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Mlsoft, I understand all of that, honestly. But, imo, the "reasons" given for war never made sense. Altho there was an effort to insinuate a connection between Saddam and Osama et al, no facts were ever offered to back that up. And the fear card was used excessively.
We were told that DC knew where the weapons were, and they were among the most lethal. We were told we could not afford to wait for the UN to finish it's inspections because Saddam posed such an immediate threat to our safety. There was not time for international "diplomacy". Yet, Saddam was not even able to mount any kind of defense on his home turf. We were told we had to act unilaterally, if necessary, regardless of the foreign policy implications. Safety first!! It was insinuated that the UN was inept, or worse... And everyone else was WRONG! We were told lots of things and what has been created is a diplomatic and foreign policy fiasco. The US has lost credibility in the global community, and is viewed as the villian. There are serious residual effects...
Saddam is a rotten guy, no question. But there are too many rotten guys, globally. Is the world a better place without Saddam? Absolutely! But given the ideology in the region, what comes after Saddam? And what is our responsibility to the world and really rotten leaders? What is the global community's responsibility? And what is the US's responsibility to "get along" in the global community?? Certainly, we do not make policy based on global sentiment, but there is a responsibility to consider and understand sentiment, at least. And there are ramifications for not doing so...
In the US, the Executive Branch needs Congressional approval to launch a war. There were reasons to question the "drums of war" leading up to "Shock & Awe". And it was our responsibility to question as part of our democratic system. And the "case" for war didn't exactly pass the logic test, as a whole. Even Wolfie said they "settled on WMD" which indicates the "case" might have been made somewhat disingenuously - because all motives or the "real" motives were not known, or disclosed. So, I would not be at all surprised if the Admin did "embellish" the "case" somewhat. Would you? Did they embellish? Were false and/or misleading statements made, or was this perhaps the greatest intelligence failure of all times??... Neither you nor I know for sure. But it requires investigation.
If false and or misleading info was intentionally offered to gain Congressional and international approval for war, that is a MOST SERIOUS offense, and We have a responsibility to see that Constitutional and international law are upheld. If it was a case of bad info, ie and "intelligence failure", then We (the greatest Super Power) do not go to war (risking American lives & killing people) on bad info, obviously. There has to be higher standards of scrutiny and gov, in general. The Pres and fedl gov answer to We the People, ultimately. And they've got some splainin' to do in DC... :)
Test teaching is also a major problem, making tests less reliable indicators and turning schools into testing centers. Lots of time is spent teaching standardized tests that would be better spent on curriculum.
Does anyone remember "Shock & Awe's" opening act??
The massive bombing of the bunker Saddam was supposedly holed up in??...
Not only was Saddam not there, neither was the bunker....
The little bird lied
James Gordon Prather
Posted: May 31, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
Around Christmas of 1998, a little bird told the director of Central Intelligence that Saddam Hussein and his entourage would be spending a specific night in an underground bunker in Baghdad. The DCI knew the Global Positioning Satellite coordinates of the bunker.
Naturally, President Clinton immediately tried to kill Saddam with GPS-homing cruise missiles.
At first, Clinton thought he had.
But he hadn't.
The intelligence community concluded that Saddam wasn't killed by our cruise missiles because the non-nuke warheads they carried weren't powerful enough, nor capable of penetrating deep enough, to destroy underground bunkers.
So, when a little bird told DCI George Tenet on the eve of Operation Iraqi Freedom that Saddam and his entourage were spending that very night in a specific German-designed underground bunker near Baghdad, President Bush decided to try to kill him immediately, 20 hours before Operation Iraqi Freedom was scheduled to begin.
Bush first hit the target with powerful GPS-homing "bunker-busting" bombs specifically designed to penetrate deep into the earth before exploding. After the bunker was busted, then came the GPS-homing cruise-missiles.
Bush thought he had killed Saddam, for sure.
But, apparently, he hadn't.
According to CBS News, U.S. Army Colonel Tim Madere has been to that GPS site to look for bodies. Not only did Madere not find bodies, he reports that there is no evidence that a bunker was ever there in the first place. All he found were "bunker-buster" holes in the ground. No bunker, busted or otherwise.
