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I respectfully disagree. I think that if the stock were promoted, the PPS would go higher then the acquistion price per share.
If the stock was in play, the higher the PPS. Regardless, if someone came in and offered a cash per share buyout.
Usually penny stocks trade much higher than their market cap.
IMHO
You would think he'd want to but, I believe management is not concerned with the pps now!
They're more concerned with the overall value of the two patents and a possible acquisition.
Which in turn will result in a lot higher share price! So it's a great time to accumulate at these low prices.
IMHO
The "weed" stock obviously has a lot of promontional support behind it. We could only wish VPLM would bring awareness to the investment community. But be patient maybe this period is the calm before the storm.
Henery8th....listen, I was playning with you..,You are comparing two different types of companies, one with nice revenue and one that's more speculation without revenue. Yet that is. Unless they are sold. Then they'll be a lot more in revenue. IMHO
Henery8th....are you smoking any of their profits? They do have about 20 million a year in revenue? Now with the recent election there is some hype in the stock. IMHO
They're market cap with 500 million outstanding shares should make it only a $ .04 stock. Trading a lot higher. Just imagine what VPLM's pps would be?
Clueless. Any thoughts on when the new symbol will be out and tradable?
ScammersRevealed....Please explain how they completely wiped out everyone. The stocks trading post split of $ .021 vs. .007, or there abouts.
Is there something I am missing? Do you know how much is in the float after this merger? What's the free trading amount. Do you know Kenactiv's revenue for '12 and what they may do in 2013?
This wasn't exactly a reverse then dilute the heck of the company. As far as I anticipate.
Or maybe I am wrong. But, when they open trading again with new symbol, and then not dilute like what usually happens with reverse splits, I wouldn't be surprised to see the stock price increase.
More information is needed on the share structure and their plans for their shareholders.
Billy and Alan are getting paid for their proprietary information, brand name, as well as keeping them from starting up another company with the same product line.
But, you keep blowing your horn as the PPS has tripled since the announcement.
Dontnosheet......the landscape has changed drastically, wouldn't you agree? Recent patent approval and a second one pending , that to mention, they're in acquisition talks, pal!! What is it that you don't understand?
You looking at tremendous opportunity. Hope you're not shorting this short.
Well, I fully believe this is a tremendous opportunity but, there are a few concerns.
First more transparency would be nice.
After discussing this opportunity with someone with a lot of experience in the penny stock business. His major concern was why would a company with two major patent pending and inaddition to acquisition talks, dilute their stock towards the end of last year, from 306 million to now 349 million as of 12/31/12? Not to mention the lack of response to the recent approval.
Just some concerned thoughts.
I'll be patient but, realistic.
Pin High...lol. I guess that's just my point....why haven't you or everyone been buying at these prices?
I just think that there is a piece of puzzle missing, that's all.
Although, I love this opportunity with VPLM...
I believe that there is more to it than meets the eye. You know what they say, "If it sounds too good to be true, then it usually is"...Well, you will probably not find anyone on this board that would love to see the PPS appreciate to the evaluation of the what an acquisition of $ 100 million to 350 million, would bring more than me. I can assure you of that. But, I am realizing that the calculations for our value will not return that.
I am not sure exactly what it is but, there is something that has hindered the run in this stock. To see it go from $ .007 to $ .035 and then drop more than 50%, after all this great news, (acquisition talks & patent aprroval)is strange to say the least.......We should be on a steady run to $ .07-.08 by now.
Now, with the recent, infamous patent approval, it rebounded a little but, of course not as much as everyone had anticipated. I am sure everyone would agree with me, correct? Volume is extremely low and the PPS is flat. Now, with that said, if you don't agree with me, then why isn't everyone cashing in all their other stocks and buying up the shares at these low prices? I have asked myself that exact question.....
Just some thoughts.
You would think.
Confused myself why there seems to be no interest.
Very odd, we should be over .05 by now.
Dontnosheet.....Do you have any proof since the laststated amount of 349 million?
IMILOA....your obviously new to this game.
IF OPHI had any business worthy Asher wouldn't have been selling. Management didn't surport their own company. PERIOD. They choose this so-called toxic financing.
They had inactuate (BS) PR's and gave a ton of shares to a company that was to implement an IAP (300,000 e-mails) to good quality investors looking for organic, etc., companies like OPHI. This was to bring awareness for OPHI, for over a six month peiod.
