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...follow up post...only kidding.
...that was a joke...only 2 "formers" and two girlfriends...agreed
Yes...on the corner...1 block from the Academy, and catty corner from St. John's ... it was on old 1830 tavern converted into 3 units. Would fly down from NY just for weekends stays...love the cobblestone streets, restaurants on the city dock, breakfast watching the sale boats, etc...always felt like Paul Revere could jump out of the side streets on his horse at anytime...great place to bring a chic...all of my 4 former wives agreed...
Didn't get involved with the politics...libs would have spoiled my experience...
Also lived in Annapolis..Old Town, college avenue. ... great little town...many fond memories.
Yes ...very funny... TIMMY...a LONG'S best friend
Poor shorts...they are not going to know whether to vomit or sh*t first...if they failed to get the memo and haven't covered the 305k or so shares they shorted...they will soon find out they are at the end of the Gang Plank with sharks in the water and 200 nasty HTFBS subs with swords pulled pointing right at them....
lov'n it!
He touts himself as a "short" player...and as such on the technicals ...I doubt very seriously he knows any of the fundamentals of this company nor does he have any idea what is heading his way...
the fun comes when his subs realize its time to cover...and no shares are available. This is not Canada...they cant just hit the Bid...they have to sell on the Ask...(after finding the shares to borrow)
We will not go down without current SH selling into the bid....
Woops...A short got gobbled up with 12K block...at $4.05...how much will he have to pay to buy them back?
No doubt on purely techicals "over-bought" signal...which will be completely usurped by "fundamentals" and "news" ... IMHO could see $5 or $6 this week when you add "short squeeze".
Peter...regarding your inquiry:
"would like to know if these types of meetings occur and wall street entities get information prior to what is given to retail investors?"
theoretically (and legally) they are not supposed to... but gestures and reading of body language also is a form of speech ... IMHO...sometimes more...
it won't be a fight Sons...the "players" played their hand...now if they want it back or cover...they will begin to get concerned "at what price"
No on knows which exchange they "in fact" will go on and how they will designate themselves...you have various segments and various index funds, etf's etc...
...Generating a list would be a good research project for you to come up ...considering all the variables... that would be a great contribution to the investors here!
ps. sellers/shorters will see how fast available stock disappears between $4.00 and $4.21 the closing high on Friday.
index funds have no choice...they are compelled to buy.
buy Van's newsletter for complete understanding... "How To Find Big Stocks"...this March 1st letter (coming out early) should be a block-buster.
Agree...they will take NYSE NOW...
This AM action may be a little shorting by the uninformed, but they will only have to buy it back for lots more upon NYSE up-listing announcement...
...also could be MM taking stock from weak hands ...
I anticipated sell off it no announcement today...figured drop to
$4ish by end of day....not concerned, watch it rocket on NYSE announcement
Also...GIO not accounting for any index buying, and only a few Funds will buy in different or affiliated accounts and transfer over to Fund account upon uplisting...vast majority dont even know about XXII and will be compelled to buy in...
READ what I said: "as I re-call, before the end of the last quarter. On almost the last minute of the last hour of the last day of the quarter...they "announced" a "technical launch".
NOW READ WHAT YOU SAID...on your last post...It is clear you can't accept the truth. END OF STORY
ps...I stand corrected...the actual "announcement" (press release) took place 4 days AFTER the quarter ended.
pps...good night...have better things to do than bantering with a desperate investor.
You must really learn how to read.
You just verified my point...ok..the LAST TRADING DAY of the QUARTER...NOV 29th they filed with the SEC a notice...4 Days AFTER the quarter ENDED...they issue a press release announcing the Launch...
We learned over time why the last minute...IMO...they really were not ready...but instead of announcing that and having the stock take a big hit...we got these announcements to satisfy previous "representations"...We were right the middle and near the end of the $2 for 90 days uplisting for Nasdaq...in retrospect it becomes evident why this all occurred. Does that engender confidence once, in retrospect, you figure out what was really happening?
Actually closer to $100K...but then again I would not expect you to read and understand...only explaining my "hanging out" here.
I am looking for answers no one seems to want to get. Guess you will get all the answers you want on Feb.25th. (if anyone has the courage to ask them and tenacity to challenge them).
It became very evident over time (after Dec 4th) to me and others that...this was not a full launch...that is the issue... People gave the company the benefit of any doubt (even though launch 'announcement' was strange in its sequence) and as it became more and more evident, more and more excuses were made by the company...and confidence evaporated...so did my holdings. I guess you discovered I was correct on the filings and timing?. ...give it up...
