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Actually, Buying @ then Selling @ .0001, is always a loss.
Under Normal conditions, there’s likely never a “break even” point on shares sold at the same price purchased. Each buys/sells transactions costs commission and therein lays the losses from the Grand Total of the Bottom-Line.
IF I was to start out with $1000 and repeatedly bought and sold at the same PPS, the commissions would be chewing away at the bottom-line each time. Eventually the $1000 would become $0.00
Ditto! If I bought at .0001 and sold at .0002.
But as for the Buying and selling at the same PPS and actually break even? –There “IS” a possibility! (Under Abnormal conditions, of course.)
Depending on the brokerage, one must “Maintain” a certain large capital balance in their brokerage account to qualify for commission free trades and therein lays the exception to the rules….
(The commission free trades are the incentives for maintaining large capital balances within said brokerage account)
Most common traders don’t know about this, as they’ll likely not have, yet alone keep or maintain, the necessary large capital balance in their brokerage account to qualify.
The more money at your disposal, the more monetary information ends up in your path.
I must concur as a LONG witness to that hard learned fact.
RE: (Here is my reply to you stockseekerok.NEVER NEVER buy any penny stock higher than 0.0001.)
Although when a stock sits at ‘.0001’ on the ask with no bid, for an extended length of time, an R/S is imminent!
This has been my experience, but not necessarily everyone else’s.
HGLC, Sure would nice to see $10-$12 next week!
Since there a lot of wishful thinking thrown around, I figure what the heck, let’s just go all out!!
If I had ‘.0001’ for every time I see claims of “NEXT WEEK” being the “BING BANG BOOM!” for the PPS, I’d just sit back and get rich off of the claims alone..
The likelihood of HGLC going to a penny this year (if ever) is next to the powers of the force.
This stock already did its feedings and now sits at no bid while the turn is shifted to its brother stock.
And when his belly is full, he’ll return to NO BID and the feedings will shift back here again.
I mean,, that is the pattern, is it not?
FFGO –Taxable or None Taxable.
That was the question...
For all it’s worth, after reading up through now, I felt compelled to respond to the comment regarding whether or not the IRS requires payment on Divvies/stocks.
Note: gains, regardless of size, remains “Unrealized” until sold.
You do not owe taxes on shares you own until they’re converted into actual CASH via selling them.
You will owe Estimated taxes on divvies that show up in your portfolio as CASH. (Divvies in CASH? very unlikely)
You will NOT owe Estimated taxes on divvies that show up in your portfolio as SHARES.
This would be pointless and primed for accounting errors with every instant the PPS changes. –One minute you OWE taxes on your capital gains followed by the next minute where you’re then OWED taxes on your capital losses. –This kind of flip-flopping can happen several times a minute, through hundreds of times in one trading day. This is why settlements are “SETTLED” on a SELL of shares, whereby then, the capital (cash) value of your gains/losses is no longer volatile, but instead, final.
THEN you can talk about Taxes/IRS.
(yeah yeah yeah I know, my explanation was grossly over simplified.) -Heh!
In the mean time, the volume for FFGO, (suddenly, as it seems), went to strange heights today, so much so, that the .0001 got nudged to .0002
Amazingly, this nudge seems to have created quite a ripple of attention.
(Sweats of anxiety wiped from many foreheads)
I wonder what kind of chatter is lofting around among the stock clouds on this Ticker Symbol.
Did someone turn on the lights?
Or am I having a “ Warp-Driven ” imagination.
>B^}
HGLC Now Trading Day 33 of 45 and counting..>8^}
(This is a bet that within 45 days from the PR back on 12/05/08, {after enough shares are sold} there will likely be a PR release explaining why nothing went as planed.)
..{B^>
But in giving HGLC the benefit of all doubts, the following ‘Tradable’ days were excluded from the count-down;
12/24/2008 and 12/31/2008.
(Days the Stock Market closed early)
>6^>
Well well well well, a PR release!
(Yaaaaaawn!!)
Nice to see shareholders are constantly being, "Yaaaaaawn!, informed..
(Psssst.. maybe they’ll buy more shares) - *Wink-Wink
I also noticed the Carrot was "moved" out to next month. Enough to sneak in a little delay, *Wink-Wink, while close enough to keep shareholder's interested..
-Nice...
NOW TRADING DAY 33 of 45....>8^{ .......and counting..... >=^{
Oh and,, by the way, those symbols are FACE EXPRESSIONS. (Sideways).....>6^>
(for those having problems with abstract character art.)
RCCH..... um, about the iBOX?
Along with everything else that was long winded.
Through all the company names thrown around and contacts being referenced, WE SIT AT NO BID AND .0001 ASK….
So what good is all the leads and pointers if after all that is said and done, Bag Holders is the only REALITY that stands in CLEAR VIEW.
Sure I can sit LONG, cutting & pasting links and leads all day long.
I can sit here feeding myself everything I want to believe, read and hear, for self-gratification.
BUT, it’s all completely nullified by the REALITY of the stock value that is SHOWN!
WE SIT AT NO BID AND ASK at .0001….
When this changes, THEN opposing comments can have merit.
Until then, opposing comments stands “abandoned” by the “CURRENT” PPS status we all can SEE.
Thus, I’ll restate my a line from my previous POST,
We’ll just “SEE” what happens.
NBVG the opening PPS after last R/S maybe INCORRECT!!!!
This stock DIDN’T likely have the correct Bid/Ask value immediately following the Last Reverse Split!
The rule for reverse split is to “Reorganize” the PPS, using the Number of shares of a given portfolio so that the Market value remains UNCHANGED!!
THEN following this, the market decides where it goes from there.
NOT THE R/S!
The “CORRECT” value of the PPS following the last R/S should have been $5!!!
Instead it was .30 cents!!
THIS APPEARS MANIPULATED!!!
Proof?
Simple Math!
If you had 50,000 shares on a PPS of .0001, your market value would be $5, would it not?
Now on a R/S of 1 / 50000, such as in the case with this stock, done back on 01/09/2009, the following should hold true.
Your shares / (R/S) * PPS = Your Shares Owned
Shares now owned * PPS = Your Market Value, immediately following the R/S.
Therefore;
50000 shares becomes 1 share on a “1/50000” R/S.
Market value on .0001/PPS is $5.00 of you own 50000 shares.
Therefore; (Keeping the Market Value the same).
Market value on $5/PPS is $5.00 of you own “1” share.
But in this case, the PPS following the R/S was .30.
Your market value “OPENED UP” at “.30”.. What happened to the remaining “$4.70”?????
Of course AFTER the CORRECT posting of the "initial" PPS, the market can sway any way it wants. However, if the market changed “During” the R/S process where you’re unable to SEE your account activity to know HOW to proceed, then, you’ve likely been scammed.
I doubt it was an accident. You don’t get into the stock market as a trading company and have no clue to all the "RULES of the TRADE" -including all the sneak tactics.
The company makes off with the difference without you ever having the rightful opportunity to react (immediately sell) when trading became active.
The R/S done by this company appears manipulated!!
The SEC shell be notified!!!
RCCH Warning! Sitting @ 0.0/Bid & .0001/Ask too long.
In my experience with pinks, (Unless it’s just my usual bad luck), if a pink-ticker sits at .0000 Bid and .0001 Ask too long, it becomes primed for a Reverse Stock Split.
Although not always, it seems to happen more often than not, “under the pink sheets”
>8^}
In some sense, we can blame the state of the economy, but, one would not likely know it’s impact better than companies who are usually in the first line of defense.
With this company knowing the state of the economy, why would they put out a “BAIT”-PR to pull in investors, all while likely knowing weeks before that stock would be sitting at where it is right now.
Creating a band of bag holders who are, well, “Left holding the bag”. –LOL!
Needless to say, their genre of business is very much in demand. Especially overseas.
Having an international status, I’d think they’d be trading much higher than they are now.
Guess I'll just wait and see where this thing goes.
HGLC Now Trading Day 26 of 45 and counting..>8^}
(This is a bet that within 45 days from the PR back on 12/05/08, {after enough shares are sold} there will likely be a PR release explaining why nothing went as planed.)
..{B^>
But in giving HGLC the benefit of all doubts, the following ‘Tradable’ days were excluded from the count-down;
12/24/2008 and 12/31/2008.
(Days the Stock Market closed early)
>6^>
*(in the voice of Pin-Head from the movie Hell Raisers),, “Awwww what do we have here today.”....“Ahhh?,, another PR I see”,,
..>B^>
”hmmm,,, now let’s see what it says”;
{reading…. http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/090113/0465654.html
“wel’hel’hel’hell,,Nice PR!.. Very Nice!… and amazing no one ever picked up on the underlying Carrot being offered.”
I think I’ll play the Devil’s Advocate,,>6^>….and surface the “Carrots” in the comments.. (Notice all the DELAY points)
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NEW YORK, NY--(MARKET WIRE)--Jan 13, 2009 -- Hunt Gold Corporation (Other OTC:HGLC.PK - News) confirms that it has commenced with the immediate staking of additional 71 different but adjoining Claim Blocks surrounding its "Mockingbird" Gold Mine in Arizona and explains its rationale for this additional capital expenditure.
ADVERTISEMENT –(Ah,, so it’s all just Advertisements?)
Full details of these additional claims staked by the Company will be announced once all paperwork has been filed with the BLM.
(LOL So now BLM is the hold up?)
These claims are well known to the Company and are considered to be strategically important.
–(Claims? Considered? –LOL! But nothing set in Stone),, Pun not intended…,,>6^>….
The company considered (-oh boy,,that word again) past exploration and mining history prior to acquiring its properties and was strongly encouraged by its findings.
(–LOL! Yet nothing is set in Stone)
There is no doubt that there is gold on Hunt Gold Corporation's properties. (It can legally be there even if it’s only a spoon full-LOL!) ..Four of the mines at the Company's "Mockingbird" Gold property are listed in Arizona Lode Gold Mines and Gold Mining, published by the Arizona Geological Survey.
The company is drilling to define the gold resource (If any) and determine how it may best be mined and at what gold price it can be mined at a profit. ( Guess that means they hope there’s enough GOLD found to fund the rest of the mining project) This will take several drill campaigns. (Ya Think?) Some of the drill holes will have gold. Some will not.
