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Don't see anyone calling that panel conservative.......Both parties are tending to call into question the judicial system any time a ruling goes against them......Trump will do enough of that (like he did today) for both parties....Dems should stay above that fray as much as possible......And the CO ruling was 9-0 as I pointed out.......There may be plenty of 6-3 down the road...
6 is enough to control the scrotus and not difficult to find a conservative panel.
Otherwise, stfu. Nah
I think dems would do well to listen to Carville,,,,, His criticism is ment to be constructive and he is a player for the team dem...
And Yeah, sense of humor is just that, everyone needs to lighten up a bit........And I think he made a good point in his own way,,,,,Same as Maher's criticism, they both want dems to branch out,,,As Biden once put it, govern for all....
both Maher and Carville want Biden to win...
Well glad to hear I didn't offend you and that you listen to Maher from time to time...I can remove misogynist from the list....
Maybe not you but Mahers segments are met with many a post not liking him here..And his battles with progressives are well known.........
Of course the appeals court didn't decide the whole case yet.....That will have to be appealed on the basis of the case as a whole and the judgement against..... Honestly, many a judgement has been reduced on appeal in civil cases, so...
The court only ruled on the amount of bond till an appeal is is filed and heard.....175mil still isn't peanuts but its not allowing a punishment to be incurred before an appeal either.......Which taking procession assets is........
Without politics involved, seems fair enough, considering it will be appealed
I think only multinational companies have ever had a bond so high
A good read if you care to
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/mar/22/donald-trump/trumps-454-million-bond-for-new-york-fraud-case-is/
Larger companies have paid for appeals bonds of $1 billion or more, or twice the value of the one former President Donald Trump faces.
An appeals bond that is the value of the one Trump faces is more common for larger companies than for a closely held, privately owned company such as the Trump Organization, experts said.
This judgment’s size is not unprecedented, according to examples provided by James’ office and an expert we contacted. A judgment that big is more common in cases involving large or multinational corporations than with a privately owned, closely held company such as the Trump Organization.
Progressives don't seem to like Maher either,,,I think he is quite centrist and has a bit of common sense progressives could use,,,So it was easy to paraphrase him
And I'll add misogynist to your opinions of me....
A 5 Judge panel decided,,,,They must all be Trumpers eh.....Just like the 9-0 SC ruling on CO.....
Maybe the appeals court understand what is obvious to all except dems......
It will further the narrative that dems are abusing power, Jail em or break em,,,,not so unlike other countries do and the US never did until now.........
Dems had plenty without the over reach, to bad they chose extremes
On the bright side, you get the hush money trail beginning in april.....A case the feds turned down, then bragg, then a reversal due to political pressure?
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4554214-judge-sets-trumps-hush-money-trial-for-april-15-rejecting-further-delay/
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/25/nyregion/trump-bond-reduced.html
The ruling by a five-judge panel of appellate court judges is a crucial and unexpected victory for the former president, potentially staving off a looming financial disaster. Had the court denied his request — and had he failed to obtain the full bond — Mr. Trump was at risk of losing control over his bank accounts and, eventually, even some of his marquee properties.
Again, the polls most be meaningless..... Mid 60% disapproval and mid 30s approval throughout Biden's tenure....
Yeah, chose the 6min one due to short attention spans here.....No doubt the kid was an amateur in his narration but content was very similar to other writings on the subject.....Maybe you'd have to debunk them all, a trait in all collapsing societies....
NASA
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/03/heres-how-nasa-thinks-society-will-collapse/441375/
MIT
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/03/heres-how-nasa-thinks-society-will-collapse/441375/
Turchin
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/12/can-history-predict-future/616993/
https://eand.co/how-societies-collapse-91fcd98f03d3
Our buddy Hanauer on pitchforks (add the h if you want to watch)
ttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bBx2Y5HhplI
Modern Society can't take an uprising.... Be it left or right.....I can now see the left getting riled up if Trump should win and then met with opposition.......Look at how vulnerable society is by using the beginning of the pandemic as an example.....Anyhoot, all agree, society's never see it coming till its too late....
The 'Poseur is a nice touch, you have your opinion and I have mine...Progressives do have a reputation, not sorry in the least to speak it out loud....
To take the opinion further, you and yours do more to divide the country than anyone else.....And somewhat Quoting Maher they 'act like a bunch of 'mean girls' .....Not a good look and certainly a break down in manners and civility....Not much at setting an example either......
Well you're back into pure progressive style.....Must say it doesn't look good on you....
Enjoy,,,knew what I'd see if I checked back in....But enjoyment of this kind in the world, goes to show where we're at and where we are headed.......
