Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
BTH has licensed a gold mine and are in clinical trial testing stages. If there is any concern to be had, it would be that Cannabix has raised tons of money and don't have a trial yet. BUT, I also recognize that BLO needed money to fund their research.
ITS ALL GOOD. Both are making solid progress.
So if you don't believe in BTH, then why post?
Why not... you haven't provided an explanation
They are running a government approved clinical trial on a technology that has been proven in many studies and has a multi-billion dollar market to hit. They need money to run trials. They got it. They are now running the trial. They are years ahead of the sister company which you avidly support... who have also granted options...
Influenza is a massive issue and a breathalyzer for it's detection that eliminates the need for the current swabs, would be worth billions...
This board is entirely opinion. I am open to discussion. I think Breathtec is going to hit a gold mine very soon and funds will find Cannabix.
Ahaha someone wants cheap shares. Breathtec has licensed what could be the most profitable technology in the medical industry. You don't even know what MRSA, VRE, and influenza are do you? The industry is worth BILLIONS. MRSA is the biggest issue in every hospital in the world right now. Influenza is the biggest issue in every family doctors office in the world right now.
MORE TRIALS SHOWING NA-NOSE WORKS (I have more from where this came from, all published by Haick, please just ask if you would like them, also I am more than happy to explain the science in them if you wish, just ask specific questions):
Note... these are VERY reputable american chemistry journals. These are very very well run trials with many co-investigators from around the world at major universities.
Diagnosis and Classification of 17 Diseases from 1404 Subjects (Patients) via Pattern Analysis of Exhaled Molecules.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28000444
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5269643/
Programmed Nanoparticles for Tailoring the Detection of Inflammatory Bowel Diseases and Irritable Bowel Syndrome Disease via Breathprint.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27390291
Exhaled Breath Analysis for Monitoring Response to Treatment in Advanced Lung Cancer.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26968885
Furthmore, you have ignored/haven't commented on what I have actually stated. Take a second and comment on the following and have some discussion rather than dismissing it:
"Zlinger, there will not be an "approval". However, the government AND police both require scientifically validated clinical trial results that demonstrate the accuracy of the device before implementation and re-structuring of policy. It's not an approval, it's proof. They need results.
Cannabix is several years from having that data. If not longer.
They have detected it in a lab, that is what I previously stated. And yes, that is true, they have. I also stated that it's a matter of time before field testing. Yes, a matter of time, that is true. How long? A long time to field testing, several years of testing, then months of analysis of data, then interpretation takes months, then it could take years to fine tune the device based on the results, then finally it could take a year or two before it's on the road.
Ultimately it's not possible for Cannabix to be on the road in less than 3-4 years. That's fact. 3-4 years is extremely generous. It's more likely to take 5. Hound Labs will be to market much before that as they are already field testing. Breathtec will be to market with Na-NOSE in 1-2 years, again, much before Cannabix. Breathtec will also be to market with FAIMS in 3-4 years. Why faster than Cannabix? They are detecting abundant compounds in breath, easy to detect in large quantities compared to fleeting amounts of THC that leave the system in the parts per billions in 2 hours...
That's all fact and based on my experience working in the field."
Euroconversions, you are usually rational. My opinion has changed since last year in October as you reference my old post. Fact is, that Hound Labs is now running a trial. Breathtec is running a trial. Cannabix is not. Cannabix has Huestis designing it, but it's not ready (clearly, as their has been no release).
That post is from over a year ago. When they were attempting to build their device. My opinion has changed since a year ago, I would hope yours has too. Their difficulty is no longer with building the device (as you referenced my post), the difficulty now is with trial testing. Hound Labs is trial testing, Cannabix hasn't designed a trial yet. Big difference. Breathtec has designed a trial and it's approved and running. Cannabix has not.
If I am wrong, please show me where.
MORE TRIALS SHOWING NA-NOSE WORKS (I have more from where this came from, all published by Haick, please just ask if you would like them, also I am more than happy to explain the science in them if you wish, just ask specific questions):
Note... these are VERY reputable american chemistry journals. These are very very well run trials with many co-investigators from around the world at major universities.
Diagnosis and Classification of 17 Diseases from 1404 Subjects (Patients) via Pattern Analysis of Exhaled Molecules.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28000444
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5269643/
Programmed Nanoparticles for Tailoring the Detection of Inflammatory Bowel Diseases and Irritable Bowel Syndrome Disease via Breathprint.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27390291
Exhaled Breath Analysis for Monitoring Response to Treatment in Advanced Lung Cancer.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26968885
Want some scientific proof? I think these are relevant to our discussion because, IF there is scientific proof to show a device works, you can find it... here are some examples of Na-NOSE... PROOF, well-run scientific trials demonstrating use in cancer detection.
