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Umbra was not forthcoming about debt at ALL. Not only has ne never ever spoken about or addressed it, which is pathetic and irresponsible, he released a shareholder letter full of hyperbolic promises RIGHT BEFORE the dump started. If this is your definition of ‘forthcoming’ and ‘legitimate’, then what would it take for you to say, ‘this is a shady CEO’??
Well....68 million dollars....for what?
- 3 up and running S&L establishments. The first two consistently get 5 million $ / year, and the third is BIGGER than them by far.
- Franchise GROWTH - 2 more establishments coming in Ontario and 1 in Arizona. Plans for US expansion. Heads up — these franchise brands go exponential if there’s interest. Look at Pret a Manger, Shake Shack, Five Guys, etc etc etc. A single franchise for these brands typically averages to about 5 million $ in market cap. For us, given the game distribution behind it, could be more, but let’s just keep that figure. 68 million —> 13-14 locations. We’re at 3 with 3 more already set, and working with CBRE to find more. 25+ coming 2019 is what I expect. Also these are FULLY OWNED locations, not franchises —worth way more in market cap.
- Distribution — this has been growing faster than retail. Millions and millions in quarterly revenue growing nonstop. Exclusivity on multiple titles. Growing warehouses in both size and number. Here’s a growth indicator—we’re in talks to acquire among the biggest game distributors in Canada. Another in Europe. And another being targeted for US. Our distribution can easily increase 10 or 20 fold as we expand throughout the rest of Canada, Europe, and the US. And it’s ALREADY netting millions per QUARTER. So how much distribution revenue do we need for that 68 million $ market cap? At a profit margin of say 15% and a generous PE ratio of 30, we need 3.7 million in quarterly distribution revenue. So unimaginable, I know! And you know what, I didn’t even bother to mention NSI recently acquired which is on track to regain 18 million $ annual revenue.
- Publishing — self-publishing is variable. Some games bomb, some games are 100 million $ hits. So we could hit over our current market cap in annual revenue from a single successful game.
- Gro3 — 3+ million from one contract. You do the math, I already did it for distribution lol.
- Gro3 + NSI — theyre developing an infused drink, it’s already been announced. Yeap, we have as much potential as a POTN or a NUGS based only on a throwaway side venture of infused drink lines. Exciting, I know...
In other words—EACH and EVERY aspect of AMFE’s business sides actually supports a 68 million $ valuation. And we have ALL of them, not just one. Hope I helped ;)
Too far red to sell.
Just read through my post compilation lol.....dozens of lies.....he PR’ed an energy farm completed years ago lol...”this will significantly add to the top and bottom line”.....where the hell is it?
Every day people say that and everyday we see new lows. Why on earth would you buy now? Do you expect an immediate turn around starting NOW? If so, why? What makes you think that the moment you buy Mr Alex Unbra stops screwing us? Lol......people are going to lose everything here, myself included. Every passing day Mr Alex Umbra looks more like a fraud and a clown. I’m not saying he is 100%, because there could be some secret reasons explaining his reprehensible behavior, but it definitely looks like it.
Well today bodes amazingly well for when the audit + uplist + PR news + spin-off/dividend ACTUALLY HIT...wow guys...
Reposting what I wrote a couple days ago....maybe we can find some humor in having gotten scammed lol..
Do you folks remember this one?
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/umbra-applied-technologies-group-increases-revenue-guidance-2017-12-06?siteid=nbsh
80k was the result.....no biggie just a 560% overestimation...
How about this one?
http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/umbra-applied-technologies-group-approves-stock-buyback-otc-pink-uatg-2092075.htm
So I guess at a PPS of 0.002 we should expect share reduction of 1 billion shares anytime now? Looking forward!
That PR also mentions..
"...company's anticipated release of its flagship UBR-16 and PRP-30 battle rifles..."
Well they must REALLY be anticipated now because that was over 2 years ago!
Or maybe even this one!!
http://uatgroup.com/complete-energy-farm2/
Here, 4 years ago, we heard:
"The Energy Farm Program is expected to have a positive effect on UAT Group revenue and market cap in the short and long term projections, creating exceptional return on investment for UATG investors."
Well idk, maybe it's an invisible wind farm? That would be REALLY high-tech, damn!
