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I only got 500000 shares at .0016
not sure what I was thinking... I knew it was going to run... if it broke above .0015
yet I was trying to flip out quick at .0014 to .0017 and get back in at .0013 even though it took me 10 days to pick up those 6 million shares in the first place...
stock should test the .002 range tomorrow...again atleast...
I was so disgusted in my trading and... sure that this was going to run...
I put 1 million share bids in from .0016 down to .0008
and then took the day off...
6 million of those 8 million shares traded today was mine
thats my last 1000000 at .0017 I made a big mistake... trying to box the stock this time... :(
ouch they just took out my .0014 sells...
and now they are taking out my .0015 sell...
o boy
not good I think im gonna miss the run if it dosent retrace for me...
:(
most of the selling at .0014 is me... but then im bid from .0013 down to .0008
im thinking this comes back just one more time for me to load up
heheh
I think I saw the same message on this bullboard as I came and was looking you guys and your post... but the important thing is they are trying to pump this up...
GL
E-mail was from "Penny stock chaser"
title was... VRED - HUGE UPDATES ON A SHORT POSITION ON VRED - The stock should bounce 150% or more from these levels
message was....
VRED closed @ .012 on Friday. We spoke with people close to VRED on Thursday and Friday and these are the updates we got from VRED insiders.
We received the following two emails from VRED insiders on Friday.
Message #1 received on Friday by PSC on VRED from VRED insiders.
Sorry for the extended timeframe to get to the bottom of the share problem. Ian informs me that the security position reports indicated that there were 9,000,000 shares missing from the position at Legent clearing which originally held 35,000,000 shares.
Immediately this morning everyone on the company side of the deal went around to check on positions for all the shareholders at Legent. As it turns out, they have confirmed through individual position statements that all 35,000,000 shares are accounted for. This means that Legent has loaned out the shares to another firm to cover their short position. Right now we think that Rich may be the culprit but that is not confirmed.
The upshot is that we believe that a brokerage firm was selling shares that were not registered and ineligible.
Legents has apparently loaned their shares out to help cover the short position. Our clients are going to go into the market to force them to cover the position and get the deal back on track.
Message #2 received on Friday by PSC on VRED from VRED insiders
This is to follow up on the previous email. Today the company got a call from Brown Brothers where the broker was irate that the 144(i) shares were in fact not eligible. The company has in fact determined that the warrants were submitted by the client and apparently Brown Brothers cleared them without checking their eligibility. There were 27 MM shares at Brown Brothers that were ineligible and apparently one of those positions has come out.
It looks like VRED has a short in their stock. Once these shorts cover we will see a hard bounce which could take the stock back to .03.
If VRED were to bounce to ..03, our members would make 150%.
hey guys just to let you know I got a email on this stock... and this is the first time I have seen it... so looks like they are doing a blitz on ths stock...
I dont like to trade pinks myself... plus I cant buy them online without calling it in first
but it looks like you guys should get a bit of a run Monday
even if the news was from Last week
your welcome igotano...
but id caution... ive been trading stocks for 21 years now... and through out that time I have learned 1 thing...
NOTHING is guaranteed except death and taxes!!!!!
What are you guys so worried about? they just announced a private placment for 4.9 million...which means they are going to be able to do more studies... this was after hours, and after a day where the stock was trading like it was going under.. to have more buyers than sellers is even better...I would have thought with the heavy selling its was reversed
when it comes to investing or trading.... when a stock turns against you... your best 2 options is to either sell and take the loss or buy and average down
when you buy to average down you better be damn sure about that buy... I was sure because even a bankrupt stock has its deadcat bounce...
for me
I was going to flip this one out... but ill probably be buying some more if it gets near .80 or goes under and hold for the next trials before i sell
I for one would rather be invested at $1.00 on this stock as it goes for its next trials... rather than $4.00 on this last failure
Ahhh... and so the news comes out... financing at .80
no wonder there was heavy selling... they wanted to cap the stock, keep it from getting higher...
although it should test the .80 range monday morning
sooner or later stock will bounce...
i think most of the posters on this board were buying at these levels..
so we all should be happy if this runs like it should next week
its always a good thing when there is a little trading before a weekend... puts us on peoples radars... and then gives those people time to talk to there buddies...
and bring extra excitement and buying in...
plus we get some news anything semi good... and were gonna gap up for sure...
well its not that hard to fathom... the trade at .001 for 1 million shares was me like 3 or 4 trading sessions ago
after that... i put another bid at .001 once no one sold lower.. and i sat there even till today...
wanted to buy some of the .0011's but hoping that someone would sell at .001 and plus didnt really want o create the volume...
i figure if this breaks above .0015 Monday....then were testing .002 pretty quick...
there was no volume on the downside... and i picked up atleast 25% of the stock sold from .0013 down.....so i wonder... if were going to test the highs on the last run... that be nice...
well i dont know any traders who think this would not be a good trade at 80% down...
