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Everyone seems to think that NW can't buy any shares, while that might be true with his select funds he can buy it under other names, thru other partners which I assume he has many, thru friends and other entities that he controls named or unnamed.
I am going to step out of my comfort zone and say something possibly stupid to you all but logical to a layman like me.
I interpret when Linda Liau says everyone is living longer she is only speaking about patients who are on the vaccine. From all her previous experience she knows that with brain cancer after surgery and chemo the patient eventually turns for the worst and dies within a certain amount of time either immediately, soon after or within the typical timeframe. She also knows that when the vaccine is knowingly introduced there is a change, patents do better and thus live longer. She also knows that when a patent who is given a placebo switches to the vaccine there is a change and the patent suddenly does better and loves longer. Yes in this current trial a placebo is given but the placebo is stopped and the vaccine is started at the point when the patient isn't responding to the placebo and the
vaccine needs to be started. Linda Liau I must surmise doesn't know initially if it is a placebo or not but eventually she nows when the switch is made....she sees the change and can later confirm after the switch heck she might even be the one to make the decision of the switch to help save the patients life.
Tell me if I am wrong.
IE Linda Liau wouldn't be including the patients on the placebo when discussing results imho. After all the trial isn't about the value of the placebo , it is about the value of the vaccine, that is the subject of the trial.
With regards to Dr Linda Liau's now prolific interview this my take away from it, a layman take away btw:
When a noted surgeon/researcher who is as respected as she is, who owns ZERO shares in NWBIO, who is one of the most dedicated and conservative researchers/neurosurgeons talks as confident and as excited as she is and remember you have to put in perspective that I have heard her speak and not speak any where as she is today discusses the results of her efforts, the vaccine's efforts one then must
realize that this must be game changer. She isn't the kind of doctor who is going to go out on a limb to recommend a product as a near cure unless it not only really is but it most likely is better than how she is describing it.
Neuro-surgeons are an ultra conservative bunch sure they take enormous risks but they are risks that have to be made and/or are calculated. She is used to be the one to be the bearer of bad news, afterall she is a brain cancer surgeon. She is used to see death every which way she turns, she is used to not having hope but can only work and pray. She would never want to exaggerate any product because if she isn't certain it could make her lose LL credibility and that is exactly what she has built over the years. So in my best estimate the product has to be even better than she described, she wouldn't want to overpraise and under deliver, that would make her life extremely difficult to manage on a day to day basis. She wouldn't want to become the laughing stock of her medical community. Another way to look at what I am saying is that LL wouldn't want to risk all that she is shouting from the roof tops if it weren't so, if she wasn't seeing. if she didn't believe it and if it were even better than what she announced, that is just how doctors roll. So instead of LP shouting it down from the roof tops LL did, unexpected wasn't it, but even better!
Think about what I am saying here, for her to come out and report her findings in this manner is HUGE! and this is exactly what LP knows and why LP has been doing what she has been doing. And to add Lp has even more info, this is just the beginning, Bosch knows this and more too. And when you got all this info under your belt you don't necessarily need NW like you once did, remembering NW is all in any way probably for the very same reasons although he would know a lot less since know matter what he was told and what agreements he signed LP keeps things close to her vest.
I just don't believe most here realize all this, they get to deep into the numbers to see through the papers. LP can give NW the finger because SHE KNOWS thus SHE CAN. NW must now realize this after LP sent him that personal message on that last token raise. Yes it was a token raise to show him, no problem we don't need you anymore, you helped get us to where we are going but now we have the answer and if you try to screw with us tis is what you get. I bet you he apologizes and rightly so and I bet LP forgives because she is smart enough to realize you don't burn bridges but NW dissed LP that is for certain, threw her under the bus and he has to own up to that and not blame LP for hitting back and hard, she earned his respect and she is smart enough to realize his money is as good as anyone's as long as he plays nice.
Tomorrow we will the apps will start rising partly because of what has been said here and mostly when the medical community start viewing the video, maybe it will even go viral in the medical community. Maybe FOX will have Les back on as a follow up or LL if she can take a break from her duties.
