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Oh really now, HMM, think I'll do my own DD on this stock.
As the summer gets nearer, I suspect many companies like these will be busy shooting movies.
I'm concerned with the role CMLT plays in all this.
whether or not this is the movie shooting season means absolutely nothing for CMLT if they're not actively involved.
But "DD" will tell all.
True! but always remember, TFZI will succeed by their own terms, not our's.
>6^}
Who? the MM's? well You may have a point there and it appears that these MM's are the "gravity" that keeps the PPS down.
But Zippi don’t seem to be Zipping around on the influences of their Antigravity devices they already have in place.
After reading their “INFORMATION STATEMENT OF ZIPPI NETWORKS, INC “ Last April, I was "influenced" by the "Attraction" of their plan and became encouraged by its "Magnetism".
Although I’ve not done any Ebay Buying/Selling activities, I did think about it often and figured one day I’d take a crack at it.
People I’ve talked to about it, (for the hell of it), have all seem to make the same underlying complaints about buying/selling on Ebay, regarding all the paperwork and legwork and then got spooked away.
I’ve learned a lot as to how this Zippi company seems to do all the grunt work so that all the buyer/seller need to do is make a stupid phone call and wait on a check.
I’ve not verified/tried their service transactions yet, but if what I’ve learn of Zippi is true and they’ve made the process of selling stuff so brain-dead easy, then why the hell aren’t people climbing over each other for their services?
Then I realize, HEY! It’s because they’re coming off as just another online gimmick!
Toss up a website of bland orange images with a too good to be true metaphor as if the world will stop by out of a pool of zillions and see only them. –NOT!
I could have done a better job than that.
I’ve asked people at random both on and off line did they know who “Zippi Networks” was and of all the answers I’ve got, even from those who tried to wing it, none of them even came close to associating the word “Zippi Networks” to a company as we know of them here, but, almost all of them knew who EBAY was and there inlays the problem and inlays why I’ve called ZIPN a rip-off.
It appears that the insiders of ZIPPI are underperforming and/or poorly advertising their business model to the would be customers at large.
With all that potential in their grip of a successful business, customers at large seem to don’t know who they are.
How about you do the same? Ask everyone you know who’s “Zippi Networks”, then ask that same person who’s “EBAY” I’ll bet proportionally more will not know who Zippi is but will more likely know who Ebay is.
This is ironic, as they’ll likely never use Ebay’s services, let alone can count the number of times they’ve visited the website if ever. –YET they know who EBAY is.
I’d figure they should also know at least “Something” of Zippi, since Zippi is working “WITH” Ebay. –LOL!
(Dah?)
So what is EBAY doing that ZIPPI (Affiliated with Ebay) is not doing, in terms of getting the word out that they exist… TOO!
LOL!
I’ve seen infomercials selling less meaningful services that ZIPN.
(gee, wonder how they’re doing after placing themselves in the line-of-sight of millions)
Well there you have it ZIPN!, you ever think of doing Infomercials? –LOL!
Ever think of running an “Exposure” campaign of your business model? –Off Line?!
Or better yet, ever think of posting your ads physically “OFF-LINE” ?
Popping up a Website (which 4yr olds can do) sit back and wait on “things to just happen” all on their own (along side millions of others) then wonder why you’re still in the pinks.
-LOL!
Too bad, so much potential, so little exposure.
Funny thing is, in the current state of the economy, people are more likely to sell their household belongings and what all even more so now than ever before in history.
There are no words to explain the immense and intense opportunity ZIPN has here and now!
But there a catch, “WOULD BE CUSTOMERS AT LARGE AREN’T USING ZIPPI’S SERVICES, BECAUSE DON’T KNOW THEY EXIST” –LOL!
If it if lost, this opportunity of fortune and fame, ZIPN has only ZIPN to blame.
Tisk-Tisk-Tisk!
It’s such a Rip-Off, to not give this company the exposure it rightfully deserves.
OK, time to regain capital gains here. It's about time this stock reverse directions and start heading up.
There's too many opportunities becoming available for that not to happen.
Listen Zippy, it’s high time you start Zip’n that ASK right on up a few ticks.
Seems like Newton’s laws of physics also applies to stocks.
Gravity is always tugging at their “ASK” to fall down.
Where the hell is Antigravity when you need it.
Why can’t there be as much antigravity pulling these stocks UP for a change.
Where the hell is the stimulus package at?!?
Why the hell is Zippy having so much problems getting off the ground when they’re the ones with the edge?
I just don’t get it with “some” of these pinks.