It appears to the whole world that the invasion of Iraq to "disarm" Saddam Hussein of his "weapons of mass destruction" was massively misinformed, perhaps deliberately.
For the warhawks – if not you soccer-moms – any excuse to depose Saddam Hussein was as good as any other. So President Bush got the highly skeptical U.N. Security Council to pass Resolution 1441, requiring Saddam to admit U.N. inspectors – allowing them free and unfettered access – and to disarm, or face "serious consequences."
The warhawks then provided U.N. inspectors considerable selective "sanitized" intelligence – much of it obtained from anonymous little birds – about dozens of suspected WMD sites.
But, when the U.N. inspectors checked out those sites, they found nothing.
Worse, Mohamed ElBaradei – director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency – was able to report to the Security Council that "after three months of intrusive inspections, we have to date found no evidence or plausible indication of the revival of a nuclear weapons program in Iraq."
Hans Blix – chairman of the U.N. Monitoring and Verification Commission – made a similar, but less definitive, report about ballistic missiles and chem-bio warfare programs.
In so doing, ElBaradei contradicted a little bird named Khidir Hamza and Blix contradicted a whole flock of little birds.
Consequently, Blix and ElBaradei were vilified by the warhawks and their media sycophants, accused of incompetence – and worse – for not finding the weapons the warhawks assured us were there.
So sure did the president become of the warhawk "intelligence," that even before Operation Iraqi Freedom began, Special Forces units were sent to several sites in western Iraq to secure the Scud missiles and their chemical warheads that Saddam intended to launch against Israel.
They didn't find any chemical warheads. There, or anywhere else.
Four teams of experts were sent to help Col. Madere of Fifth Army Corps locate and secure Iraqi WMD sites. Almost two hundred of the most promising sites on the list of a thousand have now been searched and nothing has been found. Consequently, three of the teams are no longer searching and have been assigned other duties.
However noble or successful Operation Iraqi Freedom turns out to be, it is already being judged the greatest intelligence fiasco of all time.
But, perhaps we learned our lesson.
Largely because of our override of ElBaradei's satisfactory report on Iraqi nuke compliance, Kim Jong-il abrogated his IAEA Safeguards Agreement and has restarted his previously "frozen" plutonium production facilities. Obviously, we can't allow him to get away with that. We must insist that he comply with his IAEA Safeguards Agreement or face "serious consequences." We must try to undo the damage done to the IAEA nuke proliferation prevention regime by Operation Iraqi Freedom.
But, whoa!
Time magazine reports that the intelligence community has "recruited" a scientist – and "relocated" him to the U.S., a la Khidir Hamza – who claims to have valuable information on the "location" and "capabilities" of North Korean nuclear programs.
With such a song-bird, why do we need the IAEA?
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Physicist James Gordon Prather has served as a policy implementing official for national security-related technical matters in the Federal Energy Agency, the Energy Research and Development Administration, the Department of Energy, the Office of the Secretary of Defense and the Department of the Army. Dr. Prather also served as legislative assistant for national security affairs to U.S. Sen. Henry Bellmon, R-Okla. -- ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee and member of the Senate Energy Committee and Appropriations Committee. Dr. Prather had earlier worked as a nuclear weapons physicist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California and Sandia National Laboratory in New Mexico.
Key statements: WMD and Iraq
Published: June 3 2003 17:17 / Last Updated: June 3 2003 17:17
Almost two months after the end of Saddam Hussein's regime, the United States and Britain face growing pressure to produce proof of Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction (WMD), the main justification for the March 20 attack on Iraq.
Below are statements by some of the key players in the crisis concerning weapons of mass destruction:
June 1 - Tony Blair says: "Over the coming weeks and months we will assemble this evidence and then we will give it to people... I have no doubt whatever that the evidence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction will be there."
May 29 - Tony Blair, "I have said throughout and I just repeat to you, I have absolutely no doubt at all about the existence of weapons of mass destruction. And rather than speculating, let's just wait until we get the full report back from our people who are interviewing the scientists."
May 28 - Robin Cook, Labour MP and former leader of the House of Commons, "Saying that they can't find the weapons, and they may never find the weapons, blows an enormous gaping hole through the case for war that was made on both sides of the Atlantic. That has to be investigated - a [Commons] select committee is one way of pursuing it."
