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Not sure if it's settlement or SS taking the lead with Rosen in the Bkkgroud or out all together.
Ilene, they way I read the filing about the transcripts is that it was not available via electronically till October...maybe I'm misinterpreting them but it seems as though you can view them only at the courthouse live and in person...correct me if I'm wrong.
However, it doesn't hurt to try since you are most likely the closest person to the court...lol you can just reach out and touch it if you want...LOL
Lunch is on me next hearing for your troubles!!!!! :)
OMG it just hit me...this last sentence from the transcript is key! What in the hell could they possibly discuss that would yield an understanding to the multitude of issues (all the items on the Agenda)we are adjourning today! It can't possibly be the examiner or documents because they would only be specific to certain items on the agenda certainly not a multitude, but maybe both combined or perhaps something else...hmmm just my two cents...back to lurking I go, just my thoughts on this.
hopefully these discussions we are going to be having on Monday will yield an understanding with respect to the multitude of issues we are adjourning today.
Just noticed something special...just wanna say special thanks to the mods I appreciate the very kind gesture. Don't know who but big special THANKS MODS!!!! I owe all of you rounds if I ever meet y'all!!!
Thanks mehedi. All I gotta say is if this hits, Vegas better watchout. Lol. Also I'm going to kidnap you Ilene if wamu hits, FYI. SO SERIOUS! ;). Lol.
Even iff parts are redacted it's better than what we have now and atleAst we may be able to infer and interpert between the lines a little more precisley as to if it's docs examiner or money by reading the general conext and flow!
Not if that filing was done after hours and no one knew the chamber convo was being transcribed until they saw the filing. So mYbe Monday ppl will buy. Cause it's certainly not referring to he 45 second exchange btween the judge and rosen!!!
CAUSE WE MOST CERTAINLY DIDNT K OW TILL THAT FILING. CAUSE HAD I KNOWN EARLIER I WOULD HAVE STOPPED BY THE COURT ON MY WAY UP TO NEW JERSEY FRIM VA. THEN WE COULD HAVE EASED CONCERNS AND SOLVED THE GREAT MYSTERY RATHER THAN SPECULATING IVER THE WEEKEND!
Great.
Thanks!!!!
can anyone of us go to the COURT AND VIEW THE TRANSCRIPT IN PERSON?! if so Ilene do you mind going on Monday and viewing the transcript since your only five minutes away?
He'll if we can I'll make the two hour drive just to see what was said In chambers!
Thanks!
UZ or someone this should be stckied!
Why is the transcript restricted sid someone save a copy of it?! Lol
Kass I'm with you...but I think given all the BS, Twists and turns with this stock it is really hard to be optimistic. I am but at the same time not so much so that I'd be pissed or devastated if it was something minuscule as others have speculated and stated.
DM, they are supposed to meet and discuss...about what I don't know. I mean I really honestly don't know. I wish I could have been there to make a comment to Nelson and SS to just read there body language and face...then my a$$ would have been on here speculating all day because I would have seen first hand thier reactions and expressions to my question or statement...but really I don't know and its kinda playing with my mind. Especially the combination of waiting and not knowing if this is a simple delay or if other are in the works!
I don't use the PPS as a gauge because I got burned once before and its beyond me that we are better than we were months ago and it still sits in the same range as if this were months ago. So only time will tell I guess.
Ill just be patient and not greedy!
If I interpreted an earlier post correctly and based on what I read in the settlement filing and the fact that this person was not affiliated with EC...as he received a text from someone in chamber I am inclined to believe this probably has to do with WAHUQ!
This would make sense if SS provided something in chambers around money and numbers that made WAHUQ reps send that text to the person in the courtroom as they settled for $34 dollars vs full face of $50. If this theory is correct than that statement alludes to the fact there is significantly more money out there than what has been portrayed. So much more that WAHUQ had they held out till now would have gotten full face at $50.
Okay no more speculating for me...ALL IMHO based on what I've read and the circumstances around the text and the details in Ilene's post about who received the text.
But then again what do I know I'm just your average investor and the twitter dude!!!! :)
My last post courtesy of Ilene...she wanted me to tell everyone that she is will post after work today and answer any question that folks post.
Thank you. Alright I'm lurking till I get my 15 posts tomorrow all out of ammunition. Now Ill actually get some work done!
Agreed William...agreed...this too is my line of thinking. Complete adjournment with no regard to the time issues we face regarding other matters that are time sensitive besides discovery and examiner...i.e. TPS, claims, shareholders meeting and etc. Must have been something big for them to all agree too as reps from interest group were in chambers as well!
Vodoo, my guess is that she was referring to the Monday meeting to keep the matters moving forward, but I don't know.Maybe she is smart enough to throw clues out while masking them at the same time...I just know this her words were a very different tone and use then when she has previously told council to get together and work things out. Resolution is black and white to me and different than agreement. But who the he!! knows. Just my observation based on the hearings I have been to and calls listening in on.
I only have on more post left...so Ill save it for later...back to lurking I go.
Then why would she advise council as she did in chambers if there is a resolution before the 20th to submit it so she could consider it? It's odd that she spoke out like this and gave some insight and glimpse normally she would have just said okay adjourned till the 20th!
I don't believe it is about DS, Examiner or Discovery. Like others have pointed out with Susman there he or Nelson would have argued these points in Court vs in chambers. Plus they know what BR's game is and know that he wont hand over documents...hence the multiple motions for an examiner and Nelson's face when strike approached him and the UST in the elevator saying "why delay you know they are not giving you the documents"...