Zippy? What the hell are you doing?!?
Your lack of demonstrated progress is ripping off shareholders.
This is why I’ve called this stock a rip-off!
This company has so much potential within its genre but its owners seems to dragging their feet about it. -But then want to issue shares for purchase.
I’m very perturbed of stocks that are in position to explode, only to become defused by nonchalant management.
(maybe it’s just me.) –because I really don’t get it.
SMWF: PreMkt L2 as at 09:22A 05/22/2009
SMWF does allow Aftermarket Trades I see.
Well, I guess that concludes it not a Pink (anymore)
Was never able to do that before, as brokers wont allow Aftermarket trades in the pinks from our side of the market..
True! .0006 +(.0004 ticks)= .001/PPS
(in the voice of popeye the sailor)
Yep we aint'sk far r'off!
>6^}
and I ain’t insinuate’n nu’ffin.
Wink!
lol!
LOL! Technically you're correct!
>6^}
SMWF: Premarket L2 as at 08:44AM 05/22/2009
Interesting Line-Up..
BID and ASK are the same -LOL!
Actually, this can happen at premarket as all the MM's aren't in position yet.
The actual L2 will be during market hours.
'Rawnoc'? I wouldn't limit sales to their current line of products either.
Who says their current S-Gens and/or Notebooks are the epitome of their technology?
Their engineers aren't idiots.
You best believe they damn well know their places in this technically competitive market.
I don't doubt they already have even more advanced models in the works. (IMO).
If I owned the company, I know I would.
Rule of my business, I never perfect business to go out of business. I ALWAYS keep a Business Plan, "B"
Wink!
>6^}
For all it's worth, I'd rather wait and allow for a possible resolution that may work for all parties involved.
Whether what had occurred was intentional or an honest oversight, it did happen and the unsuspected, ill-informed or misinformed were injured.
I believe SHSNQ is not without knowledge of what has occurred following their emergence from Bankruptcy and are likely contemplating the best course of action.
Especially if they're serious about proceeding with their genre of business under a new trade symbol without the possible discomforts of being heckled by previously injured shareholders.
Also, shareholders who rush to take action can cause endless delays and/or loops, if not adding to it.
I understand that they’re in process of trading under a new symbol, eventually.
(In a few weeks the last I gathered.
I’d expect sometime in June, but not likely without addressing pending complaints, first.
Be it in PR or privately.
I doubt they’d want to start anew while dragging the old company’s issues around like balls and chains.
Deciding the most effective and least costly resolution is now the likely problem. IMO.
On my part, I’ll not pursue or start any actions unless it had been made absolutely clear to me or otherwise that no resolutions will be reached, attempted or even considered.
As if we’ll just “Go Away” if ignored long enough.
>B^}
Then and only then will the next level of legal documents be drawn and issued for a court hearing.
-But needless to say, this can very easily be circumvented.
Wink-Wink!
>6^}
Every stock on the market suffered some form of loss when the "world Market" crashed..
Pointing it out here in this stock is just as well as pointing it out on Microsoft.
Both suffered losses.
Some tycoon stocks/companies went bankrupt while others are no longer listed.
Yet SMWF survived.
The fact they'd even survive the crash speaks its own volumes.
Especially for a pink, yet alone exhibiting growth.
>6^}
Happy Trading.
All dilutions shouldn't be misconstrued as some sort of sinister act being committed by said companies.
(Not to be redundant but the following needs to be stated)
It’s a requirement in order for shares to be made available on the stock market for investor’s purchases.
This is how companies raise capital for operations and growth.
Dilutions only becomes a bad thing when revenues generated from shares issued weren't used for reasons intended.
In penny land, one shouldn’t panic at the sight of what initially appears to be an enormous A/S or O/S.
There seems to be an overall lack of understanding when it comes to why the sizes of the A/S or O/S are as they read.
Especially here in sub-penny land.
Let’s do the math using real numbers from MGLG at www.pinksheets.com under “Company Info” Tab;
Estimated Market Cap
$4,682,451 as of May 21, 2009
Outstanding Shares
7,804,084,651 as of May 19, 2009
Authorized Shares
30,000,000,000 as of May 19, 2009
Float
2,792,229,863 as of May 19, 2009
Using the current PPS ASK “.0006” as at closing bell on 05/21/2009
The company has been Authorized 30 trillion Shares, (A/S), to its name.
This is the total available shares the company has at its disposal to be divvied for sale up in whatever way that best suits their needs to generate capital.
