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Yep, responsibility's all mine. But I think this one's a pure winner. I've done some digging on my own..yeah there are a couple negs...but look how its going. We'll see in 6 weeks. By the way, I'm retired Army and have been investing my retirement check since 2000 and I'm only 50. Plus I'm fully vested in Alaska a an adjunct in the teacher's union AND now I work in Kazakhstan/Russia (7 years in May). So this isn't my first and only deal I've got working. I'll retire in good shape. Just a little earlier when this goes through. Making a slight adjustment to the price now since it jumped into the .03's.
Cheers,
Phil
Well, let me remove the ambiguity...they're real and I'm expecting this implosion from the company soon.
All...lets try and work together and push these bums in the right direction. The best way they defeat us is as old as history...divide and conquer...dont you think. In business, its called "stakeholder management." Lets not forget we're on the same team...wanting to make money and this DOESN'T exclude HGLC.
Cheers,
Yep, already took the cash and transferred. Already stated my position with my votes and with a buy-back in place at .42 with a special div....be crazy not to. Keep selling them folks..damn, just jumped while I typed...sorry, need to repost my prices.
Cheers,
Phil
Like I said, when I hit the 10 Million.... my 5 year retirement plan was just excellerated to 6 weeks. And yes, I'm buying.... 2.284 Million so far and counting.
I doubt it.I dont see this as a scam. Just having a bump in the road. At least they're doing some positive things. 1) They are communicating to the shareholders and I see this as seamless. Thats a good thing. They could have kept it tucked. 2) They are negotiating with Tectane, which I see as a positive step.
E.g. the more in the open they keep this, the more I believe they are maintaining control of the issues.
Good Luck
I wouldn't doubt it with the PR from 4/8. Shows to me the shareholders are concerned and are dumping the shares....all for the Tactane CEO to gobble up. He's probably forcing a position for a leverage (just a thought). But is certainly in a position to make huge money if everyone sells (especially the shorts who wont wait for 6 weeks).
Personally, I'll wait for 6 weeks and take the.42 plus the special div. My vote's already registered for the current shares, but am about to dig into my retirement if this stays at .027 or in the .02's as you said. I'll buy about 10 Million to gain 2000% plus the special div. Even pay the tax! Letter ride for 6 weeks and turn what would have been a 5 year retirement plan into a 6 week retirement plan.
Keep selling them shorts! I'm on NITE, ETMM, AUTO and UBSS buying. When I hit the 10 Million today....
Yeah, but with the company buying the current shares at .42, and peolple selling them at .02....who's the sucker now. The company buys them back at .02...seeing people crashing at .03 at the moment....
I'll wait a month. The company's on the hook now to the shareholders who voted to sell at .42 and the additional special div. I'm buying, seeing is how the record date is 22 May. Buying as many as my household can afford. Pay date is May 22.
Cheers,
PHil
No. No bids now for a loooong time. THe shares are still under restricted legend. No one in the company has lifted the restricted legend and no one will buy them with the restricted legend.
Plus, with the BS PR's listed by this company...dont expect anything other than to get burned for all of it. These guys have no morals and really dont care what you loose. This is why I've campaigned to stop them from selling to other unsuspecting people...newbees.
Cheers & Good Luck
Then why dump that on me? The emails are not "said" either, they are real. I sent you a message. If you want to see them first hand, no problem. Give up your email address and I'll send them. If you dont want to send the address, then dont refer to them in this way anymore.
Cheers,
Phil
Well, if its not for real...I have a couple Russian claims adjusters to send after them....
I think its real and if they wanna buy it back for 0.42 per share, plus an additional .02 special div.... They have my address and know where to send the money.
Plus, now they have (after this is said and done) a Billion to sell. Money by the truck loads.
Looking at the post, the score's 152 - 2 (now 153-2). I made $$$, so BIG SMILE!
Cheers,
Phil
Why are the dates of my emails so important...and they're real. Give me your email address and I'll forward them to you.
Why dont you tell me what you really want to say...."are the emails real?".....YES! Wanna see them....give up your email and you can see for yourself. You want Saner's address, its inthe contact info here. If you cant find it..let me know, I'll send it to ya. You can have a chat with him yourself.
For the record, March 25th, April 2nd and April 5th for the previous 3.
