hands, but lot sizes on the bid/ask don't change much which says the MM's are playing games.
As far as what it will take to end the games.. its been covered here daily. You and I know it will take the company coming through. The difference, is I believe they will, and you believe they won't.
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yep, as usual.
9.9MM shares traded today. 7MM bought at the ask coupled with a VFIN dump of 2.6MM at .0005 to try and keep the price from running.
Watch for what?
Nevermind, looked at your previous post about this pattern of short bursts prior to big moves.
I use both for HNSS. Fidelity charges 7.95 to buy (have not sold any HNSS yet). Etrade charges 9.99 to buy and sell.
From what my fidelity broker says, there should not be any significant charges occurring from selling any normally trading stock, and from everything we know, HNSS is still trading normally (no one actually knows why zecco or TDA decided to block customers from buying HNSS except they deemed the stock, "a risk").
We still do not know if HNSS is not DTC eligible. We only know that certain brokerages either won't trade them, or are charging exorbitant fees when we try to sell. Etrade and fidelity have both stated, several times, that HNSS is trading just fine and every share I show in my account is most definitely mine. They know of no restrictions placed on HNSS as of Friday 12-16-2011