There is NO VALUE (No Market Cap) placed on those 30T shares. One can imply that they’re just products without a price tag stamped on them yet, Until;
-They are placed on the market (Made available) FOR purchase.
Whatever the quantity of shares that has been “released” or “Issued” into the market, becomes the Outstanding Shares, (O/S), now available for investor’s purchase.
The Price Per Share (PPS), at which they’re available for purchase yields the Estimated Capital Value in the Market. (Estimated Market Cap.)
Estimated Market Cap. = O/S x PPS = 7,804,084,651 x .0006 = $4,682,450.7906 ($4,682,451 truncated)
After in investors buy their positions, (Becoming then, shareholders.), the amount of shares left “FLOATing” for purchase, in this case, is 2,792,229,863 (as of May 19, 2009)
This calculates as to mean about 5,011,854,788 shares are being held by shareholders.
This was derived from;
O/S – Shares Held by Shareholders = Float.
Based on the O/S, only a total of about 26% of the company’s A/S can be owned by shareholders.
Of the 26% only 16% is currently in the hands of shareholders, leaving about 10% ownership “Floating” freely –Wink-Wink!
As for the concerns regarding the Sizes of the O/S? or Float?
More math;
First off, in pink penny land, especially sub penny land, the current sizes are relatively small.
Since about 2/3 of the O/S is already in the hands of shareholders, I’ll use the available “Float”.
Assuming that each investor would spend $12 on the current closing PPS @ .0006
$12 / .0006 = 20,000 shares
this translates to about 139611 investors.
Using the Max/Min block size purchases as of yesterday’s market, I found 2,000 to 8,000,000 blocks of shares were bought. Or $1.20 to $4,800, respectively.
This means the potential number or investors required to buy the 2,792,229,863 Float would likely be between , 1,396,114 to about 349.
Given the sizes of the market, that’s like a ton of aluminum foil to a ton of copper, respectively.
And also shows just how “Small” a trillion shares really is when viewed down here in the pinks, where thousands of shares can be owned from mere pocket change.
Well I hope this clears up things for many.
>6^}
Happy Trading!
This is very possible as anything can happen in the pink world!
(it's unregulated.) –Wink-wink!
All that remains of their behavior is the honor system.
Some pinks honor it and some pinks don't.
But I'm confident that SMWF wont intentionally dishonor the honor system.
>6^}
Honestly.
Happy Trading!
WOW dude! I didn't know that could happen! now that's another to add to my learning toolbox.
I mean, I remember when my cat jumped on my keyboard and sold all my shares at below market, but, MM's making trade mistakes is a new on one me.
>6^}
OK, what's the scoop on tomorrow's trades.
Anyone care to "SHARE" their "TAKE" in this?
Wink!
Hmm, wondering is the future holds a $1.00 in there somewhere..
(Glazing into a Crystal ball)
>B^}
Nope!, I'm not implying anything.
>6^}
SMWF: L2 as at Closing. 05/21/2009
Yaaawn, I wont say I've told yous so..
Wink-Wink!
So um, like, um, Janice Shell? um, after reading back on all your posts, um, I cant help to wonder how many shares you sell today.
W-I-N-K!
>6^}
Aww com'on, nothig like taking up a "Trade" in humor.
SMWF: reached .0004/.0005, need I say more?
>B^}
Funny thing is, if I complained (didn't load up when this was at .0001) and decided to "SHARE" objective views with gathered followers, how would I face them right about now.
Wink-Wink!
>6^}
Would I quietly hunker away and hope I didn't forget to off...no wait...UNPLUG! my web cam?
LOL!
Happy Trading..
What some are missing regarding company issuing/releasing shares is that the point of doing so, is to rise capital.
Some call it delusion.
Well, perhaps in "some" pinks, that may very well be the case.
But "ONLY" if the revenue generated from sales of shares issued were not use as intended for reason of issue.
Otherwise, the issuing shares should be expected and should be thought of as a good thing.
Shares are issued to generate revenue for company operations.
In order for that to happen, shares must be made available for purchase.
Shares are made available by selling them into the market FOR purchase.
Method of availability has often been mistaken for dumping or dilution.
But how else is the company to pour the float into the market to generate revenue?
The more I learn BOTH sides of the market, the closer I get to being a more proficient trader,, more appropriately to say, a "Tradesmen", (or tradeswomen) -Wink-Wink!
>6^}
Happy Trading!
Vol=2.5B+ as at this post, see L2 here.
No likely harm to newbie's investment here. I predict there will be rebuttals for every Up-Tick this stock makes.
