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If true about the xylitol you may be right. However defunct or not there could still be some serious issues related to this that could extend beyond the corporate veil if someone where to pursue it.
Should the company have continued to market the product while knowing the ingredients were not as stated on the label and continued to advertise the missing ingredient as being a unique property of the product for the obvious purpose of increased sales ??? that could be a real problem for them. Especially while touting it being healthier than the competition due to that ingredient.
That is a fraudulent act plain and simple. It's beyond the scope of corporate protection in any state.
This my prove interesting if true ? Spoke with a long time investor over the weekend who informed me that he had spoken with someone in the know who claims that the Revolution beverage no longer contains xylitol and has not in fact used this sugar substitute for some time.
Allegedly xylitol was dropped as a cost saving measure when the bottling was moved to the Chicago facility. If this has any merit at all it could have some serious ramifications.
Xylitol touted in announcements, xylitol listed on the bottles label, xylitol promoted for its unique health properties.
Anyone have any information on this ?
Can't say it is fact but perhaps it may be something for the investors or consumers to explore. Or perhaps the F.D.A.?
GORUDY - I must compliment you on your efforts and information provided. This information and the effort that went into obtaining it may prove to be the straw that finally broke the camels back and at minimum give a degree of satisfaction to all who lost money.
Hope everyone reading that particular post of yours informs others of its existence and that they inturn follow the procedures given.
Job well done !
Just thought I'd check before heading to the airport.
BADRUDY.COM E-mail # 11. Like a monitor lizard after biting its prey. Just a matter of time if you stay on the trail.
This truly is history in the making. My associates are loving it and yet we don't own a share.
Fun to watch.
In reading, reviewing and researching numerous posts from a number of investors and having made contact with one in particular it appears there is substantive information to prove a fraud.
1) It was posted that RUDNs 10-k falsely claims that Global Beverage Solutions received compensation for RUDNs outstanding debt when they have not.
2) Numerous announcements are inherently false ( research them )
3) Attempt to find FAIRPLAY INTERNATIONAL with their advancement of capital. Think your attorney will be tickled when he finds who they really are, and where they are now. Quite a paperchase.
4) Have your attorney read BADRUDY.COM and then look at sec filings and the names they contain.
There are four posters who have clarity on these issues. Find them, address them. Fish in a barrel.....
OUCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who knew ? Just maybe DeCesares, Lindberg, Onoforio, Lankford, and,and,and,and all the others who assisted in bringing you to this point.
Not saying there is a connection, who knows ?????
PAN AMERICAN CAPITAL GROUP per Rudn 10-k filing (10/14/08) holds nearly 17 million shares or 7.62%.
They are " NOT A NASD LICENSED BROKER "....
They " WILL NOT PROVIDE ITS SERVICES TO US PERSONS OR RESIDENTS ".
INTERESTING wouldn't you say ? does anything here connect to anything there ? Who knows? just rather interesting at minimum.
BADRUDY.COM
VERY INTERESTING!
Take note of RUDNs 10-k of 10/14/08.
Now, take note that PAN AMERICAN CAPITAL GROUP holds nearly 17 million shares or 7.62%
Notice their disclaimer " NOT A NASD LICENSED BROKER "
Add to that - " WILL NOT PROVIDE ITS SERVICES TO US PERSONS OR RESIDENTS "
Raises some interesting questions does it not ????
BADRUDY.COM
This is VERY INTERESTING !!!
Take note of the 10-k filed 10/14/08.
NOTICE that Pan American Capital Group holds nearly 17 million shares or 7.62%.
NOTICE their disclaimer " NOT A LICENSED NASD BROKER ".
now to go along with that.......
PACG " Will NOT provide its services to US persons or residents ".
Raises some interesting questions I would think ?
BADRUDY.COM......................................
thoughts anyone ?
As was insinuated on another board in a similar context. They indeed " got their shit together " as they have in the past and are at present attempting to do in the near future. Need justification for that remark ? Check your wallets, and then check theirs.