Go back and look at the announcements/filings in and around the last days...especially the day after the end of the quarter!... Not a smear...a fact...they effectively waited until the last minute (almost literally) to announce a launch...as though it was a "full launch" IMHO we were led to believe it was ready for prime time and it was far from it.
That is my point and that is my opinion on the matter.
You can have yours...
ps...file doc with SEC last day of quarter...last minute(as I recall, but cant find on iHUB (and not going to waste my time looking for it) to technically comply, THEN put out first press release on the subject on December 4th...4 days after the quarter ended: http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=60255900
interesting point...Roger...
If there is money...no doubt big tobacco WILL be there and little guys will be squeezed...and your point is well taken...as MJ becomes "acceptable" conduct...Tobacco will have a resurgence perhaps in Combo with Tobacco
That is why I like XXII...will be in both and in a healthier way.
I first learned of DSNY via MicroCapClub over 2 years ago and invested. Upon learning that HTFBS was covering it I subscribed to get a greater in depth understanding of the technology, as well as other opportunities. Best investment ever made in terms of tool for DD on individual stocks.
My network of 20 or so associated investors also invested some at that time and some later. Investments ranged from a few thousand shares to 200k shares. As with other investors, I also was impressed with the potential of the technology. But I always knew it was "potential" and its success would be based upon execution by the company (assuming it did have a secret sauce).
Besides my attending for my firm, a number of Investor Conferences (some of which Brooklyn attended, invested thereafter and was furious also with "perceived" misleading statements) and speaking to Steve (and I won't go into details)we assisted (uncompensated) the company on a several occasions with introducing it to and meeting with a couple of Private Equity firms (which I also attended). I also conversed via email with a few Seeking Alpha authors asking their thoughts and opinions on the tech and company. One has written several article first promoting, and now defending DSNY all the way down. (by the way...they subscribed to HTFBS after my introduction and prior to writing their first article and I assume spoke with the company, but much of the first article sounded like Van's newsletter summary).
You are right...I am now totally out of my 200k shares...selling the last at 1.40. I have no intentions of entering unless the SP reaches $3 pre-RS. Why? Because that would indicate confidence in management and carrying out its business plan within a reasonably acceptable time-frame. I suggested on this board that the price could easily dip to around .80 (200sma) and it did. Did I buy it for a trade...NO...not the least bit interested. First, I dont sit around daytrading my "investments", though I grant you some money could be made. But like VAN I have no intentions of being a slave to my screen and have a different model for investing which, like Van, is quite profitable.
Now why am I still on DSNY's board...
first, because some of my associates who can't or don't follow the boards and the company's progress or lack-thereof are still invested. Many of them subscribe to HTFBS, but don't follow the nuances, and as a result I pass on posting and keep them updated with personal email because above them making money, I am more concerned about them not losing money.
secondly, and in support of my first reason, I am interested in determining if this company really has the ability to execute and whether it can actually become disruptive with its technology. I have grown highly suspect of Steve's ability to execute and have not been able to determine if it is because of fundamental flaws in its technology, business plan or executive team and am determined to "stir the pot" here to find out the answer. Steve is not a dis-interested "third party" on who's opinion, I would consider or expect to objective.
third, I never tell anyone to buy or sell, I tell them what I am doing and why. Some of my associates, were even smart enough before me and sold earlier than me. They put it all together (being less attached and having less of a personal (time) investment in the company). Others sold while I did. Others held on stubbornly...probably because they did not want to take a few thousand dollar loss (which in one case is now $90,000...because IMHO...he made direct contact with Steve and became lulled into a false sense of security in "hearing it from the horses mouth").
The "nail in the coffin" for me was not HTFBS comments, nor the "big short", or any comments on this board or any other instrument of research...it was breach of credibility exhibited by the Company when after months had promised to "launch" clipstream and commence its sale to customers, as I re-call, before the end of the last quarter. On almost the last minute of the last hour of the last day of the quarter...they "announced" a "technical launch".
IMHO it was as though they were afraid of SH suit had they not "fulfilled" what they had clearly said was to occur "a launch before the end of the quarter". Even at that, it was more of a Beta version (IMHO...contrary to the impression it wanted to give), not a real revenue producer. It was the last time I was going to feel BS'ed to, as an investor, by the company. IMHO the company is a habitual "issue" with clarity of its deadlines and its progress (and perhaps the demand or breath of demand for its product). Answers to the question why such a problems with deadlines exists and clarity of demand is what IMHO every investor should be asking and getting answers to.
But the bottom line, with associates still in the game...I feel compelled to be involved. (Which only takes away from more productive activities for myself) Once they are all out...I am gone.