AND, you know what I was told by management?......, "You know what they say, you shouldn't invest money you can't afford to lose"!!
Your P/E raito caluulations don't exactly apply here. This is a BB stock, we're not on the NYSE. I had seen a number of penny stock with $100 market caps, WITH NO FREAKING REVENUE. If there ARE little shares in the float, the PPS will increae. 't What is it that you just don't seem to understand?
IF I am not mistaken, didn't you disagree with me when I anticipated a Reverse? lol
OPHI IS OVER AND DONE WITH.
If float is low and no dilution PPS more than likely increases!
Your calculation comparison and treating like another NYSE company wouldn't apply here. At least in the next few weeks. ESPECIALLY IF THEY DO NOT DILUTE!
Asher was not the reason OPHI went from $ .19 to $ .007. Just an excuse! If their PR and IAP were implemented there would have been better results in the PPS!
But it's wasted breathe right now isn't it. Lol
IMHO
Imiola....I was in another stock last year that
had 94 million o/s and NO REVENUE and it was as high as $ 1.24, before they started to dilute (now at 180 million). (DROP)
I'm just guessing but are the possibilities if Kenactiv has $ 15 million in revenue +?
Just a thought!
Imiloa ...valuations like that really aren't the same with penny stocks!! I know what your saying but I'm not evaluating the PPS value like that.
If there aren't enough shares in the free trading market then the PPS can easily pop due to demand. And if the majority of the float isn't selling, then the PPS goes up!
Be patient and you may just be surprised!
IMHO
The ONLY issue that could keep the PPS from
increasing .....is dilution! I know I am like a broken record but I have seen way, way too
Pennies subside due to issuing more shares! It's the only cloud that can take the sunshine out of this stock!
I would love to get a new years updated outstanding share count. The PPS didn't drop in the past few weeks from $ .035. to $ .013 last week due to selling. I highly dought it although I madeby wrong!
If they keep it at 349 million, this baby can run big!!
Microsoft paid $ 8.4 BILLION for Skype! That's with a B.
$100-350 million shouldn't be out if the possibilities of the value of VPLM.
IMHO
Imiloa...you have to wait for the share structure and how much the float and restricted shares exist! I wouldn't imagine all those shares are free trading now.
Although not accurate, If I'm not mistaken Dunn & Bradstreet, Thomas Directory, or other manufacturing directories usually can give estimated company revenue, number of employees, etc. , on private companies . They must have real good established sales with a building of that size.
There's a light at the end of the tunnel, just don't know if it's a train or not! Lol
It does say last trade. $ 1.10 lol
Well, now what is the price per share ScammerRevealed and what revenue does Kenactiv bring to the table? With 160,000 square foot building, they must have millions of dollars in sale/revenue, etc.
Let's hear the whole story AND not just the cliff notes. There's more to it then being wiped out. Reverse splits, if done correctly, can workout fine. BUT, AND I WILL SAY BUT, if there is a tight share structure in place and revenue, etc.
What's the float? How many more shares can be issued in the future. Hopfefully, they will explain all this in the near future. But, assuming this company has good solid revenue and is not loaded with debt, the old OPHI shareholders maybe be fine.
IMHO
I will say this, these guys are a lot smarter then I thought. I hope the PPS keeps inching up and up to $ .10 before the second patent is finally approved.
I am guessing but $ 100 millions is not much for this technology. It can be REAL SCARY, how high this can fly.
And I hope they make the decision for me, if you know what I mean. I'd just hate to sell before the second patent approval and/or any acquistion takes place.
Hopefully, one day will all wake up and a deal has been completed.
IMHO
hometownJoe...be patient. Let's just see how it plays out. We do need some assurance. How they'll dilute, if at all, etc. We to at least find out what this new company's revenue is. This will give us some insite on things.
Last price traded was $ .51 so, it seems like if the O/S and or the float is tight, then there might just be a chance of a good squeeze in the PPS. Stanger things have happened. IMHO
Last trade...$ .51 lol
WOW can you only imagine if they promoted this and held the share structure.
Nabbbss, let's just see how it plays out. We need more transparency on the share structure. If they hold the float low, there might be a strong chance for a nice squeeze in the share price. As of now, when I last check it was $ .33 on Bid and Ask was $ 1.00
They need to be shareholder friendly and market what their plans are to show what the older OPHI shareholders value might be.
If this company has good solid revenue, then there might not be any further need for funding. THus, further dilution would not be neccessary. You would think.