(–LOL! That’s it Baby,, Prep’m! -LOL! As most may very Well become, Well?,,, “A WELL”) -ROFLMAO!
We will learn if (IF) the current drilling has found gold once the drill core has been assayed by the independent assay lab, and this process can take several weeks to a month (The Carrot is moved out to Next month? -LOL! -Ya gotta Love'm) since it is done by fire assay, still the most accurate method for gold.
The Company's "Mockingbird" Gold Mine is a good example. Anaconda found anomalous gold throughout its 2 square mile claim block. Anaconda viewed the property as having 1,000,000+ ounce gold potential (Potential? Why in hell are they always making back-door claims). The project was not terminated based on its merit. Rather, Anaconda's corporate parent, oil giant ARCO, shut down Anaconda because of environmental liabilities at its Butte, Montana copper mine. (Researching this…)
The Company's "Ambassador" Gold Mine is a similar situation, UNC was encouraged by its preliminary work on the project and viewed the gold deposit as having 1,000,000 ounce potential. Its corporate parent (GE) decided to refocus the company on uranium, and the gold projects were jettisoned.
(Dumped the Gold mining plans and went for Uranium? -hmmmm)
Whether Hunt Gold mines a particular property itself, uses a contract mining company or yet another approach will depend on what makes the most financial sense for the company and its stockholders. (What? There’s concerns for investor’s interests? -um, a higher PPS and no dumping might be more convincing) The company is not wedded to any particular approach until far more extensive exploration and drilling has been conducted over the coming months.
The Company is committed to a "non stop" and greatly expanded drilling and exploration campaign on its targeted Mines in its portfolio.
(That’s odd, I was once committed too, but they ran out of funding and couldn’t replace the padded walls)
>8^}
ABOUT HUNT GOLD CORPORATION
Hunt Gold Corporation is a Gold Mining & Exploration Company focused on the development and exploration of its Gold properties, namely "Mockingbird," "Ambassador," "Golden Eagle," "Gladstone Lookout," "Lady Alde," "Lookout Silver," "Starlight," "American Flag," "Venezia," "Stormcloud," "Cherry," "Buffalo Limecap," "Red Cloud" and "Federal." The Company has completed the sale of its "American Molygold" interests and will be distributing the entire sale proceeds through a Stock Dividend to its stockholders, this to be announced in January of 2009.
(I like the following “Release from liability” clause, that appends at the end of all these pinks.. In other words, don’t take anything said, seriously –cause we don’t –LOL!)
This release contains "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended and such forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. "Forward-looking statements" describe future expectations, plans, results, or strategies and are generally preceded by words such as "may," "future," "plan" or "planned," "will" or "should," "expected," "anticipates," "draft," "eventually" or "projected." You are cautioned that such statements are subject to a multitude of risks and uncertainties that could cause future circumstances, events, or results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements, including the risks that actual results may differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements as a result of various factors, and other risks identified in a company's annual report on Form 10-K or 10-KSB and other filings made by such company with the SEC.
NOW TRADING DAY 26 of 45....>8^{ .......and counting..... >=^{
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[s]SMWF CES 2009 appearance concerns.
Re:
(I don't know why anyone would get excited about whether or not SMWF appears at CES.
They were at the last 2 CES shows, and actually got quite a bit of press coverage for the S-XGEN. Unfortunately, none of that turned into revenue or profits.
Why would this year's show be any different?
This is a fare question to which I will answer in my opinion.
Whereas, if it were ME, I’d do the following;
Never give up on a project you believe in and use ALL resources, legally at your disposal, to see it through.
SO what if nothing may have become of the last CES appearances in the manor so noted.
(Nicola Tesla, Thomas Townsend Brown and many others, for whom I have no words to express my admirations, was mocked on in their attempts to début their Alien Ingenious Creations).
SMWF needn’t quite over a few failures, (assumed as implied) and I don’t believe they’re without knowledge of their competitor’s rivaling products.
I would never haphazardly market products without first researching its market worthiness yet alone infringements.
I would never be interested in a Lotto Play Stock that didn’t have a potentially good niche.
The S-Gens (sXgens), which was the ONLY reason why I’m in this stock, would have been a better push than the SNBK1 which I “KNEW” would be challenged by other (power-house) companies. –In my opinion.
I would NOT have invested in a company whose starting position is with a product that (Looks Like) it “Already Exists” in the market place.
Regardless of all the inner-technical-differences, the Average Consumer only sees a Flat-Rectangle that opens up to a screen and keyboard followed an important deciding factor as whether they should buy it or not, --- PRICE TAG!
…>6^>.
Companies with large capitals can afford to produce “Notebook’Ish” products to be sold at under-prices. (Because the they can always reap the differences of OTHER products they sell at Over-Prices ..Shhhhhhh!)
..>B^>
If my “DD” serves me right, SMWF may not be able to afford cheaper productions at thing time as this may cause their “Forward looking” money-clock to tick Backwards.
Perhaps the intended sales of the SNBK1 could (Would) cover the monetary differences necessary to sell the S-Gens a lot cheaper.
I believe, if the S-Gens were more competitively (aggressively) priced, they would likely be discovered for the technical wizardry they behold, as more average consumers take possession because they can afford to.
The formation of a “Note Book” style Computer is an Open-Design. Anyone with the right Know-How can garage up one and hightail to the nearest retail for solicitation.
The S-GEN is a “Patented” design package and if my “DD” serves me right, SMWF Owns it.
I WANT me the S-Gen. -Solidstate Drive version.
My heart is set on Owning it.
My fingers are itching.
I “KNEW” other companies would tap the SNBK1’s unpatented design scheme and using their “Existing” capital and decades worth of marketing and sales experience, will likely produce their OWN version(s) at even a cheaper price, using production facilities they already have.
I’m sorry to say but the SNBK1 looks like a glorified commodore 64 with a Lid.
(Although I’m sure it’s technically decades ahead of one)
Maybe SMWF should consider a different packaging.
Other than that, I think SMWF is lotto play worth my investment, given its Niche.
…to be continued
(or maybe not)
..>9^}
SMWF 2 days left at the CES 2009..>6^>
Last day on 01/11/2009...
Seems like every company who PR’ed they’d be there was found when
I did a name search on the CES’s Website here ->http://www.cesweb.org/
Unfortunately, SMWF or Seamless Wireless wasn’t found.
Sure there were variations of listings that did pop-up, with ‘Seamless’ or ‘Wireless’ wording embedded within their texts but nothing relating specifically to “SMWF”.
I’ve decided to review SMWF’s past PR’s for where one read SMWF will spear at the CES 2009. (if I’m recalling this correctly)
Anyone can help to find this..thanks..
But if they’re NOT appearing at the CES 2009, that would be a total Oxymoron.
They spent loads of time and money Pumping out their products on syndicated TV shows and PR’s, then comes an opportunity to début their products at the the International CES is produced by the Consumer Electronics Association (CEA) “four day event” and then DON’T SHOW UP?
Please don’t tell me this is the case,,, Please let me be wrong on this one..
>B^{
NUBV, 1/50000 R/S W/O Warning! (My take on this!)
Did I miss something? Was there no warning?
A quick “DD” didn’t reveal a PR regarding this.
(um..Hello SEC?,, you gotta sec?)
…>=^u
This is one of the challenges with these pinks, they can change at will, just like this.
(That's why they're called Lotto Plays AND always remember to play what you can afford to lose)
...>B^}
Tipically, all is not quite lost..
REMEMBER, immediately following the Reverse Splits, your investments is only Reorganizes and will reflect the SAME initial investment value.
*Meaning, Owning 1,000,000 shares at a PPS of .0001, (prior to the R/S), is monetarily no different from owning 20 shares at $5/PPS, (After a 1/50000 R/S)..
They both multiply out to being valued at $100
( Remember, this is immediately following the Reverse Splits..-although I'm a little perturbed as to why the BID sits at .30 and not at $5 to correctly reflect the 1/50000 R/S, NOW. Current "DD" doesn't show enough Dumps or Sells to drop this to .30/PPS.....Researching)
Well Anywho.
The clincher is, your market value was a lot more “STABLE” when the PPS was at .0001, because you’re at the bottom…
>=^>
But, if the PPS was at $5, (figuratively), it can always fall back to .0001/PPS.
>6^>
If that happens, then your 20 shares, (your Fixed new quantity), in this example, ..>8^}…. is then multiplied by .0001, thus give YOU
a Market Value of .002 Cents…>=^}
After market settles this R/S, there’s going to be a wave of turned heads, as the change from .0001 to $5 on this NUBV stock (now R/S’ed to symbol NBVG) will look like it has a 5,000,000% change of increase in the eyes of the Newbies –LOL! May even trigger Newbies to jump in head first. -LOL!
Although the following percentage gain is what the market likely sees based on the PPS transition from .0001 to .30 on this stock, following today’s R/S.
THEN after about a few hours, (or in a few days) many pissed off CURRENT shareholders would have sold this thing DOWN -LOL!
BUT as for now, I see the ASK is still blank, but, (unsurprisingly), the BID is open for those who want out..-LOL!
And given the BID value, they’ll certainly be going out at a gross loss –(Before commission) –LOL!
Selling at a BID of $5 would be more favorable to get back most of your money –(Less commission).
However, if the BID was $6 or more, (Depending on how much shares the R/S left you with), the commission might be covered on your sell and you’ll break even or more.
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Here’s some good points to remember on this stock:
This whole R/S thing could also take another spin.
It could spark a buying spree that may sent this thing up yet even higher..
All the flippers will be flipping out –LOL!
Interestingly enough, this company DOES have a good product.
Sometime companies do an R/S strictly for reorganization purposes.
(Not to rip shareholders off).
Shown history chart above, (for the last 3 years) the last R/S was 8/14/2007 @ 1/3000
–if my “DD” serves me right.
This stock DID trade as high as $70/PPS, just February 11 of 2008. (less than a year ago today).
Also, according to the chart above, divulged the PPS of this stock having trading as high as 100’s of thousands ($$$) per share!!
Did this stock have the credibility of S&P 500 listings?
Feel free to verify this and more with your own “DD”
In my view, I’m still with this stock and considering buying more after all the panic sellers clears the room.
-LOL!
>9^}
IPKL.0002's painted today.Yaaaawn..>6^{..Hmph!