27 May - Donald Rumsfeld, US defence secretary, speaking to the Council on Foreign Relations, "It is also possible that [the Iraqis] decided they would destroy [their weapons of mass destruction] prior to a conflict."
23 May - Hans Blix, chief UN weapons inspector, "I am obviously very interested in the question of whether or not there were weapons of mass destruction - and I am beginning to suspect there possibly were none."
28 April - Jack Straw, UK foreign secretary, "I am absolutely certain that Iraq had illegal possessions of mass destruction and had them recently and therefore there is every reason why these ought to be found."
24 April - US President George W. Bush says the United States is learning in interrogations and interviews with Iraqi scientists that "perhaps he (Saddam) destroyed some, perhaps he dispersed some" and that "it's going to take time to find them".
13 April - General Tommy Franks says in an interview: "I have not found any that I have absolutely satisfied myself are ... weapon of mass destruction materials."
7 April - Geoff Hoon, UK defence secretary, "As I've made clear, we will find weapons of mass destruction."
30 March - Donald Rumsfeld, "We know where they are, they are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north of that."
18 March - George Bush, "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised ... Today, no nation can possibly claim that Iraq has disarmed. And it will not disarm so long as Saddam Hussein holds power."
18 March - Mr Bush's ultimatum to Saddam Hussein:
"The Iraqi regime has used diplomacy as a ploy to gain time and advantage. It has uniformly defied Security Council resolutions demanding full disarmament... The danger is clear: using chemical, biological, or, one day, nuclear weapons obtained with the help of Iraq, the terrorists could fulfil their stated ambitions and kill thousands of hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our country or any other... Under Resolutions 678 and 687, both still in effect, the United States and our allies are authorised to use force in ridding Iraq of weapons of mass destruction... Today, no nation can possibly claim that Iraq has disarmed. And it will not disarm so long as Saddam Hussein holds power."
5 February - Colin Powell, US secretary of state, "We know from Iraq's past admissions that it has successfully weaponised not only anthrax, but also other biological agents including botulinum toxin, aflatoxin and ricin. But Iraq's research efforts did not stop there. Saddam Hussein has investigated dozens of biological agents causing diseases such as gangrene, plague, typhus, tetanus, cholera, camelpox and hemorrhagic fever. And he also has the wherewithal to develop smallpox."
29 January - Mr Bush's State of the Union address, "Today, the gravest danger in the war on terror, the gravest danger facing America and the world, is outlaw regimes that seek and possess nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons. These regimes could use such weapons for blackmail, terror, and mass murder... Twelve years ago, Saddam Hussein faced the prospect of being the last casualty in a war he had started and lost. To spare himself, he agreed to disarm of all weapons of mass destruction. For the next 12 years, he systematically violated that agreement. He pursued chemical, biological and nuclear weapons even while inspectors were in his country... The dictator of Iraq is not disarming. To the contrary, he is deceiving."
9 January - Ari Fleischer, White House spokesman, says: "We know for a fact that there are weapons there."
9 January - Hans Blix says his inspection teams have found no "smoking gun", but Baghdad has failed to answer "many questions" about its arms programmes.
12 December - Donald Rumsfeld: "It is clear that the Iraqis have weapons of mass destruction. The issue is not whether or not they have weapons of mass destruction."
24 September - Tony Blair unveils dossier to bolster case for military action, telling parliament: "His (Saddam's) military planning allows for some of the WMD to be ready within 45 minutes of an order to use them".
24 September - British dossier on the threat posed by Iraq, "As a result of the intelligence we judge that Iraq has: continued to produce chemical and biological agents; military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, including against its own Shia population. Some of these weapons are deployable within 45 minutes of an order to use them."
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Hate is hate, and evil is evil, even when it's home grown.
It's all the same thing...
A Life Marked by Loyalty, Self-Sufficiency and Deep Hatred
By KATE ZERNIKE
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/02/national/02RUDO.html?ex=1055131200&en=f96abf41d7a41d1d&ei=...
Eric or Osama, it's all the same...
No one suggested Gore would have averted 9/11. Iraq is a different story. But I have repeatedly stated that "We the People" need to take more seriously our democratic responsibilities. Certainly We can do better than Bush, or Gore for that matter. Agreed?