And apparently this invisible wind farm has been profitable since 2015! WOW!
http://uatgroup.com/umbra-applied-technologies-energy-subsidiary-to-reach-profitability/
"...the division exceeded previous projections and is now projected to show a profit."
Building on its expertise in invisible technology UATG has also sold 1000 units of invisible guns called the InvisUmbra-16:
http://uatgroup.com/uatg-opens-sales-channel-for-umbra-arms-battle-rifle-ubr-16/
"We anticipate beginning the delivery of these weapons platforms in September and have already begun preparations to deliver the first 1000 units."
This invisible technology can only be seen by a lucky few. Take UATG's revolutionary new blood storage technology, which can preserve blood platelet's TEN TIMES longer than anything else on the market! Well, you probably can't see it....
http://uatgroup.com/uat-blood-management-system/
Why? You're not one of the "Those lucky enough to have seen and are familiar with the new “blood bag” have been quoted as saying, “[The UAT BMS] has the potential to be a paradigm shifting technology in blood product storage and platelet preservation.” "
I really could go...and on....and on.....
Apparently we have a battery with 100x more voltage than a simple duracell at the same size. Apparently we have a PowerCube TM which recharges itself from ambient temperature differences. Apparently we have a laser gun based off the Lorentz force. Apparently apparently apparently. Apparently we have no revenue apart from socks. Made of the one technology UATG has been saying the LEAST about over the last 5 years.
Maybe it's real....maybe it's not. We'll see.
All longs are too deep in the red to sell. Hence why they are mad at Mr Alex Umbra who overpromised (could say lied) and under delivered (could say took shareholders laughing all the way to the bank)
You’re really not, you’re just incapable of basic reasoning lol. How can I tell from filings what’s in the CEO’s head dude? You realize the situation can CHANGE, right, he can rack up more debt if he feels like it.
You’re totally right! And I’m willing to wait. I mean I wasn’t here for them unfortunately but both the previous run ups lasted a full month. So I’m not expecting to see 0.5 in a day!
Do you guys know when we get Quarter 2? That should be great as well. Some things to look forward to:
- Baseline 3.5 million $ from 2 Toronto locations + distribution (Q2)
- Full quarter of Midtown revenues
- Full quarter of growing Natural Stuff revenues
- Could see the 3+ million in revenues from Gro3
- ‘Regular’ growth in the distribution/publishing side
I think we’re going to see a big quarter guys....
.....and that’s before we acquire one of the largest game distributor in Canada, as well as US based and Europe based publishers and distributors. And, of course, expand our distribution and brick and mortar business into the US, the largest market by far. How long until the ‘baseline’ quarterly revenue is 10+ million?
Moment of truth fast approaching here. Will dilution end or will AS increase?
1 hour 40 minutes left until market opens! I haven’t sold a share since I bought 3+ months ago and don’t plan on starting. If you read my past posts you will see I was worried about people deciding to sell because the volume was so low with few people trading. So even a couple people bailing were even to take us down. Now my worry is INVERSED. People will hold tighter than ever and there will be new buyers following the uplist—bigger buyers. What happens if you want 500k, 1,000,000, 10 million shares? It’ll have to be at a price people are willing to sell at..
What a way to start the day! Thank you Roger for completing the audit!
Absolutely agreed! And 15 locations is absolutely nothing to sneeze at and quite impressive! With 15 fully owned locations and 2 years of growth on the distribution side, along with all the acquisitions and publishing we’re expecting, we could see 20+ million as a quarterly BASELINE with those 15 locations. Last year the 2 Toronto locations brought in 5 million $. Midtown is bigger, but let’s assume to be conservative the future locations are closer to Toronto’s figures and average 2.5 million a year. We would be looking at nearly 40 million of annual revenue based off brick and mortar alone. And as you say it’s hard to predict. In two years time, end of 2019, it’s totally conceivable to be at well over 25 locations. If we get 5 more going this year, we’d need just under 2 per month for 2019. Once franchising picks up steam and investors get interested, under 2/month can absolutely be done. Again, I’ve completely ignored distribution, publishing, and acquisitions here. (And Gro3...who knows what Gro3 looks like in 2 years.)
