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one WEEK screwed with service down and it is still NOT solved
Instead of trading we still have to look forward to more ..."THERE MAY STILL BE SOME ROUGH PATCHES"
then the update says "9:00am UPDATE" and I looked way AFTER that time , many times, and there was no update posted but hey, it says 9:00 ...
I still think we don't know the real thing what's going on.
NO WAY!
It just doesn't make sense them to go down SYSTEMATICALLY and consistently and usually when you need it most, all the while most if not all the other charting services run smoothly!!!
And SC said they now have performing hardware...
Do you believe words or do you believe what you see?
It just doesn't add up!
test2
test
yep
another day NO charts
Yuck
One ugly WEEK down
As usual at critical market points!
Big let down.
How comes OTHER charting services work just fine ?????????????
hmm
:0(
intraday CHARTS ARE DEAD :0(
How can I use dead charts?
Why the sudden downturn and breakdown of stockcharts ?
Was the new hardware cheap machines ?
Data do come in as the dead charts are aware of it in the upper info but the charts bellow remain DEAD
This is HORRIBLE
they SC say real time is down for 2nd day!
It makes me feeling like a moron for paying for RT
But I have more news for you
You know what I mean -> more BAD news
1. even the delayed data is delayed...
WAY DELAYED !
It is basically down.
At one and a half hour past the open when I should be seeing three (3) bars in 60 minute chart ... I was still looking at one (1) bar (first bar) which was basically inside the LESS than first 30 min first bar of the day...!
So even delayed charting is useless.
Almost entire service is either down or at "best" unreliable.
@%#_#@
2. did you tried lately in last 2 days to add or modify charts in one of your lists? If you are given same problem as I see then you'd be destroying your charts/list
this is also for at least second day in the going
I am pinned down in one of the worst times
:0(
bobjack, good post
however, I have to disagree on comparing QLD to options and also on liquidity explanation.
QLD is not options and shall not be affected by ANY volatility whatsoever more than QQQQ is.
QLD is supposed to track QQQQ at 200% and that is no rubber band.
Liquidity shall be made available as it goes with zero differential from 200% mark , nevermind the bid/ask quantities. We live in 21st century with a nearly 100% computerized "market"..
If it does go astray from QQQQ then it doesn't make sense at all and it is anything but what it was said to be. We are basically lied to and there is no point in trading something unreliable moving only as some thugs decided.
JMO
thanks for the good post
hope others will also chip in with some opinions
why different chart QQQQ vs. QLD ? anyone?
here are just two examples:
1. Thursday 6/7 and Friday 6/8 QQQQ did NOT touch Daily EMA 50 while QLD did touch and even crossed it and went lower (this element shows just how deep and compounded this non-conformance goes)
2. the second example, Friday 6/8 QLD plunged well bellow 5/24 close by -0.43 lower or ...0.50% lower, while QQQQ did NOT break bellow that same close not even 1 cent.
WHY so ?
they should be moving absolutely the same not with 0.50% difference
and definitely their close and open shall be the same not so horribly skewed that ends up showing in a long average
any opinions
I was wondering if there is historical data (charts) with special cases that do not exist anymore like Enron (ENE)
for the purpose of study of course
is there any way
?
:0|
Cush, I'm glad you finally got to add those 2 index charts
wow, everything in a clear uptrend
in case you forgot I asked you if you can please add Bollinger Bands 20,2.0 (in golden color to look fainted) ; and EMA 50 (green if possible)
thanks
test
Breastfeeding
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Breast milk has the right amount and quality of nutrients to suit your baby's first food needs. It is also the easiest on her digestive system, so there's less chance of constipation or diarrhea.
Not long ago, many people in western countries like Canada believed that bottlefeeding was better than breastfeeding. Today, we know that breastfeeding offers your baby the best start. If you experience problems, don’t be surprised if some people encourage you to give up. But before you do, ask for help and support—it’s out there
What should breastfeeding mothers eat?
