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The next set of notes are not set to convert until 4/16 and 4/26. We will probably be pretty slow until then, unless a fluff, string us a long PR/Twit comes out for note holders to dump shares and add to the O/S. But around 4/16, a minimum of 100,000,000 in stocks will be traded, watch.
I totally agree. There is also no public confirmation that Redchip even sold any shares, regardless of what anyone say. Adrian clearly broke down notes that had been converted to stock and the price they represented; as well as the shares he diluted (sold to the public) and price they represented. So why would he not fully disclose RedChip information, he only gave us the number of shares issued, not the total amount they represented.
My initial point since some claimed Redchip collected the $45,000 fee, (which implied the shares were sold) was how do we know the price the stock sold for and on what day, when all we know publicly was how many shares was issued to them.
I did know there was some requirements/restrictions to sell rule 144 stock, but I went back and reread the rule to see if there was any loopholes since one person claimed that Adrian confirmed Redchip only received $45,000.
Now why would Adrian disclose that information to an individual "not affiliated with the company" and not put that the shares sold and the amount in the annual report if Redchip did indeed sale before the one year restriction.
That's also why I said things maybe clearer when the 1st quarter report is released.
So is the attached post not correct. If someone bought at .0002, someone had to sell at .0002, correct??? No one knows when Redchip sold the shares that were issued.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=128850053
I've read the annual report multiple times to get a clear understanding and it never said Redchip sold the the shares at .0001 and collected $45,000. What it said is they were issued 450,000,000 shares. What they actually sold the shares for and when they were sold are a different story. There were days that this stock traded at .0002. Redchip could have easily sold some of the shares at .0002 or like I stated before the shares could have been issued to them in two separate transactions.
A lot of this information will not be clear or made public to us until the 1st quarter report is filed and released.
That's what my first thought was, but I through those other examples out there just to play devil's advocate.
There are multiple reasons why only 450,000,000 shares were given to RedChip in 2016, per the annual report, that would equal $45,000 at the current share price of .0001.
1) It could be a partial payment and the remaining shares were issued in January 2017.
2) Maybe Adrian did not sign up for the full six months, and the fee was prorated.
3) Maybe Redchip was able to sell some of the shares at .0002 and didn't need any additional shares.
When you spoke to Adrian did he give a definite reason way only 450,000,000 shares were issued to redchip in 2016.
The former owners were mentioned. Both Mel and Darren hold Series C and Series E stock as payment owed to them by the company. They were also issued convertible notes along with some others in 2016. Based on the way those convertible notes were issued, those are the original investors of the company.
To me, it looks like they are being paid once the notes converts, instead of cashing in there stock (because the amount of shares they own won't cover what they're owed because the stock is at .0001 and their Series E is not convertible), and that is how the stock is being diluted.
It also looks like Adrian only issued about $105,100 worth of stock to the public, a little over a billion shares. The rest is coming from the conversation of notes to stock.
So since more notes were issued after 2/2016 the dilution will not stop anytime soon
It now makes sense when Adrian said the creditors are the ones keeping the company going and making shares available to the public.
At least we know who the real ones on the board were, regardless where they stood about DNAX. Tomorrow will be very interesting after DNA Brands annual report was released on Friday. LOL
You two are late to the party. The annual report is already out and stickied. Surprisingly no one has nothing, or very little to say, which says a lot.
Well, if production does indeed start, I'm sure it will go up a tick maybe two. The question is how many people will buy at .0002 or .0003 in order for us to get out with a profit. Profit or not, as soon as this thing does pop a couple of ticks and stay there for a few days, is our best chance of getting out. I'm not trying to be greedy and hang on thinking it will go higher.
Like I said before, this company has never been profitable even when they had a good year in 2010 and 2011, because of salaries and overhead.
People tried to paint Janon Costley as the Scam Artist, but now it's looking like Adrian Mckenzie maybe the Scam Artist. Now I'm wondering who really ended the "joint-venture", if they are indeed no longer working together.
We know there's no revenue, I'm looking at debt being reduced, convertible notes issued or outstanding, cash on hand (with all the dilution), salaries paid, and company ownership % (if it's more than 10% names are listed, and if less then 10% the percentages are still there.