(Needed a crystal ball for that one...Dah?)
Here's how it flows;
SMWF .0001/PPS,
oh Doom and Gloom, don’t buy.
SMWF .0002/PPS,
hu? I mean, woe is me, the earth's gonna end.
SMWF .0003/PPS,
WTF? oop! I mean, um, (secretly bought 1M+ shares), um, woe is me.. Doom and Gloom
SMWF .0004/PPS,
Staring in silence (bought more shares)
SMWF .0005/PPS,
********I think you get the picture -Wink-Wink!
>6^}
SMWF will do well by their own terms, not our's!
Happy trading!
'surber32'? That's not surprising. I've already given away that hint a while back in some other iHUB forum.
Meaning, if some of these pinks had a BRAIN, they'd take some of the investments received from shares they sell to "US" and buy shares in other pinks, who buys shares in other pinks and so on and on.
When one pink strikes it big, (because some actually do), virtually all the other pinks that are attached, may likely do so as well.
Sometime I just don't get it with these pinks.
I mean, it's what I'd do if I were issuing shares from a pinksheet company that I’d own.
(Maybe it’s just me..)
What's even more amazing? -how come there seems to be more wealth in ideas than money in wallets.
[6^{|}
..Especially if it belongs to me.
>B^{
Something's got to give here.
or.
Maybe it's about to finally happen.
>6^}
'bud_fox'? if you got in $500 @ 1 (.0001 that is), then your yesterday’s $500 investment is now worth $1500 today! and in less than 24 hours.
My hats off to.... no wait....my "Brain Stem" off to you!
>6^}
you are here by up $1000!!!
I envy you!
I wish that could have happened to me.
Damn..
BUT! I may finally have my chance here!!
Then I think I'll buy a truck load of Seamless notebooks for my relatives.
}8^>
SMWF: L2 as at 1:07PM 05/21/2009.
WELP! this is the possible UP-TICK I gave notice of, back on post#6219 this morning.
Yaaaaawn!
I don’t have a crystal ball,, really.
>6^}
Wink-Wink!
(Wondering if that means I'm actually clarvoient
hmmm..
Naaaaa,, must'a been the Yard Rake I handed on after hopping a fence.)
>B^{
MODS/ADMIN? delete post 6332 please?
Don’t know how I got a double post..
was not my intensions.
Welp! we're officially at .0003/.0004!!
Guess my predictions earlier this morning were correct!!
Wink-Wink!
Um,, you all mind clearing an opening so I can give a BOW!
This is why A/S and/or O/S never concerned me.
Many have boasted about the sizes being in the millions, billions or trillions and then panic.
But in reality, trillions of shares at .0001/PPS translate to a measly $100,000 bucks!
In stock market sense, that's not even a drop in the bucket.
especially when just $10 at .0001/share absorbs about 100,000 shares.
when translated to actual number of shareholders, that's only about 10 thousand investors (on the planet) who each invested about $10!
( And there are how many investors trading in the market to date?)
When we go further in the math, while knowing many "current investors" (That's you and me), are in at $50 - $500+ worth of shares, we get about 500,000 to 5,000,000 or more worth of shares held by each of them. (US).
Not only would this mean to stay within the total number of available shares, the number of investors would need to be lower to offset the higher number shares held between and also how quickly a trillion shares in the float can be bought up.
And while using a comparatively small amount of money on a .0001/PPS, or higher!
Now you know why I don’t panic when I see stocks with millions-trillions of shares in their A/S or O/S.
When the PPS is at sub-sub penny.
>6^}
Happy Trading.
'ash222' I know I'm late, but, he's correct!
In laymen terms, He's going on what shares were bought at "From the Market", (What you see on the ASK-Side), to what THOSE shares are likely sold at, "To The Market", (What you see on the BID-Side).
There inlies the 200%, as mentioned and as shown in the current L2.
>6^}
Happy Trading!
ANOTHER UP TICK POSSIBLE!!! if I'm reading my tracer correctly, as at 9:35AM this morning, Several million blocks of shorts were covered!
(Likely for the sudden {early} spike in volume)
And may very well explain why we Up-Ticked from .0001/.0002 to .0002/.0003, as all those "BUYS" to cover what appears to be shorts, occurred on the ASK when it was at .0002.
This obviously absorbed them into the .0003's.
The BID had no choice but to move to .0002.
Another load-up like that and we'll surly close at .0003/.0004 or better.
if not?
that's ok, SMWF is in motion and that's all that matters. IMO.
eventually the A/S and O/S may decrease which will likely further encourage many Up-Ticks to come.
