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That is correct TC only exercised his required filling, should he want to exercise his options in the event the share price is above the issue price as stated on the form that is required to be filled out as indicated, when the options were offered.
Many mistakenly believe the form to be the actual exercise of those options. The required form notifies the public not of TC’s intent, but his rights to those shares as stated with the current expiration when they were offered.
He can purchase those shares now if he wants to at the issue price and sell them for a loss right now or hold them for a gain should the SP exceed the issue price or he can as he is doing now, securing the rights to those shares in the event the share price rises above the issue price for any reason. For example: LQMT is sold or LQMT inks a contract for revenue. Or somehow the www is successful at pumping up the share price.
Good luck to you.
Thank you, I have concluded that LL did not buy the company to destroy it. After all what was there to destroy? I believe he needed to acquire the IP and material improvements along with brand recognition to incorporate and prosper in China first. Of course controlling competition helps in those endeavors. From the unverified data abroad I cannot determine how successful LL is.
If he is successful then I conclude LQMT will also be successful. Of course no one can know for certain how the political frictions play out. As for now they do not help a company who solely depends on manufacturing from a source whose governments seem to be always muddying up the waters.
In the filed data it’s obvious that LQMT depends on the health of China. Even on its website as well. LL may be everything everyone is complaining about, but one thing he is not. He is not ignorant and he is very intelligent.
Good luck to you.
Stay well.
It’s been that way since LL closed down domestic manufacturing. Anytime before the rental, LQMT could have expanded their equipment and manufacturing capacity and could have expanded production. That is what BB was trying to do but didn’t have all of the facts in place when they first opened up the new OH.
I believe his miscalculations led to the shutdown, partnership and transfer of manufacturing.
It doesn’t make a difference at what address personnel are working from or idling from.
You don’t need the lights to be on in LF CA., where no manufacturing is done and when manufacturing is done in China. LQMT is a contract company according to LQMT. So all LQMT needs is call forwarding to pick up a mobile phone or record a message anywhere in the world.
From looking around at all of the manufacturers and those delving into amorphous metal using traditional methods of producing parts it appears that no one realized that the metal was and is not cost effective unless it is either used for a very high priced selling product or a high volume product. Thus a product like an expensive watch, which is not high volume finds a home. The other conundrum was LQMT always lacked the funds and venture capital to produce and create a process to produce high volume parts.
In essence the blind or ignorant were leading the blind and ignorant investors since ipo imo. In hindsight we can all see this. Even the ceo of Engel stated he did not realize how difficult it was to manufacture and sell amorphous metals until after Engel had contracted with LQMT. They admitted their ignorance as well. Ditto for Materion which had the $$$ to do it but chose not to. The material requires a lot of upfront millions and brains to try to cost effectively compete with other less costlier materials. Then to there are certain limitations in the medical field due to law suits. Yes there are millions of places in the medical field where a spring a gear an instrument is better suited for LQMT amorphous metal. But it has to make a huge difference for companies to increase cost. Those instruments require high volume orders.
I think we all realize the small contracts do not make a company by now. I think LL realizes it too. However, due to government subsidies in China LL has been afforded a process and a way to produce this metal at higher volumes. Thus giving China an edge in competition. It’s not about fairness. It’s how whales are built. It happens in the USA too. With the oil industry the railroad industry the auto and telecommunications industry. It’s why the government here went after AT&T back in the 80’s to break the company up. China is not interested in fair competition or unfair competition. They want to be number 1 in everything.
Now if the last paragraph is true, it makes it much more difficult for other companies outside of China to compete once China’s home grown companies compete in China and outside of China.
Thus either other whales who want to compete with China have no other recourse then to either duplicate what China has done (if they are ambitious) or they, whoever they are will be beholden to China’s way of one manufacturing source regardless of how many manufacturers there are in China making amorphous metal parts.
I don’t know of any other high volume high capacity manufacturers that can compete with China’s amorphous metal manufacturers. Perhaps 3D printing might. But the structural integrity is not the same from what I read. Maybe that is not the case today. Perhaps 3D printing has improved.
The military here too does not care about costs and sometimes contracts are awarded imo due to corruption not fairness imo.
If my opinions are half correct it is why we see very little revenue growth in LQMT and a declining share price. It is also why we might see a one off contract that can also put LQMT on the map.