Cheers,
Sorry so quiet. I got 2 weeks off in the past 6 months from working overseas. HGLC is NOT at the top of my priority list. Me & Momma been buzzzzzy!
Plus, its tax time!!!! Since my company pays my US Taxes, I take the time to do the paperwork with my Tax folks....bada-bing, bada-boom, gitt'in it done!
Plus, I got another grandson on the way, due in a month...so family first....HGLC....when I f#*king get to it (LOL). Sorry to be sarcastic, but I'm a real deal speaker. Give me to Monday. Plus, last word from Saner/Lumb, we're expecting a PR thats supposed to explain all this .... including the "shareholder abuse" I guess I'm targeted and tagged with. I'll be back on the onboard when I come up for air....know what I mean?
I think its the company. It appears to me they'd have to sell off all the float. So I think the headline will be "shareholders agree to the .42 buyout." Kindof a bummer really. Wanted to see this stock take off and do better than this.
Still, cant understand the reasoning for .0043. Just go figure.
i'm loaded to buy....if these folks want to sell at .066...I'm in line!!! SOLD
why are people deliberately trying to undercut this morning? if it going to take off, let it!!!
yeah, then a bunch of folks jumped in to undercut at .073 almost immediately, then dropped to .07. Amazing!
Oh Benny, you godda be kidding me! You've spoken to this guy? I'll make you a bet. Lets discuss terms of this bet....
by the end of April..... .0001, no higher
by the end of May.....r/s
by the end of the week....no different pr than whats been posted in the past, if any at all
by the end of April, still no results on Divs, stock buy-back, website...take your pick
by the end of it all...more pissed off shareholders
Get the message!
Considering there are 2 Trillion to sell off...do the math. One (or even two) could live quite well off with that kind of money.
I think Lumb is meeting with his "group." Remember them? "Me, Myself & I." LOLOLOL. One person, three cups of coffee, two filing cabinets......wonder if its a conference call....lol
All,
My recent correspondence to Mr Saner, based on his reply to me:
Mike,
Just arrived in Alaska and am attempting to follow through with what I promised (e.g. Shareholder meeting with Skype). I look forward to the post from the company, but have a couple/few questions of my own:
1) If YOU or others do not work for Lumb, then why would he be invited to the table for a "Management Meeting?"
2) If "significant players" are invited to the table, what are their roles?
3) Just what abuse are you refering to?
4) Just what stockholders are you referring to, who are being accused of "abuse?"
I really dont look for you to respond to me directly, but do look for these questions to be answered to ALL shareholders in your PR this week (or in a fortnight....whenever that may be).
I'd also recommend "the company's leadership" and/or it's "significant players" to start responding and addressing it's credibility matters. Speaking for myself, I believe the company owes me an answer to the following, with hard - committed dates:
-Dividends
-Stock buy-back
-Website
-Company removing the "Legend" (Yes/No and When if Yes)
-All related PR's that promised the company would deliver on.
If the company cannot deliver the answers with the dates of commitment, why bother to post. I know for myself, I would consider anything less another pile of meaningless and non-committal words as the cokmpany has posted in the past. To be quite honest, I dont believe anything the company posts anymore, and certainly do not believe the company really cares about the shareholders. As previously stated to you, I believe this operation (HGLC-Hunt Gold Corporation) to be a scam.
Please also note that I will be (as I have been) posting this on "investors hub" blog under HGLC.
With Regards,
Phil Schaefer
Phil,
The Board of Directors is having a Board Meeting together with other "significant players" on Monday, to resolve all outstanding issues.
Each individual involved was given a week to consider the various proposals ahead of this meeting; final decisions will be made on Monday.
A note of caution; various proposals being discussed on Monday, are in my opinion "very radical" but I accept that they are in the best interests of stockholders. We simply will no longer allow the stock to trade at US$0.0001 and below; nor will any Board Member, Consultant or Employee tolerate any more "abuse" from stockholders.
I am sure that you can appreciate that I cannot comment any further until we announce our decisions after Monday's Board Meeting.
You may however rest assured that nobody is being forced into any decisions by any party(s) and that this meeting is designed to be "constructive meeting of minds" to resolve all the issues surrounding the Company at this time.
All the best,
Mike Saner.
Ok Mike,
Just getting ready to travel....what happened to the "PR" due last Firday? Is the company going to answer the Shareholder's questions or not? And if they (you) do, will it be something other than "a fortnight" response?