And be prepared for the shorts to attack the video and throw everything at it and rip it apart, but remember it is one thing to rip LP another to rip LL. I don't think LL can be ripped apart in the end, the shorts don't have the balls. I can't wait until AF wakes up from his alcoholic weekend beer binge and comes on here to spout his bs or tweet his fellow cohorts.......bring it on it is going to get exciting from here on in. I wouldn't be surprised if NW blogs a make nice short and sweet and to the point article directed at LP & NWBO because after all that he has done for the company he would n't want to miss out on the ride and be included in the incredible publicity this company will achieve and it isn't too late for him to be a supporter again doing what he does best and beliee me he is one of the best at he the does.
For a moment lets break down her response word by word like every naysayer does just to be balanced.
LP answered as she laughed:" we're already close to the TOTAL number".
The total number is 348 and you "suggested 325 OR 340".
So she threw out your numbers, more importantly that includes 340 and she was telling you it was greater than 340 but less than 348. If the number was close to your 340 she would have said closer to 340, but she said close to 348 and that means close based on your excellent question and she seemed to welcome the bait rather easily and comfortably a supposed to in the past she may have attempted to shirt a question or two when she was uncomfortable with it...ie to me it means it is on the 348 side and a hair away....with the laugh it could be that she knew she would be hitting it any moment. Today since it its 2 + weeks from that dialogue I believe we are there and she knew they would get there soon after the meeting if not technically already there right after the meeting.
Now the shorts would in this case say we are far from 348 because she said close and close could mean just about any range but you narrowed it with your great question but more importantly she NARROWED IT EVEN FURTHER! How is that for LP giving us a hint......she cares about us too.:)
Me happy with that aspect of the trial at least.
Ready,
enough already.
If they did err so what, mistakes are made, even critical mistakes are made in every company....see apple, nasa, Facebook, symantec.....sheeesh......how perfect is your life?
How are you helping the cause here these days.....just tell me how?
I am a little confused, it appears you all are talking about the wonderful video from &/2015. I just want to bring up the article from if no one has already from Science Daily dated 9/1/2015 source ICLA Health Sciences discussing I believe the same thing is a short and sweet manner.
Also an article by Jeannine Walston on 12/1/2015 a trial patient in Healing Cancer that briefly talks about her and some survivors. The int here is that she looks great and speaks fondly of our vaccine.
Sorry if this has already been discussed,
FYI re Sir Neil Woodford and how he rolls, an article in "The Telegraph" by Richard Fletcher 3/4/2010
discusses Cenkos and Wooodford and a boardroom battle at Omega an interesting read into what Neil does and a little about his relationship with Cenkos which I believe dates back prior to 2008. And of course when you think about his relationship with Cenkos you think about his chats with Malik and the info that could be transferred in some manner. I realize it has been stated on the boards by some naysayers that Malik could have convinced NW to invest in NWBO whereby Malik could be enriched in some way. Well I don't know about the enrichment part, I can envision him having NW's ear but lets not forget about NW also having a relationship with LP in some way i.e. just because NW invested in NW bug time last year it doesn't mean that he stumbled upon them last year with these relationships he could have been very versed on them dating back years and waited for what he envisioned as the right time as many here. I got in 2014, he got in 2014 many here did the same but with a lot less info presumable than NW. NW is well connected he didn't just meet or hear of LP months ago, with his close ties with Cenkos, he would have known of Malik and then known LP in some way.
You should also read Motley Fools 10/28/2015 where our NW urges the break up of GSK, an interesting read into his mindset.
Then re Ondra who NW is ultra close with they were hired by him to help prevent potential merger that BAE & EADS wanted to do as discussed o the City A.M. article written by David Heller on 10/9/2012 another short but interesting read into NW.
And more in another great article about the same subject in The Guardian written by Patrick Collinson on 10/12/2012.
