I agree 100%!! I feel quite sure any short position they may have had has been closed since then. So, I do not understand the restriction. All brokers have disclaimers shielding them from investor's claims of loss. Bottom line for me is,,if not short shares and if they are protected from investors poor choices why do they feel any obligation or right to limit investor access to a non-halted security. I don't know and feel quite sure they will never tell me.

Was going to call for my certificates but it may be difficult to sell when the big run comes! LOL,,2ez

To anyone interested. TDAMERITRADE still has HESG restricted from opening positions. Tried to buy 1 million this morning,,kicked it out. Don't need or want the shares,,just checking to see if restricted. They are.

Me too Wrinkles. Belize has indicated that he has spoken 'in depth' about PRd topics,,nothing inside,,maybe he will elaborate on the beefy buyout topic.

I suspect ETMM will crap as many as they need to keep us down as long as possible. But they may be watching this very closely this week. With Robert talking it up (hopefully) there is no telling what may happen in a short time!

Hey Belize,,,why don't you put all your shares up for sell at $3.87 to see if it effects L2? Who knows,,they may sell!!

I hope I am the instigator of this change in description. I sent an e-mail to TDA on the 22nd and they replied stating they would research the change. They have since deleted the bogus info however they have not updated anything. May be waiting for WDRP to supply. I do not know how that works. But I know as investors click their research buttons supplied by their brokers they need to get current info to make an informed decision.

Nardelli did what he had to, to prevent HD from being owned by the managers. The benefit package offered asst store managers and store managers huge amounts of stock at the time. The stipulation is that it had to be utilized within ten years of receipt. with the splits involved the managers could have bankrupted the company with one more advance to $50.00. Nardelli held the company back and ruined core customer base.Nardelli was the scapegoat and got well paid for his efforts. I know this sounds impossible but the numbers don't lie. This is just my opinion of course!!

Good morning Tony. Yes it has been a GOOD long wait. For a long time I have watched this stock make me money and I think it has only just begun! I sorta wish Belize had not told us August. I always opened my Christmas presents early. I have no patience. This may be the longest July on record!! Do you think we will get any news this week?

How much do you think it might back up? Are you predicting back to the 3's again? I was thinking $4.20 would be a good entry but don't let me do something stupid. Cause I can!!

I had flipped this stock between $5.00 and $5.20 last year I think. It appears time to take a long position. At these prices drys is a bargain I think and easy to take a good position without tying up a fortune.

What would be the catalyst? I see nothing to support a move to the upside. Didn't they buy a directional drilling machine? What became of that? Would love to see this go back to the $200.00 days!!

Thinkorswim shows last sell at 3:39 and you are correct. The chart has stopped moving. L2 still shows 170 million at the ask. I don't know if it has been halted or not but the chart is not moving on my screen! WHO KNOWS,,stranger things have happened to this crazy ticker. I call it a ticker cause it certainly is not a stock!! GL,,2ez

Nope! I got out at 13.60,,,Not going to look down on a profit. Had a great day. GLTY!!!

I think I may dump em and reload after lunch.

Yes it is!! My 5500 shares at 12.95 are looking real good right now! woot

Pain,,You do realize that Gavin Ovens and Robert are good friends right? You do realize Gavin could be the in house financing we need right? You do realize Gavin may have told Robert come see me when you get it finished right? You do realize Robert wishes to reaffirm the negotiations on sales agreements from earlier in the process right? You do realize the UL(r) issues may have nothing to do with the heatexchanger and all to do with safety swithes that may be produced State side right? You do realize he can go on vacation and write it off his taxes if this is a 'business' trip right? JMO,,2ez

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Seems simple enough to me!! And I will reply and get my CERT. I will then scan it and post it. It appears to be a lengthy process,,but I think we have time. This will ensure MY shares are not used by shorters!! i think,,,2ez

You just lost all credibility. Why would this endure a r/s when a PR stating "I am still here,,TG" would bring a bid back and start a run to .001!!! Or maybe a PR stating "WE will have a ticker symbol change"!! Any word from TG and this thing will fly. Problem is not shares it is comunication.

