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here we go again - same old familiar pattern - a few new faces and plenty of "this looks good"
anybody out there basing their opinions on any facts?
stick around guys - something big is coming next week - it always is
Couldn't agree more but with what has come and gone over the past 3 years and still nothing concrete to look at we have more chance of reaching the moon
3 cents - we have a lot to be thankful for - not!
Keeping them honest?? That's a good one my friend!
As yet they have not supplied an answer to what should be quite simple questions - what have they manufactured in the last few years and where?
All they appear to have done is locked onto another "buzz".
Honest? I doubt it!
Tease? You can guarantee it!
Based on?
My guess is we will hear something in the next few days, probably to do with Thailand so that it cannot be substantiated in anyway. Then all will go quiet again and a few more thousand shares are made available and a bit more profit from trading will head south.
Just one shred of evidence that this actually lives and breathes and then you would see the price fly - maybe even back to a price that most were induced into buying at by
Molen.
But then again we can all dream!
we are all in the same boat on this one. Where the potential is one can only guess - this lot have nothing to show at all, never had and are unlikely to ever have. Where is all this stock and manufacturing and history?
Next week all will be revealed!!! looooooooooool
If they were got for nothing who cares about the price?
Must be next week!
Yup no doubt about it - the creative juices of Molen and co are really flowing ready to inspire and amaze with their latest diatribe of PR bs that will astound us all.
You heard it here first!
Yes but big things are about to happen - or is that next week?
loooooooooooool
There is no doubt that this form of energy is going to take off and some are going to make serious money. As for this company there is nothing of any substance available to suggest they have anything other than PR at this time and to expect them to be in a position to capitalise by the summer is ambitious.
No doubt this weeks expected news, or next weeks, or last weeks - I get so confused - will clarify!
But don't hold your breath!
as another week comes to an end. Not to worry though it will soon be Monday and then we can all start waiting for news AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
The boat with all those assets should be arriving in Thailand as well
If are selling something you got for nothing why worry about the price? Just a thought
Start???? Are you serious???
They alledgely have 30 years in business. They have equipment totally 7 figures and you say say this is how they start??
This lot have been putting out PRs with no substance for so long how do you expect people to believe? If it was for real, just one little scrap of evidence that they are for real then we could all look forward to the next PR rather than wait for some other piece of fairytale BS straight from the pen of Hans Christian Anderssen aka Molen.
Obviously I still have a lot to learn because I was under the impression that this was such a good deal for the original VGPR investors because we had now got into a company with over 30 years trading experience and assets quoted in the seven figures, whereas before we had nothing.
Oh well live and learn as they say!
How can any buying, sustained or otherwise, start based on the information to hand?
If Bill is so forthcoming why hasn't been able to come forward and give details of where and when and for how long NFI have traded? It isn't really rocket science imho but instead of that he stays quiet much as Heron did before him.
As for Molen stepping back I know quite a few that hope it is a very deep hole!
Regretably I doubt that is the case. When I asked someone to track them down in the UK we found out that all they had was a mailbox - similar to Calgary. That led to being contacted by a share holder there who like many others bought into the original poker idea. Those shareholders the last time I heard had certficates that could not be traded and even now are waiting for the restrictions to be lifted as I understand it. I will email my contact and see if that has changed. Even if they were to fly now those people are highly likely to be left behind.
Me, having bought in I had no intention of buying more to average down simply putting more money into the pockets of those that have been freerolling this from the outset. Molen has a lot to answer for and from what I hear he wouln't be very welcome across the other side of the Atlantic!
I hope you are right but it is highly likely we are all being fed the same BS from a similar source (someone I gave up listening to months ago). In all probability it will be next week, it always is, and when it comes precedent suggests it will be little or nothing substantial.
I damn sure if this stock was meant to fly it would happen if they came out with something of substance that could be proven rather than apparent make believe. I also see a former adversary has reappeared again - albeit under a different alias :)
I see that former moderator and original starter of this board allwaysright is now promoting this stock on the Why Buy board and current moderator Iblong is saying it should happen this week.
