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Given that Momona Capital own 10% of the stock now, effective 31 July, and legal cases I have perused for the past ten years indicate that Momona takes no crap, and that Momona holds half their position for at least six months before they cash in any (always making a nice wee profit), looks to me that these backy-chewing boys have a plan that looks right appealing to some.
Looks like I am going to jump in for the ride, too. Something appears as though it might be brewing. And it isn't moonshine.
They did respond. They responded after mid July with the two week efficacy data. Did you not read the PR? Did you not look at the dates? Did you not make the time correlation?
There is absolutely nothing to indicate that all the shares would be dumped into the market at once. Nothing about historical practices. Nothing in the prelim. Nothing.
Nor does it indicated that it would require him to utilize the entire 3 billion. Maybe, just maybe if this stock could do what it should be doing, the contract for the Min technology would have been done without the need for consideration of such dilution.
When thieves steal we all pay.
Koos and the company are not the thieves.
You are very welcome. Thank you.
I did answer you. Where said answer is, I do not know.
Note: Though I do very much appreciate your confidence, the word "advice" is kind of scary to me as I am not a professional stock adviser. My position in this company is substantial, like many, and is based on my own dd and confidence in Regen. But I will be the first to admit I am no stock guru.
I guess that is my disclaimer.
To answer your question about when to expect FDA determination, it really can be anytime, in my opinion. The company PR'd evidence that they provided the FDA with the final bit of scientific evidence they sought in round two of the Q&A. Since efficacy was the point at hand and not safety, it would appear that they require no further information than that that was provided sometime before 17 July 2013.
As I have stated, if the FDA established a proviso at the onset that stipulated Regen must wait for their final approval in writing before initiating trials, one can expect it to be a minimum of 30 days before such confirmation is in hand. It is not a rule the 30 days in such a case. But it is sort of a given in these types of matters.
Now, if the FDA did not impose a proviso, Regen will be free to initiate trials 30 days after confirmation of receipt of the data by the FDA. I am guessing the 30 days to be somewhere between the 5th and the 14th of August if this is the case based on the 14 days required to complete the study for efficacy.
At any given time that any other country accepts their application for trials, Regen can initiate trials. They are ABSOLUTELY not bound by any law that requires them to commence such trials only in the United States. As a matter of fact, IF by some goofy chance the FDA denies them trials for HemaXellerate, they can begin trials elsewhere in as little time as it takes the other country to process the application. In many other places, such is in a lot less time that what the US requires.
There are a number of countries looking to assist in the treatments that Regen are trying to put in place.
Does this answer you questions?
Indeed we do. And I would like to call to everyone's attention the wise advice CJstockholder provided: Patience is best and making sure all of us shareholders keep the bids support large so when the ask get's hit they will be forced to move up
We longs know what we are invested in with BMSN. Sure, things haven't gone exactly as we would like. But, it is imperative we guard our investment as we would guard anything else that is dear to us; do not let those who live their lives off of ill-gotten gains bully us out of what we know we have by way of nefarious play. Hold tight and keep that support firm!
He is talking about games. He has no idea whether or not approval have been granted. Only the FDA & Regen know the status. You should iggy him.
Hi CJ, the Benitec deal information is actually The POPO's post--he found it even before it hit the US wires. It's just that the title doesn't give it away.
Interesting... 5 BILLION AS IS A DONE DEAL
You went from:
(citing only what will be construed as a negative without even mentioning the monumental purchases involved in the prelim)
To:
Believe it not I will share an optimistic narrow view later when I have time
In a matter of moments.
Very interesting.
With respect to shorting a subpenny stock (or the lack there of as it is insisted by some), would someone enlighten me on this?
[02/01/2013 06:00 PST] BMSN, Removed From Naked Short Lists Today
[01/25/2013 06:00 PST] BMSN, Added To Naked Short Lists Today
Since the stock traded 002 to 004 during this time, and I know I am not a stock guru, but I can figure numbers a wee bit and that looks like a subpenny price to me.
Am I missing something?
Thanks!
Through BMSN DD. I like what i See here.
That is very interesting, Sabai. Interesting indeed.
Your investment in MEDS is a wise one no doubt.
CJ, you obviously have some wisdom in the world of penny stock trading. Far surpasses my knowledge in OTC trading to be sure. So, with that, I have a question or two:
If in fact not a single MM is party to the constant barrage this stock endures, and it is the flipper who has successfully manipulated the pps and the sentiment for so long, that is causing all the headaches, what can we do in our efforts to thwart this?