OK,, here are the trades that took today, -through back to last Monday
Seems like .0002’s were painted five times.
That’s odd.
I’m researching this to see what’s up.
(Figures this would activity AFTER I sold all my shares in this dead house turned Live horse)
When I get my tax refund (From losses I’ve incurred in this horse, last year) maybe (Maybe), I’ll buy back in..
Other than that, I’ll just “DD” this thing to see if it’s worth a 2nd try.
It's been known to spike the attention before quietly slothing Zeros...
(until they run low on money and need a refill)
>6^{
FFGO 1/5/9 (L2) shows ‘.0007’ purchase?..
>8^d
now now there
>=^}
Did someone in this forum make that purchase?
(Wink-Wink)
-LOL!
I’ve read a POST that made claim to this, decided to evaluate the claim and to my surprise, the following is what I found having transacted today..
How Tha!!
What Tha!!
Who Tha!!
Where Tha!!
WTF?!?!?!?!
Nawwwwww…..
Could someone check their listing?
I think mine is Bugged..
>9^)
cause, who in Cyber-HAYELL done spent $5740 to get 8200000 shares, that in less than 10 dayum minutes is valued at $820
-LOL!
(Wondering if I should change my profession to SHARE cropping)
..>=^{
Either someone's throwing Bananas
>B^{
OR - There's some otherworldly forces at work here…
}=^)
>6^>
HGLC …Hunter6110?..WOWZERS!!
-LOL!
I followed your posts (as I do everyone’s) and "dayUM"!,,>8^o….. you really have it in for SUM -LUMB...UM.. -LOL!
I mean like,, what ya-tryina-say,, Lumb is a Lumberjack ..>6^>… who's out to “Jack” shareholders? -by Trade? –LOL!
OOPS!…..>8^o…… I better watch that….>6^>….
Ironically, much of what you’ve ascertained seem to ride on some historical track records.--Ouch!
I don’t believe those track-records are Lumb's intentions. I believe it's all just mere happenstance..
I mean, who's to say that HGLC (ffgo),, aren’t just simply having a short-streak of bad luck…
After all, (if I might play the advocate)…>6^>…they’re not immune to Market-Turmoil….>6^D…..
Incidentally, they should be accredited for surviving (being listen) this long to begin with.
Speaking of lengths of survival, Maybe it’s me but I find it hard to believe that either company is a scam.-------(aww hell, I done did it now)…>6^}
I mean, they’d have some pretty big “gonads” to make PR claims that are Knowingly false and risk immediate discovery the countless “attention spans” drawn TO them.
Even of those “paid” agencies that put up the PRs, do they not have conscience of the risk they place on their OWN credibility? -to authorize the release of false claims and statements they are backing? (so it appears) Do they not verify the credibility of documents placed in their hands for print? –Or are they just a bunch of “Conscience-Less” automatons.. >8^}
I doubt that Multiple Press Releases of false claims, from companies seeking the sale of their shares, would go without getting “legal” attention.
By Law, giving the level of monetary damages many may (simultaneously) incur, places such an act, by category, as that of a felony.
AND, if allowed to persist after having such suspicions repeatedly brought to the attention of governing parties, (Such as the SEC), then such parties are thereby accomplices and held responsible for damages incurred by those so effected.
Not so much as to why the buyer bought the shares, but why fraudulent companies (who for this reason shouldn’t exist to begin with), are available FOR public trading and operating under the wing of governmental entities who were created and designed with the protection in investor’s interests in mind.
THIS is the part of the equation that doesn’t add up and in dire need of a theorem serum…>6^}
>8^{
Therefore, the SEC should be ridiculed…
But as far as HGLC/FFGO are concerned, I’m willing to wait and see.
By track records, they stand a chance of running to another roadblock.
They have only to follow-through ONCE, and things should be all up-hill from there.
BUT,, I must also ask, why would a vast number of investors bother with this stock if it was a scam?
Are they all stupid at once?...-LOL!.
OOPS!.....that includes ME!.....[8^d
I think not...
>=^}
HGLC .. “bobbybdb” Re: DTCC issues.
Hello “bobbybdb”, in response to your question.
I don’t believe the DTCC has any direct bearings on the nature of trades performed by investors.
It IS between the brokerage firms and their clients.
The DTCC basically helps automate, centralize, standardize and streamline processes that are critical to the safety and soundness of the capital markets.
Read more of the DTCC here; http://www.dtcc.com
They don’t actually “GOVERN” whether one can actually place a trade directly or “on-line” through a broker. Research divulged that whether or not a company trades through a given broker is solely at the digression of the broker.
In research, there are a whole host of reasoning as to why a company will trade through one broker and not another.
Although you could ask your broker for reasons, they’ll likely not know why since the reasoning stems from the brokerage firm’s “Internal Ogres” and actually none of their business.
In some cases, the trading company doesn’t know.
Reasoning can be for tracking purposes, issues with certain free trading clearances and (Broker)-God knows what-all.
While you also mentioned your fidelity account can trade (Place On-Line BUY orders for) HGLC, there are likely some stock they wont allow “on-Line” trading without their intervention.
Every Brokerage Firm doesn’t likely share the same trading criteria(s) for the same trading companies.
BUT, the CEO of HGLC would need to clear up the broken link if they wish to sell their shares (to buyers) more streamlined.
As I said before, if HGLC released a PR and the PPS increased on market reactions, by the time I call by broker and clear a BUY-Order, the opportunity would have long passed.
Thus making the brokerage call and all that effort, totally worthless.
I’d then be stuck with the alternative of having multiple brokerage accounts.
Then I’d have to link them to transfer funds between them as I chase opportunities on one side or the other –and on and on and on……Naaaaaaaa!….>=^U..
>6^}
"Brad S".Re: FFGO Under microscope.
Hello there, Mr. "Brad S"..
In response to your question.
Early-on, while reading past posts here, it was mentioned that the SEC was reviewing FFGO’s status as it relates to complaint made my disgruntle investors.
Curious about this as a shareholder who IS- NOT, disgruntled with FFGO, I called to weigh the credibility of such complaints.
What I gathered from the SEC rep., FFGO came up on the list of companies that were being reviewed.
I asked what were they being investigated for and I was told that they (the SEC Rep.) are not allowed to disclose that information.
I asked whether it was good or bad and the SEC Rep. repeated they’re not allowed to disclose that information.
I did ask how did they get on that list and the SEC Rep. Stated that trading companies are screened at random.
I then asked a more general question;
How do you protect investor's interests from companies that are believed to be scams. (Not referring to FFGO)
The SEC Rep. Stated, investors holding shares in a company they’re having concerns about can always contact us and we’ll keep it on file.
If we get enough of them, we’ll flag that company as a “company of interest”.
The SEC Rep. proceeded to provide me with a web site (http://www.sec.gov/) with public information regarding what they've just told me and for further SEC related questions..
*Although the SEC’s interest in FFGO carries its own weight, YOU and “I” are the other weighs and are sharing relative concerns with FFGO.
And that's our "Microscope"...>=^}
Is it not?
>8^}.
Yet alone many others who are periodically returning to this FFGO Forum for follow-ups and what-all.
Everywhere from being a spectator to being a “Anchor Poster”….>=^p.
The point is, WE’RE ALL WATCHING FFGO
Even from a distance….
>6^>
FFGO..puppydotcom that was hilarious –LOL!
But I must say, under the up coming Obama Administration, I understand there’s a new SEC appointee.
It is understood that following this SEC-EXCHANGE (pun intended)…>6^>… will be a revamp to the SEC’s structure, (Performing they way they were HIRED to)..>8^{….so that better tracking is made to protect investor’s interests.
Uncle-Sam is now $uffering the SEC's "Ill-Re$pon$ibilitie$"…..>8^[... In the form of paying capital-loss claims to shareholders who could have otherwise been paying capital-gains tax to Uncle-Sam ….-LOL!
(Wouldn't this have soften the blow a bit?)
Of course there are companies that may fail in all their tried and true efforts to succeed.
Those companies are exceptions and investing in them IS “Fair Game” (so to speak).
The issue at hand, is against those companies that are form solely to commit fraud.
Investors who invest in them were at a loss from the very start as the owners of those companies had no initial intentions for growth beyond their own personal bank account(s) from investors they’ve BAITED with their carefully worded PR’s, loaded with dates and other “implied” –verbal tactics that confuses many readers (namely Newbies) to believe in an agenda to be so, without the PR’s specifically SAYING so.
All while other PRs are loaded with blatant lies, told in such a way as to buy time for an escape route, (the ole disappearing act), by the time THEIR TIME is up, to fess-up.
And the current SEC just drags their feet and sloth along.
Complaints from the SEC says “we cant screen every company than go on-line in the market”.
YET, there are devices in place than screens and reject the trafficking of counterfeit money, even in “unattended” vending machines….(yaaaaawn)… in the worst neighborhoods….…..>6^>
The “JOB” of the SEC is to police the Stock Market, not the corner store, not kindergarten pupils..THE STOCK MARKET!!…>8^{
There are NO excuses, as the SEC was designed solely for that purpose.
When you want to police the entrance of a back alley CLUB, ya hire a bouncer.
When you want to police college campuses, ya have the Campus Police.
When you want to police the Highways, ya have the State Police.
When you want to police the Stock Market, ya have the “Securities and Exchange Commission”…(SEC).
Each position(s) is FORMED solely for the “MONITORING TASK” at hand..
All this to say, if there are owners of various companies operating under Securities Fraud, they’re in for some real trouble under the new (upcoming)SEC administration.
Legally, there is no real difference between of criminal sales. Be it “shares from a company” or stolen wristwatches.
But fortunately, the stumbling of some companies didn't likely occur due to fraudulent activities.
One thing for sure, FFGO has been (and still is) under the microscope so closely, it's as if they were transparent…>=^}..
CROSS EYES TO ALIGN RED DOTS and SEE FFGO (center image) IN Transparent 3D! ..>8^}
SO I must ask, if FFGO is not operating correctly, why are they still listed and whether or not they have a BID at this time, they’re still on the OPEN-MARKET for trades…>6^>..
