No individual would ever deny another that they cared for their best chance for decent health care. The argument is - is foreign based health care a vialble alternative for most in this country. The answer is no because they've paid their dues to the system and bought health insurance. Health insurance will not cover the wrong "network" in the same city let alone half way around the globe.

I think you guys are getting overly personal in this agrument. Can you stand back and try to understand the perspective of the other. No one is talking about denying someone the ability to seek overseas care. As I see it the issue is fiscal feasability and how it fits into the current system.

I really don't care. The board is junk as far as I'm concerned.

Right now I don't have much to say that's on topic. Geron is being messed with just like many other worth while stocks.

The whole market is a farce, just as our system of government has become a farce. Our only hope as a nation is for the people to get a clue and take back the power of government in the way that the framers of the Constitution designed it.

Impeachment would be just a start.

As for Yahoo, I've been rather in their face about restoring PaulaGem. I've told them if they don't I'll be recommending other boards. After all, if the site has no integrity, what good is it?

and as revenge, it found a way to boot paulagem2.

I really think yahoo is a crock for not getting to the real cause of this mess and doing something about it.

It looks like they've chosen between diabetes and heart for the next application to be devloped after spinal.

My prior post was poorly worded. I was referring to the comma delimited files that used to be available for free download, now you only get them with an expensive subscription.

Bottom line - current short interest data is diluted by a factor of 12 and you have to have access to the prior 11 to evaluate that properly. You don't have access to the prior 11 unless you have a few hundred a month to pay for the subscription.

Bottom of the Bottom line - short interest data is worthless.

I prefer to look at the money flow and on balance volume to discern if shorts are gaming a stock.

So when was this "rolling average" added to the NASDAQ short interst quote?

Why don't we have a simple net quote?

Why were we (the general public) denied access to the comma delimited files that quote net short interest? Why is short interest a big secret?

There is no reason that net short sales and short interest should not be avialable to the general public on a daily basis.

If the SEC really had the interests of the general public at heart they would mandate this data from the exchanges.

"NASDAQ® short interest is available by issue for a rolling twelve months and is based on a mid-month settlement date. '

I don't remember seeing the rolling twelve month thing before, do you know what it means? It sounds like we aren't gettin a bottom line short interest figure.

I noticed that too - think it's a form screw up - not a virus.

It's also screwed up in that you can't even see huge ding dong's monicker any more, so you have to cut and paste the link to its profile.

I'm not the one that grants the posting opportunities, sorry..

But I do think you get 15 a day as a free member.

That's quite a bit if you aren't getting flamed :)

Yeah, but if they're living and posting for the stars & recs - are we missing anything when they don't post?

I just filled out the current Yahoo survey and gave them an earful about Moms. Hopefully it will go to a different department from the abuse complaints and maybe someone will actually do something. The IMGN board was polluted for a long time by some jerk that use the foulest most disgusting language imaginable. I finally got through on the phone to someone in management and that jerk was finally removed and unable to return.

I would encourage Yahoo posters to continue to report Moms, it isn't a totally hopeless cause. Personally, unless they return my PaulaGem ID, I will probably never be a regular poster again. I supported and tried to help management with the IMGN problem and again with the Moms problem on the GERN board. If they can't respect that, screw 'em.

"effing" VS my hearty FU to Moms on Yahoo..

Sorry if anyone thinks it's hypocritical. It really isn't prudery or an attempt to control language. I was trying to keep the tone of this board civil. That's a long gone hope for the Yahoo board and Moms really does deserve a big bronx cheer and a hearty FU.

I don't know how anyone else feels, but I read the Yahoo boards because there is more traffic and occasionally some good information on them, but when a board gets killed by someone like Moms (happened in IMGN a few years back too) I can't understand why Yahoo doesn't take some action.

I can't stand to spend more than a couple of minutes on it any more becuase of the mindless drivel. I'm sure I miss some good content because of it, but generally the board is a waste of time.

I have no interest in making this "my" board. It was here before I took it over, and I have no intention to censor posts unless they are abusive or just plain spam. My main intent in taking the moderator job was to make sure moms & company could not contiune their abuse here.

I hope posters will contine to post significant insights and information here, because it's going to get lost over there. This really is a great format because the search engine works correctly, and you can spell check and correct typos for 15 minutes after you post. Technically, Yahoo doesn't hold a candle to either investorshub or siliconinvestor.

Surprising, but further scientific proof that blastocysts are not human beings.


Researchers at Yale School of Medicine and the University of Oxford have identified the very first embryonic neurons in what develops into the cerebral cortex. They are in place 31 days after fertilization. This is much earlier than previously thought and well before development of arms, legs or
eyes. The researchers found that the...
http://www.kurzweilai.net/email/newsRedirect.html?newsID=5772&m=25501

I am just downloading it to disk right now..