Breastfeeding mothers need to eat a variety of nutritious foods without restrictions. You should avoid dieting while you are breastfeeding.
How do I know when it's time for a feeding?
At first, you're going to do a lot of feeding on demand, feeding your baby whenever she's hungry. This could mean up to every two to three hours. Typically, you can expect to breastfeed 8 to 12 times over a 24-hour period.
Feed your baby from each breast for as long as she wants. Alternate the breast you begin with at each feeding. This allows each breast to produce the proper amount of milk at each feeding.
Sometimes babies may want to feed more frequently and for very short periods of time. This is called “cluster feeding” and often occurs in the evening. This may mean your baby is going through a growth spurt. These usually happen around 2 weeks, 4 to 6 weeks, 3 months, and 6 months. Let your baby set the pace.
this is just testing
You'll have more success with your imprecations, bb...
...if you copy/paste from his posts directly. LOL!
So here you go, some forbidden yet most appropriately colourful language to use when addressing the Abominable x-man.
Fuсk off, x, you lying _______!
bаstаrd , son of a bіtch , sack of shіt , motherfuсkеr
fuсk , Fuсk off, lying son of a bіtch!
end of testing
When should mothers express their breast milk?
If your breasts are engorged (larger, sore, and feeling extremely full), your newborn may have difficulty latching on. You can express some milk by gently massaging or pushing by hand or with a breast pump. This may help your baby latch on.
Once you've got a breastfeeding routine, you can express your breast milk by hand or with a breast pump if you're away from your baby during feeding time. This will allow your baby to have breast milk from a cup or a bottle (depending on the baby's age). It is also a way for your partner or others to feel a part of your baby's life.
Expressed breast milk is also a way to keep breastfeeding while your baby is in child care facility. Make sure the centre or home has a refrigerator, as milk has to be kept chilled until feeding time.
How should expressed breast milk be stored?
Expressed breast milk should be kept in a sterilized glass bottle or plastic container with the date marked on it. Plastic polyethylene bags, such as commercial bottle liners, are not recommended. Breast milk contains essential antibodies (IgA) that help protect your baby. Using plastic bags to freeze expressed breast milk could cause some of these antibodies to be lost.
Store expressed breast milk in the refrigerator for up to 48 hours. You can also store it for two weeks in your refrigerator freezer (not in the door) or for up to six months in a a deep freezer with a temperature below -18°C.
When you are freezing breast milk, do not add warm expressed milk to milk that has been already chilled or frozen. This may encourage bacteria to grow.
end of testing
StockCharts is garbage in this regard
screwing charts ex-dividend
it is the worst of the kind that can be
If it was for this I would go away and screw them
I need to trust charts, real, not "man made"
screw that
There are some good things about stockcharts and that makes me still stick around but I am deeply dissatisfied with them screwing charts
I HATE THEM FOR THAT
DEEPLY
I don't want nobody to distort charts because their "mind" say so.
The only exception is split and that is not even an exception is natural to adjust EVERYTHING BY THE SAME SCALE
But with dividends they make a crime against customers.
I complained but they are deaf and insensitive,
they only care about their subjective will
While swearing and cursing I have to go to other places to get correct support and resistance numbers because stockcharts is incompetent.
They should offer option of to adjust or not.
Not to just screw us with such garbage.
The evidence I found is that charts shall NOT be modified.
People remember numbers and that is what provides support and resistance in real world. This is especially true when differences are moderate.
They did some good deeds but this was not one of them.
This was a stupid idea and a stupid decision.
And they still hang to it probably because big ego.
Unhappy
:0(
Chip explains SOME of recent SC problems:
MORE SPEED LEADS TO HUGE SLOW DOWNS
Issue Date: Apr 22, 2007
The markets did great this week with the Dow hitting record highs and closing in on 13,000 however almost no one here at StockCharts.com was paying much attention. As most ChartWatchers know, we spent much of the week wrestling with technical glitches. I thought I'd take some time to explain what we've learned about the problems and the steps we are taking to prevent them from happening again. If you are not interested in computers and networks, now might be a good time to skip down to the other articles .