Today tells me there is something much more...plus the judge's use of the word "resolution" In every other hearing when there has been a conflict she has used come to an agreement or file a motion with your objections. Plus her stating she would consider a resolution presented to her before the 20th that as BR says will deal with everything pushed back to the 20th is even more telling. But I could be wrong as this is just my humble opinion.
However, I what I do believe to be FACT is that the motion to seal was a game changer!!!!
I asked Ilene if she had any insight or intel on what the judge meant by "resolution!" and this is her response "From all I could glean...they were talking settlement!"
And I will leave it at that!
OOPS wrong bored!
Glad I didnt go will be there on the 2oth though...
Interesting, from the judge "if there is a resolution before July 20th submit it to me and it will be considered!" WOW resolution sounds big to me IMHO!
I asked Ilene "That's what your hearing right now?!" Ilene said, "YES"
# lene , says " more attornies being called out. too big to be about DS...new intel says its good for equity...whatever is happening" less than 5 seconds ago via web
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Nelson just asked Dorothea to talk to him outside the court room. A few seconds later most attorneys left the room (including the big guns)
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Ilene, said "I've heard something about the expense ceiling...but that doesn't make sense to me...to many attorneys called in." less than 5 seconds ago via web
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Ilene says she "thinks it was the same one...although sevral convos alluded to there being a few last min changes! 2 minutes ago via web
Can someone post my tweets, I know this is important and important questions before the hearing, but I only have 15 posts and am down to 11 remaining. So someone with a membership please posts my tweets that responds and answers important question while we wait for the hearing to begina and also post my tweets once I run out of posts during the hearing...ill notify my post count in my last post...THANKS.
I inquired with Ilene about them leaving and coming back at 11:30..her response " chambers...some1 from every interest group." per ilene's text...
FYI not sure what this means and I will surely not speculate as I am not in court...I did ask Ilene for her thoughts! Will post if they are substantive, but they would just be her very honest OPINION based on what she says and hears in the courtroom thus far!
All big guns have been called into chambers! per text from Ilene
mehedi uniquelytrill is twitter and court postponed till 11:30
I am catz, it's chris uniquelytrill though I am not at the hearing I will be listening in and tweeting from my computer. and Also posting texts from Ilene on IHUB and via tweeter. Only twelve post remaining on IHUB so when they run out if she texts me that much Ill post all her texts via twitter. I tweeted @ pham and told him to introduce himself to Ilene not sure he has or recived my tweet!
Susman is there and so is Nelson. Rosen walked in around the same time they did...per texts from Ilene!
FYI I'm not at the hearing but will listen in and post tweets. The only time I will post on Ihub is if I receive a text from Ilene about what's going on in the courtroom. :)
I will be doing play by play via twitter and Ilene will text me. If Ilenes textit's are of substance and beneficial to the board (not just our bantering to eachother) I will post those on ihub. Otherwise Im not posting on ihub, I'll leave posting of my tweets on ihub up to someone else or whomever usually does it if anyone does at all. Gtla of us.
LOL trip is ass and say ooops did I do that...LOL
Yup still have it and that would be great.
I don't think strike tweets and he will not be at court tomorrow either. I believe Ilene will be the only person physically there...and she does not tweet, but will provide a report after court based on her previous post!
Sorry mehdi...but no worries hopefully some rulings from the judge will make up from my absence. But Ill be sure to pay attention to her tone as I'm familiar when she is irritated with council! :)
Yes knee...and will most def tweet as I know some ppl cant call in and I can and at least provide play by play that way just not there live so Ill miss out on some of the reporting on body language and facial expressions. LOL I'm confident I can interpret tone into emotions but will refrain since I'm not there live and in person...
Yeah it sucks and of course out of all the ones a potential big game changing one and as Ilene elluded to maybe the last but I doubt that....;).
But I will tweet for those that can't listen....to help some what since I won't have as many posts on here as I would tweeting...and hopefully Ilene will provide me some texts live from the court room that I can relay via twitter. Plus should be faster since Ill be tweeting from my computer vs phone!
Hi Ilene and Strike I won't be able to make it to the hearing this time. Got some things to wrap up at work and I gotta get a minor arthroscopic surgery done in the am. But I will be listening in on the call. Ill text you throughout the hearing. For those of you that can't call in Ill still tweet as ill be on the line, but not there to give play by play regarding body language and faces.
But it looks like its going to be a big day....
Yup...now I'm still debating if Ill come up wed night or Thursday morning. Heading to NJ for the weekend so will leave from the hearing to NJ!
Oooooooooooooooooh I do...I do...I do, oooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh I do! :)
Agreed Vodoo and its kinda funny. But Vodoo, I would wait to say something until later on. Not at this point and time and not at the meeting on the 8th, primarily because we don't know what those discussions are between the EC and debtors and we don't want to add any fuel or say something that could lend it self to formulate a plan or be used against us. On two seperate occasions we have inquired with Nelson about standing up in court to speak and reading body language and intial reaction it was clear they have things under control...
If you still feel inclined, Ill support you as I know you are passionate for us to have a just and fair resolution. Trust I've wanted to stand up many times and say something, but also know how I am and know that there would be some expletives and disregard for authority...thank god for twitter keeps me busy and thoughts of doing something insanely wild and crazy! Look forward to meeting a fellow crazy @$$ person. LOL
Twitter is uniquelytrill!
As of right now I am going. Unless this conference for work happens. But ill let everyone know one way or another. But we should be well represented on the 8th with ppl texting and posting updates on the board!