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Disturbing to see so many shares trading....all so much on sell side
More coffee...
I agree with the thrust of what you wrote but dont think there is a failed application, only the company sharing the PROGRESS of financial repositioning and the why. I think they are developing those relationships all the while strengthening ther position
I do real estate here in CT....referring any this way happy to help (and likewise back to you!) :)
I read that a little differently,
I read this means they are in touch with actual end distributers with specific thresholds. This is not abstract but actual.
My guess is that the steps are moving and in progress, and not years but months and maybe sooner.
And we should follow shortly ... VATE also expressed the goal to list on higher exchanges
Agreed
It will be good to get real market reviews and feedback as well as first sales.... sometime something like this can take off fast
I could not find the hazel nut or vanilla flavors available on Amazon
Where did you buy them ???
Your reactions sound pretty extreme - maybe you have an allergy to Hemp - but very likely not the product. No secret chemicals ... just organic coffee blend...and ground roast Hemp seed.
I eat Hemp seed products on salads and other - you can now see in major stores .
So maybe Hemp doesn't agree with you but not 'bad' product like a toxic skin care item.
Just coffee n Hemp ( and vanilla it hazel nut - again natural products )
I love it and drink each day - I don't like flavored coffees - but this has a light nutty flavor - delicious and healthy too!
Question I have is where are all the sell shares coming from
I picked up some - but stringing so many shares coming out w div coming
There's a lot of hurdles to get shelf space in the major stores - and for good placement and visibility.
Hope they have team members / contacts familiar with the challenges and costs/deals - if so this can scale up quickly
Great if they can keep moving at the pace they have and get sone real reviews and publicity..
The new acquisition seemed like we picked up a great marketing brand person - once the dividend is done and financials out think we will see lots of news
interesting on aluminum....
i dont drink cans either, but more from taste....still think the old Coke bottles were the best (but dont drink soda any more)
As a note on that front - the markets on their competitor Monster products are HUGE, hard for me to fathom as not what I drink so lots of upside there as well if all goes well.
It would be good to get a sense from company when ready on the specialty coffee market scale.
A 2012 figure from Specialty Coffee Association
The retail value of the U.S. coffee market is estimated at $30-32 billion dollars, with specialty comprising
approximately a 37% volume share but nearly 50% value share.
and in 2015
The retail value of the U.S. coffee market is estimated to be $48 billion dollars with specialty comprising approximately 55% value share.
Can Elev8 penetrate and secure a lasting footprint in this segment? We shall see but clearly the market is there - and if successful the ability to catch on and grw exponentially is UuGE :)
Well the fed hike , and next 2, will start a rebalancing ... market overheated and once the ACA, debt limit, inflation, pick up and a budget mess out of control we will see some upcoming shocks.... imho
But way below the waves tiny fast growing companies are a good place to be.... especially domestic food products ... easy to measure
With this and kg both.... if consumers like the product it will sell...easy to see, if it can be branded to last , not a fad., range of diversity in consumer and product them huge returns
Off to good start - hoping consumers love it and come for more
SS pr?
Not sure what the abbreviation means...but sure all good.
Of course I was happier at .14 then at .035 but it is essential to see where this came from > .004 only 6 mo ago.
Really they have been executing at a fast clip. The market will sort itself out - but i hope i they keep focus on the earlier goal of getting on a stronger exchange. If they and keep the float tight and keep executing this will bring in new visibility and $.
If we get a Whole Foods or Trader Joe's account...and/or get into the West Coast we will see this really move forward many times over.
It's just coffee!! There is roast Hemp in lots of products these days.
There is no unhealthy additive - Judy organic coffee and ground Hemp seed.
So it is what it is.... a local ground coffee like a hazel nut or other.
I suspect other factors ... maybe just a reaction to snow.... I am having that as I shovel today ( live in north east!)
Feel better!
Agree....keep in mind the company only hit the ground last fall....
we now have
Brand
Updated web
2 OS reductions with commitment for more
Acquisition of new lifestyle company
Launch of product and first vendor(s)
Expansion of product line
Eye on larger consumers (cafes, wholesale distribution, bulk)
Commitment to quality
Share price from .004 to .04 (with ranges of course)
Not bad for a new company - hats off!!
I think we may also be seeing some results from the dividend...
once this settles (on both sides) the focus will go back to values based on each companies plans and potentials...
right now it is unclear what the impact will be on shares, float and stakeholders..
really enjoying my coffee!