Has anyone invested in LQMT given any thought to my previous post on ihub here? I can see there was some serious thoughts about it elsewhere.
For now or just to humor me, let’s forget about whether LQMT is going to a dollar now or to a penny or out of business right now or to the moon. For neither is going to happen right now. For example: what business is LQMT in that they are going to go out of business from?
That said, they have some cash and little assets and are definitely from the little I understand not dependent on the minuscule reported revenues to continue with their market endeavors.
So rather than focusing on who said what. Let’s try if it is at all possible to focus on LQMT.
There was significance in what I was trying to point out. It was solely based on what LQMT put out and not from a second or third party source.
Meaning it’s verifiable. More than that, it is still possible.
Now if any of this makes sense keep in mind there is more to it than just verifying LQMT’s/LL’s manufacturing capacities. Sometimes that can be answered by the number of incorporated amorphous metal products recorded as sold by whales ordering from LL’s associated manufacturing companies abroad.
The other important factor is can another whale outside of China have their products made by another amorphous metal manufacturer outside of China?
If I have to explain why that is very important, than all not interested in LQMT can return to; is LQMT going to a penny or a dollar conversation.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Do you remember reading this???…
“Work continues, especially in China, to expand the availability of materials, molding machines and manufacturing operations in anticipation of rapidly growing demand.”
Source LQMT
Or this???…
“The nature of our technology fits best with high performance, high volume applications, which are extremely competitive. The upside is tremendous: a single project can make a company. Liquidmetal’s market potential is large within our target markets.”
Source LQMT.
Although things do look bleak, in fact very bleak right now. It is no indication of what LQMT will look like tomorrow should their own forward worded opinions come to fruition. Have they completed their expansion of manufacturing capacity abroad??? Has anyone with theories who search the www, verified it???
It realistically appears from looking at the factual data of LQMT’s revenues that if the share price is ever going to get out of the crapper. It will do so with a one off contract. Not ever on continuous, insignificant and minuscule wash and repeat cycle contracts.
All now who hold, wait patiently for LL to pull the rabbit out of the hat once again.
While the facts point to a more dismal future for LQMT. The forward worded ones of LQMT point to a successful conclusion. It is the LQMT spin that has helped keep FOMO alive and not the theories of nonsense by those searching for a crumb lines across the www., to soothe the hunger for success.
I did not invest in LQMT to settle for the crumbs to soothe my hunger for LQMT’s success. I invested in LQMT to succeed and settle for the beef to feed my hunger.
It’s not greed. It’s a dice roll. Just watch your hands and let the dice roll.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish LL luck.
Hope you feel better as for the rest of your message, I’m sure you have plenty of company on all of your points of view.
Wishing you well.
I think the IMO was omitted in error.
Another week passes and the LQMT share price dropped 12.48% from 0.0549 cents to 0.04805 cents on extremely weak trading volumes and little interest. The same when LQMT moves up or down. LQMT still is trading in the .04’s as predicted a long time ago, based on the long term trends of LQMT’s failures to change their fundamentals. Again this board nailed it and read the fundamentals of LQMT correctly.
Looks like BB may have nailed it correctly too, in his forward worded commentary, alluding to the fact that LQMT’s success could be a one off.
If you are bullish, LQMT is cheap at any price under a dime. If you are bearish LQMT is too expensive at any price right now.
Looks like anyone pumping or hyping LQMT’s possibilities got caught with empty pockets. Where as LQMT over the years would trade with higher volumes at higher prices. It now trades less with lower prices. One would think either the deep pockets of those pumping and hyping exist no more or the conviction too has truthfully evaporated.
Can the share price go lower? Only if the volumes remain anemic, which they are and TC & Co. Releases no updates on progress or a contract with a new customer or old one.
But always remember the share price means bubkis without trading volumes in the millions of shares daily.
To iterate; Without new sales contracts of any size or an announcement of any progress from LQMT, either on their executive blog or in a PR, the trend is for LQMT’s share price to continue to head lower as the fundamentals remain unchanged and reported revenues decline.
The following was an accurate prediction. Except LQMT dipped below 0.045 and hit my LQMT valuation price.
“The share price can drop between 0.045 and 0.049 as the value of LQMT is heading south and not north.”