I have no interest in investing in DSNY unless there appears a compelling reason. To date, I have not seen it and question whether I will. I stay 100% invested in other stocks, and I do not intend to move money out of more compelling investments...even for an opportunistic trade. (leave it for you traders)
ps...my returns from their high, evaporated by 6 figures, but my return was still 6 figures...and would have been significantly less had I not kept my eyes and ears open to reality. But after re-investment those funds are back and exceed prior highs by a considerable sum. I wish I could say the same for some of my associates.
In the end any e-cig "solution" will be regulated and taxed as hard as traditional tobacco products...so no market advantage to PM...
In fact how long will it take for FDA to "study" this new product, while curtailing its marketing efforts. It is going to take FDA 4 years to study XXII VLN...not for whether it is VLN, but as to how it can be used in smoke cessation through use of various levels of VLN cigs.
IMHO..no threat...especially if XXII product is "out of the bag" and on the market...before 2015...first mover advantage. If smokers are satisfied with XXII's VLN and VLT cigs as a better health alternative...why would they switch to a "faux" cigarette doing the same thing?
It might be even prove to be an opportunity, since the more emphasis on "safer" cig products...the more XXII technology becomes compelling and is indirectly marketed by all the publicity and emphasis on moving toward the "safe" cig/tobacco products.
And Tommy is right...as soon as MSL acceptance is announced XXII is effectively on the block...when VLN/VLT designation is permitted by FDA, IMHO...XXII will be gobbled up by the most obvious suitor...BT
it happens to be true... funny how your age, decade measurement and numbers go...my older brother is NOT at "full retirement age" yet... he has lived in a 8 Decade Span of Time...40's 50's 60's 70's 80's 90's 00's 10's...sounds old aye?
trying to get answers...as I have said many times...IMHO..no sense in selling at this point...for many at a loss..including you. No one can tell me this was "all part of the plan"
lets hear the answers...and re-visit
Just waiting PATIENTLY for Van to point in the direction of a couple of new "Foundations" to build upon...can't say enough about his sage observations...
Its all about good "foundations"...
From DSNY Board...
"Brooklyn..actually I believe I am being quite balanced with DSNY...and basing my comments in "reality" not "mythological" muses...
Referring to "Big Stocks", is not "picking" a couple of stocks doing incredibly well in an overall bull market...and as I am sure you are keenly aware, the stocks discussed among four "big stock" boards have nothing to do with a the major indexes "bull market" and are totally unaffected by them.
And I agree with you...as I am sure Van does, and counsels his readership ..."building a business slowly from the bottom up is a time honored tradition"...
...but unfortunately, in DSNY's case, the "building" and the "one brick at a time" is being taken too literally and it seems to me that management thinks it must first dig a very deep trench to pour its footings so that it literally reaches the "bottom" ...before it commences the journey "up"...
...IMHO...DSNY needs to drive to the right "building site"...hire more "bricklayers" and hire the right foremen to "get r done"...
...still waiting for answers to speed of trans-coding in relation to competitive edge...or disadvantage.
...and beginning to believe that unless DSNY can "aggregate" all those "nickle and dime" savings by focusing on the big boys and the "dollars" they could save them...its going to be a slow and for SH a tortuously slow journey...(like PlayMPE)...
...and they will feel like they are in a scene from "Them Money Pit" below...while they see Skyscrapers being built around them...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ghnt_the-money-pit-trailer-1986_shortfilms "
yep Dane...forgot about the "milk and cig" combo...
Mother "quart of milk" (.25), Father "pack of cigs" (.24)and even gal of gas under .25 (.199 to .249)...always measured cost of milk by cost of a pack of cigs...
...milk, cigs and gas...always in lockstep
...just needed quarters...
Now..NYC quart of milk $3.00, cigs $15 and gas $4.00...so much harder for a kid these days to keep track...lol
please...(if you want to in that direction, which as I said is irrelevant with Micro-cap stocks)...and just how well has DSNY done?
...there is no need to lob the ball...
Brooklyn..actually I believe I am being quite balanced with DSNY...and basing my comments in "reality" not "mythological" muses...
Referring to "Big Stocks", is not "picking" a couple of stocks doing incredibly well in an overall bull market...and as I am sure you are keenly aware, the stocks discussed among four "big stock" boards have nothing to do with a the major indexes "bull market" and are totally unaffected by them.
And I agree with you...as I am sure Van does, and counsels his readership ..."building a business slowly from the bottom up is a time honored tradition"...