Thanks,
Phil
I've made some contacts in a few days. I travel in the morning my time to Almaty, then to Alaska on Friday, be home Friday night (Alaska time). Get rid of the jet lag over the weekend....ready to rock Monday AM.
By the way Lumby boy, you didn't think I forgot about you did you? Oh, I've been a little busy with work, but I find time... Your about to crash...Wonder who'll catch up with you first, INS or IRS....too many "I's" to worry about.
I'll fill you all in Monday.
Have a good weekend.
Oh by the way Saner/Lumb and all the rest of you Lumbimites (like Tex77), where's the post due LAST WEEK?
Let me guess.....complicated and complex....be original...say we forgot or didn't feel the need to post..just be honest for once....Lumby...be the STUD you claim to be and NOT the DUD you really are.
See Ya Monday.
And no one by the name of lumb is either an owner or has shares to "influence" the company. by the way, where's the "post" that was dues at the END OF LAST WEEK FROM SANER Tex?
Yeah me too! Buy-buy birdy..buy buy!
I dont think its a scam....they've reported $113 M in revenue. If its not legit, more than the SEC will be looking into them. The proof will be in the income statement filed with the Tax Babies. They want that money!
Your dreaming if you think this is all going to blow up over "upsetting the management." C'mon get real. If this group is this sensitive, then send them a box of cleanex and move out! Morover, start producing (at least whats promised in the PR's).
.0009 at the end of '09, then we wake up and find R/S, 1m-1...
To be quite honest, never heard that term used so much outside of church. I find it interesting that one would even use the term in such a professional setting....bit your right...it would have to be a dooooozy and I could be "Rumple Stiltskin" by the time it gets out. (spelling???)
Wont open. Can you cut & paste-post? Thanks in advance.
Ok Brad...seeing how I surely enjoy your objectivity, let me give some back...answer..."I dont know." I think if this company really went legit, I'd fall over. But, who knows.
They'd first have to start showing some results. I mean, think of it this way. Either they're highly incompetent or they're really trying to scam us. Either way, we loose. Why? The PR's are too deliberate as is the rest of the situation. Take your pick, no website (which for me doesn't matter, but hey...its been over a year for such a simple thing); Restricted Legend Stocks...c'mon...still no answer on that question and even if they did....it'd take a year also; Div's...???? According to Saner a "third party" (fantom third party) is involved...no one in the company knows how to do an estimate....and we (you also) trust them with YOUR investment??? and all the rest of the non-deliveries posted as PRs. Nothing more than a high level shell game.
So, yeah, it can be done....but very difficult to gain the trust with a lack of integrity.
Anyone wondering where the PR from last week is? Saner (Lumb) said he'd post something last week....right????? Where is it? Let me guess...."a third party" is involved in this complex situation.....or "we'll have the results as soon as......" Hey, maybe the dog ate it!
So Scott, moving on means...I cant comment? Yeah, I've moved on, but I can assure you, my quest to stop these bums from attracting anyone else isn't over.
If you dont get it by now....your business. But to sucker more people....no way. I'll do what I gotta do to make sure that aint happening...
And by the way, you wanna be a lumbamite, also your business. Buy more.....
Well said and your right. PD's got this dream he's going to win with this stock. The reality is...suck it up and move on..take the write off!
In addition, the "terms and conditions" to get back into the AIM Market should be enough to say...dont come back unless you get the point..."only legit business allowed in here."
Lets not also forget the wonderful - yet compassionate messages he made during and after all this to none other than his shareholders: "your pathetic" and "your expendable and a target".....do you think his attitude has changed since then...dream on...la la land is right around the corner.
"FRAUD, FRAUD, FRAUD..." THE CROOKS HAVE A TRACK RECORD!!! LOOK AT THE FACTS....ALL TALK IN THE PR'S...NO RESULTS!!! HOW MANY LIES ARE YOU WILLING TO PUT UP WITH BEFORE YOU CALL BS?
By the way, C, F, GM, and all the rest, they run legit businesses and many people made big money on them. Plus, they put out a product. What does HGLC put out? WORDS! PR's! And none of them have taken the stock to .0002! So YES, I am calling BS and saying its fraud. So what do YOU call it?
What death threats Stockster? Who threatened his pathetic life. You mena the ones where I said he'll have "more than medical bills coming out of his wazzoo?" So you call that a death threat? The same one I said I was in contact with AIM from the London Stock Exchange? Well, I did get a repsonse, see below....
