Helpful....as always an outstanding post! Thanx for all you do, I wish you and the hole Wave community a happy new year!

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GG.......thanx, already loaded for the ride to 2 at least!

Happy new year all

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Micro......consumer side. Yes you are right when you see a potential in the consumer front. In the future EVERY PC, notebook will be shipped with TPM management software, similar to AntiVirus packages. But there has to be an INSTALLED enterprise base FIRST, to enable TRUSTED services. Once the service providers (bank, online shop etc.) deliver trusted services, the client has to have an activated TPM with software. And Alea, Wave has already the necessary tools to fullfill consumer needs (ETS), which is now shipping on all enterprise models and will be shipped on consumer models in the near future.

So this discussion is of a BOTH right kind. FIRST enterprise, then Trusted services will FORCE the consumer side to have activated TPMs.

Happy new year to all

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JKIRK57......GREAT Find!Thanx/eom

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Danbury, chipset, drivers, tpm, ontopic, or.....

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Stoc....who knows, looking forward to your report. We wouldn´t have expected to see your find then.

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Thanx Stoc and 4x.........if I remember correctly, it was you, Stoc, who made the pictures of the IBM notebook on a STX booth at CES in January 2006, where we saw the Wave software installed. The crowd attacked you for manipulating and putting a note on the STX booth to take a picture!LOL

Now 2 years later we see the ads and a few months from now, we´ll see the revenues from this relationship.

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Alea, Micro......just when I wanted to reply to Micro re: HP, I saw your post here. YES we´re talking about ENTERPRISE business and not (yet) consumer, and right now DELL is the first choice. I wouldn´t want Dell to concentrated on selling 500 bucks notes to consumers, just to regain #1 in volume. Remember all where the #1 from HP and the #3 from Acer (temporarily) came from: It was the low level-entry-consumer machine, high volume shippment not the expansion of their enterprise business.
I don´t care about the HP figures of their Pavilion series, nor do I care about Dells Inspiron, Dimension or vostro line. NOT YET! It´s the battle between HP DC line and Optiplex, HP XW and Precision and NC vs. Latitude, nothing more at this moment on the enterprise client side. What Dell tries to do is offering COMPLETE SOLUTIONS to enterprises, including security, not only shipping the clients and some servers. And there WE come in play, a security solutions developer which developed the SERVER and CLIENT sided software to manage the NEW security hardware called TPM and more fcollowing roots-of-trust like FDEs.
And YES HP has to look at this space SOON to hold their #1, since over the nex months aqnd years the net based services WILL DEMAND this kind of ATTESTATION to cooperate services....

NOW is the time to show the world WHO is the number ONE, when it comes to the new security paradigm TRUSTED WEB.

BR and best wished for you all

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Merry christmas and a happy new year, all!eom

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Weby....FDEs will not become a default as long as you can earn money with them. FDE as standard will occur end of 2009 or in 2010, IMO. But be sure we don´t want FDEs as a standard!

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Keeler......well stated and true, but lost energy re: unix. Some will never or want never understand. Welcome here....

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Doma/24601......to be fair, if we look at the RS only, your observations are right. But if we count the PPs and their effect, the OS now is the same as then. So I guess DIG means that due to dilution the 3 shares then with 50M OS are now 1 share with 50M OS, hard to swallow but true......

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Hi Sam!

This is definitely a strong buy for me at these prices! No dilution in the last years, interesting patents and a possible AAPL connection, with others to follow....

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Cosign.....I guess we should thank Bruno for this initial PUSH. France is his terrain....

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Weets....where are these notes manufactured?

NEC laptops, Versa M370, P570 and S970

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GK...or until HP customers demand a REAL powerful solution....LOL Don´t hold your breath!

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New Wave.....I´m still dreaming of ASUS or ACER!eom

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Ramsey thanx.....I mixed it up! I thought they had Intel boards with IFX chips and ETSL came with the board.

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Remember Intel....
Remember the first IFX 1.1b Dell machines...

Forget the TPM manufacturer, Wave has the ONLY solution which covers all in the Trusted Computing arena...

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Ramsey....IFX as far I know....

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For all.....I remember the time when a colleague of mine developed remote desktop. At this time, McAfee was one of the MOST unrecognized security assets in the world. Time will change, for sure....

BTW, it´s not about HP vs. Dell or NEC, it´s about a new security infrastructure. If you bet on whats state of the art right now, then forget Wave, if you believe that the security landscape will change, KEEP RACING HERE!!!!!!

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Another OEM who chose Wave instead of Secude. GREAT news, don´t underestimate NEC! While most of the Western world sees NEC as a small OEM, the market in Japan is huge.

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Alladinador.....your question is adressed to the wrong person!LOL

I was always wrong so far on this.

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ITWave....sorry wrong

http://www.mcafee.com/us/local_content/datasheets/ds_sb_management_center.pdf

To achieve This, safebooT® managemenT cenTer™ provides powerful
cenTral managemenT Tools, including cenTral deploymenT, user managemenT, policy managemenT,
recovery, audiTs, and seamless inTegraTion wiTh Third-parTy enTerprise sysTems and pki.

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WOW, now this is a pretty good translation!LOL
The translation engine had to much beer.....

Anyway thanx weets and I guess most here understand the content.

Nothing new but fine to see us in the german press.