...but unfortunately, in DSNY's case, the "building" and the "one brick at a time" is being taken too literally and it seems to me that management thinks it must first dig a very deep trench to pour its footings so that it literally reaches the "bottom" ...before it commences the journey "up"...
...IMHO...DSNY needs to drive to the right "building site"...hire more "bricklayers" and hire the right foremen to "get r done"...
...still waiting for answers to speed of trans-coding in relation to competitive edge...or disadvantage.
...and beginning to believe that unless DSNY can "aggregate" all those "nickle and dime" savings by focusing on the big boys and the "dollars" they could save them...its going to be a slow and for SH a tortuously slow journey...(like PlayMPE)...
...and they will feel like they are in a scene from "Them Money Pit" below...while they see Skyscrapers being built around them...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ghnt_the-money-pit-trailer-1986_shortfilms
Blue Sky...for new Marijuana play...
XXII...the New "Safe" Medical Marijuana solution. Rocket just taking off.
Marijuana has 3x as much Carcinogens as Smoking Tobacco. With FDA getting even tougher on Tars(carcinogens) and nicotine in regular tobacco...
How long will it take for the FDA to wake up to a more deadly product that is inhaled deeper into the lungs and exacerbates the problem of cigarette smokers who also use marijuana.
XXII is a biotech company with over 135 national and international patents that specializes in engineering tobacco plant seeds to grow VLN and VLT (very low tars) tobacco leaves/cigarettes. They appear to now be using their technology to engineer VLT Marijuana plant seeds for the Medical Marijuana industry.
They have British Tobacco as their partner (with a $14 million dollar commitment, half paid)just to "research" their tobacco technology. They are about to launch a premium cigarette in U.S., and have already launched in E.U (VLN)
Having just purchased a $3.2M cigarette plant in NC (all cash) and having the FDA finance a phase II study on their VLN an VLT cigarettes to promulgate rules on advertising VLN and VLT...as well as Pfizer doing its own study with XXII's proprietary cigarettes, in conjunction with smoke cessation...this company is about to DISRUPT the $700 Billion dollar Tobacco industry and is on the launch pad.
Now, it is apparent that word is leaking out and IMHO, will soon be announced about their working on marijuana engineering for a "safer" marijuana plant. Stock is about to be uplisted to NYSE or Nasdaq anyday (per press releases and 10K)...and as soon as next week.
The additional Marijuana play is not to be overlooked, and apparently it is not.
Having almost doubled to $4.21 at weeks end, with no debt and over $4M in cash about to uplist, and a relatively small issuance and float (53M/35M), IMHO it will be ripe for institutional purchasing upon Uplisting and a move to $5...at which point it can also be (and might be required to be) purchased by the index fund, resulting in further upside to its $200M market cap. IMHO...its a $20 stock in 6 months (if not sooner) and multiples of that upon further execution of its business plan.
Peterman...you must be related to President Tyler...interesting story...I received from a former classmate.
President John Tyler's Grandsons Are Still Alive...
John Tyler was born in 1790. He took office in 1841, after William Henry Harrison died. And he has two living grandchildren."
http://mentalfloss.com/article/29842/president-john-tylers-grandsons-are-still-alive
"This is a hell of a story of President Tyler, our 10th President, born in 1790- I met one of his grandsons many years ago and was stunned-- apparently they are still alive and kicking. His son was born late in life and the son sired two sons in his late 70's. President Tyler is known for three things-- one for siding with the south in the Civil War 2) getting a trophy wife Julia, ( from Long Island of Gardiner Island fame) producing 13 + kids, and 3) probably the genetic source that was the basis for discovering Viagra."
and flipping baseball cards...and all your friend names you could recognize as real names and they ALL ended in "y" (or ie)...Johnny, Joey, Mikey, Danny, Richie, Bobby, Terry, Jimmy, Davy, Pauly, Robbie, Denny, Tony, Larry...ok there was a Karl.
Actually...IMHO...if you are consider DSNY reaching "big stock" status, clipstream will have to satisfy a large enough market where it is costing and saving to the trans-coding (host) "big dollars" and therefore potentially generating big revenue dollars for DSNY...
Those users would have to be Google because of Youtube, Amazon because it is hosting Netflix and any other Large Hosters of vast video content who are providers of trans-coding for their customer base as part of their service. The totals must represent big dollar savings in bandwidth, efficiency (cross platform) to the hosting company. DSNY is a "savings" play for them...not necessarily a revenue generator to them. There are some aspects where Ad space providers could generate additional revenue from showing greater reach of ads...but IMHO the incremental revenue generation to DSNY will be relatively small (from Big Stock perspective).