Other things to do.

Sweet - took place on my 19th birthday.

Didn't watch it yesterday because my work computer doesn't have sound. (helps keep me focused :)

Love & Light
Paula

Gleevec - corrected link

http://www.comcast.net/news/index.jsp?cat=GENERAL&fn=/2006/07/23/440404.html

Thanks Hasbro - good articles.

I voted in 2004 and thought sure Kerry would win. Bush had made a fool of himself and the country too many times to be taken seriously. The polls showed that Kerry would win and everyone I talked to believed Kerry would win.

But he didn't.. and before that shock wore off I went to the Geron board and heard Ohio horror stories directly from folks who were there. The more I looked into the matter, the more uncomfortable I became.

That is why I will not shut up, even when taunted and harassed by those who think questioning and dissent is foolish and upatriotic.

Peace (I pray for us all)
Paula

Cabbies in charge of the votes -

"Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 09:35 am: Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Special report with Adele Eisner

Nearly as bizarre as the voting machine sleepovers in San Diego, Yellow cab drivers were disconcerted to find themselves in charge of memory card chain of custody in the May 2 primary in Cuyahoga County.

That was reported on Fox-8 News in Cleveland; a host of other problems have also been identified in a devastating internal investigation commissioned by the Cuyahoga Board of Elections.

In today's meeting of the Cuyahoga elections board, Democrat board members Ed Coaxum and Loree Soggs called called for the resignation of Michael Vu (Director of Elections) and Gwen Dillingham (Deputy Director or Elections). The two Republican members dissented, and the meeting ended with a 2-2 split as to whether to remove Vu from office immediately or try to work with him. Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell may be asked to break the tie.

Bob Bennett, the Chairman of the Ohio state Republican Party, was in favor of retaining Vu, saying "we can't change ships in the middle of the stream."

U.S. Representative Stephanie Tubbs-Jones commented, "On the other hand, you can't stay on the same ship if everybody is about to commit mutiny."

Tubbs-Jones urged the board to come to a decision without turning it over to Blackwell.

"You've had two years to deal with this," she said, adding that handing it to Blackwell would carry a strong appearance of impropriety since he is running for Governor.

Blackwell is the Republican candidate for governor; Cuyahoga County is the most populous elections jurisdiction in the state of Ohio.

The investigation that triggered today's fireworks can be found here:

http://www.cuyahogavoting.org/CERP_Final_Report_20060720.pdf

Two side notes:

Three elections workers were indicted in Cuyahoga County over recount irregularities following the Nov. 2006 election. It is the position of Black Box Voting that Vu and Dillingham's role in supervising the illegal recount should be more carefully examined.

In addition to the indictments, Vu's judgement should be questioned for his bizarre decisions about handling chain of custody for the Diebold electronic ballot boxes on May 2.

Cleveland Fox 8 News found that a letter had been sent by the Yellow Cab company to the Board of Elections objecting to the fact that their cab drivers were made solely responsible for the memory cards getting back to the elections division on election night.

Channel-8 news interviewed one cab driver who confirmed that she was left all by herself with a cab filled with memory cards and other supplies. Chris Nance, Stephanie Tubbs Jones' assistant, has said that he witnessed many yellow cabs driving up delivering supplies with only the driver overseeing the votes during transportation."

http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/show.cgi?1954/32997

More information on the Ohio indictments on blackboxvoting.org. Note to those who say there is no proof of tampering - look a little harder, it's out there.

If the machines have no paper trail and are constructed so that the boot loader controls the voting patters there will be no evidence unless experts are permitted to examine the customized programming.

There is no reason to construct the machines in the way they have been constructed unles the purpose is to create an insecure voting system.

That is evidence enough for me.

Would you expect the police to arrest a burglar with a ladder propped below an open second story window of your house, or would you expect them to let him go in and steal a few things first?

Have you checked out blackboxvoting.org?

Strictly non partisan, as am I.

Volusia county has since dumped their Diebold voting machines for security reasons.

I believe there was a lot of foul play from what I've read.

"Research medical tourism and you will see most going to india are from Africa,Asia and the middle east..............how can they afford the cost and Americans can not.
Besdides.............companies in this country are starting to give this option to their employees.

Maybe if people in this country learned to save rather then spend 125% of their future income and take on debt by the truck load to by a fancy car or big house they could afford to take care of their health."

Research causes of bankruptcy in this country and you'll find medical crisis near or at the top of the list.

Even with health insurance hospitalization costs big time.

Companies giving this option to employees? I think not. It is the decision of the health insurance provider, not the company.