...I know there are directories, public that post "ballpark" revenue for private companies. I am just not sure which ones. I know Thomas Directory or State Business directories give number of employees, estimated revenue, etc. It just would be nice to know how big this company is.
Does anyone have any information on Kenactiv? Revenue, number of employees', etc.
Norpikefisher.....with the low outstanding shares prior to the reverse, there maybe a light at the end of the tunnel. Just don't know if it's a train or not. lol
Leaving around 2 million outstanding after the reverse, if they were smart and hEld this for several months, we will see the PPS increase a bit.
Just odd how a company would let their PPS fall from $ .19 to .007...0033, and not support their own company with private funds. Doesn't make sence. Asher's funding didn't seem like a lot. Certainly, not enough to let the PPS tank as low as it went.
There is more to it, IMHO
SLICRI50...Great then can you please verify, as I am just referred to pinksheets.com as of 12/31/12. What is it to date?
Thanks
"If you lose your breath, you may lose your chance to get in on the ground floor"!
There are plenty of smart people that don't work for Microsoft or for someone else. From what I have been told Dennis Chang has already built a 100 million company in the past. If true, who's to say he can't do it again?
Remember my quote!
Be patient and you may just be rewarded!
I maybe wrong but, the recent drop in PPS, the week or so, may have been more dilution. Because why in the world would anyone be selling with all the recent news?
IMHO
Henery8th, IMHO, dilution can really be the only reason. They went from 306 million, in the latter part of '12 to 349 million at years end.
Not confirmed but, from experience,further dilution this is usually what happens after great news and a pop in the PPS.
Dilution will be the only reason that will hold back the PPS from increasing. IMHO .....but, then again what do I know.
It's a tingling feeling you get all over your body when you finally realize your invested in a company that is about to make you a whole lot of money, if your just patient and willing to wait for their patent approvals and possibly an acquisition!!
When the Chill comes off, the reality of having more money, sets in. lol IMHO
OPHID...Bid: $ .16....Ask: $ 1.00...
It may not be over, yet?? lol
Maybe if they're smart, they'll hold shares tight (under 2 million) and let the PPS run up to a few dollars before any further dilution! Just a thought.
No, I know what it is. They're so back logged on ordes for the Grow Stacker that revenue is coming in, therefore, no need for further dilution!! lol
IMHO
There's a chill in the air today, temperature is in the low fifty's down here in Florida! lol
NEWS, NEWS, NEWS........!!!!!
"IS NOT OUT YET?" "What, are you kidding me"?
For all those that responded back to me when you were forewarned,
"I TOLD YOU SO!" "Where the sun, don't shine"!!!
Issuing a reverse spilt is one thing, BUT without a press release to possibly cushion the blow, is another!
Possibly stating no further dilution thus, squeezing the PPS up. Possibly opening at $ .35 instead of what, $ .165. Just inexperience marketing management! Lack of transparency!
There maybe a method to their madness but for starters, with no PR, it's not a good start. But, I will pray that they may have something up their sleeves. Because with less than 2 million shares and no dilution, there is a slight chance we'll see a rebound in PPS.
They have the resources to save our investment, it's just a matter of their personal values!! Basically, it is what it comes down to! IMHO
Good luck and good bye!
"I TOLD YOU SO"!!!! Lol
Well let's see how that state this!!
This would leave just under 2 million outstanding! If they hold dilution we will see a pop in the pps
But they have to USE THEIR HEADS FOR ONCE.
You can't say I didn't foreseee this if capital is needed!
Where are you reading this?
SUNSPOTTER...Who said there weren't any talks?
Well,you are a skeptic! So, you shouldn't be involved or even interested in VPLM. THE PATENTS ARE OBVIOUSLY REAL! You apparently missed the boat on the low end of the PPS.
I am taking an educated guess that the PR was to reassure the shareholders there is value in their investment.
First of all....Why was my post deleted? There was more substance then most of the posts.
Obviously, it's not a rumor if the company announced there were talks.
Someone stated names should of been mentioned But, companies that are involved, wouldn't appreciate their names being announced. Would you if you were interested? No, you wouldn't.
It was a great press release. The patents are real, it just takes time. It clearly shows that there is value in their patents. Wouldn't you if you were a shareholder want the momenteum to build up in the PPS, then just a surprise pop one morning that they have been aquired. I wouldn't and I am sure most would agree.
This is going to fly. IMHO