IMHO...DSNY will be playing in the sandbox with these small incremental ads and web provider on "one-offs". As Brooklyn's friend involved with Ad space for AT&T said...trans-coding costs are relative pennies, so why bother worrying about or considering changing?
It seems that DSNY is heading down the "nickle and dime" revenue path with Clipstream marketing rather than going after the real money...Goog, Amzn and anyone hosting and trans-coding huge Video content...
Not that it wont make money on it...but will it justify "big stock" status if revenues come like PlayMPE in small chips over a period of time...rather than a Big Player acquiring the tech to save real dollars.
Blue Sky...for new Marijuana play...
XXII...the New "Safe" Medical Marijuana solution. Rocket just taking off.
Marijuana has 3x as much Carcinogens as Smoking Tobacco. With FDA getting even tougher on Tars(carcinogens) and nicotine in regular tobacco...
How long will it take for the FDA to wake up to a more deadly product that is inhaled deeper into the lungs and exacerbates the problem of cigarette smokers who also use marijuana.
XXII is a biotech company with over 135 national and international patents that specializes in engineering tobacco plant seeds to grow VLN and VLT (very low tars) tobacco leaves/cigarettes. They appear to now be using their technology to engineer VLT Marijuana plant seeds for the Medical Marijuana industry.
They have British Tobacco as their partner (with a $14 million dollar commitment, half paid)just to "research" their tobacco technology. They are about to launch a premium cigarette in U.S., and have already launched in E.U (VLN)
Having just purchased a $3.2M cigarette plant in NC (all cash) and having the FDA finance a phase II study on their VLN an VLT cigarettes to promulgate rules on advertising VLN and VLT...as well as Pfizer doing its own study with XXII's proprietary cigarettes, in conjunction with smoke cessation...this company is about to DISRUPT the $700 Billion dollar Tobacco industry and is on the launch pad.
Now, it is apparent that word is leaking out and IMHO, will soon be announced about their working on marijuana engineering for a "safer" marijuana plant. Stock is about to be uplisted to NYSE or Nasdaq anyday (per press releases and 10K)...and as soon as next week.
The additional Marijuana play is not to be overlooked, and apparently it is not.
Having almost doubled to $4.21 at weeks end, with no debt and over $4M in cash about to uplist, and a relatively small issuance and float (53M/35M), IMHO it will be ripe for institutional purchasing upon Uplisting and a move to $5...at which point it can also be (and might be required to be) purchased by the index fund, resulting in further upside to its $200M market cap. IMHO...its a $20 stock in 6 months (if not sooner) and multiples of that upon further execution of its business plan.
It doesn't sound like a "cost-savings" issue, but might be more of a Functional issue...can it reach more with certainty and be verified...which goes to quality of reach...for same dollars...which then computes to effect "cost savings" ... more bang for the same buck?
Very much a Hoot Dane...with marijuana containing 3x as much carcinogens and inhaled deeply in the lungs...law makers are rejoicing ... in passing laws to legalize and increase it use...
No way to logically reconcile it.
Which goes to show you, Progressive Dems... "anything" for vote...rather disgusting...
Worked fine on my iPhone 4s...but I have one question...how does the Trans-coding time, stack up against current trans-coding solutions?
It takes 10x the amount of run time of the video to trans-code it in clipstream. How long does it take for current trans-coders. A 1.5 minute clip takes 15 minutes to trans-code in clipstream. Should not be an issue. BUT, a full length movie ...1.5 hours ...would take 15 hours to trans-code.
How many years would it take to trans-code netflix library? Is there a way to speed it up or is it acceptable in relation to the competition?
Seems like a impediment to retail adoption...Will a Web developer have to trans-code clips or does DSNY do it for them and what is the turn around?
Regarding Pop from WSD...good thing...but that was a technical call off the 50 sma...and you are talking about "traders" buying in for the "trade"...the question is when will they exit and how will that impact stock performance...Are they holding for RS?...doubt it.
EasyRider...you must of left the room again....LOL..do it again...
and we havent even seen the M crowd yet...believe there will be an indication of work being done in that area...
True ... there are NO GAPS to fill...will help keep steady move up.
Yes...requires discipline not to take some off the table...but easier not to when you realize ...the up-listing news is not even out and new investors have not even arrived.
(Personally, not in my strategy to sell, but rather wait for nasdaq and buy more on conservative margin for the kicker)
agree...management will wait for Monday...with fresh "buzz" from the weekend.
No Pinkie...my brother's name is "Rich" but you will be more "wealthier" then you were...