Particularly like Glubb's list, the complexity part and maybe our trigger, the pandemic, you'll like the first two segments also
Edit: Its how he governed especially at the beginning and most of all at this point in time....Bad move in my opinion...
I don't mind liberal thinking in the old context of years ago...To me progressives have gone overboard on what they advocate for now days....And they paint the dem party as such......
Guess it boils down to the primaries and who controls them for both parties....Now the center loses out with the 2 party system....
(Remember, 70% didn't want Biden to run again, and 70% didn't want either to run again)
Let you go for now, you all enjoy
GN
Yep and that author confirmed what I said, what we've seen and there is much more as I said, whether you want to believe it of not has no bearing on it.......Maybe you are just more progressive and he seems about right to you...
Put plainly, someone deserved that insult, its was kind considering....I don't engage in the insult thing personally,,,But the one in question was funny and well deserved.......
Yes, Biden is governing as a progressive. But that shouldn’t surprise you
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-05-16/joe-bidens-governing-as-a-progressive-thats-a-surprise-only-if-you-werent-paying-attention
I'm not going to look it back up but it was a legal scholar on all the trump cases about the more you attack him thing...common sense also comes into to play
Be as condescending as you like, that doesn't change matters or make you right,,,,Id be obliged if you cut that crap out..
Oh and if you care to look, much a has been written about Joe and the progressives,,that one had a good headline and shows how he governed right out of the gate
I call BS on the 'insult',,,,,someone has quite the history, to say the very least....
Great time to be offended, lol.....But someone else is even more so,,,,so their was a little medicine back...
Like I say, progressives can be quite the hypocrites, especially in the offensive category.....
Good on the past,,,Gallop has the current numbers as posted and others saying the same....
Edit..I didn't say trump was a centrist......I said Biden should have governed like one.....Even just for politics sake, independents are up to 49% and then there are Moderates in the 2 parties......Note his approval rating overall, and his approval rating on all the issues but one....
Trump represents an anti everything to people......Many are at the point they don't even like him much.......
Pointing out congress is good and you're right....But its an anti establishment vote,,,,And dems aren't so different, their candidates are more and more to the extreme progressive side.....But you don't see older dems leaving like they probably should.....Guess that's why they look like the status quo on top of their governance......
I don't disagree with you about the craziness, still its a result from....I can understand you and dems being befuddled by it all.....But that's all the further you have been willing to go and has been since he hit the scene....
One person put it well, the more everyone goes after him, the more popular he gets......Thats how it was in 2016 and how its shaping up now...
Ok, now its just talking points....Joe gives a good speech on those subjects around election time...Those bills are also full of lawyer speak as Ive pointed out to........Dems killed bipartisanship with adding BBB to Infrastructure right after it passed the senate.....Bowing to the progressive wing....And have had a largely progressive agenda when it was time for a centrist one.....That and some missteps like Afghanistan and Joe last press conference... (One of only 33 for his presidency)
An always and expanding the social net is not what the country needs nor can now afford.....We are in another K shaped recovery, thats what people feel (again) and the indicators don't show how people are feeling the economy...All the indicators were great for the other K shaped recoveries...Just good for whom?
So thats what people feel and its up in the middle class now too...And its been building and building
One I remember with distinction was his Gettysburg speech.........Now we are more divided than ever, just listen to the pundits and both sides of media.....
I like Joe too....More as a grandfather now, lol.....So if I want to just fall in line, I might do as you say I left the entire article....
Many of our discussions are a little deeper than just rhetoric and pats on the back......Ive been talking with some of these people for years......Agree with them on many issues.....Know they are wrong about many to now.....
So unless you want to make the discussion a bit deeper, Ill add more to the over 1100 posts in my mail box that aren't read by the first 8 words alone....
Not that I don't think you shouldn't express yourself, others will read it.....But I think too many have fallen in line on both sides and that's one of the biggest problems we face.........
Ok, I get you and have,,,,,,What does history say, and has shown, about what happens when income inequity gets out of control......Can I point out Hitler, The French revolution, china, Cuba and so on.............
Everything you just said is true its just the result of,,,,And nothing dems have done will lead them to think things wont continue, just keep the status quo and slot of people are now sick of the status quo or there wouldn't be a trump in America of all places......
It never ends well
Repubs did start it, but dems joined in, as I've posted and proven, thats the part you and dems don't want to see and why things aren't changing as far as trump is concerned
Think Carville is right?
