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Hope he has the answer! otherwise telling people not to be concerned loses something.
"Irrational hand wringing, fantasied fears and contrived problems do not pass muster for legitimate reality based concerns."
As longs we have all lost around 40% of our earnings with this stock! How can you make that statement?! Many on this board, last year predicted where we would be at this point. Let me remind you, the figure was not the in $17s!...But that ok...Now being concerned where we are at, with all the good news that has transpired around Ariad (since december), should not be "legitimate reality based concern"?!...Is it me?
"There would be no market if the pps ALWAYS, EXACTLY reflected the underlying value.
If you have a persistent belly-ache, that's cause for concern because there are
numerous theories as to why that could be a significant sign. Each of those theories
can be examined.
What is the (implied) theory behind all your (and calluch's) "worries". The objective
fact about Ariad are public, often discussed (by investors and medical specialists).
You hint (implicitly) at dark forces at work! We're a few hundred years into the
enlightnment! Let's leave alchemy and witchcraft back in the 14th century!"
Sorry to say that losing money with continued good news, concerns me. Did you foresee the down turn coming back in october? Can you now see the up swing on the horizon? is that why your not concerned? Please forgive me, Im only human. can't see the future...again, losing money, a little concerning to us common folk.
"continue to enjoy the continuous positive
news flow,"
last year company stock could do no wrong. this year (please read above) company stock can do no right?
"Try to extract any information from the above!!! Just try it. There's none!
All we know is that the pps is way below what the objective indicators should support.
We also know that we have an approved drug, it's selling well, it has numerous new
indications in the works, we have 113, ..., ad nauseam. In other words we have a
stock that does not reflect the underlying value of the company."
UH, yeah.. thats why we are concerned.
So true. People grasping at straws trying to justify why ariad stock has been sh##ing the bed as of late. Market sees a negative in ariad right now. Why? Who knows? What concerns me is the fact that big investors see the positives that we see on this board and still no upward optimism. Also the paper work has been filled with 1st quarter #s. Not a secret to big players, and yet no positive movements. Somewhat concerning.
Science and future outlook with the company can be promising. But as of now there seems to be continuing negativity surrounding this stock. No optimism from the market. Even dndn stock value climbed from optimism.
...oh hum...
Lol...whatever...
Bingo!....besides even with positive news we usually go down
Sorry, but at this point for me, the only buying opportunities i want aria to have are for the extremely wealthy. In other words, much to high priced for us middleclass folk...
"good buying opportunity under 18"....again?
I keep hearing of all these catalysts ahead for us...can we just have one now?!
Lol, whatever you say.
I guess most of us should be grateful that as longs, we bought in long before this pig hit $25. Feel bad for those who showed up and bought their first shares @ this price last year, and has held since. It's been frustrating for longs who have been in it for multiple years, imagine the newbies? Been a real tease of a stock to own lately.
most of us here are already considered "longs", such as your self. And hoping you are correct with your assessment of "a once in a life investment", I can't help to be a little curious. if you dont mind my asking, how much longer would you be willing to go, before you see the fruition of your investment realized?
The suspects held up a convenient store around the block from ariad
For me, the positive news out weighs the negativity thats been spread around recently by a good amount. Yet, its funny how we dont ascend in the same fashion as we descend. Since when are facts not better fiction?
it seems to me that this company has developed a type of drug (soon to be drugs) that are proving to be the real deal when combating deadly diseases. i'm not so sure as to why the price is where its at, when this company is clearly showing what the future of medicine looks like.
if thats the case then patience is a virtue...Depending on your age that is.
Also, keep in mind that with all you just stated about dndn, their stock price still hit over $54! imagine the potential high for ponatinib (iclusig) alone, once all the end points are met!
news update, on ponatinib inhibitor of RET and FGFR!
although your intensions may be good and all, i sure hope dew, or anyone else for that matter, ever spends one cent, based on what a stranger tells them to do...talk about playing a messiah...sheesh!
ah yes, the allure of money, and what one might say and do in order to obtain it.
I honestly think with the last few weeks of slander towards ariad, he probably got caught up with personal emotions to make a comment like that. He is after all the ceo and not an i-hub board member.
as an investor that he is, why would he have a negative view to a company that is moving forward in demonstrating the ability to help rid cancer? why not go after scam companies with nothing to show for their existence except false promises? he must feel invincible, or is really a dirty player in getting what he really wants (cheaper shares).
#1 rule when money is involved...trust no one.
read my post# 28545
Its all right. a reminder that when it comes to money, no one can be trusted. Remember no one on this board has the power to influence any one on making a drastic decision. only food for thought.
can you say manipulation?
this conference call does not sound like good news. price has fallen way to much for a reason (maybe an inside reason?).
However, the fact that just a few months back, ariad announced it was expanding its facilities and its employees for demand of present and future launches. That hasn't changed, right? the company is still moving forward as a fully integrated and operating oncology firm, correct?
in any case, sure Hope the "harv" doesn't show true colors, like the so many ceo's before him, and set us up for a reaming.
And those are words to make you think of the other angles when making financial decisions. Thanks to posters as bth. The hell with boom boom b.s.! Look where boom boom has gotten us! Sorry, at the moment, the longs are being laughed at. even by berger. Grow the eff up
Anyone can pump the stock up and say we're all going to be rich soon! But to those that do, sorry not all on this board are 10 years old. Gonna need a little more than pumping
Right on bth! Facts are what this board needs, not paid pumpers!
Question, whats and whens the end? Maestro
And its going down today because?...
"Wondering(as I always have) why we didn't see more consideration of these draconian downside possibilities in the past."
really?...any one of us could be pumping the stock relentlessly, without any graph knowledge...and probably be more accurate! LOL!
quoting from brando, apocalypse now
if we do test lows again tomorrow and stay down it will be unprecedented with ariad at 9 straight days. Oh the horror...the horror...
if that were true (but most likely not) then what he is doing will actually help you and other longs out when this drop halts and reverses upward from buying pressures.