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Im curious as to why they are trying to scare off investors? how would that benefit them? Im sure there is always a money angle involved, but how so with these articles? Couldnt they invest in buying a sh#t load of shares, then start pumping the stock upward, so they could sell at a higher price from where they bought in?
from how the call went, and from the statements on this board concerning with and analyzing the details of that call, realistically its about as good as we could have hoped for at this point. Also looks like the beginnings of a much brighter horizon for all involved with ariad in the coming months.
i will say that if 113 is more than 4 years out from approval, i do think that harvey being at his age, will be enticed to sell out the company in some fashion, in the not to distant future. even lucas sold his legacy to a more profitable company.
Im not to familiar as to what stage the science is with 113. I was hoping that a possible fda approval for the drug would be about 4 years out, and not much longer.
can you explain how so?
the reason i ask, seems as if the gradual run up on share price for pona started about four years ago. I would think that if 113 is in around the same stage as pona was 4 years ago, i would assume the stock price should start to make a gradual ascend in value based on 113. as of late, everything about the share price is rotating around iclusig, causing a pretty consistent flat line since approval. how much longer before 113 gets that gradual uptick recognition?
does anyone have an idea?
could someone tell me in comparison, as to where 113 is now in development, to the year pona was at, during the same stage?
so true...I only hope that distinction comes soon!
over 4% down so far?!?!? Did another product get approved?
feel bad for us as well. are we not also losing money from the close yesterday?
at this point, wish there were some legit buyout speculation, to break out of this tight range we've been in for the last two months.
I was under the impression that any buy out offers or partnerships towards ariad, would have to be presented to its shareholders, even if they were turned down?
pona has been approved. speculations dont cut it anymore. results, both financially and definitely will move the price. Part of owning stock with product in the market.
no, but if the full potential isn't for another 10 years, then i could be...relax lax.
What you say is understandable and makes sense. Its just that patience can wear thin when we're talking maybe 15+ years of holding the stock for some of us, till ariad reaches its potential...Yeesh. hope its doesn't take that long. i bet neither would HB.
good luck with that...anyhow, talk about flat lining today
i think around that time will be the most telling in ariads future. How much would we need? where would we be with iclusig, both in revenue and status. Thats when I think the decision of continuing to go it alone, or with a big pharma, will come to fruition.
cant see as to why dr berger would intentionally want the stock to get hammered when he owns so much of it. but why the uncertainty to the offering? he knows better
with the amount of shares offered still pending, should this offering in essence, put to rest any future offerings with iclusig now in the market to generate future revenue?
Hey i'm frustrated as well. But now that i have been in a biotech company that has had its first approval, i'm getting it. The company has been in a range since approval because thats what its worth at the moment. Not what it can be worth someday. Doesn't matter what doctors are saying about the potential of the drugs or the silliness of the black box warning, the company is in the now moment. Sure there are suspicious activities and manipulations that take place with the price swings, but thats always going to be the case when theres money involved. Everyone wants to make a quick buck and select few know how. Unfortunately for longs, that can get boring and frustrating until and if ever, their particular price is realized.
lately the price movements have had notable swings. here is hoping this latest swing up today holds and doesn't relinquish its gains by tomorrow or the next day.
Yes, but its a large space
Did u guys see the pics i posted of the new ariad sight in my last post? What do you think.
Was on binney street in Cambridge the other day. Took some pictures of what could be the future sight of Ariad. Check them out!...Enjoy
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Looking back at the charts, it seems that a gradual uptick for this company started in january 09, after bottoming out. I assume the upward trend that started 4 years ago, was due to ponatinib coming to fruition, right up to approval last month. All other future variables aside, I was wandering if a similar gradual upward pattern in price will start solely based on 113. And if so when?
Good post and although i dont understand all the technicals involved, the pattern did show that the price would be down today even with the conference call and all.
Im just saying its not normal for the stock to be behaving in this fashion. Especially the way the co. Growing....relax lax
Today could be the 10th out of 11 trading days down. This is different than the overall market. Just cant really see why.
for all the sentiment around this board lately about manipulation of the stock, so the big boys can buy in at cheaper prices (in which I don't totally disagree with), would it not be true, that the powers to be, eventually have to manipulate the price higher, in order to make their purchase profitable?
So if thats the case, all the emphases directed towards black box warnings and down grades in stock price lately, will have to be rectified in the not so distant future.
Or maybe they know that the price can only be manipulated for so long, until the science catches up with the masses. So manipulating the price downward, would be the only effort they have to put in.
This is really me. There are times to be silly with this board (as the board tends to get silly at times). And there are times to be serious. And if the recent stock price and futures of this company are any indication, its time to be serious.
"company has an fda approved drug"...
"ariads stock price seems to reflect what the company is actually worth at this moment"...
"With greater potential on the horizon...On the horizon, not yet"
..Understand what i wrote?
unfortunately, ariads stock price seems to reflect what the company is actually worth at this moment. Say what you will about analysts, but they do not lower price predictions to be wrong in the short term. Unless unforeseen forces shakes this companies foundation, there doesn't seem to be any significant boost in stock price in the near future. Sucks if your a long, because who knows how much longer we wait, before a fire cracker is lit under this stocks ass!
Some of the patient/doctor stories about the drugs have been great! But they're still just that, stories. with no $ value yet.
And no! I do not think any significant news will come out at mondays conference call to make the stock jump up. More likely trend downwards by days end. Sorry for upsetting anyone on this board. But after years of watching this stock, I'm being realistic with the patterns. The company has an fda approved drug, with greater potential on the horizon...On the horizon, not yet.
To bad this stock has been performing the way it has the last few months. There are some on this board that have gotten very sensitive and insecure about the recent pattern. We are living in a stock market that is used more now for quick profit taking, rather than a long profit taking. The true longs should not be threatened by such actions in price or the rant of others. If one is a true long because they "know what they own", then they shouldn't fret upon where the price is today, or the factual or non factual comments of others. I for one lost quite a few numerals from my account from this recent decline of Ariads pps, because i am not savvy enough to short or make quick profits from the market...yet...So, a long I am.
Thanks for clarifying!
"Everyone recognizes the potential now."
Who? The people on this board. or the analysts who downgraded the stock recently?
disney will beat out all those other companies mentioned on this board and buy us out for $100...billion... dollars!...mwahahahahahaha...
One more down day and we can match the record for most red days in a row, which currently stands @ 8 market days (which was also accomplished just mere weeks ago). At this point, I guess thats something to try and eclipse, LOL.
Thanks for the lesson....still alot of psychics on this board.
Not at all...Are u aware of how many predictions for share price were made for 2012 that were wrong? If i make a predictian and say that the share price will be between $15. And $100. The next 12 months, will that improve my credential on this board?