When the franchise openings start tending towards exponential, we publish and distribute several games exclusively, and have built more some distribution centers, S&L becones enough alone to hit 1$ PPS
That’s an interesting way of putting it. I would actually say a long had enough of waiting and couldn’t get a buy until 0.13s. Roger if you’re reading please complete the audit. We’re not recovering....
IMO another long bailed actually....we need the audit.
IMO that’s really really slow paced...I’m hoping more along the lines of 10 and exponential from there. It’s easy to capitalize based on existing assets (already opened locations).
Please. Nobody buys a 0015 Pink stock except IHub. Sometimes I really feel you misunderstand completely what is happening here. ‘Many thousands of shareholders’? We’ve got a 1 million market cap—lol, average shareholder holds 200$ worth according to you? Guess what, I’ve got 3 million that I bought at 0035. Whammies has 15+ milliom. Tyaz has 9 million. You probably have millions too. Running out of market cap here for the other imaginary ‘thousands of shareholders’. Facepalm dude...the addressable audience for UATG is on Ihub. Nowhere else.
You misunderstand what I said....were out of time regarding dilution. If it doesn’t end, we raise the AS. If the AS raises, it means there’s no plan.
Maybe when you talk to the CEO you should let him know he’s lucky his shareholders are ‘yahoos’ who hold despite 90+% loss year on year and unlimited dilution, and irresponsible lack of transparency.
If he does uplist to NASDAQ, let him try that with ‘non-yahoo’ shareholders like Wall Street banks and hedge funds—they’d put him in jail. So sorry but I’m not taking insult over injury to shareholders.
250,000-450,000 revenue guidance was not for 2018, it was for QUARTER 1 2018
Yes indeed! Foothold in the US coming TOMORROW. Let’s see franchising kick into gear....how many do you guys see up and running by 2019?
Roger stated he would post the audit after hours. So after the day’s trading has ended. I hope to see it this week!
We will never run, uplist, or be a real company with a multi-billion OS. It’s truly now or never. Time for Alex Umbra to show who he truly is. A lot has been promised, to put it mildly. Time to deliver.
I speak for 95+% when I say, “let’s see the audit today”. I think that would make everyone happy.....by your logic, “or tomorrow, or next week, or next year, or never!” Come on, I’m trying to be upbeat here. Magikalpha even said he had reason to believe it came today. So, let’s see the audit today!
Regardless, this has really been a trainwreck. It’ll take a lot to win back my confidence here, even if there is some ‘master plan’ that doesn’t destroy shareholders, which honestly I doubt.
Today and this week is pretty much the final test. All the guys who have been doing calculations and defending things here claimed it was just the convertible notes, and that the last 30 million or so were just the additional service fees UATG incurred. Should be over soon....we are at the very upper limit of what can be explained by the information available right now. If dilution continues into the next few days it means that information is incomplete and we’ve been lied to (AS increase would follow). At that point I would probably take my losses as it shows that there is no plan or vision just dishonesty and dumping for the hell of it. So the takeaway is, it’s now or never for dilution to end. If it continues into the next week days, we’re toast here.
Let’s see the audit today....
He's replying to my post lol. Do you have anything to say about it? Because everything I posted is true.
It's really similar to how Elon Musk did and is doing online advertising, and online payments and banking, and electric cars, and spaceships, and high-speed travel, and 10x improvement in tunnel boring, and AI, and flamethrowers, and, and, and......
It's so similar....there's just one thing different....what is it....hmmmm.....OH RIGHT!
ELON MUSK IS WORTH 25 BILLION DOLLARS
Do you folks remember this one?
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/umbra-applied-technologies-group-increases-revenue-guidance-2017-12-06?siteid=nbsh
80k was the result.....no biggie just a 560% overestimation...
How about this one?
http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/umbra-applied-technologies-group-approves-stock-buyback-otc-pink-uatg-2092075.htm
So I guess at a PPS of 0.002 we should expect share reduction of 1 billion shares anytime now? Looking forward!
That PR also mentions..
"...company's anticipated release of its flagship UBR-16 and PRP-30 battle rifles..."
Well they must REALLY be anticipated now because that was over 2 years ago!
Or maybe even this one!!
http://uatgroup.com/complete-energy-farm2/
Here, 4 years ago, we heard:
"The Energy Farm Program is expected to have a positive effect on UAT Group revenue and market cap in the short and long term projections, creating exceptional return on investment for UATG investors."