Going back several months, it appears to me that they are nowhere near bored with manipulating this stock. So, if in fact it is a case of a band of common bleep, bleep, bleeps, whacking at the knees by a small amount even after a large buy in at the ask or above, coupled with them successfully instilling fear and panic, subsequently causing people to dump their shares, how do you break that resistance and gain momentum without literally causing them to desist?
Thank you.
So, what you're trying to say is that expecting an FDA response in 30 days is pretty silly? And anyone who dumped, oh I don't know, millions and millions of shares based on misinformation and fear should feel right salty?
You're drawing parallels...am I on the right track here?
BMSN...Fully reporting.
BMSN...Business plan has direction.
BMSN...Koos has assembled personnel to take this company to the next level.
BMSN...Posters on this board have educated its followers for months now of the potential.
BMSN...Industry is ready for new approaches on method of treatment for cancer.
BMSN...Is Locked and Loaded
Yes indeed! There can no longer be any doubt that this company is very much real. They haven't moved at the speed of sound in terms of updates, but it is undeniable that they are not at all what they have been accused for so long.
---There have been 15 SEC filings since the end of May.
---Several PR's have been released just in the past couple of weeks confirming for we investors that what they have promised in terms of the timeline, they surely are in full gear to deliver.
---The FDA IND submission is irrefutable.
---Patent Licensing & ownership to see these treatments come to fruition are irrefutable.
---We have some of the brightest & best scientists with credentials and accolades that are enviable by many working to deliver treatments that the world is long over due for
--irrebloodyfutable!
Droning on and on about complex matters not understood or appreciated (i.e., the need for an A/S increase so that they can continue to do as they need to see the future unfold, why the FDA didn't approve the IND in the amount of time predicted by so many) is counterproductive.
No one with any real commitment to this investment--that has perused the small library of information available on the internet as well as the dd provided here--should be without confidence that yes, setbacks are bound to occur in the world of cancer treatment/cures but OMG will the not-so-distant future benefits far outweigh these wee hiccups.
This is not a get rich quick scheme. Nor has it long to remain fodder for the avaricious.
Thank you crankitup for your generous and thoughtful post.
BMSN!
Cowboy, now you KNOW those shares are to pay overhead and the associated costs to ensure that Regen BioPharma remain leagues ahead of their counter-parts in stem cell and RNA/DNA science. Surely you understand that sometimes we have to sacrifice a little in order to gain a lot! And that is if we actually see the increase as it is outlined in the prelim.
I bet you didn't know that the dilution of ENTB is to secure financing for cutting edge treatments of canine cancer. ? ? A market that is well into the billions itself.
I said nothing of the sort! My position now is as it has always been: we can find out any day.
What part of my posts did you not understand?
BMSN
Not quite sure yet. There are a number of unknowns here with respect to possibilities/promise of income being generated. The Benitec deal adds to that promise.
Short term, A/S increase scares me a wee bit. For the long term however, not at all.
If nothing is concrete by the end of the month I do hope to find out as much as the law allows regarding the A/S increase proposal. As well as a number of other things that may result in Dr. Koos telling me he can talk no more from the massive headache he has developed from all my questions. :)
A: Treatment IND is submitted for experimental drugs showing promise in clinical testing for serious or immediately life-threatening conditions while the final clinical work is conducted and the FDA review takes place.
A: Commercial
However, this is not a drug. This is a stem cell therapy treatment . Still very much new in FDA consideration standards. The FDA has yet to write the book on how to regulate the living daylights out of it or what they need to do to make it that much harder on the developer.
Given that it is not a drug, the approach taken by the FDA will be a bit different. The template that has been used for so long to scrutinize, consider and ultimately determine approval or denial for IND applications cannot be used at it has been for so long. This is different and with it carries different risks and benefits that the FDA still are not up-to-date with to some degree.
Therefore, since this is something very much different from what are generally faced with, it was/is going to take them a bit more time to evaluate it and confer to determine if all measures have been taken by the applicant to ensure the process of human trials are conducted as they should be.
Plus, the FDA are slow.
It is kind of like taking in a rescue animal when you already have several, all of which are set in their ways--you quickly learn that although they are all dogs with pretty much the same requirements, you can't quite place the new member in with the others and feel comfortable leaving them alone. You have to take time to understand his/her personality, fears & quirks. And this might take a wee while as you figure exactly what you have to do to really familiarize yourself. Eventually, you have a pretty good understanding of the new addition and unless the new member of the clan turns out to be an aggressor with major issues, he/she will fit right in soon enough and things will move along as they should.
Have I mentioned, too, that the FDA are slow?
With that in mind, understand that since this is not a typical case, the typical turnaround time should not be expected. But, it can be expected anytime and only the FDA knows when.