That's why I'm more interested in the annual report, then the quarterly report. Hopefully it's detailed, sometimes they are, sometimes they're not.
All we can hope for is that this thing will go up a couple of ticks in order to get out.
I don't know why anyone would still be promoting this stock, unless they have know choice. Regardless if a production run is done and they are put in multiple stores in Florida, there is know way this company will turn a profit. DNA was in hundreds of stores until 2014 and still could not be profitable with all eight flavors in production and selling the meat snacks.
No one is buying at .0003, but if the 4th quarter report is released soon and it looks good, we may get out of the triple zeros.
Good Luck Everyone
Yes, this company may have spent a lot of money on R & D to get the product developed, but if you look at the older SEC filings, it's obvious they were getting financing than taking more money out of the company for salaries then the company made. Did Mel and Darren use some of there own money to start DNA, probably, but you can't take more money out the business than it is generating. Also Adrian stated that the company was generating revenue of 2 million dollars a year up until 2014. That's not true, because the 10k I posted showed the sales for 2012 and 2013. Sales was not even close to a million, even with the meat products included from 2012.
Either some stores wasn't setting them out on a regular basis or they were pulled. I'm not a daily convenient store shopper, so if it's not in the case or on the shelf, I just grab something else and go.
Thanks, I first took notice of this stock and company in 2013, and agree that it had all the right components to be a huge success. When the drinks actually came to Texas, I was very impressed, but of course they didn't last very long. I don't know what all happened with that, but it wasn't all because of the Fowler debacle. What I can remember they were pulled before that. I do hope Adrian is serious about turning this company around and the relaunch, but right now I have my doubts. This is a good product, but of course not all good products make it and a lot fail because of management.
What, did you do for DNA? I like hearing from people who have a little more knowledge. It don't mean my thoughts and opinions will change, because what a company did 2+ years ago don't necessarily mean they will go in that same direction. If we are to believe Adrian is here to make the company better than where was was, changes do have to happen, otherwise it will be the same failed company.
Have there been any update on the 54 billion shares that are being retired.
There all in cahoots together. They are trying to avoid something or scam somewhere. I don't know if it's on the business side, because Mel and company has a lot of company debit, per the previous SEC filings, or if it's just a stock scam. Maybe both. Even though Adrian is in charge on paper, and is now the public face of DNA Brands, I'm willing to bet, Mel and company are still pulling the strings in the back.
That was good, and a link to back it up. LOL
I would assume Mel prepared the report because it was the 4th quarter report for 2015 and the annual report for 2015. Adrian was not with the company at all then, so he wouldn't have known what happen for the year of 2015 since he didn't start until 2/2016. It will be interesting to see the 2016 annual report, because I've noticed they are sometimes more detailed then the quarterly reports, as far as the breakdown of those other series preferred stocks and who owns them and everyone who has a percentage of ownership of the company.
The stock is still being diluted. VNDM is also used for dilution and they are showing first.
That's why I don't understand why some is so determined to believe Adrian will have product out by April. I have my opinions just like everyone else, but when I say I don't see the April relaunch happening, it's not because I don't think Adrian will do a relaunch. What I'm saying is that the timeline don't add up when you factor in the time it takes to order supplies, and actually making the product.
The Adrian D and Adrian M does don't appear to be his. I also agree the every company listed is not his. The way I connected him to at least 3 beyond a shadow of a doubt is by the address when you click on each one, his actual linkedin page that has DNA Brands listed, and the e-mail he sent me.
Also, someone else posted a link that had DNA Brands included on the list with the other companies that was also connected by address. I can't find that list right now and can't remember if there are more or less names on either list.
