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By the way, I don't deserve a "R", just "r"-ratler.
Hag, Gold, Daisies, Dramos, Numbers, Fraiser and any others, are you in? Any thoughts?
Hey FTR,
What I was trying to get at was if LTHUQ shuts down and stops trading, they won't be listed on any forum. Basicly they will be locked tight. So, if we pick another stock board ahead of time as a point to gather, we will be able to find each other to discuss law suits, bankruptcy letters, and general BS as normal.
If LTHUQ shuts down, at what stock board are we all going to meet up on?
Gold, you had my heart racing a bit.
Dr. Klaus Brandt ?? Just a bit dated.
Please include dates with your posts.
5/3/2017 - Another 9,900% increase.
Keep it coming!
Looking forward to tomorrow. Go LTC.
Monday, Monday, so good to me
Monday mornin´, it was all I hoped it would be
Oh Monday mornin´, Monday mornin´ couldn´t guarantee
That Monday evenin´ you would still be here with me
Any suggestions of any other underdog stock that we can load up on and spend quarter century with? I would hate to let a little bankruptcy break up such a great fellowship/followship that we all have developed.
(Bush - Obama - Trump) Nothing can bust us up when we're all focused on a good piece of shit stock.
It's getting dark in here, where's the door?
4/27/2017 - 0.000001 Opera
So you're saying there's still a chance?
Tell-tail story is the one year trend.
Between the peaks and valleys we finished right where we started.
There does not seem to be a date to return again to court.
What do you make of that?
All of the other filing had dates set to return back into court.
GE & Edison are constructing hybrid peaking plants. They are using GE LM6000 Turbine Engines. They will be more flexible, use less water, be cheaper to run and take more power plant jobs away from the work force. Did I also say that they would be using batteries?
An article also talked about Elon Musk and Tesla wanting to build electric, big rig,18 wheelers. Mercedes already has been testing them.
http://www.power-eng.com/articles/2017/04/ge-southern-california-edison-reveal-world-s-first-battery-gas-turbine-hybrid.html
Gold, April 14th, has come and gone.
Do we have another scheduled court date?
Is there anything new that we can learn from what was discussed?
Enquiring minds want to know.
This has become such a soap opera.
Who's buying?
Bloomberg closed at 900.00%
That settles that. Can't trust IHUB.
Closed at 0.0010 or 9 900.00%. 4/18/2027
Is this the begining of a heartbeat?
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April 18th, 2017. Yahoo states a move of only 900.00%. Yet IHub claims that this is a move of 9,900.00%. Which is right? Keep it coming and I'll sell at $2.00 per share!
Then again, I save pennies in a pickle jar.
I could be the one who becomes richer.
1plus1 is a ghost. You see it, but there is no substance.
That's all I've got for this company now.
At one time I had such high hopes.
Hey, 1+ 1, is this another buying moment?
Now a disposition is due April 14, 2017.
What, is the judge now just extending it to gain another pay check. Sit em down until they finish this thing.
Why does everything settle with today's politics of nothing getting done?
Getter Done, Damn It!
Today, March 31, 2017. - Anything new coming out of the bankruptcy court today?
What is the next scheduled court date?
What are we waiting for? Let's dance!
Which is it Ecosafe Innotech or Wataire Industries? Or Wataire Ecosafe Technologies Inc.?
I'd sell. - For a dollar a share.
March 30, 2017 - Still holding stock. - Why no bankruptcy? - What are you waiting for? - Who is paying to keep the lights on?
Run! - Don't Walk. - Run Away From This POS.
I did not know that Clariant sold their lithium division to Johnson Matthey Battery Systems in 2014.
They just happen to be making 12v starter batteries too.
They work with Jaguar.
http://www.jmbatterysystems.com/custom-batteries/automotive/case-study-12v-lithium-starter-battery
One step forward, three steps back.
To LTC: "Die - Damn You - Die"
This stock only strung me out for ten years and ten thousand dollars.
But look at all of the good people that kept me company. PRICELESS !
Cost did not come down soon enough though.
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PROTERRA ELECTRIC BUS. IMAGE SOURCE: PROTERRA.
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Side view of a Proterra bus, which looks very similar to a traditional city bus.
IMAGE SOURCE: PROTERRA.
Purchase prices are plunging for electric buses
The cost of an electric bus is still about $750,000, which is well over the $450,000 or so that it costs to buy a diesel bus. But when you look at the savings described above, the overall cost case can already be made for switching to electric. And more progress on that front is coming.
Batteries account for a huge percentage of the cost of electric buses, so the industry will be able to ride the cost curve down along with automakers. Battery costs are held close to the vest, but McKinsey & Company has said battery costs for EVs fell from $1,000/kWh in 2010 to $227/kWh in 2016. At that price, a 660 kWh battery pack would cost $149,820. But some analysts project that costs will fall below $100 per kWh by 2030, and many industry experts expect them to drop even faster. At that point, that 660 kWh battery pack would cost $66,000 -- still a sizable chunk of money, but creating conditions under which the overall cost of an EV bus could be lower than a fossil-fuel model.
The transition in this segment is progressing quickly. On the Energy Gang Podcast, Proterra CEO Ryan Popple predicted that by 2020, one-third of new buses in the U.S. will be EVs, and by 2030, 100% will be electric. And a lot of the capability needed to make that change is being built in-house, given the fact that Proterra designs and manufactures its own battery packs, just like Tesla does. The sea change in industry trajectory and the supply chain has ramifications for everyone from battery makers to competitors in the bus market.
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Gold, I think that I saw on your last post of bankruptcy dates that there is another court date set for 3/31/2017.
March 17th. Another false alarm!
I'm ready for a little Luck of the Irish!
Make this thing pop.
On my Yahoo Finance page I still have VRDT posted.
Last Trade. = October 19th.
Last Price. = 0.46
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I'm interested too. Where do you see this "POS", (quoting Gold), going?