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Kag, you have been searching for a way to create some alleged misdeeds by BioCurex management. You obviously are not an attorney or a great debater, because what you are implying is that there was an intentional use of verbage in the 8K to mislead investors.
In actuality, those semantics literally created speculation which caused the share price to go down. Do you think that was the goal of Dr Moro to lower the share price? That statement in the 8K certainly did not entice new investors and cause the share price to rise.
Dr Moro has spoken on this matter and it is over.
Ironically, the sole person you continue to target may statistically be the one who's life's work may be the one to save yours.
Management at BioCurex and the SEC have a history and the SEC knows Dr Moro to be an honest businessman and if anything owe him an apology for literally stalling his research. There won't be an investigation because we have an intact licensing agreement.
I'm sure everyone here is waiting with bated breath to see what Dr Moro's next alleged misdeed will be.
Kag, you have your conspiracy theory. Well, I have mine, and it has to with desparation to keep Recaf out of the market. Hmmmmm.....
Gold, don't forget that no one from our scientific board ever jumped ship nor have they spoken negatively about Recaf. Dr Sell is the chairman of the upcoming ISOBM and I expect him to share information with other attendees about Recaf.
I recall most who sold recently have been in and out several times.
What will be even more ironic is when Recaf is commercialized and they thank their lucky stars it has.
I guess me and Half must be brilliant, because we not only did not sell, we added to our position. Listen to the webcast and you will hear that revenues are around the corner. Again, no one knows what is going on behind closed doors, but pretty soon they will be printing money. I like their (Dr Moro and Dr Wittenberg) sense of self confidence.
Yeah, we took a massive beating this month, but I think management learned a grave lesson. They now realize that shareholders are a close second only slightly trumped by their continued research.
We must have a poison pill in place. That has now become of major importance. After almost 5 years I'd say it's time to get paid. We need to add a couple zeroes to end of today's share price.
Gold, you were just getting my respect and there you go again embellishing on what was said directly from Dr Moro. Don't try and justify your selling to us. You brought this upon yourself. Obviously, you will never be satisfied with the fact that we actually have a legally binding, intact licensing agreement with Abbott. You want the actual transcripts of the negotiations. You are now way out of bounds. Concentrate on facts if you really wish to conribute as you have in the past. I enjoy your posts, but enough is enough in regards to the license with Abbott.
GS, I respect you for your admission that you made a mistake. Can't you buy back in another brokerage acct and still take the loss? I know there is a 31 day rule, but any gains in BOCX can be offset by your losses. Don't forget more news about the ISOBM will continue our momentum upward. We are so close you really chose the worst time to sell. I don't treat my investments like gambling (which I do plenty of) and long term you have to be very bullish and you should be coming around to the fact that there are so many things going on behind closed doors that it will not serve your personal best interest's to overreact and shoot yourself in the foot. You obviously took the loss, but your selling took us down with you.
I don't like to see someone lose money, but GS you really tried to take everyone down with you. It would not be irresponsible to buy shares ack in another acct. Good luck. Please stick with us longs...you won't be sorry.
Press Release. You are cooked as I have stated many times. Lesson learned? Please don't speak for others when repuatation and people investments are being affected.
I believe Dr Moro is now getting all of his ducks in a row on just what he can and cannot say about our intact licensing agreement. There are obviously areas in the licensing agreement which are to be kept confidential, so he may be limited on what he says, but it will certainly end your contrived theory about Abbott returning the licensing agreement. According management no such thing has occurred, so get that apology ready.
Gold, you are doing it again when you posted..."One statement near the end was incorrect stating that Abbott was going to pay royalties."
Did you witness the licensing agreement? Why should investors continue to fall for your theory that we do not have an agreement with Abbott? I'll be a lead plaintiff if it comes out that Dr Moro and Dr Wittenberg indeed do not have a current binding licensing agreement, I think you are coming around and realize that there is just no way that anyone would risk a prison sentence by blatantly and repeatedly deceiving shareholders. They have cognizantly said Abbott has an intact license. I'm sorry GS, you are unequivocally mistaken.
I just want GS to realize that his overreaction and apparent desperation to sell to the wolves that have been circling, may turn out to be one of the worst, irrational actions he has ever committed in his lifetime.
I read in writing from Dr Moro on July 3rd, 2008....."it is Management's opinion that the recent market activity is disconnected from the Company's fundamentals in terms of cash position, technology value, licensing agreements and recently announced commercialization initiatives."