The one that starts with trufit and the ones below trufit is not his. I also attached some other links where others have done there research, as well as, the e-mail he sent me confirming his takeover of a failed business. If you click on the names of each business, you can verify the addreses.
http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResults?InquiryType=OfficerRegisteredAgentName&inquiryDirectionType=PreviousList&searchNameOrder=MCKENZIEADRIANNEM%20P030000889170&SearchTerm=Mckenzie%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Adia&entityId=P03000088917&listNameOrder=MCKENZIEADRIANNEM%20P030000889170
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=112421941
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=126723829
I'm not talking about buying a couple of shares of stock here and there, which can also be sold. I'm talking about being a real investor in his businesses, in other words help with the financing to get it relaunched or started. They could always get their money back once it takes off, right. I'll tell you why all of these followers, groups, and connections aren't supporting Adrian and his businesses that way, because he is full of crap.
And I'm not just talking about DNA Brands. Adrian has a whole list of failed businesses that no one has ever heard of, that no one is supporting either.
And the thing is, if he felt that way about his budget, why even get involved in this type of business. The beverage industry in general takes a lot of time, money, and advertising to become a success. It has always made me wonder what was his real motive for getting involved with a company who haven't had any revenue in two years and mounds of debit, when by his own admission he don't have funding for a relaunch. At one point he said he took this on as a project. A project to benefit who?
People can promote this stock all they won't, but unless this company has long term funding in place, and I'm not talking about selling stock, it will die right after the 1st or 2nd product run. Anyone who don't know that, don't know basic business.
That's another thing if Adrian have all of these groups, followers, and connections, why don't anyone have enough confidence in him to invest in his businesses. Do they know he's full of crap?
Obviously when Adrian first got involved with DNA Brands, relaunching was not a top priority, otherwise he would have started raising money from the very beginning. Not certain what the real angle was, but relaunching was not it.
I think adding the term specialist now is a way to make him sound and look more professional. Maybe the consultant told him to use that term. Someone is grooming him because on the current video, he does sound more professional then he did on the very first conference call, even though we know it's bull crap. He told me he was the janitor of the penny stocks. Why not call himself a takeover/cleanup specialist from the very beginning? See the link to my first post.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=126723829
Anytime I here hear the term specialist at the end of anything,I take it with a grain of salt. All it is puffing of a job title. Ex. Customer Service Specialist, but they don't always provide the best service to customers.
That's just the standard response, I've seen those several times. No Confirmation, No Denial. However, Ball manufactured the coffee drink cans for DNA, because they were milk based and required special coating. The regular DNA Energy drink cans were manufactured by Crown. Also, Cott Co Packed the drinks. All of this is in the below attachment for the year ending 2013.
Who knows if Adrian is keeping everything the same, hopefully we will know soon.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=9922321
Those coffee drink cans were produced by Ball they had to have special coating because it was milk based. The regular energy drink cans were produced by Crown, and the actual product was co packed by Cott. This was all back in 2013, so everything could be different now. Here is the attached that list all that info, it's pretty far down.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=9922321
Of course you don't know, so why be so certain that a 30 pallet run will happen on the first run.
Anyone that have ever been on the actual manufacturing side knows that a test run is always done first. This is for the company to inspect everything, from product taste/quality to the packaging/canning/bottling before releasing it to the public for sale. When Adrian is talking about production run, this is another subtle way to mislead the public to expect this large or "huge", LOL, product run that will be taken to stores for sell.
Whatever is produced in April is more than likely for inspection and sampling purposes. Yes, some will be taking around to various stores and distributors. Once an order is actually placed with a store or distributor, then and only then can we expect the bigger orders.
Remember when he said he was going to redchip to start production with them. When most people hear that, you would assume production of the product. That's not what he meant, and he new it, but that was a subtle way to mislead the public with out actually lying.
There are way too many high hopes for this company right out the gate. Even with a production run the sales will not be that high if this product will only be sold local for now. With all eight flavors in production and selling in multiple states, the company generated revenue of about 249k in 2012 and 156k in 2013, these number are before expenses. We will be lucky to get half of 2013 revenue if the relaunch do indeed happen, but when you factor in overhead expenses to get this back in production, there won't be a profit for quite sometime.
There is a difference between a shipping pallet and multiple pallets a store place together for a display. A shipping pallet can only be stacked so high other wise they won't fit in the delivery truck, LOL WOW. There's also safety regulations regarding transport. If someone has 25 years experience in the industry, you would think they would know these types of things.