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Again...the message is a spin on the $14m...you must be desperate to buy back lower...did you sell your whole load of XXII on Friday?
MSA timing "paramount"...what, as in weeks? a mounth?... and "over dramatic" categorization again GIO...
XXII IS the "game-changer" within the industry and MSA unlocks all of XXII's technology...market will be looking at its "impact" on the awareness in the cigarette market, more than immediate short-term revenues as it rolls out. Keep an eye on the buzz...
Remember: Philip Morris study..."90% of smokers would try a low-nicotine cigarette" and smokers will know about XXII's VLN and VLT without advertising or noted on the pack.
The Point is it is not a "withdrawal" of confidence that XXII received from BTI $ and commitment of $14m spread over 3 years. Its not a year over year decline. It is just the opposite of a "sales" decline from year to year...as you are implying... not a weakness...but confidence by a major player in the tobacco industry of XXII's technology.
Obviously you have sold all or a portion of your holdings and are looking to buy back lower...
I realize you dont want to be transparent...but it is all too obvious. But in the meantime...try to be a little genuine about XXII's fundamentals....
"He who panics first wins" applies to when a stock is going to zero..."He who panics first loses" ... when it subsequently goes to multiples of what they sold it for. Of course weaker hands might know the game...and be dragged into the selling ... but that is what you are gaming on.
There is no doubt that many on this board are playing the "trading" game with a portion of their holding ... selling and trying to buy back lower before April 12th or whenever an announcement arrives...fine.
AND...going by your "standards" SPIHF should be .80, since they have reported no revenues to date (vs XXI solid revenue and virtually no debt)!
...Market (absent manipulation) reflects 6 months ahead!...lets see where we are after April 12th (or possible announcement before then)
BTI research revenues, were established in 2013...for 3 years out. Nothing cut in half or diminished.
...and again we have no statements from XXII that MSA acceptance has been delayed.
So it is presumed "on course", unless company states otherwise.
So let shorts pound it...We are going to have one hell of a short squeeze...and IMHO...and with XXII there will be NO GUESSING IF THERE ARE REALLY ANY SHORTS...
They have no idea what they are playing with, as well as the weak longs who fled. If they subscribed to HTFBS...and received the weekend update on XXII ... they would understand how financially suicidal (or "short" sighted) their trades will become...
Revenue Stream...humm...you mean besides $7M last year and $3.5 this year and the $3.5 next year...from British American Tobacco?
One thing you are missing ... the market SP (unmanipulated) anticipates the fundamentals playing out 6 months in advance...
The we will see what Management has to say about that on or before April 12th.
Jockin...XXII could not have asserted that they made "tremendous progress"...toward obtaining "consent" of NAAD (settling states) without having "applied for" consent in February or before. to close the NASCO Products acquisition.
Must we be reminded how big his will be?
"We believe the Company’s domestic brands will have tremendous advantages once they are subject to the MSA."
....And
Which tobacco producer would IMHO be the only one which could modify ALL of the "characteristics" of tar, nicotine, carbon dioxide, and HPHCs (harmful and potentially harmful constituents)in the tobacco plant?
Which tobacco producer will likely be the only one capable of meeting the "benchmarks" to produce for VLN and VLT and VLHPHC's?
How true Jockin...more crying and the stocks going to zero while the world ends!...usually a "bottom" signal.
Believe we will be very satisfied by April 12th... FDA wants XXII in the game...AG's have no doubt been informed of the "good tobacco" efforts of XXII. Bottom line AG's know what the FDA is doing with XXII and its studies etc. IMHO they also what the FDA WANTS...
If XXII isn't healthy and can't thrive... FDA cant do its tests or come up with its standards... XXII is a de facto partner with FDA.
Perfect sense for MSA acceptance Announcement....right after all the paper work at NAAG/MSA office has been completed.
Not concerned by foolish moves like "stops" traders put on their stocks ... just provided fresh opportunities for investors, who will be holding for the second run up and beyond...
maybe BTI want an equity piece (would love them as partners) then (Big boy against Big boy)...or just preparing for enough shares for more players, more demand for shares...
Its not uncommon to set up for "eventualities".
Once they (State Attorneys Generals) signed on to the MSA agreement, under NAAG...they delegated administration of the MSA agreement to the MSA "staff", who is charged the responsibility of:
"providing effective, fast and inexpensive methods of communicating among the Project and the fifty-two Settling States,"
Its a process "managed" by staff...IMHO...not sitting on the desk of one AG to be sign while he is on vacation playing golf in Hawaii...with another sloucher.
IMHO...approval request probably went out in February to all at the same time with recommendation (esp. from FDA) and it a matter of staff following up to get signatures...probably a 4 to 6 week process.
ps. The all want to get the pat on the back for bringing more revenue into their respective state...IMHO of primary importance is the revenue gravy train to continuing...
with 50sma $3.39...in a strong area...press release would help support also.
Ryboi...part of the problem is that some investors still putting in "stops" that MM's love to hit...eod Friday looks like two were hit when someone sold what looks like a "market order" and then it triggered another 2 "Stops" immediately for the plunge.
Some might not be aware that a "stop" is a "market order" dump, unless your trading platform provides for a "stop-limit" order... so you dont get sold out at "any price"...