So NW isn't all fun and giggles, he throws his weight around when he wants and when he feels strongly about the direction a company is going in, who is running the company , who is on the board and any mergers and acquisitions by company. NW it appears forced out Astra Zeneca's CEO David Brennan in a shareholder revolt. You think LP doesn't read the news? Mayne that is why NW didn't get anyone on the Board when he first invested, he played nice initially, got his foot in the door and then when Phase V article came out used that as motivation to parlay the negativity into a boardroom change and possible future CEO ouster i.e. he didn't just learn about the Phase V negative spin when they wrote since as we all know it has been out there for awhile and they just compiled it all together in one bound volume and published it. So my theory is NW wasn't behind the Phase V book as opposed to a couple page article ( btw anonymously printing 60 page rant is akin to lawyers papering their opposing sides to death) but used it for his benefit not thinking that people then would question if he did any DD since he stated he just learned of certain things right after the last $30M. I could go on and on, but LP clearly saw the writing on the wall and wanted to quell no squash NW's momentum immediately and could have added a little personal vengeance in her scathing PR just to show NW that he can't mess with her.......can you blame her for it.........doesn't it show strength....afterall would anyone guilty of what she has been accused of come out swinging the way she has so eloquently, she didn't dig herself into a deeper hole she jumped out of it! Go LP!
With regards to the brief Woodford commentary, I view this as a huge win. He is obviously a proud guy, and most likely has been buttered up by so many over the years that he has star like status so he wouldn't be going around kissing anyones behind or feel the need to either. I am sure saving face is also a must but by the sounds of that small release regarding his investment in NWBO he basically inched forward covering the two main areas we have wondered about, does he still hold the stock in his portfolio, will he continue to keep his invest in NWBO moving forward, and did he do his homework when he chose to invest his portfolio in it. These remarks were telling coming from a man of such wealth and power and status and rock star like quality. Much should be read into this interview because it says so much more than the literal 2 sentences. Put it this way the self loathers like AF & Co would have you believe that he is a dummy for investing in NWBO i.e. duped, that he later discovered major improprieties after investing and that he wants out now, and that LP should be removed and his people put in etc etc. The article says clearly the opposite, it may not be long and wordy and full of apologies but it is telling.
With regards to AF responding to my acqusation that he has disappeared now that his work is done and gone on to other greener pasture rife for the killing and spread of damning opinions meant sole to destroying companies for profit that is also extremely telling.
It proves once again to those that believe it was an AF masquerader that it is AF, that he had to have the last word, that he couldn't resist reading our message board like he always has and will do, that this is the place that has given him all the info that he needed to write the damning articles, that he is the one who does little to no DD, that he has and always will rely on others work to profit, that he is totally insecure of NWBO's future that he the big opinionated bloviated know it all felt the need to once again come to reiterate his position and state the obvious.....his goal of bringing LP & NWBO down for his own company's selfish goals and not for the general good of the public. AF outed himself with his last goodbye and I hope that is obvious to all of you.
As lastly with regards to LP's pr, while I and everyone of course wanted more it also shows you that they will not be pressured to fall into the same traps that AF & co has gotten them to do in the past, that they will stay on course with their head held high and continue to accomplish their goal(s). If should be more than obvious that THEY can't and they want release anything that would impair their road to approval of their vaccine(s) no matter what AF & Co write i.e. make up....no commentary will be made. The SILENCe is telling and it shows that they must be getting closer.
To repeat what was in the last PR regarding the numbers and say that there is no reason for fear and loathing is huge. They too read these boards and if there was something so untold as what AF & Co professes is going on and this is LP's simple and clear and secure response without any explaining or other defensive posturing shows you that they got something but won't be deterred from their goal. Af & co would love to get LP to fall into the talking points trap but she won't. Imagine for a second if LP & NWBO & Cognate actually did everything AF & CO says they did and will do , by LP stating today their is nothing untold that has pushed the stock down that would give the greedy lawsuit happy attorneys a huge payday because it would be a huge lie for obvious reasons i.e. misleading the shareholders.
The truth is obvious, the mudslingers are just that , throwing everything on the wall of NWBO to see what sticks, they are allowed to do this per the silence of the SEC so they do it. And it t is so easy to do, it is so easy to manipulate and cause fear without any proof what so ever an obvious loophole of free speech. If NWBO had something to hide they would come out with a defensive PR trying to counter
everything that they were being accused of but they are not....they are staying on course and following protocol and they must know it may feel long but that it is a short wait until they have something that they can say. Resisting from talking is huge, resisting from defending oneself in the court of public opinion is huger. And with NW's basic blessing that his investment was made with good DD and it is staying in his portfolio speaks too....to me it says that he can't buy more shares if he wanted to because he signed the agreement not to which was one of the major reasons he continued to invest so much besides his firms's own DD.