About a year ago we started upgrading all of the equipment here at StockCharts.com from the slower 100 Megabit networking speed to the newer 1 Gigabit speed. (Most home networking equipment works at 100 Megabits although - like us - you can upgrade your stuff to 1 Gigabit relatively inexpensively these days.) Upgrading our network to the faster speed has many benefits to all of our users: our servers send around stock price data faster, the charts we create get sent out faster, we can backup our server data faster, etc. In order to upgrade a network, you have to replace (or upgrade) both the computers and the switches on the network. (A switch is a device that connects all of the wires from all the different computers. Most home networks have a switch built into the router/firewire device that the broadband modem plugs into.)
Now, there is a hidden problem with upgrading the speed of any network - a problem that most of the network equipment people don't tell you about. With few exceptions, there is always a point where your high speed network meets a slower speed device. In our case, our three connections to the Internet work at 45 Megabits and so, at some point, all of our outbound traffic has to slow dramatically in order to get out one of those wires.
The situation is analogous to a sink with a slow drain and a big faucet. The slow drain represents the slow connections to the Internet, The big faucet represents the fast connections to our charting servers, and the water represents all of the bits that make up our charts. The overall goal of the network is to keep the sink from overflowing.
If the water is able to go down the drain as fast as it is coming out of the faucet, everything is fine. The sink remains almost completely empty. Even if there are occasional high-speed bursts of water from the faucet, things are probably fine also. The extra water just stays in the sink until the drain has a chance to "catch up." The sink "buffers" the extra water for the drain.
Problems happen when the amount of water coming out of the faucet exceeds the amount of water going down the drain for a "long time" and the sink becomes completely full. At that point, any additional water that comes out of the faucet will get spilled (i.e., lost).
Coming back to the world of networking, this process of "buffering" (i.e., the sink) happens inside whichever device is connecting the high-speed network to the slower speed network - typically the switch (or the router/modem in most homes).
Now, when we started to upgrade our network to gigabit speed, the first thing we did was go out and buy some very nice, high-speed switches from a very well known network equipment manufacturer. Where a consumer level gigabit switch might cost $50 these days, the ones we got cost several thousand dollars (which is typical for enterprise networking). In return for that money, we supposedly got three things - long-lasting hardware, big sinks, and software that would tell us if the sinks ever overflowed. (See where I'm going with this?)
Ultimately, most of last week's problems were caused by a buffer overflowing inside one of those new switches. That is no surprise to any of us - it was one of the first things we looked for. The bigger problem was that everyone was confused by four facts:
1. The switch didn't give us any indication that it was having problems.
2. Everything had been working great up until last Wednesday.
3. Even at our busiest times, we were only sending out about 70 megabits of data - much less than the 100 megabits that our "drain" allows.
4. When data went out through our slower ISP, everything worked fine.
Ironically, the answer to the mystery lay in the article that I wrote in the last newsletter - the one where I sort of bragged about how much faster we were able to generate charts these days. By increasing the speed at which we create our charts, we metaphorically increased the speed at which water was bursting into the sink from the faucet. The result was an overwhelmed sink and thus, data loss.
The immediate solution was to slow our network back down to 100 megabits. That smoothed out the flow of data and stopped the data loss at the switch. Obviously that is not the right long-term solution though because we lose all of the other advantages of gigabit networking. The long-term solution is to upgrade our switches to ones with HUGE sinks (i.e., memory buffers) which we will be doing this weekend. Once that work is complete, you can expect our site to be faster than ever.
In case you missed the announcements on the website, we have credited ALL subscribers with an additional two free weeks of service to make up for last week's problems. Thanks for continuing to support StockCharts.com
- Chip Anderson
http://stockcharts.com/commentary/archives/cww20070421m.html#john_murphy_the_mark
slow? not slow... after close..