Can't wait!
This week??? Not last week? Or........
Let me make one thing straight. I am not down on this company I invested shortly after you started this thread telling us that VGPR was a good thing. You continued to pump it in its early poker days when others, including me questioned the validity of their plans.
You then disspeared from the board and now come back telling all the background of why this should fly. My question has always been "what have they got/done to justify continued support?". Finding a new "buzz" topic is not the answer.
As we BOTH know who was behind VGPR and still chairs this company - maybe you are closer to the man and can find out more than anyone else can.
All this stuff is and has been available to the masses for a long time but nowhere can you find anything to suggest or support that NFI/VGPR have any history in this business.
By now they should have shown us something but wont/cant.
And how many have this lot made so far to satisfy this demand?
The poker thing could never work because they had no idea what was involved. They saw something fashionable that would grab attention and started promoting the idea in the hope they could raise cash. This new idea is fashionable and very much in the public eye and they have jumped in again. Anyone scratching below the surface of their PR will find nothing otherwise they would have provided more evidence of what is real. Clearly they can sell but when it comes to delivering they have nothing - other than of course - next week!
From costly experience - neither!
I wouldn't get too carried away with big name signings. Molen's skill in persuading "names" on board to his big plan is legendary. This lot alledgely signed up a top las vegas tournament director to run the Latin American Poker Tour and nothing happened.
The point you are making?
Good point but it would also be good to know where all this alledged equipment came from. There is nothing on record anywhere to support that either version of the companies actually exists or has existed. If they came forward with that surely it would settle a lot of nerves and get this moving. Of course they can't though because it doesn't look like it ever did!
I find the whole thing ridiculous to be very honest. Yet again we have a totally unsubstantiated PR - don't forget VGPR were originally set up as a quasi marketing company - and there is nothing whatsoever to support what they claim is happening.
So NFI of Canada have been appointed by a company called NFI of Thailand?? Co-incidence in the names?
Not only is the name familiar so is something else - neither can be traced or proven to have existed prior to their respective press releases!
The old PO Boxes must be getting very crowded!
Come on guys this is absolute BS - AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No need to get ansty - just making the point that you like everyone else who believed in this are being strung along on a week by week basis - you only for six months - the rest for more than two years
Was our little wager the 5th of March or April - didn't really matter did it - unless of course it was 2010? I guess I would still be winning though :)
I am absolutely stunned that bearing in mind the date there was nothing on here from this lot yesterday
If I recall correctly one of the first conversations you had with Jacobsen several months back included him getting back to you with details of their CURRENT operations. I guess he never did and hence my concern over PO Boxes. As for running a business with a fax machine etc that is fine and if they came forward and said the same rather than creating a debatable image they might be viewed with higher credibility - even so with "90 years" behind them somebody must have something that proves they exist beyond their own imaginations. As for the $1.6 m in capital equipment dont forget these as with everything VGPR are unaudited statements. Just once it would be really cool if they had one statement that you could take to the bank.
The mother in law says feel free to pop round anytime - she loves whisky and a nice cigar - I would advise kissing takes place first though :)
Are you talking more in hope than anything else?
I very much doubt it my friend. As per usual there is aboslutley nothing to support any of the things they claim. With the exception of some personnel changes this is Vega part 2 - the remake. The bios of the Directors are supremely informative lol - not quite sure how the 90 years is arrived at? Mind you I wouldn't be singing too loud about a career in banking in the current climate - would you?
Nothing is audited and wow all that stock in a PO Box - sorry I forgot it is on a canoe to the Far East. The statement claims a PO Box for one of the directors in the US when he lives in the UK?
As ever beautifully written BS that could so easily have been signed by Hans Christian Andersen.
Naturally the market has responded with a massive 5000 shares traded - no I think the mother in law is going to have to wait!
and in the immortal words of Diana Ross - "and I'm still waiting"
How can you call this fun?
True it is laughable - even idiotic - but unless you have any value for money this is hardly fun.
If something really happens this week - apart from another unsubstantiated PR coming from Molen's dream world - I will kiss my mother in law!