(GO FFGO)….Yep,,, I’m still with ya…
HGLC Now Trading Day 19 of 45 and counting..>8^U
(This is a bet that within 45 days from the PR back on 12/05/08, {after enough shares are sold} there will likely be a PR release explaining why nothing went as planed.)
..{B^>
But in giving HGLC the benefit of all doubts, the following ‘Tradable’ days were excluded from the count-down;
12/24/2008 and 12/31/2008.
(Days the Stock Market closed early)
>6^>
With that being said, here’s what good ole HGLC did in the market today;
-Level 2
Well well well,, Such a nice start for the First Day..>=^}..-LOL!
Now let’s see “every exchange” that took place today in the entire market on "US" side of the globe;.
Actual Trades
Being that the Brokerage Scan didn’t pickup whether these were BUYS or SELLS, I've trunkated it to save space...
>6^>
Well,, maybe they’re all phantom trades –LOL!
Interesting how “every other stock” actually showed an UP/DN arrow as Buy/Sell indicators.
(Researching this issue further).
Through it all,,, there’s loads of actions going on behind the scenes, so it seems.
(As I said before, because all BUY orders for this stock can only be made through your Broker, many would be BUYERS wouldn't even bother going through all that)
I believe if the BUY-Blockers were removed for this stock so that BUY Order can be placed at will, shares would likely be sold more quickly and more often.
You hear that HGLC?, you need to free up this stock with the brokers so that would-be buyers, (investors), wont need to jump through hoops to get to the stock.
(Why raise the A/S to the trillion then have buyers jump through hoops to BUY -LOL!)...Nuts...-LOL!
The down-side of trading this HGLC stock, is that while your broker places you on hold to clear the order, the stock could fall below or rise above your target buy.
If it does and you make a change, you're placed on hold again to get your "NEW VALUE" cleared.
But what if it changes once more...>=^{......-LOL!
I had a stock I wanted to buy at a target price.
as I waited to get IN, it rose 11 tickers over my entry price.
I wanted the stock so I adjusted by price accordingly.
After buying it, about 20 minutes later, it fell to my "initial" target price...>8^{...
About a week later, it rose to my entry price and about week after that it rose only 5 (and some fraction) higher, before I took profits.
If I didn’t have to wait for that dayum Brokerage clearance I would have sold at about 15 tickers above my original "TARGET" entry price...>8^{...that sucked...>=^{
Well, anywho…>6^d
I CAN wait for the mining resumption date (jan/10/09), followed by the assay on samples already unearthed from previous mining operations. (last month).
This is so exiting!!! –What if they say they’ve found gold!!
=)
Exhilarating!! –What if then this PPS jumped in big steps!!
>=)
Out standing!! –What if THEN, HGLC opens up it’s trades to Foreign Markets!!
>=^U
it’s----It’s…IT’S…>8^o....-Believed when seen..>8^[
NOW TRADING DAY 19 of 45....>8^{.......and counting..
>=^{
HGLC TRADING OF 2008 OFFICIALLY ENDED..>8^}
Now comes the time of a NEW era of trading starting tomorrow!
01-01-2009.
We’ve came a Looooooong way,, (baby)…>=^}
And NOW we begin the next chapter in the RED -LOL!
(what a way to start off the new year)…>8^{…Happy $^*%@$$# New Year!!…>8^{
My new years Resolution is to;
NEVER believe any PR’s,, Before they’re proven.
NEVER Believe any HYPES,, Before they’re proven
NEVER think of ANY pinkie as anything other than a Lotto Play, Before proven otherwise.
NEVER go long on a pinkie, that didn’t trade above $20 before becoming a pink.
NEVER wait for a Green Flip on a pink to be Greener before taking profits.
New Years Trading Prayer.
Our Flippers
Which art in the market
How will be thy GAINS
As thy profits come
You called them fools, for believing in a Divvy
many said you’re wrong, believing to soon live large in the City.
As you now count your profits, accumulated from flips
many now sit with shares, not worth Potato-Chips
You wasted no time, selling on a good BID
Now there’s NO BID, why did they sell as you DID
Ye always flip’pith at the first sign of GREEN
Now the stock is worthless, what a pipe DREAM
Maybe their stock will be different, in the year 2009
But many thought this for 2008 and now it’s not worth $10.99
Speaking of which, regarding the 1099 form
Poor ole Uncle-Sam, is going to be taken by a storm.
Many filers will claim their losses HERE
Poor ole Uncle-Sam is gonna be paying out his EARS
But I blame the SEC for not stepping up to the PLAT
They’re laid-back approach is what added to this FATE.
But one can't deny the potential on this STOCK.
If they DO strike gold, this stock will MEGA-ROCK!
As I make my trade, on the next ‘first’ Trading DAY
Lessons learned in 2008 will guide me along the WAY
Forever-more,
Ah-Million.
>8^}
HGLC Now Trading Day 18 of 45 and counting..>8^7
(This is a bet that within 45 days from the PR back on 12/05/08, {after enough shares are sold} there will likely be a PR release explaining why nothing went as planed.)
..{B^>
ONE MORE DAY LEFT FOR GOOD OLE (or for many BAD OLE), 2008!!!
IF YOU'VE NOT SCREENED OUT ALL BAD OR WORTHLESS SHARES BY NOW, YOU ARE HEREBY, "TOO LATE"
That is, unless your broker can process and complete the "Worthless Securities Liquidation" transaction by end of Trading Day, "TOMORROW"...>8^}
Typically, it takes about 2-3 days ..>=^?......Otherwise, you'll have till,,,,=).....12/31/2009,,,>9^}
oh well, so much for the $3000...*Wink-Wink!... deductable that could have been filed on your upcoming tax return...*Wink-*Wink....>9^D ....Ah--Ah--Ahhhh!....Temper temperrrr!...>8^>.........-LOL!
I must admit the silent excitement that looms the air under the next presidency..
There seems to be a tilde wave building up in the shadows.
Seems like many stocks are on the brink of an explosion and are all waiting at the table with a Match in one hand and a Wick in the other.
FFGO and HGLC are no exception..
Why do I get the feeling that all these stocks are quivering silently in their lil corners as they await emergence.
2009 seems like the year of the WASH,, the REBOOT of the economy under a NEW Operating System (so to speak).
The year where many seeds planted in 2008 may begin to sprout. Some sooner than others.
Those who bought shares at record lows may be positioning themselves to sell them at record Highs.
By 2010+, (or 2009)..=).. there may actually be a whole new breed of millionaires if not at least comfortably set for life.
And all without engaging in state lottery games.
I Imagine HGLC may release another PR, early in 2009 (As a reminder), announcing their resumption of mining by January 10, 2009.
Coincidentally, this is about 10 days BEFORE the Obama Administrations goes ACTIVE.
Then following the mining operation, HGLC may release another PR containing all the results of the mining samples already sent off for examination. (According to previous PR's)
Coincidentally, this is just few days AFTER the Obama Administrations goes ACTIVE and that's when the games begin.
Brokers are going to be inundated and likely keeping up by the skins of their teeth.
If there's a time in their lives where they can say they've earned a day's pay,, there will likely be consecutive weeks of it.
-LOL!
Interesting to me and in MY opinion, what a Prime Time to for HGLC to announce their samples were returned as having Gold deposits in them..
Damn-Near every HGLC stock holder would receive one hell of a Stimulus package in the form of share sold at a higher than usual PPS -LOL!
And yes, FFGO's may start seeing their share of UP-Ticks since they have a stake in it's "Sister" HGLC's claims.
-LOL!
ya-THINK?
-LOL!
NOW TRADING DAY 18 of 45....>8^{.......and counting..>=^{
FFGO, the conjecture was based on a big '-IF-'..>6^?
Sorry pal, but, I've not staked nor stated solid claims of either FFGO or HGLC as one to dive into with both feet.
(You've ascertained that,,...>8^}.... not ME)..>6^>
All comments made were "literally" stated, (so to speak)and based on the -IF- factor.
If you don't mind re-reading my post; (( http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=34437281 )), you'll see I was quite clear with that...=)
In some sense, I may even appeared to have underlying doubts which is based on the current track record. (as implied in my post)
BUT, I've also learned that many investors tends to be very quick to jump to a conclusion, on a dime..>=^}....(I used to do that too)
I've seen dead stocks that was so beyond dead that it burned like fossil fuel.
THEN from out of the blue, the damn thing went from grey to 40 cents....WTF?.....>8^o...WITHOUT an R/S..
For all it's worth, this stock (TO ME) is a lotto play (as the saying goes)...and that goes the same for its Sister company, HGLC.
I dont expect either to goto a $1.00 anytime soon (IMO)
But I do expect "Something" in the future, enough to take short profits.
If I can turn $50 into $75 on a flip, I'm fine with that...This is practically no different than buying $50 worth of scratch tickets and winning $75 out of it all.
Hell I'll even settle for breaking even...>=^p...LOL!
Besides, with all the profit flipping I've been doing all over the market, I've nothing to lose waiting out this lotto stock....=)
I think I'm having more fun reading all everyone's posts than I am reading about this stock -LOL!
HAPPY HOLIDAYS AND MUCH LOVE AND BLESSINGS !!
Oh an um,,
(Wonder if FFGO is getting a lil, say, Carried away? -LOL!)
We'll see how it flies in 2009
..>6^}
BUT, the good news is,...=).... the SEC is having an overhaul which may turn up the heat against Companies that holds a Major in Scamology.....>B^(
-So what is it, a Felony for monies taken over $500?
Well, then there's a whole lot of Pinkies that are operating while under a (Felony) warrant for their arrests ...>9^}
But then the Stock Market is the accomplice for AIDING and ABETTING companies that are Criminals By Trade...>=^}
-LOL - Pun intended....-LOL!
However, the SEC can have a field-day with these scams and the monies they'll likely collect via Fines and other criminally charged penalties may be in itself enough to Jump-start the Economy..-LOL!
FFGO ok,, let's see what's up! ..>6^}
But first, WOW,, what a rush!! the market was full of stocks to flip
(where am I gonna put all this money) -LOL!
Time to start digging up the where with-all of this stock (FFGO) again.
2009 around the corner...>8^}
Being that FFGO has a Foot-Hold in HGLC, it's fare to assume that if HGLC announced the actual finding of GOLD is one of their mines which was tested or surveyed as having some TONS of GOLD yet to be Dug up, and therefore (Some how) qualifies to be listed on the OTC BB, yet alone tradable on Foreign markets (so they plan), then their PPS may likely rise as the result on this ans no doubt so will FFGO's "portion" of HGLC's share value will follow.