I see it says licensing "AGREEMENTS"...(plural).
Then last week, and again this week, we heard it in 2 separate interviews from Dr Wittenberg. Both specifically saying 2 intact licensing agreements with Abbott and with Inverness.
Bottomline. You have already committed $150,000.00 dollars to losses betting that Dr Moro and Dr Wittenberg are headed to prison. WOW! You put your money where your mouth is to sell at these levels. You are responsible for creating some of your own losses by your statements on this board and your need to dump your shares at any cost.
You lost a pretty sizable amount of cash. Not good for you, but when Dr Moro spells it out clearly that we have a legally binding, INTACT licensing agreement with Abbott to commercialize Recaf, there are going to be alot of angry shareholders on one side for listening to someone in a chat room voice their personal opinion to sway others, and on the flipside, there will be those shareholders that trusted the CEO of the company they had invested in that will be rejoicing. I placed my bet on Recaf and Dr Moro. The share price will immediately return to fair value soon after his remarks to clarify any recent confusion.
IMO we will be up today after the interview.
Gold, do remember studying for exams in college and you are overprepared, and when you take the test the questions seem too easy and you seem to read into it and it causes you to overthink the answer and you answer incorrectly. I think you have done the same thing here. You may have spent way too much time overthinking this and developed your own worst nightmare.
Zolax. I want to give you the moderator position. By the way, I never accepted. Enjoy!
Ahhhhhhhhhh.....Finally...Peace and quiet.
Gold, what is your response to my last post about Dr Wittenberg commenting on having TWO licensees?
Gold, toward the end of Wittenberg's audio he says, and I am quoting (from July 20, 2008) "We have TWO licensing agreements in with TWO very large companies." You can't say it if it isn't true. Gold, I respect you and your contributions, but you know darn well that you could not even whisper Abbott's name without their legal department allowing so. How on God's green Earth can someone with authority blatantly say such a thing if it was not true? Are you saying this is all semantics? It would not only be unjust, it would most certainly be criminal. I am not seeing your logic to shoot first and then ask questions. Why not give Dr Moro a chance to answer before you sell at these ridiculous levels? We are now literally scraping the bottom.
First off listen clearly to Wittenberg and read our previous press releases it says clear as day that we CURRENTLY have licensing agreements with Abbott and Inverness and I believe that Abbott's lawyers would never allow us to make this claim if it were untrue! I know just mentioning there name on any press release they demanded clearance with their lawyers. I was told some of the previous press releases were delayed until they received such said approval. I know we have proven the technology works this is not a big charade or hoax. I agree it would be in shareholders best interest to clarify our agreement with Abbott.
Bottom line to increase the share price 4 things have to happen:
1)Divulge our money situation and where he plans to fund the continuation of our operations.
2)Clarify the Abbott agreement.
3)Find out why the share price is where it is at (shorting or lose of shareholder confidence).
4)When will we see commercialization in Recaf and where? US or outside the US?
When these questions are answered (and I trust they will) we can put in a bottom and look toward positive news as we approach the ISOBM.
Just my 2 cents.
I like the comment about no progress. We have succeeded to develop from only a concept in Dr Moro's mind, to 3 (independently) proven tests which for some investors was their previous battle cry as to why we would fail. Then it was a lack of publication. We now know that it was deliberate because of a lack of patent protection. Now it is money. He did not back away from what was right with Abbott and he showed his integrity when he rewrote the deal. Now he has had enough of this nonsense on I-Hub and he found a way to cut off the bull**** written here. Where did Zolax go? Did the SEC come knocking yet? It is illegal to naked short and there is an investigation, and hopefully some justice.
They are literally horrified at BioCurex by the share price and cannot understand what just happened, but money is the issue at hand, and it comes down to a foot race to close some deals. I know I appear positive in dire times, but there is a definite sense of urgency by management and I believe it will work toward the shareholder's benefit in the near term. You never know what news may be coming.
I put a market order for 10000@ the ask 10 minutes ago and it has not filled. Pure manipulation going on and soon they won't be able to continue this charade. That proved it to me. I was told they can see if there was shorting or investors bailing out. They have an investigation going on. I have been buying, because I liked this investment at much higher prices and IMO I see this as a great opportunity. IMO, the share price is way overdone.
The funny thing I picked up on after the webcast was Dr Wittenberg saying "we encourage our shareholders to fully take advantage of this particular investor's news hub to stay informed and ask questions to stay fully informed."