Exactly and the negotiations went south when LP discovered the Trojan horse sitting in their offices reading their confidential files that they provided Ms Wolf. I am sure that LP & CO had a very interesting meeting shortly after and used many expletives directed privately at NW for setting it up knowing or unknowingly. I guess when your a man like NW there is no excuse for ignorance even if he was, he has no place to hide in their eyes.
And when it comes to NW's DD on his $180M investment many here have questioned if he really did do any........SERIOUSLY......look at all the DD you have done and your investment is pennies compared to his. You think he sat down with Dr Malik for a drink and an hour later ponied up the first $30M? You think he had his crew spend a couple of days reading past articles in the WSJ. trust me they read all of Pyrr's stuff, and RK's and Ready's and Iclight's and Stepenwolf's and Koman's to get both sides. They met with LP and signed off on the insider info or whatever you call it and then did probably 3 to 6 months of research before any of this happens. Parking $180M isn't done immediately or without tremendous thought especially because this is a risky penny stock and its history is even more outrageous.
The fact that NW went front White Knight to Black Knight I can't figure out i.e. I can't figure if he wanted to take over, boot LP or whatever but what should be easily gleamed is that NW is certain of the science otherwise he wouldn't have wasted his time, his money, his reputation and his relationships like he definitely did. Nobody of his mindset and stature comes to play unprepared and with his pants down like some here allude to.
I have come to the realization that whatever the apps is today it won't be the same tomorrow. It will eventually rise it is just a matter of time. Did LP play a terrible game of stock price chess, most assuredly but her strength lies in her ability and efforts at getting the vaccine to market and that is what she excels at, her downfall is that she has such a tight control over the company and trusts no one and delegates to practically no one that she made all the wrong moves with regards to pps. So her poor managing led to this moment of angst but her great managing will lead us out. Imagine we are at $12 in a month, todays apps will all be a fading memory and eventually the apps hits further all time highs and keeps going today will a faded memory. It is all a matter of perspective. I wish we weren't in these shoes right now but we are where we are.
Please note the disappearance of AF and Pyrr, they did their job so it is no point wasting their time here, they inflicted the ultimate damage and for now they won. But it ain't over.
Keep the faith you won't hear me say this is a great buying opportunity because it has been overused but it isn't going to go to zero it is just the reflection of everything that has transpired until now and fear is winning ........albeit temporarily.
I would love for you to be right, so I would like for you to explain how NW should "dump" 28% of the company without decimating the pps?otherwise what is the point of his telling if not to preserve shareholder value. Don't you think he hasn't as far as we know dumping much because he cannot effectively get out holding so many shares?
Please answer this since it was the main premise that you gave.
I hope and wish you to be correct.
But is it logical for her to hurt us thru the pps crash in order to help us?
She couldn't think of any other way to help us.
How about if the stock stayed at $12.50, all she had to do was start a lawsuit against AF & Phase V like many companies who are injured do afertall she is an experienced lawyer in the field and in addition allow for selective transparency thereafter. You all say they injured us, so it isn;t like it is a frivolous case, he would never go to trial and the action would stop the negatives. I mean what is the benefit when everyone here says she is a lawyer if you don't lawyer. The shorts would have had to cover if the apps was maintained high and they would be gone by now and we would be sitting pretty with zero dilution and a safe pps through it all.
Yes the contamination should have been removed by now.
However I don't really need this company getting into redevelopment now or later unless it is not huge or building from the ground up. It appears it is just a commercial build out which is quite fine.
Steel is used in interiors for offices so that is a good sign i.e. plans would have had to be submitted and approved, a permit granted and construction allowed to begin so at this point I am impressed with he progress of LP & Co. I hope it is fast and furious without cost over runs and maybe come in under estimates.
With regards to on site contamination. I have purchased property with contamination knowing that I have estimated the costs prior to making an offer so it is calculated into the purchase price. The seller is liable for undisclosed contamination, but I assume it was disclosed, the seller isn't liable for the cost of cleanup once disclosed.
The fact that the contamination costs that much more is troubling since you make your purchase price based on these prior estimates and they were way to low but hopefully it was still a great buy.
But my BIG concern is companies should do what they do best i.e. a biotech should not be speculating in real estate nor becoming a contractor for the first time on our dime. Construction over runs is not only rampant in the industry but it is another way in which a savvy company to take monies from the construction loan or by overbilling for construction cost or just make stupid mistakes, either way all hurts the shareholders. We see surging expenses and cost over runs while who knows where the money really goes to.