All has yet to be seen however..
And sorry to admit, the current track record is NOT doing either any justice.
The only way (as it seems) for these to stocks to regain the "Trust of the Trade" (so to speak), is to Strike the GOLD they claim to be actively mining for and Storm the Market with PR's about it.
Amazing how the prospects of WEALTH can cause Amnesia of a bad track record...>=^>
2009 seems to have some underlying significance of prosperity..
An alleged TURNING-POINT of things.
Seems like just about everyone on the "KNOW" has this belief that benifits will be reached by 2010 for those who took their Market Positions in 2008-2009.
2009 seems to be the "Initialize Power Load" (IPL) year that "Reboots" the economy going forwards into 2009-2010.
New Jobs, New Ideas and innovations and more.
-IF- HGLC does find this gold they claim, you can rest assured that that stock and this one will be among the lists of stocks to buy.
Going into 2009, we will see just how REALLY transparent FFGO will be...>6^>
CROSS EYES TO ALIGN RED DOTS and SEE FFGO (center image) IN Transparent 3D! ..>8^}
HGLC *2 e+12* A/S seem large? not quite >6^>
At first glance, an A/S of about 2 trillions seems quite large but when I do the math, it seems quite small....=)
This is what get;
2,000,000,000,000 / 1,000,000 = 2,000,000.
What this says is that '2 +e12' shares can be bought up by '2 +e6' investors with each owning '1 +e6' shares.
If I multiply '2 +e6' shares by, say, '.0001' PPS, then I get $200
Therefore, each investor paid only $200 to get '2 +e6' shares..
When I calculate the number of investors throughout the US Stock Market, it's clear that '2 +e12' A/S could be bought up rather quickly.
If I include the foreign Stock Market, it would be consumed even sooner.
Let's say between both markets I count '10 +e6' potential investors.
Then with '2 +e12' shares divided equally, each investor would only have '2 +e5' shares.
Which at '.0001' PPS would only be about $20 spent per person to own it.
Factoring in the likelihood of many individuals themselves owning '10 +6' shares, will relatively lower the available A/S rather quickly, in and of this alone!.
Also note, unlike many other stocks, HGLC in not a stock anyone can click and buy on the fly or at will.
One must first contact their broker to do it manually for them.
It's possible that if calling your broker to place a BUY order for this stock was not necessary, more trades would be placed on this stock a lot sooner.
Many investors may not want to (or have the time to) sit and call their brokers to trade this stock.
They'll likely move on to another stock with relitive ease..>=^)
Of course, all this attention assumes HGLC announces themselves as having struck GOLD in them thar hills next year (2009).
>6^p
Tax Form 1099
((ARE YOU CLEARING BAD STOCKS FROM YOUR PORTFOLIOS))
>=^}
2008 ENDS WEDNESDAY!!. 12/31/2008
>=^b
I got rid of all my CUSIPS.. (Some of them were 3 years old)....>8^o -LOL!
But I tell you one thing,, come 2009, I'm going to be 'DD'ing and buying like a bandit.
As for HGLC?, we'll soon see soon enough...>6^}
Wonder what the market will be on Monday.....$9^>
HGLC Now Trading Day 16 of 45 and counting..>8^7
(This is a bet that within 45 days from PR back on 12/05/08, {after enough shares are sold} there will likely be a PR release explaining why nothing went as planed.)
..{B^>
HAPPY HOLIDAYS AND MUCH LOVE AND HAPPINESS TO ALL !!!
also Only 3 more trading days left for 2008 ..>8^}
A new trend may likely start on 2009, going forwards...I believe we can all agree that 2008 was a Bad Year.
However 2009 will start a whole new TAX Record...Dollars of 2008 will close and A new chapter will open with 2009..
If you haven't already, NOW may be the time to start thinking about (planning for) your 1099 tax form...=)
For all it's worth, harvest out your worthless or poorest performing stocks before the window closes on January/01/2009 !!!
For those stocks you can't sell, (Due to ZERO BIDs), ..>=^} ...contact your broker(s) and have them exchange (sell) the whole lump-sum out of your portfolio, for you.
The resulting sale value (Paid to you) is usually around a penny..>8^>... regardless of what you've originally paid in its entirety.
However, the total of what ever you've originally paid, (less one penny)..>9^>.....is then a "REALIZED" loss and therefore claimable.
For this service there's a brokerage fee. The amount is broker specific but usually around 1/2 the trading commission.
Be that it may, If you didnt do this, then your capital losses are "UNREALIZED" and therefore unclaimable for the tax year of 2008, IN 2009
..>6^>
NOTE:
Tax Claims of this nature has a max of about $3000 per filing year with the difference carried over until the total tax loss claims are completed.
IF you've made capital gains on stock sales, on which you'll be OWING taxes...>=^}... Difference of Claims of previous tax losses, still due you, will likely offset taxes you may owe on your capital gains....=).
Hell, if I was uncle sam, I'd finagle a way to raise the PPS on the last week before the year ends so that all the accumulated stringed-along Bag-holders, (who'll likely claim there losses for which I'd be reimbursing)....>B^(..., will then Turn flipper and will owe ME,, heh! heh! heh!... >=^D.....OOPS!!......>=^o
Actually we'd both make out...>8^)... They'd owe me a comparatively small percentage in taxes, but the majority of their capital gains may likely afford them BIG state of the arts toys...}B^)... and jump start the economy...>=^}......(then I wont have to)...>6^}
Hey!,, even the government can dream...=)...LOL!
Part of me believe that this STOCK may actually rise sometime next year as the Economy bottoms out and starts on the up-swing (as it always does)
The other part of me is a wishful thinker...=)
Oh, by the way, are we back at No BID and .0001 ASK? -LOL!
Figures....>=^B
OOPS wait,,, let me refresh.(Click-Click)......NOP!... still the same -LOL!
Oh I get it,,that don't count cause the market is stil open...>6^>
oooooKaaayyy,,, I'll be back after it closes today..
..>8^}
NOW TRADING DAY 16 of 45....>8^{.......and counting..>=^{
HGLC Now Trading Day 13 of 45 and counting..>8^}
(This is a bet that within 45 days from PR back on 12/05/08, {after enough shares are sold} there will likely be a PR release explaining why nothing went as planed.)
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Corrections Review:::
,,,, In my last post, #12429, where I referenced symbol LLGO,,
that was a typig error,, I meant to type symbol FFGO..
-as having current custody of the Treasure King Mine.
*************************************************************
Now back to HGLC
>8^}
LOL! another day of trading and PRESTO!!,, we're BACK at the '.0001's,, as predicted -LOL! (From last week) -LOL!
BUT,, all may not be lost..
>6^>
I'm researching more info regarding the 180,000 tons of GOLD that was alledgely surveyed as being still in the ground at the "Treasure King Mine." that was OWNED by GWGO, -who's name has since been changed to FFGO.. Which amazingly sits currently at .0001/ASK and NO BID. Volume about 10'billion at today's closing.
(I only mentioned FFGO here simply because FFGO and HGLC are fundamentally LINKED)...
>6^>
Now, all this 'DD'ing, has brought me to a cross-road..>=^o
With this new found knowledge regarding the alleged "PLOT OF GOLD",, in their custody, should I lock in on a dismissible lotto play? between the two? or Laugh it off and wait....>B^{
I think I'll wait ..>8^}......Cautiously...>6^?...-LOL!
But, some of the things that Behooves me, are the following questions;
1
if all this gold is sitting in their mines,,, why did (Early-on) they do an R/S?
2
Were they raising the capital necessary to lease the machinery for the mining project?
3
When FFGO was trading in the .0004-.0009 were they generating the capital then?
4
When the Shares of FFGO was on a Buy-Back campaign, which caused a spike in buys of FFGO shares, was THAT capital used to fund the HGLC's Mockingbird project?
5
(Should I just toss in the towel on trading and take up knitting?).......L=^B
6
Was the increase in the O/S due to anticipating the number of likely buyers, (World Wide) that may jump on board if they announce their GOLD possession in one of their mines in 2009?
7
Is the PPS of either FFGO / HGLC being held down in the .000's until the start of a new year's run in 2009?
ALL these questions and more I'm asking and researching accordingly....
PLEASE FEEL FREE "ANYONE" to join in and give answers...=)
NOW TRADING DAY 13 of 45....>8^{.......and counting..>=^{
Thanks Grinchster5, Currection of HGLC's alleged Gold Mine...>6^>
(And Hello everyone)..=)
However, Grinchster5, in response to your response, >6^)
... to the comment I've made, as you've Re-Quoted;
I gather there remains about 180,000 TONS of gold still in the ground -LOL!
and then you respectfully responded with;
~~~I respectfully correct your statement...
there's 180,000 tons of ore in the ground with a
potential of 0.065 oz gold per ton of ore.
Even lumb can’t pump that.
I like your comment though -LOL!
...>6^>
I must respectfully counter respond with the following,
which is from my POST 12412; http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=34366325 , to which you're responding...
>6^>
-LOL!
Treasure King Mine.
This gold deposit is about 1.5 miles south of the Pocahontas mine...>8^}...
It was originally located by Homestake and was later drilled out by Redco and then Royal Gold in the 1980’s. Redco fully permitted the mine for operation as an open pit heap leach facility and sold it to Royal Gold, which never opened it. The proven resource is 180,000 tons @0.065 oz/T gold.
The above, by the way, was copied from here;
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_/ai_n26781191 and found on other places/links on the GOOGLE search.
From this, I postulated that if Royal Gold bought the Mine, but never actually opened it FOR Mining, then, the report stating the so-called "proven" -(Notice it didn't say Potential....>6^>....) resource is 180,000 tons @0.065 oz/T gold, may need to be concidered.
(BUT, credibility is this alleged finding, should be further validated)
Be that it may, it's likely safe to say that since no mining has reportedly taken place, in that particular spot, as it changed ownerships though-to the FINAL custody OF -> LLGO, (HGLC--*Wink-*Wink), the GOLD must then...
..>6^>...
..Still be there... (further research pending)
-This was the POINT, I had "Gathered" from the DD.
