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I'm sure my little increase will still not help catch up to your amount of shares scup...lol...We'd need to be in trip 0's for me ever to have a chance...and we both know...that ain't happinin' ...lol...@least I hope not...I'd cry...literally...
I just got a increase in income in my household so I know where those funds will be going...My average is now around .007-.008 when it use to be .014ish....Hoping to get it down to @least .005 before we breakout...which I believe is coming soon... All Winning Colours videos are good IMO...The good ones that show the strength of the product...and even the ones that show someone can't follow simple instructions...both are great to watch...
Great find...There will always be a few cases where customers are not happy...but as long as the good comments outweigh the bad...we should be fine...
Your Welcome
absolutely...
There was much more in my post...harping on the statistic's quote is all you want to address?
I agree Scup...
P.S. there is enough room to discuss both sides on this board...just as long as both are realistic with factual information...and DD to back up opinions...
Where do you see that I'm upset with the expansion to South Africa? I am happy we are over there...but I won't make it look like it's "in the bag" either...I welcome comments about the pit falls and bumps that WNBD can experience over there, the same as I do in any other country....What's wrong with that? What's wrong with statistics about who can afford product in a city of South Africa? It all relates to who can buy our product does it not? I at one point was cheering on this very board that we were in a LOWES in the Columbus, OH area, due to the fact that that city is very wealthy. People will buy the product cause they have the spending power to do so. It ALL Relates...
Data is data...You can't pick and choose what news/articles you want to consider "old and stale"....Does this mean anything Winning Brands has done 5 years ago is old and stale/irrelevant? But back to the original topic of discussion, Dennis's point was simple and clear...ALOT of people in that city can't afford the product...it's that simple...and it is true...don't shoot the guy in the foot for it...You all down the guy for stating misinformation...but when he states real facts...you still find reason to down him....Question is, why? Is it because you don't want to consider the fact that WNBD can still fail?...Can still make mistakes....can still attempt to expand in countries/areas it has no business attempting to, in such an early stage?.
YES, it can...and it has before...what's going on in Europe? how about China? Bahamas? How long have each had 1 store on the locator page? Does it not make you think maybe they were added just for the company to state..."Oh, yea....we are expanding in China...Europe...etc..." Not saying thats what they are doing...but simply saying, if a topic like this is brought up, the poster who states it should not be crucified for it...It's a topic which brings a great debate...
BTW...Why do you keep comparing Big Retailers to Winning Brands? The same way WNBD has failed to come through/came through but failed on over 2 dozen initiatives is the same way a Big retailer could fail as well...Only difference is, the Big Retailer in discussion (Wal-Mart) can write it off like nothing ever happened...WNBD cannot afford to make many mistakes...and if they do...you know where that leads...Walmart could spend billions in South Africa attempting to "jump-start" business over there...does this mean everything Walmart does, WNBD should follow suit? NO...Please stop the comparisons, as they do not show anything but unrealistic verbiage, mixed with quotes, percentages, and revenues WNBD is not even within line-of-sight of as of yet...
Did you read the part where it said "It's not going to happen in [the next] 10 years,"?
That would mean 2014...so the article still stands true...
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gIMxdycncj6G_wdHN9bk6ogEftMg?docId=ef09e8ce4e804723ad6402ad562ac1bb
Read up on this and you tell me you still believe this...
I think he's implying if folks only make $1 a day, they can't afford to buy food so they have to likely hunt for food.
THEY DO!....that's why I find this OFFENSIVE!
Why are you picking and choosing what portion of my posts to respond to? Are you waiting on the IHub admins to delete the posts...Just apologize...You offended me...and I'm sure many others due to the lack of LOL's to your post...
I agree with you J-Rhino... obviously...i'm not the only one who doesn't "get it"
Dennis's post you just pointed out is accurate...and his opinion to people spending 10 days worth of pay is a great point...I still don't get why you would get a straw huts...monkeys...blood...lion...sand spears from this post of his...especially when he is right....
It's just people like yourself who refuse to take all DD and form an opinion around it...And negative info brought up...you choose to bash it and the person who posted it...
Trust me...I "get it"...I "get" the fact that you chose this opportunity to post a inappropriate joke on this board... Please assist me in finding the post's that lead you to believe a poster would of had us believing this...
lmao...