At this point I just don't get Ms Powers, what else can I say, I am just being honest.
She allowed AF to go unchecked when AF began, then she hit him right back which started a precedent. And then her response became silence, and ditto toPhase V. So why the shift is my big question.
In the past when there was something positive to say LP would scrap the bottom of the barrel to report good news. Then the Buzzkill episode and her response became silence since. It begs the same question.
I hear some of the members here keep on predicting fast approvals, end of trials yet LP seems to be saying the exact opposite of that, are we not listening to her quiet message, who is frustrating who here.
She has repeatedly made promises and has repeated them into oblivion and it now has turned into silence.
The lack of PR's isn't the norm but it did evolve that way. Her PR about NW wasn't silent in the least, very typical of her and it was a lashing that is for certain. And I must say it was telling, she actually bit the hand that was feeding her that take big ovaries.....a guilty person with something to hide wouldn't give her accuser a lashing if she had absolutely nothing to hide. She attacked back in exactly the true and same form that he went after AF. I have to believe that she did this because she good where as with AF & Co. she isn't allowed to and isn't worth her time right now.
I now see that her dad and her sister were attacked by cancer and she is fighting cancer back with all her know how.......that is obvious. I don't believe she is lining her pockets, I think she is preserving both companies and will do the right thing by us. Sure Outsidelane writes a convincing argument, and I can see his point(s) but I don't believe she is Mrs Evil stroking her white cat trying to take over the world any nefarious way she can. I do think she knows how to protect herself with years of experience in her respective fields and they are many. And that NW with intentionally or unintentionally either got shaken or lifted his kilt and came out to the fight to replace her and she nailed him right between the knickers.
I am going to give her the benefit of the doubt, sure $3 is a hard place to sit but if I had a crystal ball or magic 8ball and could briefly see into the future the picture might not seem so bad and I have to keep the faith. I too lost my Dad to colon cancer and was just recently ill and fought back and won. I think she is fighting and working her magic at the same time and has sincere intentions. This apps thing is only temporary, incredible news in around the corner and it can't come any slower it seems. That therein is the issue, if we were at $12 nothing wool deb ruffling our sails and that is what I have to see when I look at my portfolio.
I am pulling for you Ms Powers, I wish you well in this fight.
And I will finish up with NW if you are reading this realize that the only thing that changed since 60 days ago is your viewpoint. All the DD that was performed prior to your investing $180M hasn't changed, only your perception has and I believe that Ondra did you wrong with this one. If you went after Phase V the way you went after LP much would have turned out very differently. You gave credence to Phase V's written words, they could have said anything and you gave them carte blank to do so. I believe you sent the wrong message. Now if behind the scenes you wanted to be on the board and have a director clear up some of NWBO's weakness I am in total favor of that but the way in which you did it was dead wrong and we are all paying the price for that mistake.
If Cognate lives at NWBO's expense it isn't just happenstance or survival of the fittest, it would be the direct result of LP allowing NWBO to crash and burn due to the way she set this whole conglomerate like operation up and allowing NWBO do fall on its sword....her choice and not ours because NWBO was raided by Cognate in a manner.
I have no fear regarding future cost of decontamination of the site.
Prior to closing escrow one can get site tested to get a clear pictures.
Also decontamination could deb as simple as asbestos or trash. Depending on what the former owners used the site for, and I am sure that is clear it could be very simple removal. The worst area of site cleanup is a Chyernoble type situation but even if the site had a diesel tank underground that leaked would be pretty darn simple. So anyone expressing worry about this is causing unnecessary concern. This is a construction cost and nothing more and one that can be estimated fairly accurately without any major problems. In this day and age every industrial site has cleanup issues, nothing scary here again unless it was in USSR or at an underground missile testing site in Nevada..
Which Linda, Liau or Powers since I have heard many get confused here regarding whose father died of brain cancer I could swear you are one of those who is mistaken, I believe it is linda Liau and thus another learned member propels an incorrect bit of motivation and history on LP's part.
This is where the genius of LP keeping HER two companies separate and unequal can either be looked upon as nefarious or glorious for us. I guess if the apps his high it is good and if it is low like now it breads mistrust. But either way she wins which also breads distrust especially when the pps is low.