..>=^)
Which is a GOOD thing,, actually.
..>9^B
BUT then again, I may still be wrong and not afraid to admit to that possibility.
..=)
HGLC Regarding PR as of 12/22/2008 >=^7
Hello all, Yeah I know, It's way past the "Late Afternoon" time...>=^} -LOL! and um,, I got a lil carried away as I stared at my finger nails..=)
However, Per reading the PR here -> http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Hunt-Gold-Corporation-932505.html
In terms of HGLC, Drilling Resumptions (as they called it) will resume by January 10.
Per the following from the PR;
The 2009 "Mockingbird" Gold Project drill campaign will begin on January 10, 2009, once the Tonatec drillers have completed their annual Mine Safety and Health Administration (MSHA) and OSHA certification training.
The drill rig will be moved to the Dandy Gold Mine at that time.
Hmm, now who the hell are the "Tonatac Drillers"..?=^s..
I found info on them here http://www.tonatec.com/photos.html (I think)..
TonaTec Exploration, LLC
1645 North 500 West
Mapleton, UT 84664
Tel: (801) 446-2400
Fax: (801) 446-3940
And also recalled them being awarded the contract from one of HGLC's Past PR's -here -> http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/081118/0453592.html
OK, AH!..>6^p
So then I wanted to know about the Acronym OSHA and found; "Occupational Safety & Health Administration"
-(For those who give a damn...>8^}... can read up on it here ->http://www.osha.gov/as/opa/2008EnforcememtData120808.html , found on http://www.osha.gov/ page.)
OK, AH!..>6^p
But then after re-reading the PR where it states; NEW YORK, NY--(Marketwire - December 22, 2008) - Hunt Gold Corporation (PINKSHEETS: HGLC) confirms the successful completion of its 2008 drilling program at its "Mockingbird" Gold Project in Arizona.
I thought, weren't they already certified when they dug the first 6 holes?...>=^D...-LOL!
-OOPS!..wait a sec,... >9^>... they DID say "annual"...
ooookaaaay, that must mean their training certification expires at the 1st of each year...
>6^>
So then the next question is, -WHEN...>8^}... will they complete their training following the "Drilling Campaign Resumption Date" (01/10/09)...>6^>..
Whereas, according to the PR, "The drill rig will be moved to the Dandy Gold Mine at that time"....
>B^D
(Awww here we go,,-LOL.. Planting the Excuse seeds well in advanced -LOL!...I can hear it how...-LOL!...um,, we're still waiting for their training to complete..-LOL!..no no no,, wait,,, here we go, um, -LOL!... the dog ate the training books and copies are on back order ROFLMAO! )...Let me stop -LOL!
OK,, so the RIG wont be moved to the drilling site until the MSHA / OSHA Re-Certification / Training is completed by the drilling team.
Aright, let's log that....zzZZz..z....z...ZZzz..z...z...Wake me the day after zz...z..z.ZZZ..z....z...>3^>
Now about the Tonatec folks who provided this Boart Longyear LF 70 Drilling Rig......>=^o..
What in Deep Root Canal hell is THAT! .. ?x^S
So I looked it up, here's the Tech Spec of a matching Drilling RIG being used. http://www.boartlongyear.com/c/document_library/get_file?folderId=40102&name=DLFE-2402.pdf
OK, AH!..>6^p
If I may further recall from the PR;
Hunt Gold Corporation's CEO, Mike Saner, stated that, "The drill campaign has been extremely encouraging on both the geological and mineralogical levels. All of the first six drill holes appear to have intercepted the altered and mineralized zones. First at the Pocahontas Gold Mine and then at the Great West Gold Mine. We are looking forward to resumption of drilling next year at the Dandy Gold Mine, where past sampling has indicated some of the highest gold grades for the 'Mockingbird' Gold Project."
*** If my DD serves me well, It appears that at some time in the past, under some previous ownership, this Pocahontas Gold Mine, for starters, was discovered as having the following, Per info extracted from http://www.minemarket.com/TreasureKing.htm from a google search.
However, because the Author remains unknown, read and heed accordingly.
Pocahontas Claim Block. These claims follow another anomaly to the SSE of the Main Copper Mountain Claim Block for over two miles. There are copper oxide outcrops along the trend. Values in one sample, from the Pocahontas #2 Open Cut, were .03 oz/T Au, .45 oz/T Ag and .7% Cu. The southern portion of this claim block contains the once-productive Pocahontas gold mine, which is actually a polymetallic deposit. One sample from the Pocahontas dumps was anomalous in all metals tested: Au (.014 oz/T), Ag (1.25 oz/T), Cu. (.2%), Pb (.3%) and Zn (.4%). Anomalous gold samples were also found by Royal Gold in the central portion of this claim block to the east of the prominent "Jagged Tooth" chert ridge outcrop.
Treasure King Mine. This gold deposit is about 1.5 miles south of the Pocahontas mine...>8^}... It was originally located by Homestake and was later drilled out by Redco and then Royal Gold in the 1980’s. Redco fully permitted the mine for operation as an open pit heap leach facility and sold it to Royal Gold, which never opened it. The proven resource is 180,000 tons @0.065 oz/T gold.
Not to Mock the Mockingbird,..>6^B... but, DID they Miss? -LOL!.. by 1.5 miles? -LOL!
WELL.. actually,,, they DIDN'T.... (The wonders of DD) -LOL!
when I researched the where with-all, regarding the "Treasure King Mind", I FOUND the following; http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_/ai_n26781191
Notice the lead topic, which says, "Great West Gold, Inc. - Acquisition of the Treasure King Gold Deposits
So then when I plugged in "Great West Gold, Inc", I found it's Trading Symbol to be GWGO..
I thought, HEY! why not see what they're trading at...
When I Plugged in GWGO, I got "FORTRESS FINL GROUP INC" -Who's Trading symbol is FFGO -LOL!
-who HAPPENS to be the sister (or brother) of Your's Truly.... HGLC!!! -LOL!
Why the lil-Sneaks...>6^>... -LOL!
Therefore, if I'm reading the discovery SPECS correctly for the Treasure King Mine or is it Great West Gold, Inc, no wait, it's actually now Fortress Financial Group, Inc... (or is that Hunt Gold,,*Wink-*Wink), I gather there remains about 180,000 TONS of gold still in the ground -LOL!
Well I'll be DAYUM!!!!!
These ssssSssSSssssSNnnnnnnnNEAKY Bastards -LOL!
Amazing that HGLC,,,just HAPPENS to have custody of an alleged Gold Mine that's 1.5 miles South of Treasure King Mine, which just so HAPPENS to be in the custody of FFGO who HAPPENS to have a pig-load of shared in HGLC -LOL!
Let's see now, how may I combine the two, then create a NEW Acronym for them..
Hmmm, F.F.G.O.H.G.L.C...Hmmmm...AH!!!
Fortress Financial Group Occupants Has Gold Locations Conceiled.... -LOL!
Now I've seen everything. ROFLMAO!!!
For all I know, they already done dug up the dayum gold and aint saying NOTHING to nobody about it..
Damn Closet Tycoons -LOL!!
I guess they must be waiting for 2009 to release the Explosive PR,, But in the meantime, I wouldn't doubt they're lining the living hell out of their own pockets....First!. -LOL!
Now, about the REST of the PR, The fifth hole was collared at the Great West Gold Mine *wink-*Wink..>9^>...on December 17, 2008, approximately 100 feet downhill and on strike with the fourth hole. It was completed on December 19, 2008 following an unusual snow storm that closed area roads, as well as Las Vegas McCarran Airport. It was drilled at a 60 degree angle and intercepted the brecciated zone between 100 feet and 110 feet. There was significant iron oxide overprint as well as silicification. In a very encouraging development, pervasive fracturing with iron staining was found at local intervals both upholder and down hole from the target zone. The hole was terminated at a depth of 155 feet, which is approximately 100 feet down dip from the surface expression of the vein.
The sixth hole was drilled from the same drill pad as the fifth hole, but at a steepened angle of 75 degrees. It was expected to encounter the altered and mineralized zone at a depth of 140 feet, which would have been 150 feet down dip from the vein at the surface. Instead, the hole intersected the target zone at a depth of 118 feet to 128 feet. This is again suggestive of listric faulting, which is a typical characteristic of detachment fault gold deposits like the Mockingbird gold deposit. The altered and mineralized zone was brecciated and iron stained, with some silicification. The hole was terminated at a depth of 185 feet on December 20. Toward the bottom of the hole significant pyritization was encountered in an aphanitic rock unit, which will also be submitted for assay.
Cores from all six drill holes are in the process of being split, and being forwarded to Jacobs Assay in Tucson, Arizona. Chain of custody standards are being observed throughout the process. Assay results are expected in mid January 2009.
Forwarded to Jacobs who?...>=^o...DAYUM!..now who the hell is this person..
So I looked it up..
Jacobs, Michael G.
Jacobs Assay Office
1435 S. 10th Ave.
Tucson, AZ 85713
520-622-0813
Fax 520-622-3845
Fire assay for gold and silver, base metals, electronic scrap, bullion
and metallurgical products; sales of used laboratory equipment;
bilingual in Spanish with experience in Mexico and South America
Found here -> http://www.admmr.state.az.us/Info/assayers.html
And also listed among consultants here, -> http://www.mines.az.gov/Publications/d50-Consultants.pdf
Hmmmmm.. Something's not right here...>8^(
I think there's something wrong with my computer connection...76^{...everything is checking out...>=^(
Must be a new Virus or something..>6^{....
Why am I seeing a light at the end on this tunnel?...>B^{
I'll return after I scan my computer for possible tampering....>6^>
The PR reminds me of the HOOK tactic used by the "Publisher's Clearing House" -LOL!
Whereas, each time your alleged "Winning Date" approaches, they steer you (or pump you) AWAY from that date to another, several months out as the "NEXT" Winning Date ti plan for. -LOL!
I mean like, what happened to all that pumping in the last PCH letter regarding the drawing date now just days away? -DId I already not get selected as a winner? -OH,, I'm sorry, that was only a HYPE-RUN just to sell all the products from the ads crammed into the envelope.
However... I'm observing with one eyebrow up.
And...