I might suggest you check FAIRPLAY INTERNATIONALs wallets also but nobody can seem to find them. Maybe Russo from SOS bought up that note too after doing so well with buying up the 6 million R/P note for 800k ???
Love to continue but have to wash some covers. Lot'sa of laundering to do.
Perhaps he will start to care when his speaking engagement requests dwindle. Or perhaps when he has to worry about who will be in the audience to ask embarrassing questions about his beverage marketing attempts and associations.
But then again the above just may prove to be moot.
Too bad some enterprising group couldn't buy out both Rudy and healthsports and merge the two seeing there appears to be a Tulsa connection. Then transform the Tulsa boys, their residuals and a few select others into fertilizer and bring in some real business talent and start building again from the ground up on their ashes.
True, better chance of having peace in the middle-east by New Years day but a nice fantasy anyways.
Rudy doesn't run the company. Others run the company and they run Rudy. Always have, always will.
Here, perhaps I can save you some time ?
GLOBAL BEVERAGE SOLUTIONS
7633 E. 63rd. Place ***** suite 220 *****
Tulsa, OK.
HEALTHSPORT INC.
7633 E. 63rd. Place ***** suite 220 *****
Tulsa, OK.
Sure the phone numbers are different. Wonder how many phone numbers come back to that suite ? Take a guess............?
Damn computers with their easy access, damn public filings, damn informational sites, damn sore losers !!!
Poor guys in Tulsa just inacting a little redistribution of
wealth their own special way and here they have to put up with this crap........ what a bummer !
NEW INFO. LISTED ON BADRUDY.COM HOME PAGE !!!!
Suggest you review. Company to company, some new acts but the same old cast doing the same old play as it seems. Change the name but the scripts the same......
Addition to BADRUDY.Com home page. Suggest you review.
Saw this posted on a Yahoo message board. Very interesting.
Review the home page of BADRUDY.COM, a nice addition was added that provides a common road to follow from company to company and who was/is involved in those companies.
To the webmaster, job well done.
You want a moderator ??? go to badrudy.com.
bol to all, see you in January. Back to work until then.
They are amateurs compared to those who orchastrated the origional GBVS, RBI debacle. Read the history of Mark Lindberg, Steve DeCesares, Josh Lankford. Look at some of the present cast. Research their business involvements past and present. Even look at the lawyers who have been involved in helping this along. This should be a merger made in hell with Satans blessings. Good luck to all.
One shouldn't hold their breath on that but it's a good possibility I imagine that he'll be hiding there. If not him then a good portion of his (your) money I suspect.
" look at what they are going into " is correct. A poster from the Yahoo board mentioned that he had owned shares when the company ( Marshall Holdings ) was GATEWAY. Suggest you look at what happened to the investors of Gateway.
One would think if the effort to go forward is sincere then you would partner up with a stellar company that doesn't possess a sordid past. Look at the parallels so far. Does this paint a questionable picture ?
Sued, sued for what ??? expression of an opinion or suspicion does not provide a basis of fact to justify a lawsuit.
Do you have an E-mail you wish to make available ?
You can't be serious.
It now appears that access to the Yahoo RUDN message board is now no longer available. Although this was anticipated to happen in the near future I have to wonder is it just coincidence that it occured on the same day that a poster announced information stating that the latest 10-Q for RUDN contained blatantly false statements concerning the settlement of debt with Global Beverage Solutions ?
Perhaps it is, perhaps not ? This matter should be addressed by the proper authorities. It appears that many papertrails (or lack of) should be looked into.
Perhaps with the short time I have left to allocate to this board I may be able to help a little more.
This deals with a current matter and a frequent poster I have monitored for some time on Yahoo.
This particular poster made his E-mail available to another poster at one time and an associate took note. With the current events I sent this individual and E-mail and he was gracious enough to exchange some interesting information.
It seems he called the office of Scott & Scott this morning and spoke with Ann as directed. He relates she is actually not to familiar with the situation and when informed of what was posted said there must be some kind of miscommunication and contacting her at this time is pointless.