Perhaps in 2024 or 2025 or 2026 LQMT might succeed and if they ever do make it in 2023, I’ll be very thankful and glad that they did.
FOMO lives and is probably is the main reason why anyone holds on regardless of any other opinion at this time.
This board had/has it right the whole time. Who knew? I just try to post the facts. After all, everyone knows my opinions are worth less than the price of a share of LQMT. I think I nailed it, when LL virtually closed the doors on the new LQMT HQ’s.
Two questions remain unanswered:
Q1. Still would like to know where that extra $5,000.00 dollars came from? As stated in 10Q2?
Q2. How come LL over in China has no problems getting amorphous metal prototypes accepted by whales abroad but LQMT USA, has had zero whales accepting LQMT’s prototypes here in the USA?
I try to present a balanced view based on the facts not on the emotions of anyone hyping or bashing LQMT.
LQMT can go to the moon or stay in the crapper. Both views are correct. It’s just that right now for LQMT the moon seems like the size of a distant star, while the crapper seems to be as big as a garbage dump waste site.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
The longer it takes to serve up the beef, the cheaper the LQMT shares become. It’s only a surprise to those with their heads in the sand.
But remember, with anemic trading volumes it means bubkis.
With all of the shares from a flim flam artist of whatever shares. It would still be anemic trading and the SP would still be worth bubkis. Without revenue growth and not just share volume uptick growth, the stock is still worth bubkis.
No more trade shows??? They must have been a huge success.
DM, let’s not get too lazy…
No more trade shows could be construed as a tell.
And those consignment personnel are they necessary? This too can be construed as another tell.
Outside owners are highly intelligent regardless of all the secrecy and sometimes awkward posts of theories.
Is the beef you are serving fresh or frozen? Are the salads and veggies fresh or frozen?
All outsiders want to eat well
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
The only loose ends that LQMT can’t hide are those unearned salaries and options of those very very hard working executives.
Oh, least everyone forgets and I don’t see how. Those decreasing share values.
As far as secrecy, there are no loose ends there. Not one.
And now more old news that looks new to some who just don’t know what it’s all about…..
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1141240/000089706923001251/xslF345X05/form4.xml
So to break it down. It just means in the event of some miracle TC has a right to the options as stated expiring 07/06/2031.
Read the fine print if you need help….
“1. The shares covered by the Option vested one-third at the conclusion of the 90-day period following the date of the grant. Thereafter, the shares covered by the Option vested one-third on the first anniversary of the date of grant and the remaining one-third on the second anniversary of the date of grant. Form 4 for option grant was inadvertently not timely filed, but grant was reported on Form 8-K filed by issuer on July 9, 2021.”
That TC, he’s always thinking about us.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Well, one thing is for sure. The wasted BS LQMT wave cycle of Apple hype in the fall cycle is gone.
Now that’s a relief.
Nothing like great finds. :(
Sounds familiar? Not another one!…
https://medicine.yale.edu/news/yale-medicine-magazine/article/scratching-the-surface-metallic-glass-implants/
https://www.sbir.gov/sbc/supercool-metals-llc
https://www.supercoolmetals.com/
Just another pie in the face.
Thank you LQMT & the executives who run it.
Or do they?
Hmmm?
Just where the heck is TC & Co.?
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Where the heck was he, when the government recently started to hand out millions again?
Well guess who got the handouts?
Supercool Metals LLC. That’s who.
Not to agree or disagree. Seems????
We need a few green giants.
Don’t hold me to it, but I hear some deep pockets are glancing the dice roll over. As a crap shoot and not anything else.
The BMG industry has legs. It can take awhile or a year or two.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
I believe At one point in time the two were linked together via LL. But nothing came out of it. It was around the same time LQMT was exploring Zyris.
LQMT not talking about golf clubs anymore. But it’s not over yet. All depends on global acceptance. Japan is in the driver’s seat.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Was it another scam?
Significantly Regulated Organizations Added in February 2017
https://www.fda.gov/media/102832/download
… 045545589 Lancer Orthodontics, Inc. USA LANZ 153732961 Liquidmetal Technologies, Inc. USA LQMT 079854484 …
http://lancerortho.com/products.php
Another week passes and the LQMT share price is flat from 0.055 cents to 0.0549 cents, but not before exceeding a new all time record low trading share price on extremely weak trading volumes and little interest. The same when LQMT moves up or down. LQMT traded in the .04’s as predicted a long time ago. Again this board nailed it and read the fundamentals of LQMT correctly.