&$%#*$#^
thanks Cush, please do that
and sure , $TSX is fine
Cush, yes to them
anyway they hang in there they might as well say something to us which I feel they should while we browse around here
"are you referring to the charts used as an example in the Forum Board Info?"
TIA
SC down again , grrrrrr
!#^#&$#*
Cush, can you please add 2 more charts
namely $SPX and $GOLD
and have BB20 MA50 and MA100 for all , or just 2 if the free limit would be at 2 (BB20 and MA50)
When I check for posts I find it neat to be able to have a glance at the market. But I always find it bad that it's missing having at least 2 basic main averages.
The "extra" load on server because of this would be totally negligible as this forum is not at all heavily visited.
--- and most of us are paying subscribers of SC anyway!
thanks
Meatloaf, WHATEVER you did has helped and restored the situation back to normal
this is obvious to me
I use IE6 and never before had a problem like this and I can not see how IE or my side /PC can be responsible for blocking a certain board while being normal on others. That doesn't make technical sense I'd say.
It makes sense the problem to be created on I-Hub side.
The important thing is that whatever you did helped and things are back to normal again for me.
I hope it remains this way.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=16842786
many thanks
test, wow it's magic, something's changed, thanks
Meatloaf, as I explained in my previous post
it does nothing if I click on "click here to return to where you were"
it just remains on same page
Over and over in a loop.
If I want to at least read messages there then I am forced to logOUT and delete all temporary files and cookies.
It is pretty bad.
It was not so. Something must have changed or got corrupted on the site recently.
"It will NOT go past that no matter what, even if I click "click here to return to where you were" which in the recent past used to work and used to take me to the forum page."
thanks for reply
I can not access anymore the 'StockCharts.com Support Forum' if I login
it is in "Free Zone/Support Forum"
if I logOUT and delete cookies then I can just read posts there but if I login then I can not post and not even read anymore - no access whatsoever.
After I login the page opens to home page, and I can not use my saved favorites for stockcharts support board like in the past as it will take me to subscription page as a dead end.
If I try and click one by one the long way 'boards/free boards/support forum/stockcharts' , it also stops to the "welcome" page where it says 'Investors Hub Subscription Page'
It will NOT go past that no matter what, even if I click "click here to return to where you were" which in the recent past used to work and used to take me to the forum page.
can you please help
thanks
test, I wonder why I cannot post on StockCharts I-hub board
it says free (services section) but can only read
StockCharts = a big let down
they cost me money today , around $300 profit lost due to staying on sidelines.
I do use other service but I like to look at both.
stockcharts = a big let down
stockcharts = a big disappointment
charts are down again ? :0(
clicking on "member" tab will give me a "The page cannot be displayed" blank dreaded screen
unhappy
:0(
(was working earlier)
so for candleglance the scan results may be put in a new list and then the list viewed in candleglance
:0)
so true, and I also can't understand why we are not given the option of creating a list of a new symbol in a quick way.
create a new list in which I would copy another list (or a default list) , and just have the option to change the symbol for all charts in the new list all at once.
instead I have to go one by one, call a single chart, change the symbol, add it as a "new" chart, then go back and delete the previous chart, curse, curse some more, and repeat the idiotic process for all the charts in the list
yuck
I like the Cybertrader chart system. You don't need many separate "lists". Just put a symbol or a new symbol and that's it, you got all your setting instantaneously in all your set time frames.
re: If enough people would write maybe they would fix things.
I get the feeling that they don't really care, and they will only change and care when a competitor will take away customers..
Quasi and Dead, re: transfers and other bad broker stuff
- when you have a bank account with TD the account gets credited IMMEDIATELY. All the paper "work" , the criminal run around takes place in the shadow and you won't feel it. (I do have an account with them as well but I do not trade there.. until they will drop the fees to 10 or lower UNCONDITIONALLY)
If you don't have a bank account with them then you suffer for a week as they transfer everything by horse...