The yahoo poster did say he sent an E-mail to Mr. Jenkins but to late after sending realized this individual may be a poster he had many conflicts with who went under the name JJ something on the Yahoo board. He described him as a pumper without merit and with self-serving needs etc. This individual was also from Florida and accordingly seemed to have company connections somewhere. He feels that if he is correct in this connection then he doesn't expect a return E-mail or phone call but advises to use caution until this POSSIBLE conflict is cleared up and stresses this is not an absolute but a possible and does not want to unjustly shed a bad light on an innocent party. He also relates he should be able to verify one way or another and will either join this board to clarify or request that I or one of my associates do so for him.
Tentative times, tread with caution.
Perhaps you should review a post that appeared just a short time ago on the Yahoo Rudn board. A regular poster there just revealed some damning information if true. This may assist you in your efforts.
If I may I'd like to suggest you post the existence of your website on the Yahoo board also. Perhaps even the Yahoo GBVS board from where it all began. PPKI,GBVS,RBI,RP,Runu,Rudn .
He lied about much more than you know it appears. People should really take a close look at the Fairplay transaction and the volume to follow it. Check the dates, sales and who sold and you might get a better picture.
In my humble opinion your post has some validity concerning negative activities initiated by investors. I.E. " public rallying, newspaper ads etc. ". All allegations should be pursued through the PROPER LEGAL CHANNELS in attempting to advance your cause. Also, because there is " what a reasonable person " could consider to be a fraudulent act being advanced by a PARTICULAR company then only that entity should be addressed until such time that it can be reasonably shown that another entity is attached in the continuation of that fraudulant act. Although past performance of Marshall may be questionable and a continuing conspiracy may appear to be evident you have yet to establish a proveable " result " that connects the act. Suspicion ? yes, Reasonable Cause, not yet as it pertains to Marshall, IMHO.
If anyone cares ? I would suggest you rally your troops first before obtaining legal services. Billing will be in the range of $ 250.OO per hour. Attorneys tend to salivate over these types of cases so do what you can do in information gathering before hand. Also I would establish your SEC contact rep. ASAP. Let the SEC be your advocate as far as they can and seek their advice in your advancement.
I also believe that everyone who wished to include themselves in any action should individually undertake their own information gathering investigation and then collectively compare notes with other members for both clarity and fact finding purposes. Historical events are easily obtained through announcements from inception and clarity perhaps enhanced by reviewing posts from both the old RAGING BULL GBVS board and YAHOO SITE. There as previously stated appears to be a wealth of valid historical information, to include posts by past company employees, that may help your cause. Coordination of effort is key to efficiency.
Due to my being on vacation this week and next I will attempt to inject any information I've discovered in my initial review of the company and circumstances. After that I will be abroad for business purposes for a bit and suspect to busy to monitor. Hope your cause progresses smoothly.
As here there are many angry investors I've monitored on the Yahoo board. Also as here there are a number of seasoned investors who possess a superior knowledge uncommon to the typical investor. My advice would be to attempt to bring together investors who wish to pursue legal venues from both boards and create an off-board forum and from there pool their efforts and information and select a plan of action. This could include obtaining counsel, joint bombarding of complaints to the S.E.C. etc. A moderator should be appointed and a secure system of further communication set up knowing that the forum will be monitored diligently by company officials. All letters, e-mails, recollection regarding content of phone conversations with company employees or their agents by any and all invesors should be recorded and written in deposition form. it would be suggested then that a SEC contact representative for the group be selected to obtain and disseminate any pertinent information to the members ( this is after the initial bombardment of complaint letters ). A competent attorney should then be obtained and any and all information gathered turned over to him which should diminish billable hours due to research. From there let the chosen attorney take the necessary action and appoint one or two members to be the attorneys contact person. Have your I's dotted and T's crossed infomationally before the initial meeting with the attorney. Have individual dollar/share amounts for members collected (to include dates ) and any information as suggested above. BOL
You are we believe correct and feel that if enough complainants make " some noise " the SEC and beyond may just initiate the proper actions to substantiate a full investigation.