But the real question is "do you know why you first invested" ...and company's opportunities? What has changed or not occurred as represented by the company?
Looking for "color" commentary from Company this week...before 12th...perhaps a Van interview?
Piranha...people on this board have thoroughly addressed your comments with posts throughout the board...
I would suggest you do some DD on your own by looking at the
iHub:http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/iBoxSearch.aspx?SearchStr=xxii
and catch up to speed...
Apparently Nasdaq will require $4 for 30 days within a 60 day window to qualify.
Crook...you are absolutely right...I expected them to push to 50SMA $3.39 area... major support ...picked up another 4.5K...at $3.41
patience.
Peter...I would not say you were wrong...SPIFFY has again diluted shareholders with another financing. While in the long run I expect it to be a positive move...
IMHO in the short run $5M financing is not positive news for SP appreciation.
Investors just have to tough it out here...while MM play their game or interim news comes out before April 12th Annual Shareholder's meeting.
(now we know why SPIFFY dropped yesterday...)
I think you are referring to the former HTFBS stock...this has only been on the recent consolidation for 6-7 days...with catalyst April 12th...the other on downtrend for 2 months
we will...not quit yet...but it will come...meanwhile IMHO time to add when you might be uncomfortable in doing so
MM are just going to probe the weak hands until there are none left. My order is in below for more who want to "give it up"...
assume it't Elliot Wave Theory
guess the Chinese can be very hospitable when they want to be. ;-P
Who said the board was closed today?...
Interesting discussion...it could be lethal if you also cultivate "I'm Entitled" complex
My daughter works for Dept of Navy (with TS clearance) High level...she indicated that the biggest problem they and their defense contractors have with new employees right out of college is the "entitlement" head they have for just showing up...
They have been "brainwashed" by our "leader/recent society" in the last 6 years to believe that since they are were hired ...they are "entitled"...vacations, pay raises to highest levels..etc...regardless of work or work product...and rules dont apply to them....
Thankfully first year is probation in Dept of Navy / Defense Department and 4 were terminated in her department recently...
They have started an indoctrination program.."This is real life...get used to it or leave"
You could be right...but I would bet you are wrong...with $3.72 being a very big support/pivot area which has been tested twice...yesterday and today (AM) so far...and MM know this...
IMHO...They also know the significant buying that would come in the closer would come to 50SMA...it might start an upward trajectory they done not want to stimulate at this point..
The VOL BUYING has been at the $4 mark so far today...very bullish
lol..."puking from my $1.60 purchases" last year...it will take a lot to make you puke now!
Dane...I am surprised at the vol to the upside right now...I expected very heavy orders under the pivot and at most sitting around 3.80's for investors to know it was safe to put their toes in the water...without MMsharks swimming around...
but vol. has been very bullish to the upside and investors seem not to be hesitant to step in here...
all very bullish...esp if we close above $4.00!
He forgot the rule...when you feel like vomiting ...time to buy...not sell
But lets face it, there are exceptions...but when you understand and believe in the fundamentals...it gives you the edge to hold on.
nothing is "forced" (or liquidated) without margin call involved..
pivot is strong support...area...for move to $4
bounced at the pivot area $3.72...couple of early panic sales on the open ...then up
pivot area is STRONG SUPPORT....
Held at strong support ($3.72)...yesterday, pivot in this area would add to strong support.
I just want the opportunity to say "no" to my children asking for a "billion-dollar trust fund"...(ok ... or even hundreds of millions TF)
very quiet this AM....
Making a big assumption that funds are available to cover...generally speaking ... a failure to cover means they dont have the funds...and are trying to "hold on" for a reversal...
otherwise if they did not want it they would sell it at the onset, rather than risk a "forced liquidation (sale)" (because of Margin Call)
That situation speaks more about a risky client investor than the company.
So what is the difference in impact of self-esteem or lack thereof through not having working for "inherited" monies and being "set" for life, and Obama's redistribution of wealth and subsequent "giving" of cash, food, housing and medical without the need to earn it? Its a double whammy ... they dont have to earn it and are deprived of building self-esteem and they are brainwashed into believing they deserve merely because they exist and demand it.
At least with passing on a XXII to offspring...somebody took a risk and did something constructive to get earn it and pass it on. At least the beneficiary can be proud of the provider and thankful.
Hey MG...thanks for the revelations...
Perhaps you can tell us where we can get those glasses where you can see everything so clearly in retrospect.
You certainly have an uncanny grasp of the obvious! ...and without even a memo...wow. I'm star struck!
and?...everyone on this board has been aware of it since reported.
you dont get a "forced sale" without being on margin and getting a "margin call", and not selling it voluntarily to meet the call on time.
MG, give me a break. If you believe that a margin call reflected a brokerages concern about the company, why would you be interested in buying it at any level. A margin call is made based upon pre-determined perimeters set by the risk department of the institution. Risk is based upon the trading history of a stock. When a stock has no history, they have to be very cautious because there is no statistical history upon which to base it's trading history. In other words, they keep the stock on a short leash and often reduce their margin risk when there are significant swings. Brokerages are not assessing the fundamentals of a company, but rather their exposure to trading patterns and possible losses. Your comments regarding margin calls might be misinterpreted as a reflection of the fundamentals of xxii rather than the manipulation by Market Makers and traders, resulting in possible losses.
lol...yes ditto