Simple Green is one of the main cleaners the US Navy uses...it will take years to take their spot due to product testings and expiring contracts....Our supply departments order these products in bulks per quarter...tens of thousands would be made...I'm liking this direction we are headed in...
Scup, why would he when he pays himself for almost every hour he's awake?
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=56964026
Yes...they caught on to us eventually as well...Those Junior Officers made me so mad....just sitting there watching us clean...and then had the nerve to tell us all the spots we missed...even more so...they could be standing directly above a dust ball on the deck...and they'd call one of us enlisted guys from way way way across the p-way to come pick it up...It was rough...Just had to stay positive even though we knew it would never change....Very excited to see where this GSA news takes us...
LOLOLOL.... Field day...lol...yes yes...I hAteD that to...We also called it "Cleaning Stations"...lololol...Very funny...I was on a Frigate, working as an Info Tech...so I use to work on the 01-level...We had to clean the long P-way leading to the CO's Cabin...Use to be like 10 of us just goofing off not cleaning a darn thing...but we had our "foxtails" in hand just in case an officer walked by...lmao...it was so scripted...we had a lookout on both ends of the p-way and if someone of relevance walked by we'd drop to the deck and clean the "horizontals"....lmao!!!!!! Winning Colours would of made it so much easier and being that I invest in it...It would of made it a lot more fun to use...
You are absolutely right...I use to hate it...and am glad I am not going back to one anytime soon...There are GSA magazines in every office at my Command...Most people order office supplies...but I will make sure to sneak in a few Large orders of Winning Colours, and Reguard 4 for when we do Fire-fighting drills...lol...
Right on the money Mike...I know exactly what your talking about...
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ActivClient Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:38:24 AM
Re: KngmAz post# 101052 Post # of 152710
I for one am actually in the military. I am a Information Systems Technician Second Class Petty Officer. I use to be Stationed in Mayport, Florida on the USS Boone. Underway, the "Deck" guys would be painting and keeping the ship clean on a everyday basis. Inport, the "Deck" guys would be cleaning and painting the ship daily as well. So really, if we got the military to use WC, it would be HUGE. It would probably bring us to 100 million in the first year. The thing is, all the ships I've been on use the same Multi Purpose/ General Purpose cleaner. Actually, I'm positive the whole United States Navy uses the same thing. There are regulations on what we can use. HAZMAT is a big issue due to safety. I love WC, but I do doubt that a new company like this would manage to win over the entire military this soon. I'd say give it another 3 years, and we may get lucky.
Here are the links of the products we use in the Navy:
https://www.gsaadvantage.gov/advgsa/advantage/catalog/product_detail.do?contractNumber=GSA&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&itemNumber=7930-01-555-2901
https://www.gsaadvantage.gov/advgsa/advantage/catalog/product_detail.do?contractNumber=GSA&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&itemNumber=7930-01-373-8848
Good Night Dave...I am happy to see GSA in works here....Military is written all over this one...
Bloggage! I have been informed that the chain will let us know the addresses of the stores in which Winning Colours Stain Remover will be placed, prior to deployment in January, so that we can be as accurate as possible on the Winning Colours Store Locator. Such assistance is not always available from retailers - thank you DR – much appreciated. The current plan is to have the 4oz display boxes located at the checkout lines in those stores – probably approximately 100 for starters. For those who don’t know, this New York drug store chain is an institution in the city. You are within walking distance of one anywhere in Manhattan.
http://winningbrandscorporation.com/blog/2010/11/24/duane-reade-locations/
It's always good to see green...great day today...let's not give it back next week please...by the hints Eric keeps throwing out of the blue...we all are hoping and believing positive things are just around the corner...GO WNBD!
Winning Colours...Proven Green...And Fights Stains' clean!...
Welcome Ricky...Glad to see you here...we look foward to your input...
Absolutely....we see things exactly...
Eric's Pay
$120,000 per year
$10,000 per month
$2,500 per week
$357 per day
Given he works the minimum of his 80 hours per week (including weekends)
He works- 11.42 Hours per day, making...