WE'RE AT TRADING DAY 12 of 45...>8^{.....and counting....>=^{
P.S. Always remember to do your OWN "DD" and form your OWN opinion accordingly.....>6^>
>B^{
HGLC Now Trading Day 12 of 45 and counting..>8^}
(This is a bet that within 45 days from PR back on 12/05/08, {after enough shares are sold} there will likely be a PR release explaining why nothing went as planed.)
Yaaaaaaawn!
>=^)
I think my previous post# 12343 about sums it up here -LOL!
(( http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=34325379 ))
Like reading a script -LOL!
LOL!
I must leave at this moment, I happen to take a peep while passing through..>=^)
but I'll return later this afternoon with a follow-up regarding today's PR release.. -LOL!
Besides,, the market it still open..>9^p..
Still time to recover -LOL!
........*Wink-*Wink! -LOL!
NOW TRADING DAY 12 of 45....>8^{.......and counting..... >=^{
HGLC Trading Day 11 of 45 and counting..>8^}
(This is a bet that within 45 days from PR back on 12/05/08, {after enough shares are sold} there will likely be a PR release explaining why nothing went as planed.)
"Well Well Well", (in the voice of 'pin-nead' from the movie 'Hell Raisers'), "Now what's on the agenda today.......AH!.. an unusual closing.
- I wonder what 'TICK' bit you on yo-lil-ASK..>6^>... before closing UP, at '.0003'"
"How daaare, intelligence be insulted with a closing of this nature to chew on over the week's end...-Nice move...>9^)"
"....I'll give you that much.."
*After weeks worth of bouncing between '.0001' and '.0002', HGLC conclude with it's ASK at '.0003'...>=^]}
.... (notice only after the market closed *wink-Wink)
-Then comes the next day of trading, after those BUYS on the '.0003's, Via the PR chewed-on over the weekend, discovers a DOWN-Tick Back to the '.0002's -LOL! or most commonly, the '.0001's HAHAHA! (This is gonna be fun to watch on monday)...>8^}
-OR-, HGLC may actually be breaking away from chasing its own tail (.0001-.0002-.0001-.0002-.0001-etc) and start moving - Forwards. .0003+-??
Quite an "implied" turning point in the works..=)
"But, if you are playing games with me'eee, or if this is another one of your Tricks'sss, then your reputation'nnn, will be legendary'yyy,, EVEN IN HELL'LLL..."
(Damn I love that "Hell Raiser" movie)
and ahh?.. what do we have here,,I noticed out of all the pinks in it's class, throughout the entire IHUB universe, HGLC is at the top of the list as the most highest traded STOCK.
HGLC seems to have created quite an Exchange of interests...>8^>...For itself.
speaking Volumes ..>9^p.....hmmmmmm..
Impressive!
However, being that we've been down this road before, I'm willing to bet all this glory will be "SHORT" lived...>8^>
Well, That is, unless by the luck of a 4-leaf clover given from a leprecon, HGLC actually discovers the 'PLOT" of GOLD. ..>8^}
Be that it may, (According to relatively recent PR's) I gather from all the Ground Breaking updates,..>6^>.. HGLC has become quite in-"DEPTH", with Golden Opportunities, Vectored by several degrees, on many points... >=^p..I guess that means, HGLC has an angle....>=^]}.......LOL!
NOW TRADING DAY 11 of 45....>8^{.......and counting..... >=^{
HGLC Trading Day 10 of 45 and counting..>8^}
TODAY (Making 11'th Trading day) wont count since the market isn't open yet...>9^}
(This is a bet that within 45 days from PR back on 12/05/08, {after sold shares quota is met} there will likely be a PR release explaining why nothing went as planed.)
Is the digging Fool's Gold or a Gold in one on the GOLF (of course)...>=^}
If I may recall a past PR release;
NEW YORK, NY--(MARKET WIRE)--Dec 15, 2008 -- Hunt Gold Corporation (Other OTC:HGLC.PK - News) confirmed today that it has completed its second drill hole at its "Mockingbird" Gold project in Arizona. The drill hole was located at the Great West Gold Mine a few hundred yards uphill from the first drill hole at the Pocahontas Mine. Almost from the beginning of the hole, the core exhibited spider web stock work fracturing with intense iron oxide staining. At 73 feet of depth argillic alteration was encountered. The strongest zone of mineralization was from 83 feet to 100 feet. Alteration continued to a depth of 113 feet, and there was spider web iron-stained fracturing, on and off, until the hole was terminated at a depth of 154 feet.
Given the potential for disseminated gold mineralization, core from intervals throughout the hole will be submitted for assay, not just core from the visibly altered and mineralized zones. The assay work will be done by Jacobs Assay of Tucson, Arizona by an assayer registered with the State of Arizona Board of Technical Registration.
I like the play of words here regarding the the imbedded phrase, "disseminated gold mineralization"
Now let's take these apart.
Disseminated: -spread around; widespread; spread over a wide area of the body
Gold:: -Ditto.
Mineralization: -In geology, mineralization is the hydrothermal deposition of economically important metals in the formation of ore bodies or "lodes".
So, GOLD 'its-self' is not actually found, just its "BASE MATERIAL"...>9^p
In other words, I smell a stake cooking on a grill - Although I don't actually 'see' it, I can smell it so it must be near by...>8^} --LOL!
NOW TRADING DAY 10 of 45....>8^{.......and counting >=^{
and NO, I'm not bashing as I don't do that. -BUT, I've simply had enough with these well worded PR that go nowhere.
OK, OK, must give credit where due, at lease we're being "Informed" of alleged drilling activities, of some kind.
What annoys me is where and how it all ends is usually a lot worst than all the talk along the way.
Through it all, I'll say, if gold is actually discovered from the drillings, this stock will likely go supernova.
The current economy is RIPE for this to happen as countless millions of people are scared (portfolio) -stupid as to where to put there investments.
Since GOLD is a universal Language (World Wide), HGLC's announcing Discovery of gold in their wells will likely draw world-wide attention, likely having buyers climbing over each other to get in.
Flippers would be flapping their wings all over the place.
And if there are shares being dumped on this stock, those 'Dumpstes' may need one hell of a commode to flush all their crap...>8^},,, to keep the PPS down.
Hunt Gold would be on the HOT STOCKS list and would likely out flame the fires in hell.
the down side is that many investors in at '.0001' would go into cardiac arrest from all the excitement.
BUT, in the meantime, it should not be surprising that the PPS is Bouncing between '.0001' and .'.0002'.
This is an old (dated) Pink trick.
Buyers buy in at '.0001' -(PPS may float here to allow the opportunity)
As buyers taper off, it jumps to '.0002'. -This "Virtually" doubled the initial investment at ".0001".
Investors sees the Dollar Doubling in their Portfolios and get a sense of HOPE.
But it's all false. -As those gains are "unrealized" until their SOLD at the higher PPS price.
Market Manipulators are "Careful" to not exceed '.0002' on the ASK with the BID at '.0001'
IF the ASK went to '.0003' for example, chances are the BID may become '.0002'. -This then opens up the channel for flippers to take profits on their initial BUY at '.0001'
Betting that the majority of investors who bought at '.0001' wont likely sell at '.0001' as they await the BID to be higher, chances are they'll just HOLD.
Meanwhile, those who "SEE" '.0001' are sold out and the pps now at '.0002', may gamble that the PPS is going yet higher and then will BUY the '.0002's
However, the SELLERS of company shares are the ones who's really profiting here.
The PPS on the ASK never goes past '.0002' which locks down the previous '.0001' ASK -buyers from selling on a likely '.0001' BID.
the NEW BUYERS on the '.0002' ASK, becomes the new bag-holders when the PPS locks THEM in when it falls back to '.0001' which then puts them at 50% of their initial investment. -BUT, gamble has it that they'll ADD to their shares on the ".0001" ASK.
This gives a false sense of security under the assumption that they'll now buy twice the shares for the same cost purchased at '.0002'.
The LOGIC is correct, however, they'll likely NOT achieve their anticipated profits because the PPS never goes high enough to do so and there in lies the Paradox -LOL!
Another issue to consider is that as more and more Buyers BUY-IN and become LOCKED-IN under this Paradox, the Higher the Likelihood of a Reverse Split to recapture the eventual VAST number or shares collected amongst countless Bag-holders.
uh'hu...>=^p
Either this or the said company may risk quite a lost in their net worth from all the bag-holders selling their shares and taking profits.
OR, if the said company is HOT enough, (i.e.-HGLC Strikes GOLD) they'll likely WIDEN the BID/ASK spread so that New comers getting in on the ASK would likely be paying for bag-holders taking profits at the BID and the said company would less likely suffer relative capital challenges during the process.
After the bag-holders are done taking profits, the BID/ASK spread tightens and the company is likely sustained as growth continues on further big-'ASK' ...>9^}....Share Buys.
All being said, (to this point) and given the state of the economy, if HGLC play their cards right and truly believe they're on to something with all their diggings, they can literally take the market by a storm.
I mean, if I truly believed I'm on to a golden discovery, I'd be knee deep in that hole with a shovel along side that drill bit.
With the current Market turmoil, I'd see this as a once in a lifetime opportunity to stake a major claim in the Market hall of fame.
People, World-Wide are seeking places to put their money,, I'd be among their choices!
WELL HGLC?,,,, you're ON!!
I'm going to see what's up with your plans.....
OH AND UM,,, ABOUT THAT HGLC WEBSITE!! -Wink-Wink...>9^}
ADCS. Yaaaaawn. Today's PR is Pointless.>8^7
Too much has happened to too many people to make a difference here.
They can play musical chairs all they want..
The history tells all and many have lost money because of it..
As soon as the PPS is high enough to Flip and get my money back,, the better..
THEN (and only then) we can talk about changes and/or new ideas and what not..
I've about had it with all these meaningless PR's and all these "We're please to announce" crap.
It's high time for some ACTION!
Which has yet to be seen to the benefit of investors..
No doubt that the prospects of this venture is plausible.
What's NOT plausible is all the losses from the games that are being played with "Other Peoples Money"
They had the whole plan in their pocket. All players were in position.. Things were HOT and all GREEN!!
Then suddenly... POOOF!!!
everything STOPPED and DISAPPEARED...
I'm not bashing as I dont do that, but I'm very unhappy with how the PR's Lead me to a brick wall without warning...