Carville: ‘Too many preachy females’ are ‘dominating the culture of the Democratic Party’
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4552950-carville-too-many-preachy-females-are-dominating-the-culture-of-the-democratic-party/
Democratic strategist James Carville argued “too many preachy females” in the Democratic Party could be to blame for President Biden’s bleeding support from key voters.
In an interview published Saturday with New York Times opinion columnist Maureen Dowd, Carville voiced concerns about the culture of the Democratic Party and how it could be impacting Biden’s support among voters, especially those that are male.
“A suspicion of mine is that there are too many preachy females … ‘Don’t drink beer, don’t watch football, don’t eat hamburgers, this is not good for you,'” he said. “The message is too feminine: ‘Everything you’re doing is destroying the planet. You’ve got to eat your peas.'”
Carville, who was a strategist for former President Clinton’s 1992 presidential campaign, argued this culture and rhetoric is not addressing the concerns of male voters.
“If you listen to Democratic elites — NPR is my go-to place for that — the whole talk is about how women, and women of color, are going to decide this election. I’m like: ‘Well, 48 percent of the people that vote are males. Do you mind if they have some consideration?” Carville said.
When it comes to Biden’s low approval ratings, Carville quipped, “When I look at these polling numbers, it’s like walking in on your grandma naked. You can’t get the image out of your mind.”
Carville in recent weeks has also expressed concerns about Biden’s falling support among voters of color and called it a “problem” for the incumbent last week.
According to a Gallup poll released last month, Democrats’ lead as Black Americans’ party of preference has fallen 20 points in the past three years, while their homes among Hispanic adults is at its lowest point since 2011. A CBS News poll from last month showed Biden’s support among Black voters was down from 87 percent in 2020 to 76 percent this year.
Despite his worries about the president’s campaign, Carville noted he “actually likes Biden.”
“He’s a tenacious guy that’s had a real life. He’s a state school guy. He doesn’t have an iota of elitism. He doesn’t even know what ‘woke’ is. He’s been demonstrably the best president that Black America’s ever had, Clinton and Obama included,” he said. “You look at incomes, employment, poverty rates, access to health care. It’s not where whites are, but it’s closer than it’s ever been.”
The Biden campaign is ramping up efforts to reach voters of color, and last week, it launched ads of Biden directly speaking to Black voters in battleground states. The campaign argued another term for former President Trump would be a “disaster” for the demographic.
The campaign later announced a program to engage Latino voters, whom Biden called “the reason why, in large part,” he beat Trump in 2020 while fundraising in Arizona last week.
The Hill reached out to the Biden campaign for further comment.
There is more to it and you know that too......Dems had their three year and are still dead even with trump...Ive given my opinion as to why with many a link to back it up over these months and even yrs...
So, you tell me opinion of why America is where its at today.....
And you know better than it was just the Republicans..... Thats why they now represent the working class...
You always say all trump voters,................Well its more than that, Dems now look like they are the Establishment, to coin the 60s term.....And that's as much of the problem as anything...
Nice to hear you admit the income inequity problem.......Dems had a big hand in it and all people are hearing out of Biden is more of the same that they heard for the last 40 yrs....
And I do agree with you about the repubs and trump, always have....Now its crunch time,,,,but probably past that now too
If my opinion is different than your beliefs, it doesn't mean I'm lying. I just don't believe as you do...
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/finding-purpose/201810/what-actually-is-belief-and-why-is-it-so-hard-change
This social silencing, this depluralizing of America, has been evident for years, but dealing with it stirs yet more fear. It feels like a third rail, dangerous. For a strong nation and open society, that is dangerous.
How has this happened? In large part, it’s because the political left and the right are caught in a destructive loop of condemnation and recrimination around cancel culture. Many on the left refuse to acknowledge that cancel culture exists at all, believing that those who complain about it are offering cover for bigots to peddle hate speech. Many on the right, for all their braying about cancel culture, have embraced an even more extreme version of.....
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/opinion/cancel-culture-free-speech-poll.html
Cancelled culture is another reason trump is dead even,,,,May get back to the origins of America and free speech,then debate......I'll stick to my opinions on where we are today and why and my opinions of progressives...Thank you
America Has a Free Speech Problem..NYT
For all the tolerance and enlightenment that modern society claims, Americans are losing hold of a fundamental right as citizens of a free country: the right to speak their minds and voice their opinions in public without fear of being shamed or shunned.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/opinion/cancel-culture-free-speech-poll.html
Dems are struggling with minority voters and youth,,,they need them to win against trump....seems they want more than to be treated like automatic votes based on racism.....
And no opinion on progressives? Like opinions I hear here everyday about WV and stereotypes, Trump voters, independents who have a differing opinion...
