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JJ, thank you very much, for the information. I agree with your estimated time line, there is no absolute time. It will be nice to step up to the pay window indeed, thank you again.
JJ, thank you for your response, so the appeals have been in place since a while ago, now it may be two to three months for the the courts listen to the verbal pleads of both parties and what ever the outcome of that if VRNG is triumphant will direct Google to pay or post a bond for the amounts ordered by the court to be paid to VRNG. Something like that but the bottom line in time lapsed two to three months more or less, I guess. Thank you again for everything. GO VRNG. OMO.
JJ, how long will it take from the end of this trial for VRNG, and GOOG, to ask for an appeal, and how long will it take for the appeal(s) trials to begin. Thank you for all your past and future help, it has been a long road and just curious how many more miles to travel. Thank you again.
muscleshoals, zena, flat, everone, can you please elaborate what is going on, I am into this co. lets say pretty deep, always believing that this was a done deal and we would be producing energy latter this year. Is my illusion false? or should we get ready to get into the first life boat that comes along? How is every one taking this news. Where is David Zembeck in all of this?
Red Angus, good morning, you have answered some of my concerns in the past, But my understanding is that after the trial has ended, you can not bring in any further information or rebuttal to the case. Can they allow for these information to be added? thank you for your answer.
Subslover, thank you for touching bases, now that we have the political situation out of the way we need to see some good news regarding the company meaning good earnings. Nice to hear from you have a great day. GLTA
Stockbar, good morning, VRNG'S attorneys need to put an end to all the nonsense. Being courteous to HHJ, but firm. Somehow Google is getting away with disregarding the Law, don't they understand they lost the case, although now that they admit to infringing the patents we need to appeal to be able to bring in the laches as far back as when they started to infringe on the Patents. OMO
Crumbster, Google may loose against Microsoft the use of Maps in Germany also.
Google looses legal case in Germany, google it and post it I do not know how to post a link. Sorry guys!!!!
Big Arlen Van Black, Tom4, JJ, Red Angus, all legal minds, and all concerned, three hours ago on Bloomberg, Google lost a legal case in Germany, Google, Goolge lost legal case in Germany over patents, good news for us. I would give you guys the link but I do not how, maybe someone can google it and post it for every one to see. GLTA
Lowhndcpr, the worst scenario is to hang on to your shares for a while, do not do anything until we see the reply from VRNG, I believe that we are going to proof willfulness on part of Google and finally HJJ, will come down on Google for all the shenanigans Google has put VRNG and him through.
JJ, thank you for correcting me, there is not much that I can add at this juncture. Then looking at the Judge through a fine glass he has not been to much on the side of VRNG, has he? OMO
Realizer, (SHORTS!!!), OMO
My previous reply to Low, I meant that VRNG had not received the documents from Google. My Error.
Lowhndcpr, the laches and the 158 million at this moment are in the hands of HJJ, do not forget that the laches were sneaked in by google lying that they had warned VRNG, when they had not done it at all, HJJ ruled in the believe that google had actually received the documents the morning in question, when actually they had not, (THE LACHES ARE GOING TO BE APPEALED BY VRNG), regarding the 158 million HJJ, has the power to correct the numbers from 15.8m to 158m (I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS CAN BE APPEALED BY VRNG), now we will see what HJJ is made out of, do not discount this two moves that may come our way. Google, will appeal if HJJ does this move, legally I do not if Google can appeal or not. regarding the rest of the work around, it is not up to VRNG to prove that the work aroung is working, anything of what took place during the trial stays with the trial, it is up to Google to either prove to the Court that the work around is working or go back and start a new Case. The pps will be played by the Shorts and M/M as they have been doing so. My dear friend at this juncture of the game you either are in for the Long if you believe VRNG will prevail or exit taking a small hit and see what happens later. OMO, GLTA
European, thank you very much, for posting google's answer. We have to wait for VRNG'S response. They have tried to try the whole trial on 27 pages, we'll see what our attorneys answer, OMO, GLTA
JJ, where can I find the posting of google reply, or can someone post it, please.
Mirk Water, thank you for your answer regarding my posting, I tend to believe that you are close to the estimation of what the pps with a favorable ruling will be, thank you again. GLTA
StockGuru4u, may I ask of you and in your most profound wisdom, how high do you see VRNG stock going up after the Judge rules and is favorable to VRNG? (in the near term, one week, maybe two), I invite all members to join in giving your two cents worth. Thank you for your kind reply to my question.