If you are bullish, LQMT is cheap at any price under a dime. If you are bearish LQMT is too expensive at any price right now.
Can the share price go lower? Only if the volumes remain anemic, which they are and TC & Co. Releases no updates on progress or a contract with a new customer or old one.
But always remember the share price means bubkis without trading volumes in the millions of shares daily.
To iterate; Without new sales contracts of any size or an announcement of any progress from LQMT, either on their executive blog or in a PR, the trend is for LQMT’s share price to continue to head lower as the fundamentals remain unchanged and reported revenues decline.
The following was an accurate prediction. Except LQMT dipped below 0.045 and hit my LQMT valuation price.
“The share price can drop between 0.045 and 0.049 as the value of LQMT is heading south and not north.”
Perhaps in 2024 or 2025 or 2026 LQMT might succeed and if they ever do make it in 2023, I’ll be very thankful and glad that they did.
FOMO lives and is probably is the main reason why anyone holds on regardless of any other opinion at this time.
With honey you attract the bees.
With dung you attract the flies.
Looking around the www only flies were bouncing off the dung and not bees off the honey LQMT served up this passed week. As they have been doing for many many months now.
This board had/has it right the whole time. Who knew? I just try to post the facts. After all, everyone knows my opinions are worth less than the price of a share of LQMT. I think I nailed it, when LL virtually closed the doors on the new LQMT HQ’s.
Two questions remain unanswered:
Q1. Still would like to know where that extra $5,000.00 dollars came from? As stated in 10Q2?
Q2. How come LL over in China has no problems getting amorphous metal prototypes accepted by whales abroad but LQMT USA, has had zero whales and only acceptance by customers in the last decade amounting to insignificant contracts.?
I try to present a balanced view based on the facts not on the emotions of anyone hyping or bashing LQMT.
LQMT can go to the moon or stay in the crapper. Both views are correct. It’s just that right now for LQMT the moon seems like the size of a distant star, while the crapper seems to be as big as a garbage dump waste site.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Yes and that is a very very low ratio. I don’t know how many companies trade in this range.
There is no right price with the revenues LQMT has been reporting for anyone optimistic or bullish. Any price under a dime is definitely cheap. Even if one were bearish, buying LQMT under a dime is cheap.
The right price for anyone hesitant makes sense in hindsight.
If you have been reading my posts then you already know I have been riding the waves of the wash rinse and repeat cycles and often suggested others look into it as well. A term often used by Eagle and later on by me.
May add? And you are bullish??? Hmmm?
Over 2 decades.
Good point for all the wrong reasons.
I don’t think it stinks or is boring. I think it’s the opportunity of a lifetime and from when I bought in, it’s been a lifetime and that’s no BS.
Maybe they reached their target price.
It doesn’t take 60 trades of dribble to dump a large position.
The flood gates have not opened yet. Not too many have large positions. Those who do obviously have not sold. In essence I don’t understand what you are stating. But that’s a short trip for me, since I don’t know much and understand even less.
The buyers are the MM’s for the sellers. The question that cannot be easily figured out at least with my small pea brain are who are the sellers?
Now if it were December the answer would be easy. Unless of course someone wants to take a tax loss to offset short term gains elsewhere and is betting that LQMT is logically going nowhere or it’s ok to buy back in, in a flash at a nickel or two more should by some miracle LQMT releases a PR more worthy than a wash rinse and repeat cycle.
LQMT has no reason to go higher as volumes and interest are still anemic. As noted in my weekly posts, LQMT goes up and down on no news and little volume. The markets have zero impact on LQMT.
The other realistic reason that a long term would sell at this point is they have given up due to emotional decisions. Otherwise they would have intelligently sold a long time ago at a much higher price.
Fundamentals have not changed. There is no difference today than five years ago. What has changed is the realization of those who expected or hoped for more but got less and the share price finally caught up too with that reality.
Today’s low hit my valuation price for LQMT.042.
See my last post before this one.
Unfortunately It is a sad day for all in LQMT.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Reality of the 0.04’s is a reflection on the LQMT executive’s performance never on outsiders opinions.