Happy Trading!
Well Well Well, I've never seen such excitement LOL!
(to occur in such a short time)
We're even un,,,, 4th place as today’s most popular Forum on the HUB -LOL!
Patience my dear friends, it's all about patience!
And as per my post this morning, stated before today's PR, now you know why I'm still here.
Wink-Wink!
Oh and um, sorry flippers, your winnings will be short lived here.
AS SMWF will succeed by their terms, not ours.
Hmm, premarket ay? think I'll view the Premarket L2.
Thanks.
GOOD. Now you know why I'm still here!
Wink-Wink
>6^}
Happy Trading!
I'm patient with SMWF. Besides, I’ve decided that if I have a dislike of a stock, I’ll stay out of its forum, yet alone answer posts made within them that weren't address to me.
Wink-Wink!
>B^}
SMWF will do just fine, by their own time, not ours.
Which ones, these -:} $1??
Wink-Wink!
Same Here!
GM Everyone! Thought I'd stop by and see how are things here.
Hope all is well, or soon to be.
Happy Trading..
>6^}
SMWF-NEWS: Seamless Sales Partners With Amazon on Its eCommerce Website
9:01 AM ET 5/20/09 | Market Wire
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7:58 PM ET 5/19/09
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Real time quote.
Seamless Corporation (OTCBB: SMWF) announced today that the company's subsidiary, Seamless Sales, has partnered with Amazon on its new Seamless Sales eCommerce website (www.seamlesssale.com). The Amazon (www.amazon.com) partnership will allow Seamless to offer additional products that it currently does not carry.
"Seamless can now offer thousands of additional products with this partnership with Amazon expanding Seamless's eCommerce website product offerings," stated Albert Reda, CEO of Seamless Corporation.
About Seamless Corporation
Seamless Corporation (www.seamlesscorp.com) is quoted on the OTCBB: SMWF. Seamless develops and markets secure cutting-edge hardware and software Internet communications products and services through its three operating subsidiaries: Seamless TEK Ware Inc. develops hardware products such as the S-Gen, Mini notebooks and MP3/4 players (www.seamlesstekware.com), Seamless TEK LABS, Inc. develops secure internet software such as S-SIB and Phenom for secure internet conferencing (www.s-teklabs.com), and Seamless Sales LLC sells both subsidiaries' products (www.seamlesssale.com).
Safe Harbor: This release includes forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 27E of the Securities Act of 1934. Statements contained in this release that are not historical facts may be deemed to be forward-looking statements. Investors are cautioned that forward-looking statements are inherently uncertain. Actual performance and results may differ materially from that projected or suggested herein due to certain risks and uncertainties including, without limitation, ability to obtain financing and regulatory and shareholder approval for anticipated actions.
Contact:
Seamless Corporation
Investor Relations
1-(866)-284-2835
info@e-mediadirect.com
SOURCE: Seamless Corporation
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No offense to bashers, but, I still don't agree SMWF being a scam.
It's kinda hard to believe Amazon would knowing risk their reputation by getting in cahoots with a Scam, yet alone have it publicly announced.
GM ALL!! How's everything. I've not quite finished reading from where I last posted.
(Several day's worth to go)
Can someone "Stock" me up to speed?
>6^}
Thanks..
Cardiac arrest warning! May go to .03 this year.
Likely higher next year.
One of the pitfalls in situations like this is whether or not one has the patience and dedication.
Many times there are teeth grinding anger expressed on a face staring with fire red eyes and rage that at that moment would vaporize the entire galaxy, ends up cool calm and collective after a few months.
Of course the accused (some of them) knows of this and often use it to their advantage.
They’ll simply “Wait out the situation(s)” and given enough time, it might just “GO AWAY”
But, since the “Squeaky wheel” is first and last to get all the oil, (damn if more than one) generally means, diligence has its advantages.
Since at the present time the stock is not listed for trading, you'll not be able to "Sell Shares" to get your money out.
Shares you've owned in SHSNQ as at May/7/2009 were cancelled at their completion or emergence from Bankruptcy, per 8-K/A filing released May/11/2009.
Although trade symbol SHSNQ became unlisted May/12/2009, the company is apparently still active and pending trading under a different symbol within weeks.
However, there's a thorn in the thigh that came from the sales of the alleged already cancelled shares that followed May/7/2009.
There's yet to be a response to the allegations pending.
Several reactions are brewing but I believe what's where this sits for the time being.