- re: "as soon as I have a chance". And re: "I have several accounts at BMO for myself and the wife, would be a pain to move them all"
That depends entirely 100% on you and on you only. I don't see the word "chance" fitting in anywhere. Just look and calculate how much you paid to those undeserving, expensive and ungrateful bloodsucking "brokers". I changed my account IMMEDIATELY as I came across a better deal. I'm only loyal to my family and my family's money. I did NOT stop to think even for a second! Not only I got better deal, but better tools too.
And I did it four times, and I did it with multiple accounts , and I did it for two people, and it included three types of accounts, and it included RRSP.
And I am a regular person, just like yourselves.
It feels great. Is it the end of the road? Well, ..... the moment I see a better deal I take my money and go over there!
THIS IS A BUSINESS. No sentiments. I'd move to ... Australia if it would be good for my family's money.
At the beginning I too thought it would be a hassle and a pain to move accounts. This is what those brokers bank on. Then I said f'em, and did the "hard work" of transferring, and I can assure you it is NOT HARD AT ALL.
I do not regret anything other than ... not leaving earlier..
I had BMO. There is no such thing as "local office" anymore for as long time now. The bank won't deal for investing accounts saying that "it's a separate business".. right...
Fact is that the other brokers that are better, you DO NOT have to go and talk to nobody's face (mano to mano).
They are just that - good brokers!
p.s. IB do have two disgusting things (but tolerable):
1. they enforce US rule (illegally!) upon Canadians when it comes to take... They enforce DTP (day trading pattern) on accounts with less than 25k (and I do not know if they have yet RSP).
2. they do NOT enforce US rules when it comes to give... They give in US more margin than to Canadians...
(at least this was the situation the last time I checked)
It is long overdue. Leave those bloodsucking "brokers" in the dust. Do yourselves a favor and leave excuses, and move your money to a greener pasture.
You and your family will get a well deserved bonus and satisfaction.
GL
re: TDW, BMO, ETrade
why not using IB or Questrade?
then you won't have to worry about 30 trades to get fair trade commission
am I missing something ?
yes, but... don't jinx it pls. :0)
question to you guys that trade more often
I hardly day trade but recently given the correction pending...
I day trade more often
I saw some comments on other boards and wonder what is the reality
The question is in regard to income tax technicality:
Is it a problem when day trading with this?
Someone said that it may be a problem because they want you to pay taxes sooner, not to the end of year. Is that true?
But some days are bad and some good
as day traders we don't know what end of year profit will be if any
it may even be a loss
what do you know in this regard from your experience ?
TIA
for a week? and you traded how?
kind of hard to believe..
especially since ours work
:0)
maybe your PS is bugged
Deadb440, re: This is not the COMPLAINT DEPT!!
that is correct
and complains shall be indeed forwarded also to the address you provided (support@stockcharts.com)
However, people take out their frustration here on a regular basis.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
On the contrary, I and many others find it is very important actually as it also helps others to see/verify if the problems are from their PC or from stockchart and this is way faster than any answer you may or may not get from 'support'
I habitually log into the site in the morning just to see if there are any problems (complains)
I'm actually thankful for this and encourage it if I may as it seems to be an almost real time helpline info on things that are down
Needless to say I'm relieved each morning that goes by with no complains - it makes me feel good :0)
It is very practical
GLTY
Trader77, many thanks
that should help
GLTY
oo_buck, like I said to Deadb440 (pls see previous post to him), it just doesn't make any sense.
I'll repeat some of that here:
"MACD is based on 2 moving averages, and a 3rd one is an average of those 2 averages. Theoretically (and I'd say practically and/or logically) if those 2 averages go upward ... so MUST go the 3rd, and so must the whole thing."