SOME SCIENTIFIC ARTICLES PROVING NA-NOSE ATTACHED
Here are the links:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21505455
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21190078
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26628933
There should be no doubt that management has licensed a gold mine via Haick. This is years of science.
How is this relevant to BLO? Because someone show me the articles supporting FAIMS in THC detection in Breath? They are years behind. Not to there fault... just, we need to be realistic on timeline.
PS: I have even more studies from Haick showing Na-NOSE works, ask me for them if you want I will post them, but I am not going to bombard the board because then I get labelled as persuasive.
SOME SCIENTIFIC ARTICLES PROVING NA-NOSE ATTACHED
Here are the links:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21505455
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21190078
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26628933
Do your dd. The research shows these guys have licensed a gold mine. Clinical trial is running.
Smart move getting involved with the sister company. In terms of company progress and time to market, the sister is closer.
Like I JUST said to Zlinger... below are based on my experience working in this field.
Zlinger, there will not be an "approval". However, the government AND police both require scientifically validated clinical trial results that demonstrate the accuracy of the device before implementation and re-structuring of policy. It's not an approval, it's proof. They need results.
Cannabix is several years from having that data. If not longer.
They have detected it in a lab, that is what I previously stated. And yes, that is true, they have. I also stated that it's a matter of time before field testing. Yes, a matter of time, that is true. How long? A long time to field testing, several years of testing, then months of analysis of data, then interpretation takes months, then it could take years to fine tune the device based on the results, then finally it could take a year or two before it's on the road.
Ultimately it's not possible for Cannabix to be on the road in less than 3-4 years. That's fact. 3-4 years is extremely generous. It's more likely to take 5. Hound Labs will be to market much before that as they are already field testing. Breathtec will be to market with Na-NOSE in 1-2 years, again, much before Cannabix. Breathtec will also be to market with FAIMS in 3-4 years. Why faster than Cannabix? They are detecting abundant compounds in breath, easy to detect in large quantities compared to fleeting amounts of THC that leave the system in the parts per billions in 2 hours...
That's all fact and based on my experience working in the field.
Only observational and speculation. As a scientist, I realize this is one of the worst forms of evidence.
However, the (BLO) share price seems to spike before news is released in the absensce of online discussion of an upcoming news release. If it's not friends and extended... then I don't know.
Speculation is speculation. I get it. It won't help us move forward with this. But sometimes I wonder if anything will.
I do truly believe that those who are in the extended circles are aware of when the jumps are coming. My belief lies in having had conversations with management where I was told of things to come. Imagine, if they tell me, what they tell those they know closely.
Please read this. I have worked as a university (and industry) scientific researcher. I want this to be eye-opening to the non-science investors who keep posting misleading timelines.
Cannabix likely won't have news for a while regarding the trial, as it can take 6 months-12 months just to even get the skeleton of the trial protocol written, let alone ready to get ethics approval for (another 6 months at least), and then get ready to conduct the trial (6 more months), and then start enrolling and conduct the trial (several years), and then data analysis (more months-years), then interpreting the data and likely needing to go back and refine the device (again years), and then get approval (year(s)). It's unlikely Cannabix will get to the market in the next 5 years. It could be 10.
Breathtec is years and years ahead of Cannabix and are testing a proven successful device that has government support, yet trade for a quarter of the price. And you guys are hear discussing fine details about options... focus on the science, because that's what we are investing in.
One company is 20 cents, then other 80. We all need to open our eyes here.
Why do you say that?
29k shares traded today, that's nothing. Dropping 6 percent on no volume should be illegal.
These guys have a track record of leaving investors without news for months. People trading short game end up losing faith and share price drops. Insiders don't care. Traders are scared. They shouldn't be. Look at Cannabix. People get scared, it drops to nothing and then eventually rallies.
Breathtec will blow Cannabix away, pun intended.
It's easy to blame management, especially as the share price falls. These guys raised money successfully and announced private placement completion. Furthermore, they score a licensing deal with a world class researcher who needed breathtec to take his multi million dollar funded, European Union approved, research successfully proven, medical tech device to market. Indeed, breathtec got a clinical trial approved and has the minister of health on board. Yet the share price falls.
It's us. Not management. It's the shareholders who are scared. Cannabix has us scared. When we have nothing to be afraid of. This is a goldmine.
If FAIMS and NS-Nose in the pipeline, what do you think the share to
Insiders getting ready to load up.
