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Ren
nice post , but in order to clear this up in a see"clear" mode, it would be great if you could provide the board with the request that seeclear ask of you.... that would put down any unanswered questions as to the chapter 11 storyline... lets all see more clearly the light of day for our investments... because the powers controlling this "thang" sure aren't coming clean with any transperancy , that is for sure.... we will wait your response now, you wet our palets on this issue...
in my opinion
Imirish...
shorter
exactly, this is what needs to be done and should be done... I was wondering if we have an attorney on board here... if so please idenify yourself if you would.... maybe with an attorney, and accountant (cpa) we could start this process... they need to come clean with the share count, fundings of all deals and the 10 that is the story plain and simple...shorter please continue to post, I for one am very happy you did...in my opinion
Imirish...
shiz
u da bomb...
many thanks...
Imirish...
shiz
ya da man!
thanks
Imirish
shiz
as our now resident "best" by far chartist, could you give us a rundown on the chart thinking please...
by the way I do mean that with respect to your charting..
Imirish..
also
just to clearify , before someone that will not open there eyes on this calls me a basher... I bought more a couple of days ago ... a@ .0126 so I am net in a larger position than before... and do I want to see this go up "SOON", well yesterday is not "SOON" enough for me.... I am sick of this story, unknown as to real verifiable facts as most I bet everyone, but is there a posibility of a nice upward substained move, you bet ya... but until these so called management types stops using the money for every bling, bling that is for sale as an excuse to NOT FILE and ungag I am affraid we a stuck with a "NOT VERY SOON" stock.... and the so called management continues to get paid at our expense with no end in sight.... am long but willing to look at all sides.... and Mr.P being banded was a big mistake... it doesn't tone down the board in dumbs many things up.... I did not believe he was a good guy whatever that is here, but it was good to see someones thoughts... freedom is a great equalizer and freedom of speech is that outlet... just my opinion...
Imirish...
not directed to anyone here
but every company that hasn't done the right thing by its shareholders has a band of people automatically yelling "naked short selling".... this story is getting so old now that it has hair growing on it.... please, give me a break with this bs naked stuff already... it is a red herring here.... mulshine, if anyone doesn't know crys naked ones everywhere... he is a very smart guy , but he has yelled this story on every poorly run company with a failing pps.... with the exception of sdna... which I have been involed with for 12 years or so.... got out of it because not the naked shorting issue which has some problem , but the p i s s poor management that screwed that company... the blame here is not the naked problem it is the management that is not telling the transperancy story... it is that simple people.... things have gone on prekatrina and aftkatrina that begs an answer..and without pa and his gang of "soon" guys opening up the books and explaining the "REAL" story and past deals then this is what you have.... please, enough of this red herring... who in their collective "RIGHT" mind other than mm's naked for making a market would do this on a stock that has this pps... why , when this company is being sold to the investors as the next , shall I dare to say it "jack welsh's general electric conglomerate"... pleeeez, give it a rest... the story in my seeclear, midas , wetbehind , and others is they were selling shares and most probably have hundreds of millions of shares outside the normal structure to cover... bet ya.... all in my opinion...
Imirish...
seeclear
looks like my thoughts on hitting .0125 hit today... I bought an additional 150,000 shares today at .0126.... we will see clearer in days to come in my opinion...
Imirish...
seeclear
badda bing.... I just wonder how many here can understand now with your post what may have transpired with this push down of the pps for the last 7 months or so ... looks more clear to me... hmmm , but hasn't that been what a few have suggested for a time now...
in my opinion
nice post seeclear, midas would be proud of you and I agree with your PM...
Imirish...
Seeclear
U da man with midas, and stillwet also, there is one in south florida and his group that I will not name that has figured it out too.... not the florida pumper / dumper group.... it is his call to talk about his situation here as I will not give his personal details... but to say about 50 million shares or so...
in my opinion
Imirish....
mrdecember
my friend... I am sure you have seen the movie "Godfather"
well, there is one of the most important statements in that movie that I think we all need to remember
"keep your friends close, but keep your enemies "CLOSER"!"
something to consider when not wanting to hear the other side of the fence.... take care
in my opinion
Imirish...
Mulshine
heard that with him and his partner it is about 15mm
in my opinion
Imirish..
seeclear
you forgot me my friend ...
Imirish...
elsiecat
an example the people that wanted out of sljb just before the collapse...
I sold what was left of that junk, on a market order with ameriturd... made money ... also sold on the open, that time...
Imirish...
gn
From what I was told, that about 80 to 100 million are made up of 2 groups that purchased shares outside of those normal channels I have been talking about... now if your numbers are right then, which one of your own answers to the sharecount and where they are coming from is correct .... A or B on that chinese menu of yours... hmmm... bet I can speculate the answer , think about it ok? just my opinion...