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Genz, weets.....please ignore the NON removable, it´s a fault of the translation engine. Of course the discs are removable.

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Dell liefert Notebooks mit selbst verschlüsselnder Festplatte

http://www.pcwelt.de/start/sicherheit/datenschutz/news/1850001/

06.12.2007, 14:36 Uhr
Dell liefert Notebooks aus der Serie Latitude mit Festplatten aus, die sich selbst verschlüsseln und so vor Datendiebstahl schützen.In Kürze sollen auch die mobilen Precision-Workstations von Dell mit diesem Feature ausgestattet werden. Festplatten schalten sich dabei nach fünf vergeblichen Authentifizierungsversuchen automatisch ab.
Das Feature Full-Disk-Encrypted-Laufwerk (FDE) steht in folgenden Latitude-Notebooks zur Verfügung: ATG, D531, D630, D630c, D631 und D830. In Kürze sollen auch die mobilen Precision-Workstations mit dem Verschlüsselungsmechanismus ausgeliefert werden.Verschlüsselt mit 128 Bit AESDiesem liegt die Momentus-5400-FDE.2-Technologie von Seagate zugrunde. Sie bieter eine Kapazität von 120 GB. Die Daten werden in Echtzeit mit 128 Bit AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) verschlüsselt, ohne dass hierbei die CPU- und Festplatten-Performance beeinflusst werden. Fremdzugriffe und Datendiebstahl sind, sagt Dell, so nahezu unmöglich, da sich FDE-Disks nach fünf fehlgeschlagenen Authentifizierungsversuchen automatisch abschalten. Aufwändige Ver- und Entschlüsselungen beim Einrichten oder bei der Service-Wartung der Notebooks würden, so das Unternehmen weiter, komplett entfallen.Pre-Boot-AuthentifizierungDie mitgelieferte Software Wave Embassy Trust Suite for Dell 3.0 erlaubt die Einrichtung einer Pre-Boot-Authentifizierung sowie von lokalen Passwörtern und deren Wiederherstellung. Darüber hinaus wird ein schnelles und sicheres Entfernen von Altdaten sichergestellt: Administratoren können den Encryption-Schlüssel löschen, so dass alle Daten unwiderruflich unlesbar sind. Daten und Dateiensysteme lassen sich so nicht mehr rekonstruieren - ein großer Vorteil, wenn Firmen-Notebooks weiterverkauft oder recycelt werden.Fernwartung inklusiveEin wirkungsvolles Remote-Management ermöglicht der Embassy Remote Administration Server (ERAS). Damit sind Administratoren in der Lage, FDE-Festplatten remote zu initialisieren und zu verwalten, sowie Sicherheitsrichtlinien mit Active Directory zu administrieren. Hinzu kommen Passwort- und Benutzer-Management. Vergessene Passwörter lassen sich einfach zentral wieder herstellen.

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Thanx Doma!/eom

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Doma....re:Seagate's Ad Agency find

where, what, too tired for searching....

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Mundo....EXCELLENT find!

From a technical point of few, I´m wondering why you´ve got no replies on this.

"TPM technology also allows data on the hard drive, including temporary files and the swap file, to be entirely encrypted as part of a secure boot-up."

The TPM itself can´t do this. So there has to be an FDE software or hardware installed?!

Just a guess re: SWAP file encryption, but has anybody tried to install Symantec Norton on a SOFTWARE FULL encyrpted drive?

Good find mundo, thanx for sharing

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Cosign.....sure I think this is one of Dells assets to regain the number ONE again. HP´s step with Safeboot sure underlines their interest in Security too, but while Dell is using only ONE solution to provide strong security to ALL of their business machines, HP has different applications (Protect Tools, Safeboot) for different security issues and ONLY on HALF of their business machines. This makes it more difficult for ADMINS to set up an enterprise wide security infrastructure. Not to speak of the lack of server sided administration tools.....

So I guess at least for enterprises the choice should be easy!

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Hi Sheldon.....thats my experience too. And not to forget you´ll have to decrypt the HOLE drive to install some sort of applications and after that you´ll have to go the painfull way of encrypting the drive again. Another few hours lost.....

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MaynardG....sorry no./eom

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RWK.....the tablet is a business machine, so you´ll know the answer

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Chance.....thanx for your efforts, much appreciated!/eom

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To all, RE D430:....most notebooks in the near sub-ultra size have 1.8 inch hard discs. I guess the standard for the D430 is a 1.8 drive. (the 4200rpm indicates this)

Sure the notebook has a 2.5inch case, so they can carry FDEs. But I guess most of the business machines are 630s or 830s.

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Ramsey....yes the most of the OEMs, I´ve had in my hands don´t even ship a driver CD with the systems. So you have to download it. Well I guess nobody will download it!

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out of the door,....again

Taxi vader.....thats exactly what I´ve seen on the machines. All IFX machines (All notebooks and the DC7700) Have Protect Tools preinstalled and all BRCM machines NOT.
Thanx for the pdf, nice summary BTW.

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Ramsey....yes HP installes their HP protect tools ONLY on IFX machines. It makes no sense, since the Protect Tools run on BRCM chips too.

I don´t know IF HP has a concept on this issue.

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Jup, that´s what I thought months or years ago. The IFX SW development is not even a division. So why invent the wheel for the xth time?

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