Are those flocking to other countries for treatment average citizens or a privileged few?

But you miss my point. Most people in this country can not go overseas because their health insurance won't cover it. That's the system in this country.

As to the effings - it is rude and abusive. It's the sort of thing that diminishes your argument and the quality of the board. One of the things that was wrong with the Yahoo board was the petty bickering. Folks like Moms and Gramps egged others on. I will admit to giving Gramps more attention than he was due.

I simply don't want this board to go that way.

Peace,
Paula

The "effing" is gratuitous and makes you both look bad.

As far as the overseas treatment - even if your point is correct hasbro - it isn't covered by health insurance so it won't be available to the vast majority of US patients.

It is wrong to make folks pay for insurance and medicare and deny them the most effective therapies because of politics.

My thoughts on Orchid remain the same. They needed profitability several years ago to make the business model work. Now it looks like they won't turn the corner until desktop computers are going into hospitals and police departments that will do the lab work that gets farmed out to Orchid.

The window of opportunity will close on this one.

Just my personal opinion, of course.

Sorry, I haven't worked with that yet. Search feature works well on this site, try searching public posts and you may find someone who has worked through this.

I would love to ask Coburn if he is aware that the source of adult stem cells can be terminated fetuse

Coburn is an ass!

A physician that doesn't know the difference between a fetus and and embryo.

Tex posted this on the yahoo board. I think it might spell out the reason I had a nagging fear of the senate game playing.

"Decoy Stem Cell Bill is set to confuse voters and allow shameless political Grandstanding.--This Decoy Bill would ban the nonexistent practice of "fetal farming" — "removing embryos from women's wombs for medical research". -The other, sponsored by Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., would mandate that the National Institutes of Health focus its research dollars on cures from adult stem cells. All three bills are likely to pass. The House could vote on the two new Senate stem cell bills as early as Wednesday of next week.
The bills would then move to the White House. Rep. Mike Castle, R-Del., who authored the original bill, said he expects the president to veto the embryonic bill quietly, then hold a signing ceremony for the adult stem-cell bill, touting his support for stem-cell research.---->>>>>>-Yes, and Karl Rove will declare that Bush is a Hero, and the Stem Cell President, who just signed a Bill that prevents scientist from fetal farming , and paying poor women for the body parts of their little unborn snow flake children.----tex "

Dew- your post is hearsay unless you back it up with a link.

Let us decide for ourselves.

Yes, but the pardigm for such therapies has also changed. Someone posted that the PI PII PIII pattern was changing due to the non toxic nature of biologic therapies.

I don't have time to go digging on Yahoo, is anyone here that can repost that article? Geron is in compliance with this new paradigm in that their trials are PI/II.

I think these guys do know what they're doing.

O.T. What are your priorities?

I have a google alert for "bush impeachment" and this article showed up today.


http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&artnum=1&issue=20060714

What really bugs me about this article is it is all about PARTISAN issues. No mention of preservation of democracy.

The metaphor used is "fragging Bush" and I quote:

"'Fragging" is a battlefield phenomenon in which an enlisted man throws a fragmentation grenade into the tent of an unpopular commander as he sleeps, with the aim of protecting the unit from getting killed by his inept leadership."

The article then proceeds to minimize the fact that some of us are afraid that democracy and this country are "getting killed by his inept leadership".

If this is so is the fragging or impeachment justified? Should Republicans feel a need to preserve the party at the expense of the republic itself? This is what the article implies.

Conyers is referred to as "a radical from Michigan". What makes this person a radical? Does he promote overthrowing the government in favor of a Communist ideal? Does he ask us to give up our constitutional rights to fight a supposed "war on terror". These are radical ideas.

Conyers is an advocate of protecting the vote. Since when is this considered "radical"?

IHUB and SI are owned by the same people now.

Please post a link to the thread you are citing. My suspicion is that there was an abuse going on because my experience of the site administration is that it is hands on and fair.

By they way, if you are limited to free posts you have the option of editing your prior post and I believe you can send me a private message (not sure about that I'm grandmothered in as I've been here off and on for about 10 years or more).

RU - I hope the guidelines I've given above will help folks to limit O.T. discussions to informative and civil posts.

Peace,
Paula

I'm really uncomfortable with all of the strings attached to the senate's actions. Just smells like a B.S. political move to me.

As for Geron, I don't think it matters one way or another because they are so far ahead with the science. Where federal funding will make a difference is enabling scientists to target specific diseases.

That said, will they give with one hand and take with another. Restrictions on therapeutic cloning could slow down disease specific research.

Merck deal pretty much in the dark. No further information on where it's going that I know of.

Yahoo refugees welcome...

This is an excellent format.