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Yes, that is correct.
Everyone here needs to be careful with the information provided on these boards, all is NOT as it seems much of the time.
We can only hope.
Well Master, you got your 4M+ in volume, but no appreciable sustained rise in share price that would equate with going "bazinga".
We didn't have decent volume for a long time. Once the volume hits over 3-5 mil this will go bazinga for multi days...
It is about 3:00 ET - Time for that last big mean push down and just what we are waiting for for that gap to fill.
Let's just see if she does it.
If not, maybe tomorrow, which would really be a better day for me.
Exactly, that was my point. I'm so glad you felt the need to state that once again, LOL.
Since when is Apple a non-reporting Pinky, LOL.
That was the comparison we were doing.
Do THEY quadruple their OS count every 6 months?
Tsk, Tsk, Tsk. Look at that Accumulation/Distribution line. It has "DILUTION" written all over it.
Oh, I think you still have another lesson or two coming from your nearest SAPX store, LOL.
Wait for it, wait for it.
But then, maybe they will let that be the end of it, but I highly doubt it. Still more to come I do believe.
They just wanted suckers to get comfortable and think OK, time to buy, but noooo, gap is still there, just a teensy tiny bit. Sometimes they fill that tiny bit, sometimes they don't as I learned with another nice runner a cpl of months ago.
I think I'll wait on this one just like a few others on this board who are so confident about this gap fill. SAPX has such a standard pattern; it's just not very tempting to jump in when they always mess with the shareholders so much more.
Yeah, "about to get", LOL.
It has been "about to get" things for 9 months now and it has done nothing but add more and more shares into the OS count and give us shareholders a small % back in shareholder value.
Let's hope they are ready to let us have some value in share price very soon without adding to the OS and making the calculated value of shares go down (and that would be called DILUTION, whether or not those added shares are sold into the market, those added shares still make the denominator portion of the valuation equation increase, decreasing the value of each and every share WE own - DILUTING our value).
However, at least I now know to expect this pitiful action. I just wish this company had some consideration for its shareholders, then maybe we would have some respect for the shares we own and not feel a need to trade them to eake out some kind of profit because we KNOW the company is not going to do anything to help bring our profits into view.
And ZING!!!!, Thar she goes.
Get ready for the plucking.
Exactly! That is what I was saying yesterday and have said for months now, but many on here cannot stand to see that reality.
WAIT FOR IT, wait for it, it will come.
OMG, It is right on the filing from last night - GO read it, Man!
ROTFLMAO, Good one!
Uhhh, We GOT some good news.
What's the next plan, LOL
Don't get me wrong, it is trading just as I had expected it to today, and I am happy to take full advantage of it.
But, I would really like to see this company do something to not only increase shareholder equity, but increase shareholder value through an increase in STOCK VALUE!
Still anxiously waiting for that to happen. Hopefully within the next week or so.
Actually, the high yesterday was .309, the low today, so far is .3205
Gap: .309 to .3205
I'm sitting there at .301 to buy back some of my trading shares.
Either it fills or it doesn't, either way I am more than ready for this to head to dollar land and stay there.
Just would add a bit of extra umph if those traders were on board with the core, LOL.
I'm seeing at least 65,000 shares on the bid right now down to .33. Looks like OK support, not great, but still has some buying interest.
Not quite sure what you are talking about. I did not see it. I was watching another stock and just clicked back over.
Probably just the typical trading movement as people watch the stock and get a bit frustrated that it doesn't move as fast as they want. Peeps get too excited and when they see a lull, they decide to get out instead of wait for the interest to pick back up.
IMO, there are good odds that it will get filled within the next three trading days. I bet we see it make a fast and furious dip down to around .30 and then, the rockets will fire and this will be off to above .50, and hopefully beyond.
Of important note: With that new shareholder equity value of $17.37M, that is a per share equity value of .75.
Of even more significance is that we have SEQUENTIAL INCREASE in shareholder equity, which is one of the best parameters to get serious investors interested.
That little fact makes all this continual OS increase a tad more palatable.
The Three most significant things:
Positive:
1) Shareholder equity increased from $14.6M in Sept. 2011 to $17.375M as of Dec 31, 2011. That is an increase in value of a bit less than $3M in just 1 quarter - VERY POSITIVE!!!! IMO
2) VERY NICE presentation obviously meant to attract institutional investors' attention, so it suggests that the company is staged to let this puppy move up finally
Could be negative for some, neutral for others:
Another huge increase in the OS from 16M shares in Nov., 2011 to 22.6M shares in Dec., 2011.
Did you not notice the NUMBERS????
The $14 million number has been posted several times, HOWEVER, the $17 million number has been posted by noone until I posted it.
That is another $3million in shareholder equity and that matters to none of you????????
What EVERYbody on here has seemed to miss tonight is this little tidbit:
Look at page 15: Estimated shareholder equity as of Dec. 31, 2011 is $17,375,000.