Patentinvestor, I agree with you and perhaps they may consider an offer. In your estimation what would the price tag would be If VRNG decided to sell to Google what would it be, 1B, 2B, 3B, or (?).
IBH, it would be nice to be able to hold on, as you say if there is a sizable pop for me ($6/$9), I would sell 50%, and see how far the other 50% will go. All this of course is contingent after HJJ, is out of the picture. GLTA
IBH, thank you, It is absurd that this has gone for so long, without a ruling that will shed some light as to where we are going. I am not selling my shares, had the opportunity a couple of times, but I believe in the VRNG team. We may have to sit and wait for those rulings. Thank you again. GLTA
Tom4, Do not be disappointed, give it some time. We all need to visit the Fountain of Patience, and that includes our feelings toward HJJ. No one is going to hide anything, Google does not have a "Work Around", only thing we need is to move the case along and it will all come out into the light. GLTA
IBH, good morning, where did you see that,could you please share with us. Thank you. GLTA
JJ, thank you, as always a fountain of information for all of us. I guess at this time the best thing is to go to the fountain of patience and take a four week drink from it. I think I will adhere to Red's views, not advice, and hang on to this investment for a while. There is no illness that last a 100 years or a human being that can tolerated it. My honest opinion is that our investment will be one that will bring in a very good return for those that take the HIGH ROAD and wait this one out. It is my honest opinion. GLTA
JJ, Red Angus, and other legal minds. I am trying to decipher this legal web of no action from the bench. I am wrong in entertaining the thought that HJJ, is waiting for VRNG'S brief on June 3rd, to see where they are going?, could it be that HJJ realizes that he has committed some errors that have really and truly impacted this case early on, laches for one, the error from the jury of 158m not 15.8m, allowing this circus to go on and on?, where does it stops? please help all of us, some are really desperate other are not allowed to bail out due to their position being over what the pps has been lately. I think that VRNG'S management can not say much out loud since they are not allowed, how else can we find out if there some irons on the fire that are going forge a future for us? thank you for your response. GLTA
JJ, thank you, complex, but learning experience for me. Certain ingredients have to be lined up in the right places for the pps to go up, than again there have been many times that a home run has been hit with the bases loaded. Lets hope for that to happen. JJ, thank you again. GLTA
tobinator00, had to step out, but I am back. It is fascinating finally we are becoming not a dream company but a real generating income company in its field, a field that even as an investor Mark Cuban has called it a troll company. We need for HJJ, to step in and bring down the ruling as it should be on Vrng's side. Well thank you very much I am long with my VRNG. GLTA
arper, thank you very much for your explanation. GLTA
JJ, for someone who does not understand short, why are they Awesome!!
whateva77, did not mean to get you killed on the runway, just to see your reaction, my appologies for that GO VRNG. GLTY
whateva77, your comments are demeaning and rude towards a person who you do not even know. I have not read so much rudeness in a very long, long time, you take the "Blue Ribbon", by the way why don't you go play on an active runway and wait for a 747 to land.GLTY
xlt, she brought us this far, lets give her our thanks for all the work she performed. HIP, HIP, HURRAY, GOOD LUCK TO HER!!!!
coolerheads, sorry I stand corrected, I guess she may leave after the reporting is done.
Tom4, I have my space suit on and ready to blast off,GLTA
xltleader, in the announcement it says that she remains with the company in charge or reporting and maintaining all legal aspects of reporting.
arper, thank you very much, I appreciate your correction, Laches will be from now on, along with the 500 million. Do we have anyone living close to the court house?, maybe they could check with the clerk of the court i HJJ, signed the order earlier today?
Red Angus, thank you very much, I did not loose my noodles after all. I think there is a lot of monies to be collected if I/P is successful in wining the appeal. Does anyone have an idea as to how much i involved in the latches from 2005 til now? it would be nice to know. Thank you Red, let's hope that is the icing on the cake.
arper, thank you for restoring my memory, so there will or may be an appeal on the latches. I believe that HJJ knows he did not performed as he should have. Hopefully he will repent and do right by us now. OMO, thank you for your kind help. GLTY
Red, JJ, sometimes my noodles are out of the pot and do not perculate as I used to. Did I read somewhere or was it mentioned that since HJJ did not give VRNG a chance to answer regarding the latches that if the case would go to an appeal that VRNG would have the opportunity to bring back the Latches to be retroactive to 2005?. GLTA