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robbindabank, Thank you for observing their silence from a different point of view, and I see your point, it is better to keep silence than to say things in vane for the sake of keeping your stockholders entertained with trivial information, thank you again.
Thank you for your response, it is exasperating not know what is going on with the other cases and having to wait for the google case to unravel.
For VRNG to be more transparent with their shareholders, not only regarding the google case but all other suites that have been brought by VRNG against infringing comapnies.
JJSeabrook, Maybe they are going to take the weekend to carefully go over Google's Answer and present their side on Monday, at the same time give some slack to HJJ to consider handing down the R/R and settle the W/A issue so we can begin a good week ahead. JJ, I have a question, what percent if any is necessary to bring in legal representation on behave of the stockholders?
JJSeabrook, I agree with you, strike while the iron is HOT!!!!,Most important, do not beat around the bush, be straight and to the point. Tell, HHJ exactly where and how he screwed up with the other Work AROUND.
Red Angus, thank you. I am going to hang on with you till the end of the trial, whenever!!!!GLTA, VRNG will prevail.
Beth4, from your lips to God's ears. I am with you 100%, this is also my retirement next year, God willing. I believe in the company and what they have designed for it, all we have to do is believe that all their efforts are working and it will take a little longer. GLTA
postyle, thank you very much!!!
Please, can someone post today's pacer, working late just got home. thank you
bluecheaps4me, thank you for your post, never entered my mind. Is there any way of finding out if in fact the Google boys have their hand in this short situation. We really need for VRNG management to have a look and bring it out if in fact they are involved. At the same time we would like to hear some news of the development that is taking place in Israel, also fresh news in the ZTE front, thank you again for bringing this into discussion.
arper, thank you for correcting me, wish it would be Injunction, not Sanctions.
JJSeabrook, regarding Sanctions I read somewhere that Sanctions are only considered when the patent in question is being used by the patent owner in an every day use. I believe that is what I read, then again it may be that a Magistrate may allow the Sanction when the entity in question is abusing the system.
JJSeabrook, after trying to read and understand Doc. #278 I see why my father was correct, before marrying your wife find a good attorney and marry him first. My apologies to HJJ, for doubting his legal conduct while presiding this case. I would not like to be in his shoes, much less trying to bring this case to a conclusion. May God, not Goog, guide him and bring this case to a speedy end.
JJSea, this is a vivid example of a disadvantage in the patent investment. We do not know what is in the sealed documents, had they been in the open, the pps may have gone up or down just only on individual speculation of the investor, with them sealed we have to wait for the Judge whomever he may have been to make a decision.
Thank you for your guidance and support throughout this holly grail, thank you again.
JJS, thank you for putting to rest a worried mind. You are quite correct, HJJ, has probably covered himself by being thorough in the handling of the case and making sure his legacy will go on to help other judges follow his format. I for one will not be in a patent investment from here on out as a long investment, had I played this one!!! of course 20/20 hind sight, would have made a nice profit. Now I am holding quite a few thousands in the low 4's, needless to say I am holding on for something above that.
Red Angus, JJS,and other legal minds, investors are interested in finding out what is going on with HJJ, there should be an inquiry about how this case has been handled. Perhaps the judge in Florida who put Google in its place could help by bringing to light the unfairness in the part of Google and HJJ handling this casd. As investors of VRNG we have a right to protect our investments, we have to be careful in the sense backlash from the pulpit. I am not an attorney, but how can we find out how this has been handled.?
Perhaps VRNG P.R. will make an announcement this morning regarding the Work-Around non-posting issue.
JJS, what happens if Google does not reply to the Work Around?
Alphi, just curious, whom do you perceive has been playing hard ball, VRNG or GOOGLE?, who has been dragging his feet, VRNG, GOOGLE or HJJ?, has GOOGLE has infringed on VRNG'S patents?, my take is that HJJ has given to much time and delayed making key decision in this case.
JJS, and others that agree HJJ has moved slower than molasses in winter time regarding the Work Around issue. HJJ, has given GOOGLE all this extra time to keep working on their work around. HJJ, has not been fair to VRNG, why? that is the answer that at least I would like to KNOW.
JJ, thank you.
JJ, when do we hear from VRNG, the numbers Google has reported today?
