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Great observation, Tom. We've all been saying that for months, TDGI is PROFITABLE. We can't say it enough. Missteps aside, they still have a PROFITABLE core business. So true that many other spec plays are hugely red on their filings - oh wait, they don't even have filings, do they?
Anyone curious....
Why each filing has the library valued at $22,315,337? That is a VERY specific number, don't you think?
TDGI Still Profitable...
Total Revenues: 178,938
Cost of Sales is: 68,888
Gross Profit is: 110,050
General & Admin Expenses is: 113,344
Income or (Loss) from Operations is: (3,294)
Other Income (Expense) / Intl. Sales is: 72,180
Income or Loss Before Taxes is: 68,886
Agreed. As evidenced by the trading, there's little action one way or the other. Most here are very patient and are willing to wait. I think most people have enough understanding of the English language to get that September 9 was only a target date. Sure I'm disappointed, but to me it never was or is about one event. The sum is greater than one individual part.
It's a long shot is all I can say. But based on his prediction, I've gotten my trading account primed. Just waiting for the prophecy to come true:)
Are you still willing to make a wager from this post?
Top of the morning to you, Hokie. Let's see what today has in store for TDGI...
Everyone needs to realize that the moderators on this board are here for one reason only, and that is to enforce the TOU of ihub as it pertains to the TDGI board. I've seen many folks suggest lately that the moderators must be in cahoots with the folks posting lies and are deleting posts when people defend against those lies. I can see why it seems like that, but here's really what's happening. A poster posts a bunch of lies and nonsense on topic about TDGI, such as the CEO is a pump and dump and doesn't intend to ever put out audited financials. We all know those are blatant lies. But the responses from people defending against that are "hey moron" or "you idiot" and things such as that. The unfortunate part is that oftentimes the defenses against the lies are great except that somewhere in the response you call out the original lying poster and attack him/her. You can't do that. And if you're moderating and you don't uphold the TOU, you won't be a moderator very long.
You've got to realize those that post lies and half truths know how to play the game very well. They don't ever get personal, they stick to TDGI and post their lies about TDGI all within the TOU. They are afforded the same rights as we are to post positive, truthful statements about TDGI.
Are you guys going to be outsmarted by them? If you are and you continue to post personal attacks, your posts will be deleted. Likewise, if the detractors get even a hint personal, their posts get deleted too. I dislike it as much as everyone else, but that is the universe we operate in here on ihub.
Best,
Jeff
Time2play, you are flat out lying. You have no facts to back up any of what you said. Readers beware. If you want to debate facts about TDGI, we can go there. But to post your opinions as facts when they are nothing more than conjecture is reprehensible. Don't bother responding, I won't acknowledge you or any other nonsensical posts further. I suggest my fellow readers do the same.
This stock has never reacted as all the prognosticators have predicted. We're flat or up when we're supposed to be down, and we're down when we're supposed to be up. I think .01s is a little far fetched simply because there's no dilution occurring here. The market cap at .02 would be $9 million and change. Come on, really? We've had clever folks trying to push it down as low as possible the past several months, and yet we haven't stayed down here long. Why is that? Oh, that's because the company isn't selling more shares.
If the financials don't hit tomorrow and people are pissed and sell, I think there's a ton of people (including myself) who have a ton of cash for a rainy day.
I will concede that I for one will be ticked if those financials aren't here tomorrow or Friday as this "target date" could have been avoided with tighter lips. But does that mean I'm walking away or will let my emotions control me? No way. I lose money when emotions control me. Despite all the stumblings of TDGI over the past few months, I wholeheartedly believe this is a nice growth stock for the long term. There are catalysts out there that can and will propel this much higher. I see the audited financials as one of them. They just may not all come on MY timeline, and I'm okay with that. Until there is any dilution, I for one won't entertain or respond to the nonsensical posts insinuating this is just another pink sheet scam.
Thank you for the cheap 400,000 shares today. Let's do this again tomorrow.
Go ahead and drop the ask nice and tight to the bid, I'll snatch up another quarter million shares. Don't you want to let your shares go cheap?
I think a good clue as to what the library valuation will indicate is to look at the Q1 2010 filing. They were filed I believe in June, and Eric had a very good idea I'd bet at that time what the value would be. Hint, it's north of $20 million:)
That's pretty good, LOL. Some would have you think they're teetering on the verge of bankruptcy. TDGI is just fine.