Follow the facts: a company with a multi million dollar funded breath detection instrument that has proven to work and had European Union support and has been approved for clinical trials. Trials have commenced. Minister of health is on board. Stock is undervalued. This is going to sky rocket as soon as they start seeing positive results in trials, insiders will gobble up shares and it will creep before exploding.
MC
One thing is for sure. You have all (aside from AMG) failed to comment on and recognize that this stock is extremely undervalued and should be trading much higher than Cannabix, yet it is a fraction of the price. Everyone is getting caught in BS talk about management. At the end of the day, these guys have a clinical trial running that is government approved and they are not far from making astronomical money. Time to wake up.
What do you think is going on?
This stock is way undervalued, especially compared to Cannabix. Cannabix is infinitely less likely to become successful with faims and breathtec not only is using faims to identify abundant compounds that are much easier to detect, but breathtec also has Na-nose which is government tested and is in clinical trials (approved).
Yet it trades for a quarter of Cannabix. People overlook scientific fact and data and invest on the theory of a device. It's silly.
Going to be news regarding faims for medical compound detection soon. Could be any day.
Amg you here ?
I agree. Saliva testing is completely acceptable, whether you are in the USA or Canada. The test strip is disposed of after use. Simple. No collection of DNA involved. What is most important? First company with a working product to market is going to take the field by storm.
I have posted my rationale several times over the past few weeks for why I see Breathtec's Na-NOSE as the future. There in clinical trial stage and have years of testing under their belt. Cannabix is several years behind Breathtec in terms of product development and it's stock is over-valued. BTH is undervalued greatly. We are here to make money!
I hate to burst the bubble, but that article is VERY bias. The guy make claims that Cannabix may or may not be trustworthy, but then goes on to show his true colors by trying to trash Houndlabs. That's not an objective critique.
He say's:
Could be bad news for BLO> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/drugalyzers-to-test-for-drugged-drivers-arrive-in-halifax-1.3940156
Roadside testing has begun on two new devices for drug detection which could eliminate the need for a breathalyzer if the Canadian police force adopts them...
National pilot project by Public Safety Canada.
The portable devices by Alere and Securetec.
In my opinion, if Canada legalizes pot, they will arbitrarely set a detection limit/toxication quantity such that if the amount if above the arbitrary value your going to get charged. They will have no data to support it, but they are going to pick the random number because they have no choice, they will legalize pot and will need to do it.
Just my two cents. Watch and see. No DNA issue with saliva detection, don't need a permit or warrant. Nothing is retained.
Cheers
Hey AMG - good questions. Here's my two cents:
It's important not to get lost in the sea of wishy washy start-ups. These guys have actually put together some solid businesses and kudos to them on their manegement.
We need to remain focused as a group of investors, on sharing our DD and coming together to recognize where our money is best spent. Right now, Breathtec has a trial tested product which is being run in a government approved clinical trial. The product had millions invested in it by the European Union and the lead scientist is a hot shot. They will monetize that before they monetize FAIMS, because FAIMS isn't at the same point in the development timeline, they are still in the early research and development phase, not trial testing. As such, Breathtec will score before Cannabix. BTH in months-years, Cannabix in years.
BTH Na-NOSe is well tested and has a massive market to capture. FAIMS does also, it's time will come. BTH will spin money into Yost groups lab once Na-NOSE starts to pay. Expect shares to easily surpass several dollars once Na-NOSE shows positive CLINICAL TRIAL data. They have already proven it works in their lab, the current data is going to get fast track regulatory government approval.
How's it flawed?
BTH has a laboratory tested, multi-million dollar government funded technology for breath detection of disease related enzymes and biomarkers in human breath - Na-NOSE is a valuable technology that HAS been tested, proven to work, and is now being tested under the surveillance of government who will use the current study to give approval for use. The money generated from that device will find it's way back into Cannabix through the Yost lab. It's a big mashed up love affair between BTH and BLO. Professor Haick was a gift from above. Get your shares of each before they take off. You're discussion of a buyout is irrelevant right now. Furthermore:
Thank you for correcting his points. Breathtec will have a working product much before Cannabix, and will hit a bigger market. The money Breathtec makes will most certainly trickle into the Yost lab and Cannabix will indirectly benefit. A buyout of either company will be for way more than 2-3 dollars per share. If Na-NOSE trial is a success, shares would skyrocket. I see shares hitting 2-3 dollars in the next 6 months given that they have a heavily trial tested product and a government approved clinical trial that's already taking place. They received millions (Haick that is) from the European Union and have demonstrated product success. Also it is possible that Na-NOSE will get licensed by Cannabix for controlled substances as AMG mentions. But regardless, Breathtec is going to score big and the cash flow is going to boost both companies.