I was going to post today that EVERYONE here assumes this gigantic ramp us good for us but all we have is a story without any evidence of it. All we have is checks going out via expenses and nothing tangible in return or to be seen.
This all can be viewed as smoke and mirrors done perfectly legally to end badly for us or legit expenses paving the way for success. Always the final answer is far off into the future, like a carrot dangling just out of reach, where the longer it goes on for the more LP & Co make and if it works then HOPEFULLY the apps is high enough to cover the endless dilution where the dilution always benefits Cognate. Again all done within the confines f the legal system. This is where I say that due to LP's experience she can think of this award winning strategy and constantly do well even while we suffer. I wonder if she never had a family member die of C would we all trust her. Truth is everyone had a family member that has died of C, right?
I have already stated your position weeks ago but the more I think about it the more I think he was duped by Wolf for ONE simple reason Wolf was new to Ondra. If Wolf was;t new then I agree but me thinks she screwed up and screwed him. He couldn't have much of a relationship with her as he does of course with Ondra. So he doesn't throw Ondra under the bus because of his relationship with them and not the new lady on the block who he has no relationship with.
Now if he knew Wolf then he was the ringleader for sure. But tell me why would he break the law and allow Wolf to infiltrate when he could have someone else in place of Wolf while Wolf excuses herself. Think about that, if he knew Wolf and that Wolf was a director for the Israeli Company all he would have to do is have Wolf excused int he process and have someone else question NWBO. It was Wolf's stupidity because she was the lone wolf since if she told her Partners & NW all would be at breaking the law and why risk that . The new individual could pass all to Wolf and no one would have been the wiser.
You said " I brlieve is the middleman" but didn't mention whom.
I don't think NW was the middleman or the ring leader. He invested a great deal into a risking penny stock and wouldn't want to give himself a bad name with a promising almost UK approved cancer treatment. I am sure he is thinking about his own future and his family's and this investment being so close to him was convenient for him to visit. I also believe he might have had a helping hand int he land deal via his connections in some form. I also think if he feels good about the investigation that he will make nice again and only have more respect for LP.
The ring leader was Ms Wolf imho being a director at the Israeli Company and a new partner in Ondra.....thought she could slip undetected under the radar.
The operative word is NW "MAY" have, we don't know for sure. What LP vetted was hugely important but do you really think NW was the ringleader. He only helped the Company via cash and pps. He brought the company out from the cloud of uncertainty via the needed funding. In the end, that final $30M which he was probably forced to go thru via NWBO he added the looks via his people. Now tell me who vets their own people, one usually trusts their partners and trusts that if their partners know something that he doesn't they will alert him.........and that is what I think didn't happen thus he was made to look bad. Obviously LP's investigation didn't take long, the dots were connected by LP, not genius work but important/crucial work nonetheless. LP did nothing wrong, probably saved her company in some way but in the aftermath it made NW look bad, while has only himself to blame via his partner's conduct it makes him look like a stooge and not save face with the public airing of tall which again LP probably had no choice to do effectively because NW probably wasn't listening.
But NW was our knight in shinning arrmour and was saving the Company by giving stability and protection from the shorts and with his absence uncertainty returns and rather fast.
What does it say to you about the membership here who were convinced NW voted for LP.
Suspension of disbelief; not being logical; only looking at the situation from the positive; imbalanced vs balanced approach; brainwashed mindset of a long?
The fact that they hung on to this belief for so long, what else could they be wrong about......would you agree this does not bode well to have out first big time investor to now be opposed to LP running the company?
This cannot be good.
This affirmation of him doing a complete 180 isn't very positive in the least.
Jack,
you are absolutely incorrect in your last statement that NW is supportive of LP & Malvik because he voted for them. It has been previously proven that HE DID NOT VOTE FOR THEM!
Please get this straight it is important!
Thanks
Thank yo RK, so tell it to me straight are you now a NWBO believer or are you just not writing in the negative. I am confused by your change ......are you in or not and if you are in are you big time or small time. And what changed for you to be a true believer if that is what you are now?
thanks
What is the date of this, is it an article and what is the source of it?