Patriotism is not an issue of supporting a sitting Pres and all of his policies. It's a matter of upholding the Constitution and our democratic form of gov. And as the world begins to question Iraq and Bush's motives, We have much to think about....
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1068859
If Bush lied we have serious Constitutional issues, obviously, and a responsibility to see that our Constitution is upheld...
You know Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony were not staunch conservatives!...
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/vfwhtml/vfwhome.html
Brain, I think we bend over backwards to be accomodating and inclusive in our schools. That should enable success for future generations. In NJ we even have adult ESL and ed programs. What other countries are doing, I have no idea. But I highly doubt that are doing as much as us.
You're family came here and succeeded, as did mine and they didn't look to the State to accomodate them or for handouts. Not that our society doesn't have a moral obligation to aide the needy, but gov is not, and has not ever been the ultimate solution.
He certainly didn't fool the majority. He did not win the popular vote.
It came down to hanging chads and the rest is history.... :)
That is the political bent of the NE, "socially liberal, fiscally conservative", or so they say -- like Christie, Guiliani or Pataki. It's probably the image Bush was trying to present when he called himself a "compassionate conservative". Bush was courting the moderate and Northern Rep vote with that one, probably.
I don't think the law is specific to a child's immigration status, but fedl law requires ESL when English is a "second language" in a child's home. The law may not even reference the legal status of the child's family - only the child's need for ESL instruction.
Don't forget - lots of pregnant mothers cross the border into the US to deliver. And the baby is then a US citizen...
If a non-English speaking Arab student enters a public school, "appropriate" ESL instruction must be provided. New Brunswick district, and Jersey City schools have to be providing ESL for Arabic speaking students, whether the student here "legally" or "illegally". It's the law!
Rummie & Bush gov are claiming they need more TIME to find WMD. But they were unwilling to grant the UN inspectors additional TIME.
They also said they knew where Iraq was hiding WMD prior to the war. Now they claim Iraq must have moved the WMD elsewhere before the war started.
But how could the Baath Party have moved their supposedly large stash of WMD without the detection of UN inspectors. And without the detection of "coalition" troops that were, at that time, surrounding Iraq.
And where were the weapons moved too. Every gov in the region hated Saddam...
The Bush Admin is getting tangled in their own web of lies.... And if it is proven that Bush lied to gain authorization for the Iraqi war, we impeached NIXON for lesser crimes than the Bush Admin has committed.....
Research Shows Similarities Between Infants Learning To Talk, Birds Learning To Sing
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030603082533.htm
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Do you believe one who advocates liberty must also advocate military might?
Do you also believe that if one advocates "patriotism" one must also support the Presidential policy??...
Both are ridiculous ideas, imo.
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But you can keep chirping!! :)
Immigrant Bodies Found in Texas Railcar
By PAM EASTON
Associated Press Writer
June 3, 2003, 1:07 PM EDT
BAYTOWN, Texas -- The bodies of three illegal immigrants were found aboard a railroad hopper car Tuesday, two days after fellow immigrants said they had escaped the sweltering car and left behind their weakened companions, authorities said.
Union Pacific spokesman Mark Davis said the company had been looking for the three immigrants since Sunday when a family reported to police in La Coste that two immigrants had told them there were three others left behind.
The car was eventually found in a railyard in Baytown, a town near Houston and more than 200 miles east of La Coste, but by then the immigrants were dead, Davis said.
The two who escaped had used clothing they tied together to get out of the covered hopper car, Harris County Sheriff's Capt. Robert Van Pelt said Tuesday. He said the surviving immigrants told authorities the three who remained on the train were "too weak to get out."
Railroad police worked with railroad dispatchers to identify trains that had been in the La Coste area Sunday, Davis said. The train had traveled to Baytown from Los Angeles, so the immigrants must have boarded somewhere west of La Coste, Davis said.
Davis said railroad police continue to work with Border Patrol agents to curb illegal travel on trains.
The surviving riders "said that they voluntarily boarded the train and that there were no smugglers or `coyotes' involved," he said. "This re-emphasizes the nature of what can happen if you trespass and get into a railcar, especially during these times when temperatures are getting hotter."