You are saying that the "PPO and MACD tend to return to the zero line when the price stays stable"
Well, like I said, you are "using 6,12,6 => they are small MAs and as such are prone to wiggling and vulnerable to programmed manipulation (see weaknesses of MA) and they may be forced to move opposite to price."
While you do not have the small MAs on your chart (6 and 12) their components (building blocks) are wiggling which may be the cause for it (MACD) to go down (or up) to zero. (just guessing so far!)
Speaking of NG... ironically I also bot some BGO recently hoping for a bottom and a quick buck but the gold seems weak again ..
thanks for input
GL
Deadb440, indeed weekly has more merit and I did not refer to weekly when I said "useless". Sorry for miscommunication.
I do not intend to put down weekly PPO but those places that have/gave signals, have also good candlestick signals. I normally would trade off those candlesticks alone and often try to remember looking for them. It is of course easier said than done as I get lost watching all kind of (other) things... (including talking heads..)
MACD is based on 2 moving averages, and a 3rd one is an average of those 2 averages. Theoretically (and I'd say practically and/or logically) if those 2 averages go upward ... so MUST go the 3rd, and so must the whole thing.
I feel like a fool but that's what I see and think.
The market movers love to trap us with wrong readings on the indicators, and while I managed to avoid some ... after some bleeding of course..., I am still stuck on this PPO/MACD paradox and non-sense.
using 6,12,6 => they are small MAs and as such are prone to wiggling and vulnerable to programmed manipulation (see weaknesses of MA) and they may be forced to move opposite to price.
I can see/understand that possibility.
However, ... when using higher/bigger MAs (like 12, 25, and 50) where they are clearly in trend (in our case downtrend), there is no much wiggling if any. Therefore I believe it should be mathematically impossible for MACD to rise given that the elements of its construction are falling in a sure way.
To make matters worse this paradox can go on for a painfully long time ... past any MA 'wiggling'.
I am sure the market movers have a good laugh off this.
Because weekly is a higher time frame with less wiggling on MAs it becomes more stable and has less such "paradoxes". Ironically it just goes to prove the point..
Thanks for the scan. I'm sure to use it.
I believe in a down/bear market you may want also a down going PPO scan.. :0)
Oh well, they just introduced some reverse index stocks where you can play long the bear situation..:0)
PSQ Nasdaq 100
SH S&P500
DOG Dow
:0)
Deadb440, it was very cool from you
again
That was another lovely post from you. As you can see the PPO 6,12,6 was just as useless on its own.
Well, assuming you have to add it to other indicators for confirmation as we usually need, you are going to have bad guidance don't you.(!) So much for assistance from it in the hour of need.
By knowing the "why" behind the indicator behavior you would avoid the "lies" and "cheats" of the "market" (movers).
Usually indicators have what I call "life of the phase" (or cycle if you will). It shall take (±)'x' units to live from oversold to overbought, just like for a human it shall take about 65-80 years from childbirth to heavens. Anything way less or way more than that is an obvious serious divergence.
If a human would look like 80 years old by age of 10 would you be concerned? Of course you would. It would point to expectations of imminent death in spite of so young actual age (clock).
If a human would remain child looking (and behaving) by age of 30 would you be concerned? Of course you would. It would point out failure of maturity and unlikely to come any-longer..
So it is what is happening with the indicators. But>>>
But you MUST know (about) the life of the indicator first to be able to evaluate.
Basically we shall just expect indicators to give us what we normally expect them to give us. However, we shall monitor their life. If the life goes astray, then we ought to adjust our expectation dramatically from the given indicator.
As an example, I'm sure you noticed at times an indicator going too fast from oversold to overbought and then price just collapsed even more..
I don't know if you realize but my original (very important!) question about the MACD is still left out (MACD and/vs MA). I assume because it is a tough one to answer. At least for me it is.
I hope someone , one of us, will be able to answer in the end. It truly pisses me off. I feel like (we are) a girl driving a car and not knowing why the car is moving. All I know is to put the key in the contact and press the pedal from the right which I probably won't even know that it's a gas pedal..