Thanks
Interesting question......me thinks you are stead fasting pumping negative since you arrived a couple of weeks agoI believe you already know the answer to your question........afterall you are smart guy........right?
So the question begs why are you asking a question that you already know the answer to?
Major points the conspiracy short fanatics are making you miss:
Firstly: It was previously opined that Les's persona; $400k bridge loan wasn't a sign of confidence because the company didn't really need it and/or he knew he was going to get it right back so he wasn't risking anything and/or didn't necessarily believe in his company.
But under these last days in 2015 i.e. the current circumstances of the share price his personal bridge loan speaks volumes about what he thinks about the company that the is a major player in and its bright future.
Secondly: Year end tax selling continues through today in every indicey I am familiar with, in fact all of December is the norm for tax selling especially when a stock is down at its historic lows and doesn't stop until close today yet that has been ignored for this stock. In fact many here would have you believe that it only goons on with this stock through the middle of the month. But in reality another reason the stock is diving is because it is the last days in December and shareholders have waited untill the last days to sell to only have to buy back 30 days later or the endow January. So we have dropped steadily manly because of that tax selling strategy.
Thirdly: A stops by for a visit when end of year to try to personally convince EVERYONE still holding/owning to sell....why now? Because he knows NOW is the best time to hit us i.e. our significant group that does effect the stock via the info transmitted here to cause uncertainty with our group and with our message. hen P stops by right after with his posts. The last 2 weeks in December would already have been bad due to the above but with these two and our third new visitor Outside that appeared out of now where and was just burn in December the bang for the buck by spreading negative stuff now is very rewarding for the shorts.
Fourthly: So let me ask you one last time for this year, why are these posters coming here NOW and hitting us NOW and helping cause insecurity...........you can answer that NOW.
Lastly: has the science changed in any way, has the reason you invested changed in any way, are the catalysts still coming although these guys would have you believe either not soon or enough or never at all. Don't be afraid.
Jack,
please I need you to be clear.
You said Les told you there will be delay of over 1 year, you stated 14 month delay. This is huge news and not good at all. Please explain it will be a delay in what trial(s). Please elaborate, you are delivering bad news here with this and you are not being clear, very disturbing the way you write. Please provide an answer in one reply and fully explain what you are delivering. I am not shooting the messenger, I am only asking for clarity since this is totally unexpected bad news that you are delivering, and you are delivering it .........I hate to say it but poorly.
Jack,
thanks but I was speaking about the huge delay in good news, you stated that the delay is over one year, that is shocking and tempers all previous expectations.
Curious why no one here is discussing Jack's awful news, he just had a discussion with Les? What a 180 from Les himself..........I am shocked to say the least. This should dbe front and center and yet it is buried.
In Los Angeles Ca when I pay off a mortgage it take up to 30 days to show as a recorded document.
In small town U.S. of A. it would probably take up to 5 business days. They just received the money today is my understanding, you would never expect to find a recorded document within 24 hours imho that is just too fast and it surely isn't instantaneous.
The real property loan was a short term loan which carries risk such as what may have unfolded due to the lawsuit. What LP has is two short term loans a First & Second, I call these temporary loans or bridge loans obtained for a particular means, the purchase and maybe some fix up and since it isn't a more permanent conventional long term loan real estate loan the filing of a lawsuit can most defintiely trigger a call by the lender for the lender's protection, most lenders have that verbiage in their loan docs. Instead of refinancing when it isn't right LP pays it off immediately, maintains control which is her style by the way and then takes her time to refi and refi right when she knows what she will need and is in a stronger position to take advantage of low historic rates....prudent.
BTW as you know rates will go up but she has time.
Thanks Auto,
great info but when you described your own personal experience you write in a confusing manner. You say that your DCvax was made in 6 months but prior you say you didn't get DCvax so can you clue me into your own personal story for clarity.
And thanks for your story and your friends story and glad both of yu are alive and well!
and at least you know where the R&D and Manufacturing money is going. Imagine giving it to an unknown entity who takes it and runs, blows it or manufacturers subpar vaccine and disrupts the trials. Giving it back to Lp ensures success without any risk, that has to be comforting wouldn't you agree!
I own a small business, just gave thousands to a plumbing contractor who f@$ked me for all of it, now I have to find another plumbing contractor and spend it again. I won't even bother suing the deadbeat and run up attorney fees that would increase my loss since the dirtbag is most likely uncollectible. Trust matters in the big leagues.
