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Doesn't me they are trying to get back to the district court when she denies one of there motion that has not been previously addressed by the FDIC because they are time barred with any other appeal.
The Judge will rule she has no jurisdiction as it is the exclusive jurisdiction of the FDIC then they will appeal saying that the claims have never been addressed by the FDIC and that they believe under these claims the BK court does in fact have jurisdiction; the District Court will agree that they nor the lower BK court has Jurisdiction and now they appeal to the I think third circuit like they should have back in the day when the district court ruled and this does not end this year. I happen to agree that the BK court does have Jurisdiction. However I do not agree with this back door appeal strategy and it might just get them sanctioned
I know LOL
Because I can
Time will tell and its not like we can do anything about it.
I hope your right but I can't see it because I thing that is what the LT is for...
Even if you where correct, there is nothing you can do about, it period. I don't know how many times they have to tell us before you folks believe it. I just read one post where the poster ask to respond to the email and ask if the FDIC had any safe harbor assets when they plainly said they didn't!
Oh and you can not bankrupt a trust, you can only liquidate it, and that is what the LT is for; meaning there are no hidden trust waiting for the bankruptcy to end PERIOD!!!!!
That makes it pretty clear to me we are not getting anything! The LT has said they don't anticipate having the funds to pay escrow now the FDIC states they have no safe harbor assets or enough to pay escrow.
DD, yeah if misinterpretation of the pleadings is what your calling DD then you are correct...
Here lies the problem HM, when you disagree with the status fantasy quo they take that disagreement as an attack on them rather than a disagreement of the facts presented. My take is, I do not see a path where we get anything but crumbs and even Rosen has said a number of times that there is no money for escrow.
Weeeeeeeeee 2019
That's great if you dodged the WAMU disaster...
I agree I just don't see a path to any recovery. I would sure love to be wrong.
Well have I been wrong so far NOOOOO!
I am of the opinion that we will see nothing substantial for escrow. Time will tell if I am right.
Well looks like we are waiting until March 2019 and like I have tried to tell AZ and the rest of his following NO ORDER, not yet.
In response to a handful of inquiries regarding the timing of a potential distribution to holders of LTIs, while the bankruptcy court agreed with the Trust's position regarding the expungement of claims, the bankruptcy court has not entered an order in connection therewith. Specifically, certain of the employee claimants have contested the inclusion of all claims in any order, claiming that the Trust failed to include certain claims in the applications that were submitted to the FDIC and denied and, as to which, the D.C. District Court confirmed. The bankruptcy court has requested additional submissions and the Trust does not anticipate a determination and entry of an order extinguishing claims by the bankruptcy court prior to March, 2019.
Yep NO ORDER ISSUED!!!
Thanks just call it like I see it...
I am going to state the obvious; you guys are starting to posture so that when this thing blows up and we get nothing; you can step back and go ohhh it was the crooks that took this from us. In reality if we get nothing nothing was there and all your DD was a misinterpretation of the entire case...
Yeah let us know what the response is lmao. There is no such thing as an approved order, it is either signed and filed with the clerk or it is not.
There attorney LOL
It's not done, an order is not enforceable until it is signed by a judge and filed with the clerk of the court PERIOD... These guys have some fantasy that a bench ruling is final and it is not. You can not even file a motion for the judge to reconsider his/her order until you get the filed stamped and signed order, the order has to be recorded, the misinterpretation of what is part of the record is the problem here. Some think that a court reporter transcription is enough to make a ruling binding, is not. When a Judge rules you know the order is coming so you comply, and the prevailing party a lot of times will be tasked by the judge to draw up the order consistent with his/her ruling and I have seen the judge, even in this case, mark out some of the language in an order and hand writ in the correction. But be assured the order is coming consistent with her rulings.
We had a case where the Judge signed an order our attorney placed with the motion. She later said it was by mistake and reversed her order and blamed it on her clerks that they where new lol. Motion for Summery Judgments that don't need a hearing will have attached orders consistent with the motion. If the judge agrees with the motion then the Judge signs it, if not, then most of the time there will be a hearing or if the other side response and objects then hearing, depending on the Judge.
She probably didn't write it, it was entered with the motion unsigned its common for attorneys to due that.
Nope different people
Here is a good article for you and what is the price for your bridge.
https://www.gregoryforman.com/blog/2013/10/when-does-a-judges-ruling-become-a-valid-order/
"As South Carolina Rule of Civil Procedure 58(a) notes, “A judgment is effective only when so set forth and entered in the record.” In 2006 I actually went to the South Carolina Supreme Court on that issue, which resulting in an opinion that an order wasn’t valid until it was signed by the judge and filed with the clerk’s office. Upchurch v. Upchurch, 367 S.C. 16, 624 S.E.2d 643 (2006). Yet, seven and a half years later, many of my colleagues, and even some judges, continue to believe that whatever comes out of a judge’s mouth or memo ruling is a valid court order."
Geeez, yes it is, it has to be signed by the judge and filed with the clerk of the court before it is enforceable, has to be part of the record. Record not transcripts you can have a court of record with no transcript...
No place I could see.
It's not a signed order and hence not enforceable...
At the hearing they tried to argue that they where representing them individually, not as a class action.
Yes Employee Claims. Well the bad thing about it is, if they can get her to deny something like these additional docs then they may be able to appeal that, that is why all the dancing. However, they are playing with fire.
I agree and I also think they are looking for a way to get back in-front of the district court because they can't on the denied claims because they are time barred. They dropped the ball when the district court ruled and they failed to appeal D.C. decision. I thank they are really risking sanctions if they keep this up...
Just had a chance to listen to the hearing yesterday and my take is that the Judge is getting irritated at the EC because they are continuing to try and circumvent her ruling. I knew when they wrote a letter it was going to tick her off and she warned them about it. Its over on or before the 9th Jan 2019 IMO.
Well, you are wrong but to be honest I really did not expect to receive anything after the split.
Its a souvenir
Not that I have to but here is my fractional share from TD. As usually BBANBOOBOO is wrong...
COOP MR COOPER GROUP INC 0.9167 --- 0.00 --- 14.22 14.22
Well I have .96 share almost one share after I sold the rest before the merger at around $2.40. I was talking about escrow not coop still not sure about coop.
I sold made a profit have not decided if I will buy back.
Interesting not bought but merged with Chase?
"On September 25, 2008, OTS closed WaMu and appointed FDIC as
receiver. WaMu was immediately merged with JPMorgan Chase & Co
and subsequently operated as part of JPMorgan Chase Bank, National
Association in Columbus, Ohio. At the time of closing, WaMu had total assets of $307 billion, with retail deposits of $134.7 billion. "
https://www.fdicig.gov/sites/default/files/publications/10-002EV.pdf
I think you are right, if RD is telling the truth then Rosen would have knowledge of any billions...