Death threats....what a jerk. I'll also be forwarding this information to the OCTBB people.
Anyway, here's the response back from AIM:
Dear Mr Schaefer,
Thank you for your email below to Lucy Leroy which was passed on to AIM Regulation.
By way of background, AIM is a market operated by the London Stock Exchange (the "Exchange"). AIM Regulation is a department within the Exchange which regulates AIM. As part of this role, AIM Regulation investigates all potential breaches of either the AIM Rules for Companies ("AIM Rules") or AIM Rules for Nominated Advisers ("Nomad Rules") and takes disciplinary action pursuant to the AIM Disciplinary Procedures and Appeals Handbook where appropriate. For the avoidance of doubt, AIM Regulation’s remit does not extend to matters beyond the AIM Rules or Nomad Rules. We are therefore not able to advise or investigate commercial matters or those relating to corporate law or financial services as they fall outside our remit.
Please be advised that Hanover Capital Group Plc was cancelled from AIM back in 2003 and neither Fotress Financial Group nor Hunt Gold Corporation were ever admitted to trading on AIM market.
We will however keep this correspondence for future reference, as Mr Lumb fully knows the terms and conditions of his being permitted again to trade on the AIM market.
Kind regards,
AIM REGULATION
And my response back:
DEAR AIM REGULSTION,
Thank you for kindly responding. If Mr Lumb does in fact submit for reinstatement, I would request to be notified and further propose a hearing on his activities after being banned in 2003. I would also request he show proof of being an honorable person in the trade business since his disciplinary actions were severe enough for him to be personally "banned" from either trading or be involved in a company on your exchange that trades (if this is in fact the case).
Lastly, I would request a copy of the public file on this case. How would I obtain this? I believe several of the shareholders for both companies (HGLC and FFGO) would be interested in seeing this information, as well as the OTCBB exchange, the SEC and the Florida authorities. If you would send me any forms or links to these forms for me to complete, I would greatly appreaciate it.
With Many Thanks & Kind Regards,
Phillip Schaefer
Yeah, wondering the same thing. Where's the statement Saner, Lumb and the Lumbamites.
All, I wrote to the LSE-AIM today and am expecting a response anytime. If not, I'll be calling her. I hope to contact the US Exchange next week to look into the matter, as well as all the good info posted by share oasis (good job by the way). The problem is distance. I'm still in Kazakhstan and the long distance calls....trying to it by Skype aint easy. But, like oasis, I'm in. I dont want to see anyone get bliked anymore. I'm cutting this guy off...
Here's the message to Lucy Leroy from AIM:
Dear Mrs Lucy Leroy,
I'm a private investor who's invested in a company called "Hunt Gold Corporation," owned by a Mr Stephen Craig Lumb. After investing in this stock and after being a part of the blogs, I've done some digging on my own and have come to understand that Mr Lumb has quite the track record with stock trading, especially with the LSE-AIM, where he was banned until 2010, with his Hanover Capital Group.
I am reporting to you that this culture has not changed by him moving his operations to the US. His Fotress Financial Group and Hunt Gold Corporation are filled with the same scammers and is bilking people out of their money and I refer to him as a "mini-Madoff."
Please look into this before considering his reinstatement. Please collaborate with the US OTC Pink Sheets Exchange and look into the matter. This person (in my opinion) needs to be barred indefinately.
I can be contacted on this email address.
With Kind Regards,
Phillip Schaefer
Ok, first what makes you think this will happen? Plus, what makes you think the company will lift the Legends Restrictions?
60 days...I dont think they'd change in 60 years... FFGO is their rationale and part of the track record, and I dont think they've changed in the past month or two to make anyone in here believe different.
Cheers,
Phil
I think this is where PGYC will go also. The only bad news is, their stock will get more diluted...but...attract more money for investment.
I'm so happy I went long on this. When they went through their rut, I was ready to bail.....looking pretty good now. Lets see what happens with the comms the next day or so.
"SSSSSSSSSSMOK'IN!"
I think Saner is the key. He stated in his past emails to me he would forward the information to the Board...who sits on the board? My last post of the day....going to eat, go to bed and enjoy the reading inhere...until tomorrow....same bat time, same bat channel
OUTSTANDING INFO. I agree, everyone should file....