awk, you will soon have mail. e/

A teaser report from the CTIA Wireless:

Anyone would like to see Wave's Embassy Trust Server brochure...it's awesome. IHub apparently won't let me cut and paste it, so if anyone has any suggestions besides e-mailing, which I can do, offer them.

Only had 45 min. today to spend...going back tomorrow for the full 4 hr.

Brian Berger is extremely knowledgeable, extremely affable and his demeanor absolutely embodies Wave's focus on implementing ETS software. In a word the TCG initiative is about deploying these, elemental, by necessity, early version TPMs and Wave has the only robust services available, period.

Final word in my full report which I hope to post Thursday PM PST, but at a glance this exhibit is Wave. Wireless?...I don't know...Wave Services, yes! There's a Nokia gal and a TCG gal and that's currently only about standards being assembled by the TCG (I may get more on TCG and wireless tommorrow), but basically there's a Wave guy and an IBM guy at a desk with the Wave brochure. KTM is being demonstrated.

Any suggestions or requests, now is the time.

go-ks

I see your point that Wave is not listed as an HP security partner. Instead HP merely (or not so merely) recognizes Wave as an ISV like IBM does.

IBM does not to my knowledge provide a link from their website to Wave products, but I bet that's coming.

Doma

You are right about LaunchPad in both Business/Pro versions of ETS. I had known that but forgot in my post to packstater.

I would say the $10 difference is all PIM at the present time.

Expect, IMO, continuing evolution of ETS offerings.

go-ks

Guess what!...and it has a link to Wave's Products.

http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/security/partners.html

Packstater

Possibly the "paid for" LaunchPad in the ETS Professional Edition is more robust than the free LaunchPad to Intel users. There is just know way to know for sure without getting it straight from the horse's mouth.

My guess is that even if a user opts for the $10 cheaper ETS Business Edition that the software will still contain the means to access Wave's Premium Services. Premium Services will likely eventually be a download directly from our website anyways. I am sure ETS is designed so that an ETS user of any level can easily upgrade.

Packstater

Intel D865GRH users will get ETS for free including LaunchPad. I would guess the same will hold true for NSM TPM users. Apparently, we currently are enticing current IBM/HP TPM users to buy LaunchPad in the ETS Professional Edition.

"The EMBASSY Trust Suite Launch Pad provides central location for users to access their TPM-enabled applications. Additionally, the Launch Pad directs trusted platform uses to a website where they may obtain updates, upgrades, and new TCG-compliant applications and services for their platform, including support for additional languages."

I believe one function of LaunchPad will be to enable ETS users to access Wave's Premium Services...the server/network services that will really launch Trusted Computing. We may hear more about the operative status of Premium Services the next CC.

The website is looking good. I already mentioned this recently, but I like how the bottom half of the cover page is vacant. Clearly some older stuff has been cleared out making room for the new stuff, yet to come!

I had some issues with the Products section and contacted management through several channels. It's good now...the viewer clicks on Products and gets an excellent Products cover page summary with links to cleanly dilineated specifics. This is a work in progress, and today's improvements and the addition of the ETS Professional Edition is exciting.

Doma

I would expect the activation for Premium Services to be high once users are educated. As you know, without the network/server side available, the functionality is limited.

go-ks

The update at Wave's website is brand new! e/

Lucky, my last post was updated. e/

Lucky

I suspect by ETS sales, you may be looking to Premium Services. The Intel and NSM bundling deals includes some kind of ETS version similiar (we are not sure if it's identical) to the $39.99 ETS offered by Wave online, and Wave only receives a max. $1.50/seat for that.

Premium Services, utilizing Wave's attestation technologies is estimated at something like $20-40/seat.

Lucky

I just replaced my motherboard including a Celeron processor. My next one might be a D865GRH or subsequent model.

Lucky re: Intel site says "coming soon"

That may only apply to retail, as today's Wave annoucement confirms for sure that D865GRH is shipping to OEMs, or Intel has not yet updated.

VH, great BRCM TPM find. Thanks. e/

right zen...that/other possible. e/

zen 88 re: Wave dumping SSPX

If Wave is selling, someone is buying. The price is holding.

I went back three years and today is by far the most volume.