Imirish..
Just an opinion
I don't understand why so many people want to ban Mr.P from this board.... to me the best thing one can do for our investment is to listen to "all" viewpoints, wheither they agree or not.... an open forum is always good.. just because some don't like what they hear doesn't neccessarily mean that they are wrong... no one is the answerman here ... we all need to listen and filter information ... and just because some think that he is not giving good info doesn't mean it is incorrect, that is the purpose of a messageboard to let the light of day into stocks that are less than transperant... heavens knows that this little gem is not telling us anything that we need to know of importance... I suggest everyone just chill on Mr.P and let him talk, if you don't like what he says, put on ignore, and let others that just want all sides read and judge for themselves his action, facts and motives... we all have motives, and mostly to move the pps up... so lets not forget that.... we all are adults and can judge for themselves, remember , pumping i.e. sljb , is just as bad and so called bashing is to an investment and should be treated with the same such judging eye in my opinion...just for the record here, I have a feeling that Mr.P is part of the florida group too... but I still want to listen to his thoughts...
Imirish...
obiwohn
just sit and put the catchers glove on frustration sometimes pays dividends...
in my opinion
Imirish..
obiwohn
it would be nice to see our expert chartist, shiz , and I mean that with great respect for your ability on this , call a pullback number... my guess is about .012 area... just my opinion , no expert but that looks to be the number... thoughts on this shiz....
in my opinion
Imirish...
obiwohn
depending on the amount you want... move it up that tinnie and see..
Imirish...
obiwohn
try .0152 for the heck of it... bet they fill..
Imirish..
mrdecember123
thankyou.. It is nice to see someone else here beside about a 1/2 dozen willing to at least explore this issue, I have and the facts as stated to me and a few others all jive... this is what was told to us... people need to understand that opening a dialog in an area that doesn't feel comfortable to their investment is very important to each individuals long term financial health ... the issue seems to be one and the same with everyone here, "ungagging and the 10", anyone with an open and honest mind will know that until those 2 things are done with complete unfettered transperancy then we will have a very difficult time moving upward "WHICH WE ALL WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN" .... so if mr.P is somewhat correct then could this be the answer that all have ask one time or another about the lack of transperancy in the share count... is this the silver bullet so to speak, who knows only the management knows for sure why... but could this be plausable, you bet ya it could be.... wishing things away or poo pooing the information and any postibly neg. info is not a smart or prudent thing to do...protecting our hard earned cash is the only thing important... look at the sljb situation as an expample of the few that called that a scam or something didn't add up and called people a basher wish now they would have listened for sure.... I for one played that as a scam and made some money, it just didn't add up, but this company seems for now for real... in saying that it is time to open the books and ungag and let the light of day make the decision now for our investment... soon the time will pass if this isn't done in a very short time to come... I cannot and will not expose these people, it is up to them... believe me or not is up to everyone here, but some know the story... I am long and have been sinse katrina, and will hold for now...
all in my opinion...
Imirish...
low
Mr. P is one of about a 1/2 dozen that have either talked to or know of preKatrina sells up to about 4 months or so ago give or take, from the company directly through an individual that were sold to these investors through not the normal way... I have spoke to a couple , and it will be up to others to step up and tell their own story... will it matter, if what Mr. P says is in fact true , it could, but who really nows... in saying this they have the right to expose this information to us or not, it is up to them... why they choose so far not to is unknown to me... fear, or just don't want to get involved with the issue at this time... like I said it is up to them to tell their story not me... how many shares is not exactly clear but the info that was told to me looks to be in the many millions of shares at a discount to the market at the time... this is what I was told through those people... make of it as you want , and in saying this I am still here with a nice position... we will see...
in my opinion
Imirish...
Mr.P
you take on why the stock is moving... please...
Imirish..
gn
made only about 4k on sljb, playing it as a scam...
Imirish..
interesting conversation
on another ihub board...
just thought all here should read... for what it is worth
Posted by: partysasquatch
In reply to: asus who wrote msg# 215 Date:12/28/2006 3:20:13 PM
Post #of 279
Chad is directly attached to Ayeman/Omar who fed everyone the audit information. Ayeman/Omar claimed to be Wessal's attorney and hand delivered the books to PWC and delivered the audit to Petar. All of which is bull cookies! Now after this fact is out, Chad takes another tire recycling company public here. This is the third tire recycling. Intec, Intech, and now this one.
I REPEAT: NO ONE DOES DEALS WITH THE PEOPLE THAT SCREWED THE SLJB INVESTORS UNLESS THEY ARE PART OF THE SCAMMERS.
A logical person would not work with Ayeman/Omar after he faked the PWC audit for months. Ayeman/Omar is the accountant for Kore International that DeVries is an officer with. The officers of Kore have many names in common with Nannaco. Obviously, Chad does not care (because he is the scammer and knew all along).