investors in at 4 bucks or higher might not be happy...
stock sure is trading like its going under tomorrow...
but then... im trading a stock that is going under and its given me a better bounce like 4 times already
i had 5000 shares of the stock when it hit 2 bucks...
sold off most of it long before it went above 15
now i only have 500 left....
cant believe how well this stock is doing....
thats right... this Company goes up 10 times it value in 7 days... but no body made money,
it bounces from a technical low of .23 back to .36 a 50% rally but no body made money...
now your trying to tell everyone how to invest
you just basically told everyone you have no clue how to invest or trade stocks.. not only did you watch one of the best stock runs of the year...
but you were soooo sure about your convictions... on how much of a scam this company was
when this stock hit 1.00 and someone wrote that the margin would be 3.50 for every one dollar they wanted to short.... you typed... you typed!!!!
instead of shorting this stock...
which fits in with the fact the only reason your probably here is because you took a loss on this stock or a some how affiliated stock way back when....
and since.. you never make mistakes, instead of blaming yourself, you blame the stock...
if im wrong...
please dont tell us you have never invested or traded...in any of these stocks... like GVBP
because to spend countless hours upon hours of typing up your essay of messages on these stocks you have never invested or traded....
is just really really sad...
like they say 'Those Who Can’t Do, Teach...
in your case... the 3:00 bell went 2 hours ago... no one is sitting at their desk....
good call, I didnt think it would make it back to .50 once hitting the .41 range...
but then this has been a good trader... and I have been caling the tops wrong since it bottomed out at the .06 range on the last big dump...
sure wishing I still had the 200,000 plus shares I got around the .06 to .08 range back then... right now...
3 cents? not sure about that... but gota love this stock... makes a run every month or 2
someone needs to tell the insiders to either tell who ever it is they got selling on them... to dump out... the stock already...
this is like watching paint dry
come on.. every other stock is moving either up or down while this one plays around on 3 million shares...
seriously who were the idiots buying this stock above .002
those people need to sell there computers, sell there desk, sell there chair, sell there investing for dummies book
go buy a nice suit..
and then go out a get a good job... one where they know WTF they are doing...
'
nice gap up... was trading it from .0008 to .0009
but dint hold onto any stock :(
Thank you very much for your prayers...
I entered into my relationship with my wife and stepson knowing he would be special needs...
so i dont look at it as a burden, but a chance to give back...to him and to others....
with the money I make from the markets...
well tell GOD im trading for a step son who has a multitude of problems, like a cleft palete and one leg shorter than the other, and only 1 finger.etc and etc but atleast his Hydrocephalus is in remission...
I also help to take care of the street kids inthis country
CMGR has been a great trader for me... as was cmlt...didnt even relize it was until yesterday....
I have done this without a religion...
but if there is a god... I hope he knows im doing good too..
BUDDY STOP sending me messages...
dont you get it
you posted 100+ messages in less than a month... when this stock was around .03 to .04
bashing this stock, or talking about how no one should invest in it...
yet in 7 days it went from .10 to 1.18
talk about a waste of time
even at its worse when people were finding out this was a pump and dump.... it closed still higher than when you started your bash, or information campaign, or what ever you call it
LOL (L)
that right keep typing
GVBP investors really value your input
was that the news? cure for prostate Cancer? I didnt even look at the news when it came out...
the guy filled a insider trading report... not gonna say his name (just in case he gets shot)... cause you can find it on the company info here...
hopfully it comes back to to trade... and you can get atleast some money back...
maybe ill be back then...
good luck to you... I have no beef with the guy, cause I made real good money on this one...
That was me capping the stock at .0014
with the stock I bought at .0011 and .0012
but I was bid at .0011 and .0012 at the end of the day, creating the box....
I guess that makes me the market maker for CYCA
LOL
for starters im not even going to look at your Essay in response to me...
why because I have better things to do...and a new stock to trade tomorrow...
talking to a person who gets his self importance from telling people a SUB Penny is a POS....
um news flash.... BUDDDY
you spend way tooo much time talking about this POS sub penny...
hey BUDDY... where is the sky falling next...
maybe if you spent half your.... time calling up the SEC on the fact that this was just a pump and dump... it would have been easy for them to call the other Company for verification... or shown them the News Releases that were recycled...
instead of wasting your time preaching to people who if they read your warning...would have been told not to listen to you
then, you could have done some good...
keep typing there BUDDY...
while you were typing... others made loads of money...
real nice life...
keep on typing BUDDY...
thanks for the entertainment...
LOL
the dude who lives in Surrey B.C who just made off with ATLEAST....$600,000.00 US of your hard earned cash for one thing...
he is the president of the company
listen buddy... have you ever worked for a public company?