Thanks for your post. Well conceived. I have quite a few shares myself and am content with my position. I did however add 300,000 shares since Design 1st came in to the picture. I just do not believe they can be bought out so to speak by a penny stock. Their reputation is far more valuable than all the payments they have received from WDRP. I am not saying I know the total of payments but more that it doesn't matter the total,,they just can't be bought. And anyone reading the PR that stated they are looking forward to designing all of the products would speculate that they are convinced the technology is sound. I do agree there will be time to buy between 10 cent and 20 cent before it is bought out somewhere above a buck. And that is still a good 10 or 20 bagger with little risk involved. Even I will increase my holdings at that level. It just makes good sense. Bottom line for me is the same for all. Risk only what you can 'comfortably' afford to lose.

I just e-mailed Ameritrade regarding my certs. I suspect what you say will be the reply I get from them. On the other hand I pay them around $300.00 every day to execute my trades. Maybe they would like to continue being my broker and maybe they wouldn't. WE WILL SEE. I will let you know.

I truly believe the stock is worthless. I know the man behind the stock has NO VALUE at all to the investors here. But I would still like to have a certification for framing. I spent enough to deserve one!!! GLTA

Good advice!! I took it to the extreme. Traded MGM 32 times today. Feels good to make this kind of money from a recliner in my pj's.

and back UP!!

I am still in favor of the beefy buyout. So it is fine if we Rocket straight to SOLD!!

Until then I don't care if the pps stagnates. I just do not want it to go down. StinkyP would have 'saved' $100.00 had his buy gone through as planned yesterday. That is fine,,if the price went right back up. Problem is it doesn't just go right back up without someone buying at the ask. So you have to ask yourself,,,do you believe in the company and potential? If so,,what is $100.00 bucks now? Is it worth bringing us down? Doesn't 'really' matter to me,,I am confident this is the multibagger people dream of in pinkville. JMO

You got that wrong. I want it to go UP UP and AWAY!! However,,until Robert gets done with his toy and gets it boxed for sell we will trade sideways. I called a bottom at .042. It was that BEER GUY what done it!!

Hey,,it is always good to have a plan. Buying lower than I am selling is my plan.

Gotcha,,makes sense. This is all I do. Sit and watch these charts and L2's. And lose bags of money!! LOL

I don't have the bids in because it ties up my money,,but I assure you I will be buying big in the 3's. That would be a good place to tie up another 20k.

So you paid 7 cents per share for those eh? presuming a $5 commission. Tough luck there.

He got in with 4 seconds to spare. I hit buy for 200 at .05 but to late to take it. Knew it was going to happen. LOL,,all in good fun. I salute the investors coming in with a couple grand late in the session.

Is there news I haven't seen? Great lift here.

Hey Belize. Tell us something good. Can't let Beer become a profit as we slip in to the 3"s!! LOL

P.S. Who is going to paint it back up?

I got out at 13.00. Could not believe it would run this well. Made my money back and a good chunk!! Looks like time to re-load.

VGPR has access to rails and plenty of biomass from the lumber industry in and around crisp county. The ONLY thing VGPR needs is a leader with the purpose driven motivation to actually start and succeed with this plan. He can get the money,,the location,,the material,,the labor,,,,,,,THE ONLY THING MISSING IS MOLEN'S DEDICATION TO ACTUALLY PERFORM THE ROLE OF A CEO!!!!!!

I have heard such rumors as well. Don't put much faith in it myself. I think it is just some di**head at the MM desk messin with folks. Bottom line is I think we will have the last laugh here!! GLTA

I am sure I need lessons on level two. I can sorta judge the pressure but that is about it. As for the close,,They pis$ed me off. I am happy to buy WDRP but I have quite a bit already. NO real investor buys 200 shares. That is CRAP. JMO

That was my 10k at the bell. A 200 share trade!!????

I agree. Everyone is carrying debt these days,,the trick is to keep your numbers looking better than your competitor's. I think Gavin and Dave are eager enough to get their hands on this heater that their terms would be much better than dilution.

I think he and Robert are good friends. I am hoping Robert has gone to ask to borrow start up money. Gavin certainly has it.

Hope you are right but the MM's will have to take it down before close. It's what they do. They can't help it.

Wish I knew what Robert was doing right now.

Wish I knew what UL(r) was doing right now with regards to our little heater.

Wish I had a little more patience.

Has anyone checked any of the numbers on Gavin Ovens for this year. Wonder how He is doing. Maybe that will give me something to do.

Come on Beer,,we have a product. We just need a pretty box to put it in! Are you still buying or holding?

I am not sure I agree with you . I have flipped this quite a bit in the past but I think we are getting to close to success for closing this position. I am holding and buying at this point.