BMSN
The trusted FDA:
www.forbes.com/sites/davidmaris/2012/10/10/fda-recall-points-to-serious-problems-at-the-fda/
(I have lots of such reading)
So, you really think because they say IND approval/denial is typically within thirty days, it really is typically withinin thirty days? Nothing about what the FDA says should be taken with anything less than a great deal of skepticism.
Educate yourself on your government, people. The US government wrote the book on stonewalling, red tape, perfunctory performance and delay. But, if you have all your ducks in a row and are steadfast, you, too can overcome this beast!
Hold up...is this the same state of Alabama where gold has been struck since the Western settlement made lots of people, well, lots of money? Would this company, who just acquired 15% of royalties of gold production in parcels of land in a state that is KNOWN for its gold production be talking about the SAME Alabama? That being Alabama, USA. Gold can be found in the igneous and metamorphic rocks of Alabama's Piedmont physiographic section. The Wedowee Schist, a metamorphic rock found in northeastern Alabama that formed at the same time as the Appalachian Mountains, is known to contain gold. Recorded gold-mining districts in the state tend to follow a general southwest-northeast trend roughly lining up with the Appalachian Mountain range. The largest occurrence was found in the Hog Mountain District of Tallapoosa County in 1839. It has produced about 25,000 ounces of gold, or about half of Alabama's total gold production. Other major districts include the Eagle Creek and Goldville districts of Tallapoosa County and the Arbacoochee district of Cleburne County.
Am I correct in this being the same Alabama?
Now, I am no specialists in gold (although, being a girl, I do like it although my real preference is silver, truth be told). and I don't chew backy and have a shotgun (well I do, but that is beside the point) but looks to me like people are doing a whole lot more in Alabama than shootin' coons and standing guard. Although, as a girl, I do like it. But, seems to me that they very well may be on to something here!
Wow! Look at those typos.
I would like to share an answer I provided a member this morning in a private message. There are a few modifications. But the meat of it is contained below. I wish I knew or could really speculate. If the FDA put in place a proviso, stipulating Regen had to wait for physical or verbal confirmation or denial during the first round of Q&A, lord knows how long it could take. I don't mean years, mind you. But, the government is all screwed and people are not doing their jobs. This is the most inefficient band of civil servants I have ever had the misfortune of knowing.
Please note that the contents of this message is very much relative to BMSN as it is a response I provided to a request for my professional opinion as to when I think FDA approval for HemaXellerate can be expected:
I will give you a case and point: I received insider info on very pertinent information for a particular drug marketed by a very large BP. The info was about an alarming number of patients dying from anaphylaxis within the first thirty minutes of receiving the marketed treatment. It was an anomaly, happening only in Tennessee, Virginia & West Virginia at that time. I was told about this by someone working directly with the BP who had just quit her job with said BP because she was instructed to either shut up or get out--that the data and additional info for this anomaly doesn't actually exist.
So, she quit.
Since she had divulged this to me, I had a legal and moral obligation to report what I was told directly to the FDA. I did so using the contact numbers that I had through work and attempted a second complaint anonymously. I BS you not when I say, I could not file a complaint anonymously; there was no live person to talk to in the complaints division, only recordings. And when I pushed the matter, repeatedly going through their main call center, I always found myself talking to a less-than-concerned, civil servant, that could not adequately articulate the Queen's English and never had an answer to my questions. She insisted, "just keep calling back until you get someone".
For two days that "someone" never answered.
It amazes me that people think because it is posted on the FDA website as being protocol, such protocol is followed. Not even close.
Personally, I am amazed that they made it as far as they did as fast as they did with the FDA. That tells me that they included one kick butt report with their application.
Personally, I am rather impressed. And I don't say that because I have so much vested in them. I say that because I know first hand, in more ways than one, what it is like trying to work with the US government in 2013. It's no fun. It's hard work.
BMSN
I see a stem cell treatment for that in the near future, courtesy our beloved BMSN! ;)
Have a blast!
Thank you.
I believe that few understand the potential with respect to the Benitec agreement and that many are ready to discount it as they have so many other significant advancements this company has made. Just as they have viciously attacked the company's A/S increases as nothing more than Dr. Koos lining his pockets. When in reality, this company that has been diligently working to secure products to be sold has utilized these increases as means to pay the bills, fund research, secure allegiances with prominent and respected teams and maintaining autonomy.
They do not move at the behest of any governmental agencies because they are functioning off a grant or another form of public assistance. They are doing all that they have promised they would do and doing so privately.
I agree that the pps will not move significantly until something that can can seen to the layperson as monumental can be provided. Of course that is FDA approval of HemaXellerate or a source of funding by an entity that offers the "wow" effect so many need.