I have... and I can tell you the Regulators are calling you if your financials are not on time... they are calling you when you put out a news release... or when there is a spike in volume...
and a multitude of other things...
and if they are going to be the police man... then they should be investigating before the fact...
not after the fact when they find out they have dropped the ball..
and please dont give us a standard warning, not unlike something you find attached to the bottom of 1000's of new releases everyday...
just shows us your mr chicken little and the sky is falling... and suddenly your right...
o im not worried... this will eventually bounce...
its just how long and how low it goes...
what i dont want to do is sit here until January waiting for this one to pop...
while others are running like crazy
always sucks when you come across a stock where the MM's or insiders have no clue as to do a proper run...
a run where over the course of 3 days you have runs and sell offs...allowing the stock to go straight down... means not being able to sell to more people at higher prices...
its plain to see there are no real sellers under .002 but they didnt capitalize on that...so instead of selling above .002 trading is .0012 range
even if this turns out to be just a pump and dump these guys could have done better...
many stocks will turn when they look their worst...
got say not much can make this stock... look any worse...
that day we were down 5 points on 1.4 million shares
2 days after trading 100 million shares... was just embarassing
because people would buy anything...
Understand I was not only refering to this stock but all other stocks and their exchanges you know???
okay fine.. the SEC halted these guys and they are not on a reconized "exchange" anymore...but show me the warnings you are touting...
lets face it these are sub penny stocks and we know the risk... financials are useless in all but a few because they are making no money or not even at the revenue stage... have billions of shares outstanding... where most become a printing mill etc etc etc....
but does that mean that a investor in the OTCBB deserves less protection because this is a sub penny... or to lose money because this is a sub penny??? why even let these guys trade if once they get moved down from the Nasdaq, New York Amex etc..
Understand this... I said they should halt the insiders from making any trades... force them to put out a news release stating the real facts... and then let the stock trade...
I was lucky to make money on this stock... but to be fair to the suckers who got caught... I have seen suspensions turn into deletions before a stock is ever allowed to trade again..
I have seen too many times where the insiders dump a stock it gets halted and never comes back leaving the shareholder holding the bag while the insider runs off with his money
with your kind of thinking... protect the shareholder fine...
your thinking along the lines of what a regulator would do in the SEC
then they should reverse the trades... id be glad to return the money I made on this stock because of fraud... and its the right thing to do
in the end...
I say let it trade
id be glad to buy some stock once it comes out... even if I know the company is a fraud... because bottom line is I will have the REAL news.... somthing that... the.... and ONLY the bag holders were not be privy too on the run and DUMP...
because im a speculator and a REAL trader... and can make money on a stock going up.... or going DOWN
time for some guys to show up at the presidents house in Surrey.... LOL j/k
but seriously I was involved with the stockmarket and promotion in Vancouver back in the day...
and people like brokers, promoters etc. etc
went missing or got shot on less blatant stuff than this
(if it really was a pump and dump)
they couldnt even bring out a shell company and put the news through them?
well this time I didnt hold anything... was lucky to make a profit on my last trade out..
This is what gets me... the insiders/ principles of a Company
will do somthing illegal... like insider trades either to make profits or keep from losing money, make fake news release etc etc...
the exchange comes in and halts the stock...
and the people left holding the bag not only get victimized by the Company... but then the exchange itself
what they should do... is halt the insiders from trading stock
put out the real deal news... then let people trade on that...
I understand there thinking.. they want to protect the new shareholders...
but for one the regulators dropped the ball... and instead of halting the stock they should have been on this the first place...
and really who are they protecting... if they put out news that there was no relationship... AND someone is still willing to buy after the news
because like I said the only ones who didnt have the real news were the shareholders who bought the stock on the fake news... cause the insiders new what the real news was and the future shareholders will...know what the real news was too...
probably too much hype and no substance on the last run...
MM's/insiders gonna need to step in soon...
cause it looks like its going under .001 sometime in the near future... test the support levels there.... and that could mean months and months of waiting for this one to come back...
nite .0012
vfin .0011
doms .0006
auto .0005
vndm .0001
.0014 nite
.002 vfin
.002 doms
.002 auto
.0034 arca
.0058 vndm
lets play smart... if the MM's are really trying to keep this stock capped or shaking out the tree...
then no need to fight it...im gonna keep buying...but stay on the bid... and put my stock up on the offer as well
when they decide to run this... we will know...
seriously dude... you need stop putting out old news with the new news its confusing... and if this is all old news and you just changed the dates....
your pumping...
thats gonna piss people off..
believe it or not pissed off people will sell at a loss... and through critical support levels.. do more damage that what your trying to achieve...
especially in a mom and pop stock like this one where it trades like 4 or 5 million shares for a day
no wonder why i didnt get filled at .0012 I only got 500000 shares... and was bid all day
news should help the stock run a bit...
or atleast firm up the bottom
good lord death by 1000 small time investors!!!!!
okay... now it makes me wonder who the idiots were that were buying this stock at .003 range
man, if you dont have the money to buy or are too scared to buy....underneath when thestock is down 66% then you shouldnt have bought in the first place..
and really have no business investing in anything market related...