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i'll be getting a haswell i7 for the small desktop i'll build as soon as they come out. i just don't like swapping processors so i buy high.
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and by all accounts phone and tablet launches at CES and the phone show a few months later. all before he retires.
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AMD selling Austin campus. Looking for sale/leaseback deal.
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All the computers I support are Win7 and it was a huge improvement over XP. The non-UI improvements on Win8 are substantial from all accounts.
I'll probably buy a copy of the upgrade and see if I can figure out how to work around it for a desktop on one machine.
I still expect corp users to crap all over the Win8 metro UI and force MSFT to do something reasonable in SP1.
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What really bugs me is that Win8 has some very nice enhancements bullied by some dumbs*** tablet startup screen. I have no idea who in MSFT thought this was a good idea but they should have their ass handed to them on the way out the door.
No problem with a low info density interface for a tablet but for real computation, interaction and creation a high density multi-windowed interface is required.
Tablet = Window singlular
Notebook, Desktop = Windows plural
idiots...
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Probably so but I'm interested in it from two perspectives.
It may be that it represents a two year lifetime for desktop Haswell rather than the usual one year. In light of any real competition in the highend desktop that's not an issue IMO.
From a MB manufacturer viewpoint it could be viewed either negatively or positively. Haswell is a new socket and having additional life for the MBs created for it means less thrashing when the next year comes. OTOH, those who figure out how to deal with the logistics of BGA desktop chips and have the financials to do so may have an advantage although not without significant risks.
It should be fun to watch.
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S/A Broadwell article was updated with:
Updated 11/26/12@3:25pm: One point to add, two OEMs have confirmed to SemiAccurate that they have now been briefed that Broadwell is BGA only. This was done weeks after we first told them about the problem.
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No socket for Broadwell?
http://semiaccurate.com/2012/11/26/intel-kills-off-the-desktop-pcs-go-with-it/
Haswell is 2013, 22nm, tock.
Broadwell is "Haswell" on 14nm, tick, but no socket.
Skylake is new arch on 14nm, tock, socket returns, presumably new socket.
I wonder if this is a new ticktock pattern where tocks last two years on the desktop.
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Google sells ads so each tablet is a recurring revenue stream.
Apple gets revenue from App Store.
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Production?! We don' got no production! We don' need no stinkin' production!
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whether cancelled or not this is going to cause a lot of discussion between amd/oems/cios.
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S/A: AMD exits big cores?
http://semiaccurate.com/2012/11/19/amd-kills-off-big-cores-kaveri-steamroller-and-excavator/
Can't imagine any CIO approving any more AMD servers if true. Might even kill any cancellable orders. Server OEMs will end up eating these.
Santa brings a nice upside for Intel.
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yup
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One apps specialist at Intel quickly coined "Billions Invested In Nonsense" when the name BiiN was announced.
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I fully expect business adoption on desktops to wait for a UI patch back to Win7.
That's not a small market to ignore.
I expect that around SP1.
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My impression of posts like this is that they come from folks who have absolutely no idea of how hard it is to create a semiconductor product for a distinctly different purpose like a phone. That Intel has managed to achieve parity in this short a time (Razer i) is astonishing.
I've absolute confidence that the 22nm and beyond products will put significant positive distance between Intel and ARM alternatives in the smart phone space. Phone suppliers using Intel and Android will benefit their customers greatly.
Android is already at 70+% MSS. It will likely rise as a result.
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and by all reports a significantly upgraded gpu onboard as well.
as i mentioned before i'm looking forward to building a nice integrated, compact and quiet desktop with haswell.
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I was also amused by the bone they threw to the Steamroller team about how they could close some of the gap between AMD and Intel offerings since so much was left on the table by Bulldozer. "Could" being the operative term...
My personal opinion is that "could" will likely become "could have".
If Kanter's description of the changes in Haswell are accurate it would require a huge effort to not only make the changes but validate them. That's a lot of computer time, man hours and money. Not likely that effort could be matched by an increasingly downsized AMD. That's not even counting all that comes from power management associated with exploiting Intel's 22nm trigate process tech. He never touched on any of that.
AMD is much more likely to become a even tinier speck in the rearview mirror. Can you say "dust mote?" I knew you could.
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Well the only thing that the author hates worse than Intel is Nvidia so it's hard to put too much stock in it.
The Cray machine in TX with the Xeons and Xeon/Phi configuration will be interesting to watch.
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Several articles on S/A on Intel Phi. Here's one:
http://semiaccurate.com/2012/11/13/what-will-intel-xeon-phi-do-to-the-gpgpu-market/
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I know portables seem to be all the rage but my next PC will be a Haswell ITX or similar to sit behind a monitor and power two separate monitors in my ham radio "shack."
Looking for something that will stand the test of time and not make noise. Low power and completely integrated and likely have a SSD since I don't need a lot of storage. I like performance!
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How did that work out for those who chose IBM?
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I'm sure you remember that the Intel sales force on the major OEMs and ODMs don't just take orders and drop products on the shipping dock. There's a lot of discussion that occurs about what end product specifications would best serve the customers and often market development funds are offered where significant risks are taken in pursuit of market expansion.
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AMD sold hard into a $1.98 close on 1.5x average volume.
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I think that by 2014 a lot of tech claims will have proven themselves either way. I fully expect Intel to execute to their plan, I fully expect the pretenders to execute themselves...ala hoist by their own petard.
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Device physics has become increasingly difficult and implementing in a high volume fashion insanely expensive. The rest of the folks going it alone gave up and joined the IBM "club." You figure out the rest...
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tick, tock,...
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I've no doubt they're exploring the idea. Chutzpah alone would dictate that. I've also no doubt that the lead Intel continues to increase between themselves and anyone else in the semiconductor world will kill any of those fantasies.
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I always just put the USB label upwards. If it is poorly marked I augment with a sharpie.
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I don't know of any...
Link or explanation please.
tnx
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Watt limitations only affect rate of charge. I seriously doubt that MicroUSB was the reason for Apple's silly new connector. IAC EU requires MicroUSB anyway. Apple sells an adapter for that.
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There's plenty of need for improved battery life and improved performance. If the only process capable of delivering to that need happens to be Intel's and devices built on Intel products are successful...Apple will notice.
I suggest patience...
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Peak...peek...piqué...
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But that's ok since in the meantime Intel won't have any competitive products in the lowpower rack mount space. Because the AMD Seamicro plans are a big secret and Seamicro fabric is so special.
:rollseyes:
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Usually targets are 12 month ones. In 12 months AMD will have left a string of 5 quarters of red ink. The ARM chips aren't due until "sometime" in 2014. Only then can they possibly stop the bleeding...if you believe the tale. Figure another 3-4 quarters after launch for them to be "material."
That's mid-2015 at best even if AMD holds schedule...ever see that happen?
AMD will need a cash infusion long before ARM comes to the rescue. Won't be good for shareholders.
$14! Ha!
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I read that any such products wouldn't be out until 2014. Care to wager which quarter?
2013 isn't going to be a good year for AMD.
BTW, I get a laugh out of the analysts fawning over the Seamicro stuff.
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I wonder where the resources for those will come?
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Big surprise... Not
ARM servers.
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AMD has some news webcast after market close today.
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