Looks like the name of the game was seed doubt one day, then drive it down the next. Longs like myself will be once again taking advantage of these great prices. TDGI is severely undervalued in the .02s...
We're getting closer and closer to transparency. As soon as the financials are filed (hopefully by the target date), there will be some much needed relief here. Until then, I guess we'll have to hear over and over again all that's wrong with TDGI. But supposed things aren't as bad as are being portrayed here? Suppose their core business is profitable. What then?
While things aren't all rosy - as every poster here acknowledges, I refuse to say that TDGI is going down the wrong path and is in financial trouble. There is no source who can confirm that other than the company themselves. The fact that some claim to have *sources* on this is laughable, and I'm pretty sure every reader knows that. But in case you don't, take everything you read here with a grain of salt.
No worries folks, we're going to be just fine.
So here's what we have to look forward to
In the next trading week, audited financials should be posted for all to see, thus removing anyone's fears that TDGI isn't a real company and never intended to file audited financials - or if they even did them for that matter. Also, thus proving that they are a legitimate pink sheet company willing to file audited financials for the necessary transparency for more investors to invest.
We also are expecting in the short term news about Terminator T3000. We haven't seen a retraction from Hannover House nor have we seen any statement from Pacificor, the hedge fund they're negotiating with. We do know the cease and desist letter was retracted the next day via the most recent filing on pink sheets (wonder why some folks conveniently leave this important piece of info from the filing out... whoops): We also know that as of this writing, 13 business days has passed since TDGI and Pacificor first met to discuss the possibility of doing the project. That bodes well for those wanting to see TDGI get to do T3000 since our CEO has the animation rights to the Terminator franchise. 13 business days and not a word. Advantage, longs.
We also look forward to Q2 filings that may contain the latest valuation of their library to include 2010 acquisitions/deals. End of the quarter is only 3 weeks away, then maybe we'll have them at some point in October. If the library valuation is updated in this filing, this will be the largest event to occur to date for Hannover House. That valuation could be a game changer for trading at these levels if book value is established at multiples of where we're trading. No way it's going to be anywhere near our current PPS either way. Advantage, longs.
Also, per Speckulater's post recapping a snippet from the most recent filing, we apparently also have to shortly look forward to uplisting news.
It is the company’s intention to use the full audits from Hogan Taylor to initiate the required steps to become a fully-compliant / fully-reporting company, and thus facilitate and expedite the opportunities to move onto the OTC-Bulletin Board or other trading exchanges.
As you've said before, those numbers don't mean much. Not a true gauge of what's being sold short and what's not. What will be nice is when any concrete news hits, it's easy to forget how much of this float is in good hands. That in my experience has shown some of the more rapid inclines in PPS for a stock. This will be no different. Our day's coming...
Gonna see if there's legs to that post. If audit is finishing up today, we shall see the numbers on time next week:)
Speckulater, your post is spot on. We're not even bringing into the equation the goodwill value of the company. They only stand to further bolster their enterprise value by filing audited financials and providing some sort of guidance. Shareholders of pink sheet companies that are profitable and have audited financials historically do very well, especially when there is no dilution taking place.
It's staggering how the library value can change with 600 additions. That is the meat and potatoes of TDGI...
Great point there. What I'm not sure of, and I'll have to go back and check, is the value put on the library at the time *I believe* was before the 200 million shares were issued to remove the shell debt and for corporate financing. I think there was a consensus at the time that the library value with the full share count was .058. But as you astutely point out, that was then, this is now. And hey, if Eric was right, we're nearly 50% BELOW book value not taking into account the acquisitions this year. Yet another reason TDGI is a NO BRAINER at these levels and why, no matter how hard they try, bashers just can't seem to push it any lower.
Choppers, that very thing has been occurring over the past few months. I believe that most of the flipped shares at this point are only shares market makers are selling. True longs have been absorbing the seemingly endless shares for sale now for 8+ months. I find it difficult to believe that there are very many true shares available at this point. This sucker's gotta be substantially locked up:)
Thanks, Speckulater. We all appreciate all your efforts to keep the iBox updated and relevant!
Did you change your mind? Wow...