I only try to assess the reality of their performance in an unbiased way before that reality sinks in to all outsiders in LQMT.
As always, everyone knows I don’t know much and my opinions are always worth less than the price of a LQMT share.
Based on my accuracy, which was not perfect, my thoughts were LQMT could have hit the four’s in June or July. It took me just a wee bit longer to figure out the only support was the MM’s trying to earn a few bucks on a stock that barely trades.
I’m surprised. Even they, even if it were possible, can not find anything to hype on or pump to widen the spread or increase volume.
If a buyer is not interested there are no .06’s or .07’s etc. so newbies see no potential. Thus the bids get lower. No longer based on any new revenue potential or hype or company spin.
Now if there is potential then heck, the .07’s are cheap. But price is no longer based on supply and demand. Without PR updates or contacts the share price is based on the MM’s. They will make money even when the price drops below the .03’s too.
LL was not kidding, when he said patience!!!
I’m sure the pandemic and political fallout as well as supply chain problems and inflation continue to impact on the progress/time table that LL might have had for LQMT.
One thing is for sure. Based on zero news about any progress, if there were ever a nda involved. LQMT would never lose the contract based on any leak from them.
.04’s? It’s getting close. Real close. There is no economic support factually from LQMT right now to prevent the four’s or the three’s other than the valuation of the company, which to me is about 0.042 and dropping.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Yes they can sell the property and what tax consequences will that have? Can they put all of the dollars from the cash from a property sale back into cash investment assets? I agree if you are not going to use that type of property again to earn revenues from manufacturing and selling and research. Then sell the building and subdivide an executive home where one room can be used to do office work.
Your points are well taken. Why put shareholders at risk of further loss due to possible circumstances that are more probable then others.
To anyone who would like to see a dividend from LQMT. It cannot and should not ever come from their non earning revenue assets. But should always come from their positive earnings from revenue sales of parts ordered.
And always remember that a dividend depreciates the share price penny for penny and since there are no revenues to offset the share price depreciation all of the shares and the total worth of your LQMT investment would be equally worth less as well.
LQMT needs to have more revenues to pay out a dividend not more cash burn.
What shareholders believe for or against LQMT should know by now that all of the opinions have nothing to do with the reality of what LQMT is actually doing or has done.
All can call it a scam or the greatest opportunity of a lifetime and both opinions are absolutely correct. Just keep in mind those opinions of opposing views still equal the same share price of today. They neither lessen or enhance the value of LQMT. They are either based on the disappointment of facts or opinions of what LQMT has accomplished historically and what they believe the future will hold.
I have stated this before. Those who are bearish are supported by LQMT’s historical to present day facts based on LQMT’s filed quarterly reports. Those who are bullish have not stated any hard tangible evidence of any impending success. There are plenty of forward worded statements from LQMT and plenty of theories derived from them and from what is going on around the globe in amorphous metal sales claims.
There is a common thread to both views. That common thread lie within the bottom line of each 10q.
When and if ever LQMT succeeds or when and if ever LQMT is no more, all views all opinions will be worth the same. There can never be happiness in failure and neither can a bullish view claim success.
IMHO, all in LQMT wait pissed off.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
IMO, We don’t need a dividend we need a significant contract.
I don’t think a one cent dividend is going to make a difference no matter what is going on now.
And seeing what is going on as reported by LQMT on paper, it’s not much.
With less and less buying at these very low share prices there is very little if any support to hold the share price above the nickels. It appears that the only interest being generated to attract any share activity is the activity of lowering the ask price to generate bids to any dice roller.
It’s obvious that LQMT has not been generating any interest for 17 months now on the contract side and much longer on the revenue side.
Thus there really are not any actual support levels. Just MM’s spreads.
Just like a few years ago a few believed the share price would never break below a dime, nine cents, eight cents, seven cents, six cents, five cents etc. etc. it’s all good not to want the share price to drop. But realistically LQMT’s share price has been dropping for six years now. As long as it’s fundamentals go unchanged, the share price will continue to drop and as long as the MM’s are left with no other incentive other than to seek out buyers at lower prices with sellers selling at even lower prices for the MM’s to earn some sort of income.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Unfortunately it is a shame, but the .04’s appear as predicted awhile ago to be inevitable.