To Reality and all interested parties. I have not posted in many months but have monitored this and other boards for an extended period. This I have done for the benefit of a small private investment group who initially considered this company a possible sound investment depending on certin criteria comming to pass. This has and will not in our opinion ever happen.
In monitoring this and other boards and researching provided information (after reasonable confirmation) it appears as though a long and deciplined scheme to defraud has been purpotrated by an unsavory list of knowledgeable but deceptive characters. This new direction of the company comes as no surprise nor has a host of other " shuck and jive " manuvers that you may have observed but not recognized.
There appears to be some very informed and dedicated investors with sound historical knowledge posting on other like boards that have supplied distressing information for an extended time now. Also, in review there are posters who appear to have been past employees of the origional company who have made claims ( we consider valid after inquiry ) that paint a very unfavorable picture of the present company, many of its staff and many many of its past dealings to date.
Unsubstantiated and/or embelished claims of progress are obvious to those who make proper, as we refer to it, D/D/D
DEEP Due/Dil.
It is suggested that anyone who chooses to continue to " follow the dream " take a good look at the cast of characters who have had involvement in this beverage endeavor (past and present), do a historical profile of developement and retractment and then question what is reasonable reality in your findings.
We wish every honorable investor the best of luck and wish circumstances would have made it favorable for us to be included in this group. We also hope that those who have suffered financial loss will make every reasonable effort to have this company and its officers taken to task and held accountable for its actions by the proper authorities.
BOL
" IN FOR A MOVE ", I believe your right, maybe a double in the short term. After that I would be hesitant. A fair portion off the table so to speak. Again and as always BOL.
If we played bounces I would roll the dice as you are about to, however we as an investment group long ago and by majority vote decided not to engage in that type of trading. Just our house rules, nothing more. Again BOL.
Might be a good play, might not ! short term I think you may have an advantage playing it up and down. BOL either way.
Most probably isn't. There's a POSSIBILITY of a thread concerning former lawyers and Santa Monica ( which is another possible story ) but it is rather weak. Really nothing at all to suggest (we believe) that RUNU had any connections with Mazur and his past dealings. Best we can guess at this point is that ACUF was just chosen out of many possibilities as being the most advantageous transition vehicle for RUNU and only the latest ACUF officers (post Mazur) were in the equation. Again, a possible thread concerning these past attorneys but it may just be a geographical coincidence, or maybe not ? Many ghosts in this vicinity there are. Which are residents, which are not ? The question of the day.
Where there's smoke there may be fire, or maybe just someone smoking ! Sometimes you can tell by the smell.
And I believe you would have made out well, quite well in the long run. Sorry to say I do believe that.
I assure you there is no animosity for I do not own this stock nor have I owned GBVS or ACUP. I have however followed the companies developement since its inception in 2005 while a portfolio co. of PPKI hence to be GBVS. I have done this since another member of my aged investment group informed me of what was being proposed. As a group we never invest in the pennies, EVER !!! and this has been no exception. However from the start the potential looked very sweet and so we monitor, over three years now. For us to invest the company will need to clear many hurdles and establish itself. This has yet been done and based on past occurances we are skeptical that it will be. But we will monitor. However there is one issue of which I am confident. Among you there are Trojan Horses, seeds, plants etc.. That is painfully obvious. I appreciate your context however I say back to you, do YOUR D&D to include industry. Animosity NO. An offer of caution yes. A parting word - do not trust posters you don't really know. Already they are here attempting to establish their unsuspecting lemmings. Easily spotted when your real D&D is done. BOL Always.
Just by an alleged newbee post like yours I'd bet there will be an upturn today. Are you another of the " Buffalo Boys ". Not that the geographical label is accurate mind you, I have my doubts. Ah! first days of spring and already the seeds are sprouting.