Harris County Sheriff's Department officials said the railroad notified them about the bodies Tuesday morning. About a dozen deputies and homicide investigators were at the yard investigating.
Tuesday's discovery comes exactly three weeks after a stifling truck trailer filled with more than 70 immigrants was discovered abandoned in Victoria in south Texas. Seventeen of the immigrants were found dead at the scene and two more died after being hospitalized.
Seven people have been arrested in connection with the smuggling operation.
Copyright © 2003, The Associated Press
Islamic activism grows in Pakistan
By Farhan Bokhari in Islamabad
Published: June 3 2003 5:00 / Last Updated: June 3 2003 5:00
Pakistan last night faced the prospect of fresh discord between the military government of General Pervez Musharraf and rightwing Islamic parties, after one of its four provinces controlled by hardline Islamists passed legislation introducing Islamic laws.
The bill introducing Islamic sharia laws for the North West Frontier Province (NWFP) followed the resignation on Sunday of all mayors in the province over growing differences with the provincial government run by the MMA, a coalition of six Islamic parties.
"The danger here is that if you let the MMA continue with its policies, its members could try to encourage people in other parts of Pakistan to embrace a hardline attitude," said a senior government official. "But if you block the MMA in the NWFP, its members could demonstrate and try to create instability in other parts of Pakistan."
Analysts said the growing activism by Islamists could be a result of Gen Musharraf's failure to return Pakistan fully to civilian rule. October's national elections, which gave control of the NWFP to the MMA and made the alliance the third largest group in the federal parliament, also saw mainstream political groups condemning the general for harsh restrictions on election activities. Opposition leaders said that, while their campaigns were blocked, the MMA was able to use its network of religious seminaries to organise campaigns.
Hina Jillani, a human rights lawyer, said: "Marginalising mainstream political parties last October has not worked. There are too many contradictions now. The danger is that Pakistan's new political system may not survive in its present form."
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Those questions were probably asked in the 9/11 investigation... But that information is not being made public. You know "national security" concerns - just like Cheney's energy commission documents...
The Mexican gov could always sue in some international court to recover the land they claim to have lost improperly. Maybe you should suggest that route... Good Luck!! :)
"The Arab World is everyone's friend" - excluding, of course Jews (Zionists), Christians (Crusaders), "low" Moslems (heretics??), Americans (the "infidel" enemies of Allah!!) and the entire Western World (also "infidel" enemies of Allah!!). Still, I'm sure they have a few "friends" left. But who's are they??... :)
JB is being challenged in today's primary. I may go vote for him because I think he's probably no greater scamster than the next guy, and because I think dirty politics is at the root of this whole thing. But to vote in a primary election, one needs to declare a party at the polls... I hate to be that kind of a "party person"...
It sure does look like we have created chaos is Iraq and probably greater instability in the region longerterm.
If the Bush Admin lied to Congress to engage in an unConstitutional and unlawful war, then the Constitution should be upheld, and enforced and Bush should be impeached.
What the heck, we impeached the last Pres for a whole lot less than that.....
Because Israel, like the US is held to a higher standard. Consider Mexico for example where gov keeps it's people in abject poverty, yet the activists complain about the status of legal and illegal Mexicans living in the US. Go figure! Maybe we really do "answer to a higher authority"... Or maybe a true democracy is held to a higher standard of human rights and ethics. Or something like that.....
"Red" Mt might be too offensive to some, like "Red" Bank...
Also a "clay" thing... :)
All i ever addressed here was some demented proposal to spit in the face of the hispano with this 'official' language business, it is my considered opinion that to do such a thing would be a mistake, counter-productive to all reasonable aspirations of human beings building a society ..... if you choose to put that down as 'complaint', well that says a great deal about you, and i simply shrug
No one is spitting in the face of anyone. English is the official language of the US. The public sector makes an effort to accomodate every child with "free & appropriate public education" including children from homes where English is not the primary language. Our public schools also attempt to teach Spanish to all children. Obviously, there are problems in public ed but the problems are systemic and not specific to Hispanic children. If you are unpleased, write your congressmen.... :)
Mexicans who immigrate to this country "legally" face the same challenges and opportunities as Europeans or Asians face - including challenges of communication. "Legal" Mexican immigrants are entitled to the same rights as all other immigrants - no more, no less. The Mexican people are equally capable overcoming challenges and succeeding - individually and as an ethnic group. Perhaps you should have more faith in your own people?