I am shocked no one has posted this yet???
Sure do HATE that dilution, but we all knew it was happening, though many wanted to act like it was not. AND it is STILL happening right through yesterday, and probably tomorrow.
The question is: Is there still more to come with the imminent increase in price that we expect, or will the company finally let it breathe a bit so that it can get to over $1, and hold that share price for an extended time?
So, you think we get another 10% drop tomorrow???
Probably not; so it looks like I won't get those trading shares back just yet, or maybe at all.
However, I'm hoping that the continual rise in share price is getting revved up, getting ready for a nice run that will make me much, MUCH happier than those 10 to 30% moves of the past months.
It is certainly about time for that kind of payback after all the time I have been in here.
Good Luck with your decisions.
Well, well. It certainly looks like I will get my 5 cents plus a bit more tomorrow, LOL.
Let's hope it continues up to where we can make some real serious money.
Longs may not care for those flipping this for a few hundred to a few thousand dollars a flip, but it pays while you wait for the solid gains to finally come to fruition.
Hopefully, this news will start a new step in SAPX's developments and us longterm shareholders can finally reap some of the benefits for having held shares for more than 6 months waiting for them to develop the plan.
I desernve those kind of rewards just as much as many other longs here that have waited this thing out.
Good luck all, and I hope this is the start of the big move we have been patiently (and sometimes, not so patiently) hoping and waiting for.
OK, looks like we will have another day to play in the mirky wading pool before they hit her hard with a load of new shares, or finally decide to release some news of significance to give her some suppport.
Come on, Come on.
I'm waiting on that 10% drop for today. Will it happen, or will I have to wait for another day? Hmmmm
Right now, it looks like it may try to jump above that fake support again - then it'll be just another buy I'll have to wait a bit longer for, Hmmmm.
You know, have to wait until I can at least see 5 cents or more rise in the pattern.
Not gonna happen this week here so far without some news; and we all know how dependable SAPX is for giving us good news with helpful info, LOL.
Now, I'm on the edge of my seat!!!
What will it do in the last hour?????, Hmmmm.
Gotta find some way to make this boring game of watching paint dry a bit entertaining, LOL.
Fake support holds - retail buys bags.
Then conversions hits hard, fake support breaks, retail holders' bags are under water now.
Me no like buying above fake support, much prefer buying once stabilizes below fake support.
Oh No, not for a penny, but for 5 cents or more, that works for me. I've made over $5,000 in the past few months doing such, while my other option is to just sit here and watch my account value drop.
I like the first option much better. 8>)
Laugh all you want. My thoughts were that, AS I HAVE SEEN SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE, they would hold the price up above a strong-APPEARING support for most of the day to get as good a price as possible for their conversions, and then toward the end of the day, they would finally accept lower prices and drop below the support. Just as it has done so far today.
Often, they have sooooooo many shares that they are trying to dump into the market, that the price will drop 10% or so before the close of the day. Let's just wait and see before all the laughing gets to a cackling level.
Sometimes, it does better, and only drops 3 to 4%. Let's hope today is one of the days it does better. So far today, it has already dropped to 3% below yesterday's close, and recovered a little. Will it go for more before the end of the day? Don't know, place your bets one way or the other, ROTFLOL.
However, the point is: I like knowing what to expect from the pattern so that I am not buying above the fake support and I have the wisdom to wait until the "bottom drops out" of their manipulation of price, at which time they will sell more shares into the market. SOMETIMES, a good time to buy; for a quick trade that is.
Well, for certain, it CONFIRMED what I thought it was going to do.
Whether you want to call that CONFIRMATION of my thoughts or not, that was CONFIRMATION for me.
Pick another word that might be better, say??? it JUSTIFIED what I thought it was going to do? Does that work?
There they go: CINN and EDGX, always doing that unscrupulous work.
Conversions (dilution) at play here yet again?
Oh My!!!
It has already started (as I was typing that last message), and it did not even wait for the last hour, Hmmmm.
I've seen this type of trading action several times before on SAPX.
I think I have figured out the pattern for days like today. I'm anxiously awaiting the last hour of trading to see how it plays out. Confirmation of what I think it will do would be very interesting for me.
All trust has been lost in this company due to its inability to get things done efficiently.
Now, even any trust in trading it is gone because peeps have no idea of what to expect from this POS.
My last trade a couple of weeks ago gave me decent profits, but I am not about to touch the trading range right now.
Just sitting with a core position which I have pared down by about 15% because I do NOT trust what this company is doing, and its deceptive PRs that give only one fifth of the details about the deals they are doing.
Very Scary company, IMHO.
Well, there goes THAT idea.
Got another one?, LOL
Something is VERY WRONG with how this stock trades, and I am convinced that Hoffman knows exactly how it is being done and that he & his cohorts are reaping the benefits.
Man-O-Man, they are working HARD to hold this down.