Posted by: HGS Date: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:58:31 AM
In reply to: None Post # of 44161
TDGI around $0.03 momentum for this stock is just starting and people are expecting to see some decent gains in the near-term. Although the price ended the day in negative territory, the selling was done on relatively low volume. If volume continues to build, the price should continue to rally
I was just sitting here thinking that I can't honestly think of one reason why TDGI is a risky investment at these levels. We know they won't dilute us. We know they've capped their losses at the box office and are returning to focus on their core, already profitable business. They have the films already getting ready to be distributed that will add to the bottom line. They've set up a key partnership to maximize exposure and sales in the DVD/VOD market. EP has the animation rights to the Terminator franchise and is swinging for the fence with them. We have a few more films yet to be announced that will only add to the bottom line. Wild Hunt is rolling out in theaters with a limited release minimizing P&A costs and maximizing use of capital. We have audited financials being released a week from this Thursday that will put to rest any doubts people may have about TDGI & EP's intentions with this company.
That's just to highlight the ones in my head. No need to reply to this post reminding us all that Twelve and RD failed at the box office or any of the other problems/issues TDGI has had over the past months. We know them, have acknowledged them, we have debated them and obviously have moved on if we're still here. I honestly haven't felt better with my overweight, bloated position in TDGI.
Welcome back, Hokie. It is all about "show me the money" with hedge funds. We are sitting pretty right now. Technicals are lining up (again) and the news is drawing closer. If we've learned anything from the past, it's that Eric holds important things close to the vest. We have announcements of 5 book deals that should be rolling out soon. We've got audited financials hitting September 9. T3000 news could literally come at any moment. RD is rolling out in the DVD market. We also are awaiting the release of a few more films to be rolled out in the fall.
The bleeding has stopped at the box office, and the house is getting in order again - although we could effectively argue that it never was in disarray. I've never felt better about my position in TDGI. I'm happy there are a lot of folks here who have stuck it out.
Great post, Speckulater. I wholeheartedly believe that T3000 is the bait that drew TCF to Hannover House. Twelve couldn't have been the eye candy that got Fox interested. In my opinion, this is just another thing that Eric is holding close to the vest and will reveal in proper time.
So to answer your question, YES!!!
Google Plans Pay-Per-View Films
You have to ask yourself how this is connected to Hannover House???
Google plans pay-per-view films
By Matthew Garrahan in Los Angeles and Richard Waters in San Francisco
Published: August 29 2010 22:01 | Last updated: August 29 2010 22:01
Google’s YouTube video site is in negotiations with Hollywood’s leading movie studios to launch a global pay-per-view video service by the end of 2010, putting it head-to-head with Apple in the race to dominate the digital distribution of film and television content.
Google has been pitching to the studios on the international appeal of a streaming, on-demand movie service pegged to the world’s most popular search engine and YouTube, according to several people with knowledge of the situation.
EDITOR’S CHOICE
Television goes smart in dramatic makeover - Aug-29
Tech blog: PC outlook - Aug-26
Analysis: Picturing profits - Aug-24
Lex: Online video advertising - Jun-22
In depth: Google - Jul-22
In depth: Apple - Aug-29
Google will use its search technology and YouTube to direct viewers to the new service, which is likely to launch first in the US, with other countries added over time, the people added.
“Google and YouTube are a global phenomenon with a hell of a lot of eyeballs – more than any cable or satellite service,” said one executive with knowledge of the plans. “They’ve talked about how many people they could steer to this?.?.?.?it’s a huge number.”
Negotiations have been ongoing for several months, but have taken on greater urgency in recent weeks, amid intensifying competition between media and technology companies over the digital delivery of film and TV programming. Apple is this week expected to unveil improvements to its TV device, which connects living-room sets to the internet, and eventually hopes to open the device up to “apps” developers.
Netflix, the film subscription company, is aggressively acquiring digital rights to movies for its streaming service, while Hulu, the online video site owned by Walt Disney, News Corp and NBC Universal, is planning a $2bn initial public offering.
The Google project has caused excitement in Hollywood because film studios are searching for new revenues to replace DVD sales, which are in steep decline.
Viewers will stream rather than download the films and pay about $5 for newer titles. The movies would be available at the same time as their release on DVD and on Apple’s iTunes store and Amazon.com, meaning Google could count on recent box-office hits to power the service.