Those who come to this country "illegally" are limited by their own immigration status, obviously. Those who do not learn to communicate with the majority are limiting themselves, obviously. But because Mexicans face greater challenges in their own country, and greater obstacles from their own gov, many choose to immigrate to the US "illegally".
And again, I ask - why Spanish, the language of European conquerers? And not the language of the indigenous peoples as you have suggestd - Mayan or Aztec??... As you suggested, yourself, "the world is a melting pot". And humans have always have an incredible ability to adapt - as a matter of survival... Mexicans are equally able.
It's not ugly...
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/cindex.shtml
but VT is my favorite in New England.
But what's the solution? Gov keeps growing larger as the US moves closer to a socialist state....
It has become a 900lb gorilla.
Marcos, Isn't it true that individuals are not permitted to own land in Mexico? The Mexican gov actually maintains property ownership and leases the land to individuals -- with individuals owning the structures on the land? Isn't it also true that the corrupt Mexican gov controls all of the countries resources keeping the Mexican people in abject poverty? Or something like that..... Maybe you guys should "take back" your own country before you consider hacking up the US Southwest??
Fwiw, I've visited Mexico several times - on two occasions travelling to Chitzen Itza where I saw poverty I never imagined existed. Truly! And you have the audacity to complain about the US gov, and citizens?? How is that?...
The ability to make a difference, for better or worse...
Interesting, and interesting that we seem to have forgotten that... :)
Marco, You have your work cut out for you. It's ALL here - curriculum: History, ESL, Spanish, the 3 R's
and complete educational code on the Fedl & State levels - all of it!!...
US Dept of Ed:
http://www.ed.gov/index.jsp
Individual State Depts:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=state+department+of+education&....
Enjoy!! 8`}
Could you sleep at nite with all that goes on in the world?
They enter the Whitehouse "young". They leave "old"! :)
Young George is getting old looking. Who would want that job anyway??... Ug! :)
All curriculum law and content info is available on the US Dept of Ed site.
The State depts have their own sites containing all curriculum and legal info.
Do your own DD - if interested.
Marcos - ESL & No Child Left Behind!:
Five states in joint effort to make ESL exams easier to understand
http://www.tennessean.com/education/archives/03/05/33067159.shtml?Element_ID=33067159
"The federal No Child Left Behind law now requires schools to test 95% of ESL students. They will also be held responsible for showing progress each year in ESL test scores."
Maybe "whackos" is a little strong. How 'bout intellectuals with revolutionary ideas who believe the US Southwest is occupied territory? Or as they say in Israel "disputed territory"?...
Is that better??.. :)
Maybe Young George was a clone of his father??.. :)
Marcos - If you interested, I think Title III covers ESL and TESOL requirements on the fedl level. All children are entitled to a "FREE & APPROPRIATE" public education is the over-riding fedl law. You might want to look into it...
:)
SARA! Nah! I read em all anyway.... :)
Marcos, ESL is fedl ed law - & civil rights law! If a school district doesn't have an ESL program, such a program must be provided for all needy students. Most Americans would support such programs, overwhelmingly. States set their core curriculum content. I don't know of any State that does not include regular Spanish curriculum on the elementary school level. So what is your problem? It's not good to be so assuming. Or paranoid?... At best you should know the system you seek to change or criticize, educational systems included....
Now... you made statements regarding the poor quality of our history curriculum. Do you know that your's in any better??...
How do you know it's better?... When considering the American history, it is logical that Mexico, the US, and Canada would have different perceptions and opinions. Right??...
Also, you said we responded viscerally to the Spanish language - or something like that. If the response was visceral, it was directed at your posts, specifically your assumption that we "hate" the language, and not the Spanish language - at all.
Do they want NH? It's kind of cold and I think they're used to a much warmer climate??...
Thanks, mlsoft! But why do we have to label ourselves as either? It could be the NE mentality - socially liberal, fiscally conservative. Look at our last, very popular governor - CJW... We can all be American's and agree gov has become far larger than it was ever intended to be. Both Republicans & Dems have become parties of BIG gov.