JJ, good morning, does it mean although GOOGLE has appealed, they have to pay VRNG, interest not only since they established the case against GOOG, but that they owe since inception of the infringement of the patents, which are the LACHES, no?, in other words we may be able to recuperate the laches according to how I read this. That would be wonderful, when are they supposed to pay? thank you for the posting, especially since the order is signed by the HJJ. I think this is why our memorandum is being delayed? GLTA,
Red Angus, JJ, good morning, again reaching out to you guys. How do you see the legal aspects going forward? thank you for your comments. GLTA
Raggoz, 10-4, they do not what they will be missing...
IBH, I AM WITH YOU 1,000%, THOSE THAT JUST BAILED OUT, WILL MISS OUT AT THE END. I AM HANGING ON TO MY SHARES UNTIL IT HITS A DECENT RETURN, AND IT IS NOT IN THE 5'S OR 6'S, THIS WILL GO UP TO 9 OR 11 IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE WHICH IS AS SOON AS HJJ GIVES HIS RULING OF 7% OF 20.9% OF GOOGLE SALES OF THE AMERICAN MARKET. GO VRNG GO!!!!!!
Red Angus, JJ, & others from the legal side, do you think the appellate court is going to allow GOOGle, to revise their brief?
Tobinator and others from the accounting side, where do you see the pps going after VRNG's wins in Court?
To all, thank you in advance, being 70, and seeing how deep we are in debt have taken this "Gamble" to find a peaceful place to retire. For all of us in the position I am in hope it all turns out our way. GLTA
JJ, thank you, case closed!!!
JJ, No one really knows the reason for HJJ's delay in ruling the R/R in this case, I wonder if he will ever mention the reason for him not ruling in a timely manner? One thing for sure, it is not fair for shareholders have to wait this long for his ruling. Is there anything we can do as shareholders?
"Red Angus", good morning, may I join you ruminating over your post. I agree with you, it is about time for HJJ to stop delaying the ultimate result abd tender his ruling. I though the work around was not part of this trial. GOOG would have to begin a new case to prove separately to the court their work around actually works to stop paying for the R/R HJJ imposes GOOG whenever he issues his ruling. VRNG would have to prove that the work around still infringe by using their patent and we would start this merry go round again.
Red Angus, thank you, hope is eternal, but in this case we need divine intervention. We are in HJJ hands, patience and more patience. Have a great day and thank you again for your update. I for one will wait until HJJ rules and make some decision on how high the bounce.
Red Angus, JJ, and other legal minds, can VRNG introduce patent infringement willfulness during the appeals or is the opportunity gone for ever?
postyle, secureit, gentlemen, I do not want to be the cause of disagreement between you guys. I am trying to gather as much information to keep myself informed. I got myself into this investment not knowing this was a litigation over patents and here I am caught in the turmoil of court rooms, attorneys and judges hoping that the pps goes up more than $3.98 and hoping to make a profit, as much as it may bring, I am hanging on since August of last year, good luck to all of us.
postyle, thank you for your information, by the way, secureit, mentioned that HHJ does not have to rule if he wishes to do so and if the CACF rules in favor of GOOG, all that has been accomplished goes dow the drain. That is a hell of a note.
secureit, thank you so much for the information, it must be what the initials stand for. The fact that HJJ does not have to rule on the R/R really is grave for all of us. Let's hope that he will rule sometime soon.
secureit, forgive my lack of knowledge, what does CAFC initial stand for, thank you for your response.
postyle, he has you and me brother, in his hands, he has the little bitty baby, in his hands, he has the whole world in his hands. I better start to pray and soon for a ruling, along with the main ingredient "PATIENCE"
postyle, thank you for your information regarding Monday's happenings and the rest of great information regarding the case, meaning that all of the hoopla that we hear about Monday has nothing to do with the R/R ruling that we are still waiting. Thank you so much. Going back to HHJ and the R/R ruling, can he delay it until they have a ruling on the patent itself?
MIKE2005, correct me if I am wrong, what begins on Monday is for the appeals court to decide if there is a validity on the request from both VRGN and GOOG, to go ahead with their appeals, but then again what appeals? can you help some of us that do not understand, Thank you for your help.
hoggydog, I had no knowledge that some of the VRINGO shareholders had been able to reach HJJ, well, more so to find out from the law department, Red Angus, JJ, and other attorneys that I may not know.
How long can HJJ keep up this delay? this will help to dissipate some of the anxiety that all of us have. Thank you to all the in the Law Depratment from all of us VRINGO shareholders.