Are you going to start the cancel culture part?
May read this its not so simple.....
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Democrats Lose Ground With Black and Hispanic Adults
BY JEFFREY M. JONES AND LYDIA SAAD
https://news.gallup.com/poll/609776/democrats-lose-ground-black-hispanic-adults.aspx
I also posted Dems are losing Latinos.....May read it.....
Also I have a right to an opinion as I see much of it here......Progressives tend to not like differing opinions, they get down right hateful
Research legal migrants and their opinions on the border and how their support for dems is slipping...My article was one of many....
Anything not far left is far right to progressives.....
Newsweek is a credible source, so no misinformation, just a fact you'd rather not hear
Newsweek,,,,center bias
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/newsweek
MSNBC....left to far left bias
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/msnbc
Keep spouting those, it only shows exactly what Im talking about
Remember those polls dems keep ignoring.....The modern economy is not working for the majority,,,,,,Its just another K shaped recovery and people know it.....And they know, dems don't get it....
Back to that anti establishment undercurrent that is swelling...
Pretty soon you'll be flying a different flag there
I did live there for 25yrs,,,,Even worked the oil patch with Global Marine.....
During the 80 recession you couldn't find a Texas license plate, anything north of Conroe was considered a Yankee, Lol
Texas may well seceded, just not the way most think
81% of Black Americans Don't Want Less Police Presence Despite Protests—Some Want More Cops: Poll
Dems no longer represent the legal Latinos..... Blacks and other minorities grow tired of being treated as if they are one trick ponies.....Civil Rights was a great cause, but the country has made great strides.....Dems trying to drag people back to the 60s and ignore modern issues, they ring hollow.....
81% of Black Americans Don't Want Less Police Presence Despite Protests—Some Want More Cops: Poll
https://www.newsweek.com/81-black-americans-dont-want-less-police-presence-despite-protestssome-want-more-cops-poll-1523093
Dems have become the the kings (or queens) of stereotyping just read the posts here....Most off America is well past it...
Latino Voters Are Leaving The Democratic Party
You're Texas Proud? You don't even take up for your own state......
Im positive most native Texans would love to ask the likes you to step outside........You can't hide behind their good manners and undermine the state at the same time........
Latino Voters Are Leaving The Democratic Party
https://www.npr.org/2021/07/11/1014967344/latino-voters-are-leaving-the-democratic-party
Why Some People Strive to Justify the Status Quo (a social-cognitive analysis of system justification motivation)
Dems don't have a clue about modern issues like how the economy affects the majority and the effects of immigration even when it arrives at their door steps.....Youth, minorities and the working class are growing as anti establishment as the kids of the 60s..........Dems are befuddled why the same old, same old is working against them....Its as simple as they are the republican party of years past when they represented the rich and the status quo......
Just dig into to the old bag of tricks and pander,,,,,It falls on deaf ears,,,Maher made a good point again that dems will ultimately ignore, just as they do the modern economy and immigration.......People are tuning out those same old BS talking points making the anti establishment undercurrent grow........Toss in the abuse of power 1/2 the country sees plainly and add in all the extreme progressive issues dems chose to prioritize........ And you have an anti establishment movement not a political one....
Why Some People Strive to Justify the Status Quo
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/social-justice-pacifists/202106/why-some-people-strive-justify-the-status-quo
There are many ways of looking at income inequality, but they all tell the same story. Over the last 40 years in the U.S. and other capitalist nations, the rich have gotten much richer, while the middle and working classes have stayed the same or gotten poorer (Stiglitz, 2015). In the United States, one of the richest countries in the history of the world, 34 million citizens live below the official poverty level.
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Some neighborhoods are doing better than others all throughout the country and cities........We only see the headlines from NYC.......The Guard in the subway, the immigration problem there now, the shoplifting in parts of the city.....Just read the population there lost 78k in 2023.......And I did read about billionaires row........
So good to know rent is going up and restaurants are thriving in your part of town.....I know the cost of living is high,,,,,As the city told the migrants, go somewhere else, its too expensive here...
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/14/nyregion/nyc-population-decline
The city lost nearly 78,000 residents in 2023, shrinking its population to 8.26 million people, according to the estimates, which were released on Thursday. In 2022, it lost more than 126,000 residents. From April 2020 to July 2023, the city lost almost 550,000 residents, or more than 6 percent of its population.
My bad, misread in a hurry....Truthfully I hope all goes well or NYC...
It's a possibly... And people grow tired of the progressive whitey crap....Dems seem to not look outside their own bubble.....Had they, Trump would be mere after thought...
If you're going to be repetitive, allow me.
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