Note: He said THIS PARTICULAR INVESTOR'S NEWS HUB. They are aware of all of I-Hub and see a need to end whatever negative spin and speculation. This was a good move, because now we can discuss with certainty the future of this technology as well as the future of this company and make rational investment decisions. Good luck to all, and no more whining....please.
This volatility will certainly light a fire under Dr Moro's bottom and he now has to close whatever deals he has been working on. I also tried the RSS feed and was bounced out. Obviously this website was created under duress.
You don't understand what you read (if you read it at all). They are aiming straight at this website. They are sick of the falsehoods and people speaking as if they have authority. It said for your information that any questions that SHAREHOLDERS have will be answered immediately in near real time via an RSS feed (cutting edge communications). You couldn't do better if you picked the phone and called. No more speculation or rumors or fearmongering that is the importance of today. You want to know if we have cash or if Abbott is still on board? or whatever concerns you have, jump on the link I provided and ask. You obviously have time to respond to me. I would appreciate you getting the proper information before you make an uninformed remark. I felt Mysscat's frustration, because she, like myself took the time to call. Now you can anonymously ask the questions you want to be answered. I called recently and they are finding out if the slide in price is from shorting or investors panicking.
Now I-hub takes on a whole new meaning. We can cut out all the negative sentiment caused by fearmongers and focus on the real truths. Gold once said Dr Moro likes to take us right to the edge and look over, but he never thought we would fall in. We did, and now it is his responsibility to got us out
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080724/0418925.html
Read it. They know that speculation is screwing up this company and now ALL questions will be answered in real time
The elevator ride will now be up no more down into the abyss. Sorry to disappoint Zolax. We win you lose. BOOYAH!!!!
I got a great press release on schwab.com
Read the press release. NO MORE SPECULATION. WE ARE NOW FREE FROM ZOLAX. I knew not sell and I feel sorry for anyone that took information from THIS website to make their investment decisions. IMO, this is an opportunity of a lifetime.
http://www.agoracom.com/ir/Biocurex
It is literally like someone playing catch with a baseball. They are just tossing it back and forth. They won't stop till the deal is done. Buy in one acct sell in the other back and forth to drive down the share price. Every shareholder was upset at the financial deal when it was made, and now he finally knows why we were upset. Just like at .60 we formed a base now we formed a base at .30. By the way if Zolax is working for Smithline you could be prosecuted. It wouldn't be too hard to find out, so if I struck a nerve I hope we never hear from you again.
IMO, we are doing another placement and Smithline is not at all happy so they are making sure that Dr Moro knows he made a deal with the devil. All of the trades are being done by the same brokers. Check it out for yourselves. IMO, I have a strong suspicion that Zolax is working with Smithline.......think about it, and it makes perfect sense. We will bounce back after the placement, but because we are so thinly traded we are at the mercy of manipulators....for now.
Zolax is here to stir the pot and to anger and frustrate longs for only two possible reasons. One, he owns shares in a competitor. Second, he has bids in to buy shares at much lower prices and is doing his best to agitate shareholders so the share price will fall. Either way, my suggestion is to block him as I did. Statistically, I was just told 50% of S&P stocks are now at 10 year lows.
Here is my 2 cents on the approval. First thing I noticed it is an ELISA test (Dr Moro's recent press release about our new ELISA test is not a coincidence). Secondly, their approval bodes very well for us. Third, it is to be used with persons ALREADY DIAGNOSED with colorectal cancer. Fourth, it is to be used in conjunction with other clinical modalities that are within the standard of care.
It would appear that Recaf will be approved under the same restrictions at first, but IMO, WE will be the standard of care.
It is not a matter of "if", but "when". I blocked Zolax, but I'm sure he is ready with a derogatory comment.
imo inverness is where the money came from. they are committed and it was an intelligent move to have the recent press release. I am sticking with my instinct to let it ride. I liked gold's analogy when he said dr moro likes to take us right to the edge and have us look into the abyss and then pull us back in. he certainly did that today. I do feel better. I don't want to feel like I am gambling.
I broke my laptop so I am on my cellphone. I want to say that I am aware of the concern but this happened imo because someone is panicking. I am concentrating on the potential and that is the key word. there are no earnings as of yet but the future looks too bright to panic.
I can't accept, but thanx. I need a breather and I'll let the anticipated news speak for me (I expect good news shortly evidenced by the volume). See you all at the finish line. Good luck.
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