Just stating a few things you overlooked in your post.
Party
Holiday best to everyone
especially to fmi, gn, shiz, mastercraft... wish you guys the best!!!!
and if midas, seeclear, wet behind the ears are reading this, a very very special best to you and yours for the holidays... and the up coming new year... lets all hope that we can put this pain behind us and move on together with open minds and hearts for a prosperous future for all reguardless of our differences... hopefully the person attacks will stop for all...
Mr.P. to you continue to post your thinking, it is useful and welcome here... I enjoy listening to all sides and good luck in whatever your side is...
everyone have a great year
"In my opinion"
Imirish...
shizoku
as suspected, you missed the point of my post totally... oh well, you can lead a .... you know...
In my opinion, because that is all we really have , there are no absolute concrete facts here to back anything at all by anyone on this little gem... until the t/a is ungagged and the deals/sharestructures are made public and the 10 is filed of course...
Imirish..
seeclear
of course midas should be here... he was very valuable here...
Imirish...
fmi81
" conspiracy."
my friend, and being a unbias mod... you should have used
"in my opinion" on that part of your post...
there is more under the surface here, if you choose to not see"clear" the story on why our pps had a chinese water torture treatment then that is fine... but because you choose to look the other way on some signs of issues here, then calling it a conspiracy is only "your and some others opinion" and not a fact... thanks... we will keep looking for the bottom line here...
in my opinion....
Imirish...
Hey
mac44, back to you... you have a grasp of ... hmm
Imirish...
gn
also, that was a classy thing to do to undelete the post... thanks..
Imirish..
gn
I stated, the arbitrary, deletion of posts is what is the problem.... using unfettered power to delete is wrong... and you stating that you would do such...
judging by some private messages I get and some responses not everyone is buying the story you have suggested... we need an open forum and evidence is only opinions as everyone here has offered... we have no facts on anything as to the real structures of the deals, the real share counts or anything, other than some physical structures, nothing concrete so to speak.... so we all are adding opinions, not facts... so in your words everyones post should be deleted... never said I have anything on you... never... as to the xfiles thing... there is more here than meets the eye ... and some know it.. stopping free exchanges of ideas and digging for the reason for the terrible pps is a good thing not a bad thing... what are people afraid of ...
in my opinion...
Imirish...
realperson
only one response to your post,
"duh" to you
Imirish...
whilrligig
my friend.... I have heard upward of 40 to 60 million shares sold by our friend in south florida... or is it through him...
in my opinion it seems that there is a group of people here that are willing to accept blindly anything from the company and their collective mouthpieces from this and ragingbull board.... it amazes me the sheep mentality of people when it comes to their money.... blind faith is not the answer... your pps is telling you something else has happened here or is happening that most everyone is unwilling or too blind to even look at.... I have seen this thing in many other terriblily managed companys... some out of business and some with there stocks pps so broke down never to recover... I and a few here want to open a dialog for the truth instead of some of the blind here are saying sell, move on, everything is great, the company will shoot to the moon, undervalued, bashers and yadda , yadda , yadda.... well, I will , with the help of some others here will continue to dig for what is underlying this pps mess.... and using the delete button by some to curb questions and answers that may ruffle some feathers is wrong and doing a disservice to many new and old investors here... think about that people... all in my opinion...
Imirish...
gn
that is not what I am hearing about how and where the shares are from....
he is the go between that is the story told...
in my opinion
Imirish...
seeclear
call me.... a.s.a.p ...
Imirish...
gnulnx
make some calls to south florida to a guy named c. brown, "no insinuation that anything was done incorrectly at all, and maybe some answers will be forcoming... ask one question, did he in the past year or so sell shares to private investors and at a discount ... or not.... so far I have heard this from a couple of investors, and I would bet a number of people here and on ragingbull board have heard the same thing, they must decide to join the forum here and tell it like it is.... this is not my place to name them.... and I will not.... but this is from there words .... I suspect they are very honest truthful people and I am not doubting there sincere words... take it for what it is worth.... all in my opinion and not stating anything was done wrong with this at all, just for dd only and not any other purpose.... and discusion as to the dramatic plunge in the pps of our little gem....
bingo Mr.P
that is what is suspected going on... now we have another "clearer" idea people... listen
In my opinion...
Imirish...
gnulnx
the problem with this is there is no real word other than short.... could be called something like private sale recovery or something like that.... open your eyes man...
in my opinion..
Imirish...
people
listen to this guy... there is something here... even mulshine from what I heard in the past doesn't understand why they will not release the t/a... rumored of course... hmmm... open your eyes to some that have been checking... here... it is not hard to see who they are the diggers... all in my opinion of course
Imirish...