For those of you who may not remember:
Pyrr was once totally POSITIVE about NWBO, in fact he got me to buy NWBO via reading his writings on the board.
Now Pyrr completely flip flopped and is totally NEGATIVE about NWBO.
He was and still is completely convincing each time, giving all his 100's of pages of back up as proof of his latest theories.
In both instances NOBODY could convince him otherwise. He was and still is completely steadfast in his latest flip.
Are you aware of this fact, he blew members away when he is pro NWBO and is doing the same now.
FYI
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Would Tim Cook be asked dot step down by the shareholders if he allowed the apps of AAPL to fall the way NWBO did. Would shareholders ever be happy with the performance of any CEO. I hope LP knows what she is doing, since I never expected to be at these levels at this time in our history. But enough said of my frustration.
As far as I am concerned Pyrr's constant bombardment and his cocky opinionated and snarkyness is also frustrating. He desperately wants to make his point and sees no other's come close. He has an agenda and it ain't good for us. He is no different than AF just with a different style and he has fueled and educated the AF's and the Phase V's no doubtedly.
Thank you Pyrr for all your contributions, can't wait until you get your pulitzer, should be given to you by Wooodward & Bernstein real soon. I am sure NW will be attending the award ceremony too.
Assumptions:
about purr are as follows:
he trades
he is a genius at both writing and digging up info when trying to prove a point and you can't deny it. So he digs up, cherry picks and uses what he has found to form his opinion which he calls facts. No one here is an armchair drug trial research like him, form his desk he becomes the expert but remember it is only on paper he has never truly been in the field doing it. But with the info at his fingertips he can act like one and act like a knowledgeable one. Few here are capable of refuting him let alone a true researcher who isn't to be found here. And that doesn't even count what LP has done to hurt herself and help him. Notice purr comes here after Lp and NWBO steps in it each and every time, they are an accident waiting to happen. Phase V reads pyres' crap and then starts writing as simple as that. When purr was positive he was equally as convincing and I was one of the only ones disagreeing with him because he was so hung ho NWBO and convincing.
Do you think a guy as smart as he is does nothing for a living and is here only to help you financially.
What he doesn't say is that he has done an extraordinary amount of digging and can either come here and spew or write an article for Alpha and spew so where is he getting paid. He never answers that question, but he answers every other questions.
Ask yourself what is his reasons for doing what he is doing. I say the answer is that he is being paid by a shorter and it is the only clear and definitive answer.
As smart as he is would he be working for you and me to help us with our investments....come on see the light. You can have it both ways, you can't be smart and not make money in this arena it just doesn't coexist.
So Turtle nothing he says can be helpful, to him it is all a John Gresham novel and that is that.
One thing, have we all forgotten about Pyrr's prior ;died, and that is plural. How do you trust someone who has lied before that is my big questions, my second questions is what is his motivation to be here and write and supposedly research as much as he has with no large stake? Something doesn't make sense.
And lastly I still don't know anything about him, what he has done for a living and what he is doing now? He and Phase V aren't that much different in that respect. We don't know who they are, where they hail from, their prior and current experience. Wh do know their motivation, self admitted and we know Steve's name whoopee.
Dear Outsidelane,
imho you are just an underling to AF, he probably asked you to continue with his short attack until he finished his xmas partying. You do not seem to want to look at ALL the facts only the ones that you twist in your favor. Ridiculous and for a moment I thought we had a new member who wants to dig....
I surely am not on AF's side in this. And am certain he hurts the company's value no matter ho when denies it here.
And I will not deny the strength in numbers the shorters have nor the espionage that must bely biotech.
But at the same time I have to admit the drama that unfolds here due to in part LP's lnaction at times, her exaggeration of events to the positive, her incorrect time lines/promises it can really make someone (like me0 get so turned off to this stock it ain't funny.
I feel like a complete fool, at $10.50 I sold out and 30 minutes bought back in and watched it plummet
to this depth all because I wanted to believe LP.
Now reading the Cognate fail safe share program and the great sums in cash paid to it/her it is obvious that she didn't do what she stated she was going to do, she isn't going to be going home broke any time soon just another line in her long list of famous quotes.