Laughable but SAD, very sad.
all the best
deadb440, you were a ray of sunshine
I collected few scan ideas mainly from Cush but I did not yet do work on this so I'm not any good at this yet. This was the reason why I did not show any scan attempt. Not at all laziness as I felt it was implied.
I had other scan questions but I felt that they may be answered by whatever info I saw and gathered so far on this site.
This question/scan seemed more complicated and I thought to ask.
I am very very thankful for your help
Now.... let's "argue"...
re: "you need to realize that a standard macd setting for one stock doesn't necessarily work for another."
I totally disagree. MACD is standard to begin with. To some stocks it will work while on others will not - as it is.
Of course you can play with the parameters, but IMO there is not such thing as custom made indicator (parameter) per stock.
re: "if you have a long positive divergence with declining price action you can bet that the price is near a bottom and likely to reverse"
kind of collude with this:
"the longer the divergence the greater potential for accuracy."
And as per my example it went so on and on for ... 4 months!...
re: "I have learned is that it's not necessary to understand the underlying theorum of an indicator "
Well, I have learned exactly the opposite. First I was lazy for a very long time and just relied on indicators as they were. Then I saw them not working all the time. Then I saw fake/"wrong" prints and then strange formations of price. Then I heard the term "painting the tape". Long story short, I connected the dots and started to put some effort into HOW (some of) the indicators work. I uncovered that the price is often used to blind various indicators at various times (i.e. gapped doji is a stealth move). Also, I realized that indicators are sometimes worthless and BAD to use.
By knowing how an indicator work you may know what may happen as a result of today action - i.e. no potential left, in spite of the indicator still pointing to same direction.
I do not argue about x-over, divergences, or center line. Actually I am not interested in arguing at all.
I pointed out a weird condition and I am strongly interested in how it was done.
If MACD is based on moving average lines , and they are rising, then how in the world MACD can go down ... and for so long period?
IS IT MATHEMATICALLY POSSIBLE ?
or... we are fed wrong data?
again, many many thanks for your time and effort
GL
Cush, thoughtful post but I also have a point in my other post
about the "tango" and your points:
"1. someone has to have enough interest in the scan being sought to spend their time trying to create it, and then answering the poster.
... I would say people (here) in this occupation/hobby ought to have interest. A very normal and natural expectation to have, don't you think? You can't go to a church and expect to find gambling. Likewise here I expect what it should be normal for the place.
and as you later on point out: "As we have seen, there are some excellent, thoughtful people posting on this forum."
"2nd - that someone has to have an idea of how to create the post, or enough interest to want to discuss it with the poster."
re: "enough interest to want" (again that word!)-> see the above
re: "someone has to have an idea of how to create the post"
come on now, we don't deal here with analphabets or low IQ. People write all the time and who cares if a post is not perfect.
"3rd - that someone has to want to respond to the poster."
I'm not sure how to read this. :0/
The last line has merit: "people seem more ready to get involved if the original poster shows how he or she has attempted to create the scan.
However, if someone asks me something I know and is not a trade secret, I won't be looking to see that person scramble to do it first..
I would help.
That's me.
thanks for reply
GL2U2
I donno Cush, re: "TA and Scans, Go for it.."
I got zip, nada answer to this recent post
not even a limp idea
an absolute zero
totally disappointing :0(
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13444535
as was this one on another board
just as disappointing and let down
"I have a TA question :
it puzzles me one thing and try to figure it out
MACD is a momentum indicator and uses moving averages
question: when moving averages rise upward along with rising price (of course), how can it be possible for MACD to be negative and/or go downward ?
Or likewise, how can it be possible for MACD to be positive and/or go upward all the while price falling ? (i.e. see daily INTC Feb-May 2006, a 4 month period)
And this can be done for extended periods of time..
How the market programs succeed in doing it?
What's the trick used ?
many MANY thanks"
so much for trying
:0(