YouTube said it had been beta-testing a film rental service since January.
Google has been searching for a breakthrough with YouTube since acquiring the video site for $1.65bn in 2006.
YouTube attracts millions of users but continues to be best known for its user-generated content. Yet it has struck several content deals and in April launched a free movie service.
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e638714e-b396-11df-81aa-00144feabdc0.html
Hint:
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=41442141&symbol=NO%5ETDGI
Great summary of the necessity to disclose. For those who want to say that Eric shouldn't PR some of the things he does, the answer lies in the definition of a material event and the need for public disclosure. In my opinion, that is exactly why Eric disclosed what he had to. He's learning the pitfalls of running a public company under his own authority. Back in the Hemdale days as CEO, he didn't have to worry about this as I'm sure they had an IR person to handle it.
Thanks for all your emails, Jason. I like the proactive approach you take. Folks, despite the loud noise we've heard today, TDGI will be fine. We've got everyone and their mother "looking out" for us...
And we are free to exit ANY investment whenever we choose. If I lose faith in a company I simply move on rather than complain. My mother taught me complaining is a waste of time. That said, the fact you, me or anyone else hangs in with TDGI is you have faith in what they're doing. We know they are doing many things to bring value to shareholders. Some hit, some miss. Such is life.
Where's your proof that Eric's target is a felon? Careful on that, this s a public forum.
It's been pointed out that the real Anthony Perez in my post might be the wrong one since he's in the record industry. If I'm wrong, I'll own up to it. But the "smoking gun" is Speckulater's post here:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=53792094
Two Perez Pictures
Judge for yourself, is this the same Perez? I think not...
http://books.google.com/books?id=zhQEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA46&lpg=PA46&dq=Anthony+Perez,+President,+Urban+Image+Media&source=bl&ots=DkjcGrQUiw&sig=Wu58xhECS4-bgk9nGg7_UuxD9Ag&hl=en&ei=_9J3TMLMEsKqlAef6bHtCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Anthony%20Perez%2C%20President%2C%20Urban%20Image%20Media&f=false
http://hermosabeach.patch.com/articles/hermosa-resident-suspect-in-movie-investment-scam
The Rest of The Article For Context
Here is what the rest of an article reporting on the arrest of "Tony" Perez had to say, but I suspect the ONE poster who posted earlier didn't want to put this in his first post...
If the Allegation Made Here Today is Wrong
Will the ONE poster who made the wildly speculative assertion man up and admit it publicly? I say as I've looked into this very briefly that it's grasping at straws at best to link the arrest of "Tony" Perez to the Anthony Perez Hannover is dealing with. Think about it, "Tony" Perez was arrested May 5. That means Eric said, shoot, we'll have to wait for him to get out of jail for this deal to go forward. BWAHAHAHAH. Now, that's one funny belief.
What a pedestrian argument.
Folks, standby for clarification from the allegations raised by ONE poster on this board this morning. This poster IMO did not fact check properly before seeding the board with doubts. Go to the iBox and read all the DD that's been compiled here before you take ONE poster's opinion.
Thanks...
TDGI Gone International
In case it hasn't sunk in yet, the announcement yesterday was much, much bigger than the PR indicated. It was no fluff PR by any means. The fact that TDGI will be distributing key titles internationally will be adding new revenue to TDGI's already core, profitable business. The prospect of this international pact is we know many other countries love American films, and often it's not the same genre of films we Americans love. We may have a hit on our hands that we don't even know about, but that's just pure speculation.
The fact is there is now another revenue stream coming into TDGI's books, and potentially a significant one. I can't underscore the potential this presents. I love how they are bolstering their core, profitable business. Should make us all very happen once the filings hit.
Man, you guys are some real sleuths. You take DD to another level. I guess I'm somewhat of a simple man when it comes to taking a situation for what it is. It never occurred to me to do some snooping around Final Cut Films' domain registration or emailing the CEO to verify why the site is down until I read it on this board here.
Hats off to you gentlemen. Yet another reason we have one of the finest boards for DD here on iHub. No stone goes unturned...
Nice! Thanks for sharing that email. Knew they would crush it with Racing Dreams in the DVD/VOD market. Looks like they're about to make a massive return on investment on Racing Dreams. You know what that means, TONS of bottom line profit to Hannover House. Sweet!