$31.26 per hour
In this old Memo, Eric states Winning Brands is selling a product somewhere every two minutes during an extended business day...A normal business day would be 8 hours...so let's say an extended business day would be 12 hours...This would equate to...12 hours x 5 business days per week = 60 hours per week....let's compare his pay to the revenue/profits coming in...(all based on the cheapest product...a 4oz WC bottle)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=36180677
There are:
30 two minute intervals in 1 hour (30 4oz bottles sold per hour) $120
12 hours in 1 extended business day (360 4oz bottles sold per extended business day) $1440
5 extended business days in 1 week (1800 4oz bottles sold per business week) $7200
52 weeks in 1 year (93,600 4oz bottles sold per year)
Assuming all bottles were sold at MSRP, approx. $4...this would Total $374,000 revenue per year...Now cut that in half due to 50% profit margin...that would total $187,200
Eric's salary is 120K while we are only profiting 187K...
So His Pay is eating up 64% of what's coming in...
Further...
For every business hour that passes...Winning Brands makes $120, but pays Eric $31.26, roughly 25% of what's coming in...
Now here's where it get's interesting...Business hours end eventually....and weekends take over...(and we all know Eric works weekends...)
So although we know we sell product over weekends...Eric used a different metric when coming up with his "every 2 minute" projections, so I will exclude product being sold over weekends, just like he did...
This would mean, Eric is still getting paid @ $31.26 per hour for 11.42 hours, totaling roughly $357 per weekend day and $714 per weekend...
There are 52 Weekends in a year which would equate to $37,126 being taken from Winning brands total profits where there is no revenue being generated for those days...
Overall- $187K profits - $120K salary - $37,126 due to no revenue being generated = $29874 total in cash at years end based on this info....
So in essence, I agree, lower the salary, or find a way to increase sales dramatically...ALL IMO!
I'm in favor dave...I am to deep in the red to sell...so restricting my shares from being traded would be exactly what is already being done to the majority of my core shares...
yes...I find it interesting as well...and I would be for it...
TAKI...he does have money to pay his bills...lol...OUR MONEY...And our future contributions...
I Vote "It's up to Eric to decide". We can sit here and debate whether the CEO deserves a salary now or later, but will our opinions matter one way or another? I think not...our opinions will only give Eric more to think about the next time he dilutes for his Base Pay....
If you want my opinion on this subject though, I think if your going to dilute, whether to further advance the company...or whether to pay salaries over 6 figures, then you need to combat it with some meaningful promotions if the PPS can't sustain the dilution. I get were J-Rhino is coming from, but don't fully agree or disagree with him. I would never ask someone to work for free...but come on fellow shareholders...open your eyes....While you all praise the CEO for working 80-100 hours a week....in essence, the man spends many of those hours writing blogs to us...(which I don't mind by the way)...and probably more hours (already admit-tingly) reading our IHub posts...all from his office...You know he wouldn't take work home after spending that much time at work....So part of his pay is deriving from countless hours of things he could do on his free time, instead of on the clock...Although he is not getting paid hourly...psychologically, when deciding how much to pay himself for salary, he had to have thought..."If I work 80-100 hours a week, then I deserve X amount"...(Who wouldn't stay at work all day?) (I wonder is Lorne and company are authorized this much overtime?)
So to summarize...we are paying his salary by purchasing his companies shares...and we are paying him to attempt to advance the company, write blogs, return emails, and read posts just like this one...All on the clock....Who's to decide what should be "on the clock" and what shouldn't? I personally could careless if he worked all day every day, and got paid accordingly...just as long as he paid us back with shareholder value....something he does not seem to concerned about right now...it shows in the charts...Hopefully the post I wrote yesterday was accurate in what I believed Eric is doing...but we will have to wait for confirmation....
No break....not even break-fast...just work...
I think everyone is missing the new approach Eric is taking to increase the PPS...he is strategically using a different and better method now, without having to hire a promoter...notice the lack of PR's lately?....Notice the increase in his willingness to discuss revenues, outside of the normal financial's? (something he has shy'd away from until surprisingly this 4th quarter...) He is building anticipation for 4th quarter growth and with that comes speculation...which brings more investors/traders...which brings more volume...which will inevitably move the pps...which direction? that's for you to decide...but I see green at the end of this tunnel....temporarily or not...it will be great speculation until the fourth quarter results are out and confirms this notion....fundamentals are in play now...and the charts are looking great to bring in the TA traders....one two combo...breakout looming...all IMO
I was hoping I was wrong...
Where's Penny Pincher?....
I agree...let's get to 200K 4Q...this is great...
I say I agree...
Agreed...I've been asking for this for a while now...I'm glad Eric hired them for the job...dilution well spent...let's keep the momentum in the right direction...