OT:

SSPX meets Nasdaq listing requirements:

http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/031009/058447.html


SSPX up a little today on above average volume.

allman/doma, thanks. e/

Hi allman!

So you foresee the need for a separate security co-processor secured through an LPC bus in the post-LeGrande (and whatever AMD does)/NGSCB world?

Anybody attending CTIA Wireless I.T. here in Vegas this week Oct. 21-23? Wave is supposed to be here. $75 to get in...I'm thinking about it.

awk re:patents. Things are indeed good! e/

Thanks Doma. We'll nail down PIM! e/

Dabears4...B-A-utiful! Thanks. e/

Thanks awk

So the Kravitz patents, if granted, are likely Wave's to license from Kravitz?

Hi Dabears4

I remain a little foggy on your patents research: only the Sprague ones are for sure Wave or do you recognize some of the other names as being Wave-connected?

In any case I would recommend e-mailing SKS whenever you find patents of possible relevance to Wave so that Wave can investigate for possible licensing.

Hi Weby

"five years to NGSCB.......a lot of vanilla before the race to interoperable secure vaults and instruction sets take over the world."

I believe programmablity of the TPM comes before NGSCB is ready.

yesbaby1935

I just am not sure about PIM...why it's not included in the ETS Business Edition (if in fact it's not...could be an ommission on Wave's website) or why it's not mentioned in the HP security partners page on the HP site. I have an e-mail inquiry in to Wave on this and will be sure to post the response if I get one.

From the Intel D865GRH page:


-Trusted Platform Module (TPM)
-Wave Systems*
Security EMBASSY* Trust Suite
Document Manager
Private Information Manager
SmartSignature*

http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/rh/index.htm?iid=ipp_browse+motherbd_featuredd865grh&


Note that the ETS bundled with the D865GRH includes Private Information Manager while the ETS Business Edition offered directly from Wave does not.

http://www.wave.com/products/ets_moreinfo.html

ETS Launch Pad...from the ETS datatsheet:

EMBASSY Trust Suite Launch Pad

The EMBASSY Trust Suite applications may be
initiated from an integrated application, such as
Adobe Acrobat, Microsoft Word, or Microsoft
Explorer, or from a launch pad utility.
In addition to being a central location for launching
Document Manager and the digital signature
application utilizing Smart Signature, the launch
pad also directs the trusted platform user to a
website where they may obtain new or enhanced
TCG-compliant services for their platform.

http://www.wave.com/about/datasheets/03-000152_ETS.pdf

From the FAQ section on the D865GRH page at the Intel website:


What is the Trusted Platform Module, and how can I use its features?

The TPM protects encryption keys and platform authentication information from software-based attacks by securing them in hardware. The Wave Systems* EMBASSY* Trust Suite software package, which utilizes the TPM functionality, is included as part of the Desktop Board D865GRH security solution.

http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/rh/rh_inst.htm

awk re: in the box

In the box and linked from the website of every PC OEM!

michael usa is/has been on iggy! e/

go-ks

Atmel/IBM bundling of complimentary ETS would be better!

go-ks good point about the support page!

ETS may be headed for the support page of all major PC OEMs. This will benefit all TCG participants, except those who aspire to compete against Wave, and the TCG itself.

awk

Great point! It's yet another reason why Wave being an independent in an emerging space is an advantage.

go-ks

"What bothers me is there's no icon on the desktop as Wave once alluded."

I didn't know about/don't recall Wave's allusion to icon on the desktop. I assume once the ETS CD is downloaded it will be on the desktop. The trick is to get that ETS downloaded.

As for the marketing, it's clear Wave will benefit from the TCG itself as well as TCG vendors and OEMs. Since the ETS is the only stuff out there that adds any true measure of utility to TPMs it is in anybody TCG's (including VARs) best interest to promote the ETS. I trust however that Wave is doing everything they have the resources for, to further foster the marketing.

awk re: the button

Once that button is there the user can go establish their relationship with Wave which initially will be Premium Services or perhaps customer support for basic services leading to subscribing for Premium Services.

The trick is to get that button downloaded to the TPM user. Ultimate ubiquity is when the host OS has a button!

go-ks that's B-A-utiful! e/

Doma re: ETS LP...agreed.e/