-Until it was too late.
>8^}
HGLC NOW @ TRADING DAY 5 OF 45, and Counting. ..>8^7
Since PR release as of 12/05/2008.
Yaaaaaaaawwwwnn!
This is a "Bet" that within 45 Trading Days, there'll be another PR Released with excuses as to why comments made in the last 12-05-2008's PR, flopped.
(as postulated from previous track records.)
Now,,, what's on the agenda today,,,,ah! A released PR?
hmmmmm....Let's see what it says ...
*mumble-Mumble*(http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=34113581) *mumble-Mumble*
-oh? really? drilling started? back on 12/10/2008? (Yesterday)... And what is this? an actual WEBSITE due up next week?
Wooooowh! this is getting good!....>=^}
Hmmm, wonder if I should fall for this and buy in... OOPS! what's that I see there? still in the tripple zero's are we? -LOL!
Awwww and look at that... have even bounced from '.0002' back to '.0001' as I form this post.
well now, that's very convincing now isn't it....>8^}
-LOL!
OH,, I get it, the rise in the PPS is likely to occur AFTER the results are in next year... Right?
-um, in January 2009? as stated in today's PR..Right?
Um,, careful now,, that's just weeks away...>9^}...and..um... still within my 45 trading day time-line before the next "OOPS" PR of why there's more delays and other excuses....>8^B...-LOL!
Wooooowa!,, this is gonne be fun....
Oh and um,,, remember,,, this is trading day Number "5" of 45....
>8^?
ROFLMAO!
(Shhhhhhhh... wonder what the website will look like next week..Wink*-Wink*) ;)
HGLC NOW TRADING DAY 2 OF 45, and Counting. ..>8^7
Since last PR release.
Yaaaaaaaawwwwnn!
This is a "Bet" that within 45 Trading Days, there'll be another PR Released with excuses as to why comments made in the last PR/12-05-2008 flopped.
(as postulated from previous track records, to most recent)
It'll likely be because of "Something" ELSE (again) that didn't go as planned.
In addition, let's see if there's Info./Results on Drilling due this week, as stated in PR Last week.
And-um,,,,about that WEBSITE.....um.....I'm still 'HUNT'ing for it....L=^p
OH Wait, it's only monday.
>8^}
HGLC,, AH! another PR today?..Yaaaaawn.. ok,,>8^7
Let's put the theory to the test..
I'm gonna give the plan laid out by Today's PR, 45 'Trading' days before another "OOPS" surfaces, then followed by another PR that informs us of "something" that didn't go as planned.
LOL!
AS OF THIS MOMENT,,, THIS WILL BE DAY "ONE" of 45
>8^}
SMWF Another PR?,, oh..Yaaaaaawn......>8^7
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Dr. Gadget Makes a Big Hit on 'Extra' Show That Aired Thanksgiving Day With Seamless Net Book
LAS VEGAS, Dec 02, 2008 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Seamless Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: SMWF) announced today that Dr. Gadget appeared on the "Extra" TV Show that aired on Thanksgiving Day. Dr. Gadget presented the SNBK-1, Seamless's Mini Net Book Computer of which several will be given away to individuals that sign up with "Extra" online. Dr. Gadget's presentation on "Extra" can be viewed at www.slwf.net.
"Dr. Gadget's appearance is part of the Seamless marketing campaign for the SNBK-1. This is our first major entry into the electronic retail market and the response since Dr. Gadget's appearance has been tremendous for the Mini Net Book," stated Ken Reda, Manager of Seamless Sales LLC.
About Dr. Gadget
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No offense but, these PR's are becoming more and more tiring.
Who the hell cares about this Dr, Gadget's Review of these things and all the "So-Called" ranting, raving and product praising.
Through all the Flairs and Fireworks, the PPS is stuck at '.0002' and even sat at '.0001' for a while.
The "POINT" of it all is the investment value.
The hell with everything else.
When all the smoke clears, all I see in my Portfolio is the value of this stock LOWER than what I started with.
If SMWF was into making Puzzles for planktons, then I can accept the current PPS.
Sure, I can legally blame the state of the economy, but, how can I use that excuse for SMWF, who has YET produce and/or sell their products off the shelves to qualify? -NOR are the "AWAITING" mail orders being filled...>8^}
-which reminds me, why are they quick to "GIVE THEM AWAY" more so than they are to "SELL" them to people who are 'Virtually" standing in line (With Cash In Hand) to PURCHASE THEM. -LOL! ..>8^}
I just don't get it but I'm sure it's something I'm missing... L=^)
Here's a question (Among many) I've yet to hear asked; -With all the Television ads, along with Dr. Gadget's 'Hands-On" demos, has the number of mail-orders (or Pre-orders) gone up? -By how much?
If NOT, then Investor's are being Conned.
However, if SO, then I'd be having sleepless nights at my LAB and or Production facility(s) getting those orders filled.
The motivator would be the fact that I'd have 'awaiting orders' of such grossly high quantities at about a thousand bucks a pop. -I mean like... H E L L' O!?!?
THAT would also be my bargaining collateral if not one hell of a security deposit for the lender(s), if so required.
How is Dr. Gadget getting paid for his Promotion of the S'Gens and/or the SNBK1... In Shares? -In Cash?
Who's funding this bill, the Shareholders?
SMWF has products that are ahead of it's time. The S'Gens, for example, being programmable also makes it capable of putting Star Trek's Handheld Devices to shame. YET, through all it's magnificent technological wizardry, SMWF drags their feet to "Physically" being them on-line.
But instead, goes on a 'teasing' campaign.
I'm hoping this is just the wind before the storm.
>8^}
overachiever -been your comments, aharfo56 -Dont beat yourself up on this one.
We've all had the seat of our pants kicked at some point which made us better investors.
(even a lot richer)..>8^}
All in not quite quite lost here, as I'll simply claim my losses on my next tax return.
Although the tax laws has it that filers can only claim up to $3000 per year of total capital losses with differences carried over to the next year's filings until the total losses are claimed, this is at least a 'CLAIM' to get SOME money back.
I'd rather 'THAT' than nothing at all, as it has been, prior to knowing that I could have done so all along.
Welp! -Better NOW than never.. =)
BUT, such doesn't come without a counterpart.
Whereas, had I've acquired 'Over-All' capital gains, then I've OWE taxes and that's the nature of the beast.
The some-what Scam'ish'ness of the Tax-laws is that when you LOSE, you can only claim up to $3000 of your losses but when you WIN, you owe taxes in full... LOL... they'll also spread 'THAT' over several years -LOL! with interests -LOL!
I guess it's true that the HOUSE always wins.
..>8^}
Oh and um,,, MODS/Admins?! um,, I'm hoping this is ON TOPIC as it relates to how one should handle losses incurred in this stock.
HGLC-Yaaawn..more Excuses,,as Predicted.
Sorry folks, but, As per my last comment here -> http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=33827600
Seems like it always ends up the same..
PR's that race you to the edge of your seats, then when the time approaches, OOPS! something went wrong and there goes the delayed dates..
Over and Over and Over.......
Oh well, as long as you can capture (or line your Pockets with) .0001% of the investors money, who cares about the remaining .9999% of investors that's not buying the game being played.
I've about had it with all these PR's.
Times are tough and it's TIME to SHOW ME THE MONEY
I have months worth of money tied up in this stock, (That since dropped in value to .0002/PPS) which should have otherwise gone to GM's stock, that has since gone from $1.70 to over $5 in about a week and therefore I've BLEW potentially thousands for the money lost and locked here, after foolishly following PR's that seems benefit those who released it, more so than those who invested because OF it.
Although I too have joined in cheering this stock on, I've also wondered what good is all the cheering if each time I peek at my portfolio, THIS stock moves either Sideways or Down along with a string of PR's that are filled with OOP'es, Rescheduling and cancellations.
Fortunately, the losses here, be they Realized or Unrealized, are well covered by overall capital gains I've since made in other stocks. -Whew,,,..
Good thing I didn't put all eggs in one basket on this one.
=)
HGLC Sorry but, Heard this PR before.
Sorry Guys/Gals but I'm not buying this PR release as I've heard it before.
The ole Projection Tactic.
And as as the date draws near, there's always some "other" thing that didn't happen and there goes the excuse to reschedule (Multiple times) or the so-called "DEAL" just cancelled all together.
However or whatever tactic may be used, the end results seem to always be the same.
Whereas, the only thing that's really gained was the proceeds from the sell of Shares($$$) lining every pocket except those belonging to the investors.
In no offense, I'll wait this one out 'FIRST'
If I missed this boat I'll just thank my lifeboat from all the boats I've previously sunk on and there will always be other boats.
>8^}
FNIX PR.Yeah-Yeah,Blaa-Blaa -But locked on .0001
I don't care about these PR's
What good is all the Hype and High ass Volumes if the PPS is locked at .0001
So what Apple endorsed them,, why should I get all excited for all that if the PPS never leaves .0001
I've given up reaching for the stars while falling in an endless pit.
I'M OUT!!!
when I see some "USEFUL" activities, I may buy back in.
Some said this thing spiked a $1 recently.. -I say that's a bunch of BS.
Assuming it really did, it was likely a piece of candy for the hopefuls.
Although I do agree that this company have a hell of a marketable product in their hands, But, I need to turn profits NOW! -not some damn years from now..
I've been in these pinks long enough to know how the game is played and lost a great deal while learning the "LONG-WAY" , but, NOT ANYMORE!
Lessons learned.. the "SHORT-WAY"
Most PR's and 8K's are worthless while others are pointless.
AT the bottom of every 'PR' you'll find the scapegoat "Safe Harbor act", (READ THEM), as they actually release these pinks from following through or being held accountable for whatever they say or print just to get their stinking shares sold.
WHICH IS WHY 90% of these pinks that FLIPS-in the market, later FLOPS-out of the market.
(They didn't come on-line with growth in mind anyways.)
-But rest assured, pockets are lined in the process, while mislead investors are left holding the bag... literally.
BUT FNIX seems like one of the good guys. (it's about damn time)
But this ticker being locked at .0001 PPS while ranking among the highest volumes throughout the entire Investor's hub universe, (Somtimes even at the TOP of that list) throughout weeks/months, behooves the hell out of me.
For that reason,, I've dropped out of this stock until further notice.