Well idk, maybe it's an invisible wind farm? That would be REALLY high-tech, damn!
And apparently this invisible wind farm has been profitable since 2015! WOW!
http://uatgroup.com/umbra-applied-technologies-energy-subsidiary-to-reach-profitability/
"...the division exceeded previous projections and is now projected to show a profit."
Building on its expertise in invisible technology UATG has also sold 1000 units of invisible guns called the InvisUmbra-16:
http://uatgroup.com/uatg-opens-sales-channel-for-umbra-arms-battle-rifle-ubr-16/
"We anticipate beginning the delivery of these weapons platforms in September and have already begun preparations to deliver the first 1000 units."
This invisible technology can only be seen by a lucky few. Take UATG's revolutionary new blood storage technology, which can preserve blood platelet's TEN TIMES longer than anything else on the market! Well, you probably can't see it....
http://uatgroup.com/uat-blood-management-system/
Why? You're not one of the "Those lucky enough to have seen and are familiar with the new “blood bag” have been quoted as saying, “[The UAT BMS] has the potential to be a paradigm shifting technology in blood product storage and platelet preservation.” "
I really could go...and on....and on.....
Apparently we have a battery with 100x more voltage than a simple duracell at the same size. Apparently we have a PowerCube TM which recharges itself from ambient temperature differences. Apparently we have a laser gun based off the Lorentz force. Apparently apparently apparently. Apparently we have no revenue apart from socks. Made of the one technology UATG has been saying the LEAST about over the last 5 years.
Maybe it's real....maybe it's not. We'll see.
There is no support to be found here. 20,000 on bid at 0.0015 lol.....looks like Alex isn’t fooling any new people. Here’s the deal. You’ve funded by selling shares 5 years of loss-incurring operations. Now your stock is dead; it’s time to actually rely on the business you were given the chance to build. That’s what needs to happen here, no more no less. Shareholders aren’t paying for stuff anymore here. Be a real CEO, Alex, you can do it. I believe in you....
Useless to call him...Ejboug did and received a bald-faced lie that debt was paid off. Lol...just hope for the best I guess. There is no transparency or accountability here.
It is not selling. Ffs. How many times do I have to correct you guys. RETAIL IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS DROP. IT'S THE COMPANY DILUTING. The dilution is not over; Thoth et al. are doing back of the napkin calculations based on what has been made public and there is NO reason to believe that is what is going on. Appreciate their effort but the CEO can do whatever the hell he wants, he's a pink sheet company. He claims to dislike the OTC but he certainly has taken advantage of the lack of accountability it affords him lol.
Sure would be great for UATG to be valued at 100 billion $+ lol! At 1 billion O/S you realize that triple digits would value this among the biggest Fortune 500 Companies right? ........
Oh wait...that's 2x Northrop Grumman's market cap. What exactly are you implying here man? It's obvious to me that without a serious buyback we're not going anywhere close to NASDAQ. Impossible with our current O/S and A/S.
Actually some business plans I read from a couple years back projected like 20 million in revenue by now. So make of that what you will.
A month ago you were saying 700 million, so was everyone else here. Now it’s 1bn the new ‘maximum’. Smh. Look st the situation honestly....
Look man I appreciate you Gordo but you are not describing reality here. We are not “holding up well” despite dilution. The stock is at all-time lows and down 80% from recent highs. We’re inches from trips. Can you truly not see how bad of a spot we’re in right now. OS increasing limitlessly taking us lower and lower. We need a SUBSTANTIAL change for any hope of not losing everything here.
The reality is the CEO is not communicating to a sufficient extent that we can make an “informed decision” or understand what’s going on. You may have a privileged relationship with him, but that’s not everyone. We are simply in the dark here. Now I do have faith and I’ll answer your question honestly, I’m in for about 10,000$ at 0.0034. I’ve held all those shares for about 3 months now and will not sell them if there is news that demonstrates legitimacy here. Maybe 10k might not seem like much of an “investment” to you but it is enormous for these levels and given that this stock genuinely trades like a POS scam and the CEO has been misleading at best. Again, I’ll be holding if things turn around here. Key word TURN AROUND, because they’re pretty crap right now. Even you should be able to admit that.