This does not negate the fact however that they have made their way, quite successfully, over some rather significant hurdles and are still standing with their feet firmly in place.
I truly believe the pps is heavily manipulated. That this stock, as with many before it and many after it I fear, the weaknesses of the less than informed investor coupled with the strong arm of manipulators is causing this pps to pretty much stall as it has.
I firmly believe that this Benitec deal attaches to it a great promise for the company that many were not expecting. The opportunities, by way of affiliation, if nothing else, spells gret promise for the company. Perhaps when they are better able to rub elbows so-to-speak with some of those that they are not indirectly involved with, more attention will paid by those who are in a position to thwart the nefarious actions of a few.
I have seen it many times in this business. There is no reason why Regen should be the exception.
Again, thank you.
What I think you are missing about the significance of yesterday's PR is the degree of credibility Regen established for themselves in the world of pharma. I beg to differ that it was not quite significant; these types of licensing's are not granted to just anyone. There was quite a bit of work that went into it and part of that work was Regen establishing & proving that they are worthy of the partnership.
In the world of biologics & pharma, that was very huge.
I hear ya on that one. LOL.
I am thinking before September, too. And, as DK has pointed out, some house cleaning needs to be done. I guess we have seen, too, in the last couple of days, with some weaker ones jumping ship, like OTCdoc and dumping his 10 million shares for no good reason, and I believe some lower than what he paid for them (???), that if we do get rid of all the weights holding this stock down, the next run might be a right perty one. :)
I will have a drink to that! :D
Very fine post! Thank you.
BMSN
Thank you! Very wise words. I do hope those with even a modicum of doubt heed these words.
Go BMNS!
LOL!
Between the two of ya, I had to mooove away from my screen to keep from spitting my coffee in the laughter.
I am not forgetting, Meach, about all the suckling yet to be done. I often ponder what kind of effect these treatments will have in markets where people refuse traditional treatments out of fear of drugs/needles or religious or societal beliefs. Or the restricted and non-existent care due to the costs.
I consider it all.
That coupled with the reputation's of and discoveries made by the doctor's that have worked closely together for some time and all the proof I have read in that pudding known as publications, I have little doubt this company is going to continue to do greater things.
BMSN!
You're suggesting what because the pps hasn't skyrocketed yet? That the company is not moving forward with what they have promised? That they are not that much closer to introducing groundbreaking treatments to various worldwide markets? That the science that has been proven successful in treating diseases plaguing the world for eons is not in the palm of their hands, just waiting to be released is not a reality? That a little company with the right idea, thinking outside the box, can't successfully plant their feet in a trillion dollar market with sciences that have been long since modified until perfection is achieved?
What exactly is your claim? Why hasn't this pps increased dramatically? Impart your wisdom to the rest of us so that we can drop all that we do and follow your lead. For, you obviously have an insight that trumps that of the brains behind the science that is Regen BioPharma/BMSN.
Please, do enlighten us all.
BMSN!
Which science would that be? Treating debilitating and fatal diseases through proliferation with the stem cell therapy? Or, silencing cancerous genes?
Did you really mean to ask whether or not other markets have an interest in this? Or, is there another part you forgot to include?
Absolutely. The taboo associated with stem cell treatment pales in so many other places than here. This is due in large part to ignorance as when many here or see "stem cell" they automatically assume such cells only come from one place.
Educating the masses about the true nature of stem cell treatment has been a priority to many other countries. It is sad that such is not the case here. But, I suppose we are getting better with it.
Further, gene silencing is new. And, again, the concept scares some people. These people like to keep such from being considered as a viable treatment. This is not the case elsewhere.
BMSN are doing exactly what they should. And what they promised.
What is most telling to me about the Benitec collaboration is not only who Benitec partner with in their gene silencing programs but that Benitec are an Australian company with considerable experience in maneuvering through governmental regulations for trials & treatments. Who, by the way, are not nearly as complicated to contend with as the US FDA. Then, few are, IMHO.
I have said it before and I will say it again, just because BMSN are an American company they are not prohibited from testing & marketing their treatments outside the US. They are posturing themselves on providing to markets worldwide. Worldwide markets are liking what they see in BMSN.
LONG & STRONG BMSN
Soon, I hope. There is so much in ENTB that few know about. And that goes back to what has been made easily accessible and identifying for the public. Work to be done. But, it will happen for them, too.
You don't think I am preaching to the choir though, do you? ;)
They won't always have the control to keep this as low as they have.
One step at a time...but they are going to keep on stepping until they get there. All the way there. And you know where that is! :)
BMSN!
GO BMSN!