The real message is the plan to enter large markets.... and if successful can drive the value many times higher
New brands ... refining and polishing all existing... market and art and message... create a lifestyle brand... lots to see unfold... but off to great start
Tough to see shares down so far , hope the volume is insider and float control by friendlies... if so then huge moves ahead !
Got my first coffee from Vate
Really good...a full round flavor with a slight nutty character. A great first step, and hope they keep their attention and commitment to 'best of' with all products.
I can see this come out with a dark roast and a decaffeinated roast. Maybe even a tea?
We also hear of waters working which has a wide range among other products.
The company has committed to continuing OS share reduction....however my guess is the float has grown.
But lets say we go from 3.6mm...even to 10mm we are still very tight as much will be taken in and held (IMHO).
I agree with others that this level is a huge opportunity looking out 6mo - 1 yr.
Some don't take micro sub pennies , especially w/o sign offs....I hold in both Schwab and fidelity
VATE coffee / water and more coming soon stand on their own. The friendly connections w KGKG mgt are a plus.
VATE announced more OS share reductions - float likely will grow above 3.4mm.
All good
In October this was sub pennies - normal consolidation...
More news coming!!!
The way I approach any investment is looking at the underlying product, the share structure ( how investors participate ), the potential , the means ( the mechanics of executing) , resources ( $ and HR) and price.
I think the vate $ is gravy. I don't focus on this - it was a sale and represents a VATE value 1/10 of .03/.06 ish.
But the real focus is this company's future apart from any one off- and it looks good.
This stands alone at .03-.05 if it
> gets national /distribution /awareness
> sponsorship / celeb endorsements
> launches new products with actual products of scale
Long KGKG and VATE
yes - a different situation...
they also offer a wide range of other beverages and built off a portfolio of Hanson's products -
Based in Corona, California, Monster Beverage Corporation is a marketer and distributor of energy drinks and alternative
beverages. The Company markets and distributes Monster Energy® brand energy drinks, Monster Energy Extra Strength
Nitrous Technology® brand energy drinks, Java Monster® brand non-carbonated coffee + energy drinks, X-Presso Monster®
brand non-carbonated espresso energy drinks, M-3™ superconcentrated energy drinks, Monster Rehab™ non -carbonated
rehydration energy drinks, Worx Energy® shots, and Peace Tea® iced teas, as well as Hansen's® natural sodas, apple juice
and juice blends, multi-vitamin juices, Junior Juice® beverages, Blue Sky® beverages, Hubert's® Lemonades, Vidration®
vitamin enhanced waters, and PRE® Probiotic drinks.
But lets say we get nationwide with 2-4 products - then 1- we have value for supply and distribution chain for all other products and 2- we then reach a sustained income base and 3- may attract the interest of a larger beverage company, and much more stock visibility.
A cap of 15-20mm (up from 3-4mm now) - TOTALLY reasonable - brings a share value of .04-.06. This could happen quickly on the basis of a significant sponsorship deal for visibility or large regional distributor in the west coast, Fla, and north east.
Like to see Kona at the new coffee cafe outlet Vate has in Chicago too!
For perspective....
Monster beverage latest earnings
2016 Fourth Quarter
Net sales for the 2016 fourth quarter increased 16.8 percent to $753.8 million, from $645.4 million in the same period last
year. Gross sales for the 2016 fourth quarter increased 14.2 percent to $848.8 million, from $743.2 million in the same
period last year.
I note to draw attention - this is ONE quarter.
Once Kona reaches a critical threshold of awareness and distribution it will start to compare in valuation to real competitors.....
Products being sold
Products getting positive reviews
Distribution expanding
Mgt committed
and
the dividend ( I came to this via VATE which i also hold)
Quite an interesting situation
I was of course referring to VATE.... but where VATE goes ... so does KGKG
One pulls the other up
Of course it will have restrictions ... my guess is it will be a time date ... likely a year...
The other point not discussed is from the beginning mgt committed to moving to higher exchanges.... if we sustain cap above 25 mm and share above .05 and reasonable volume we will also be movin' on up!
They are committed to multiple products... get coffee out and work out kinks, get feedback ... use same supply chain to drive waters...
I have started to see Hemp Hearts, seed turn up in major stores...the quality health turns this into a 'super food'.... this is going main steam
Have an order in via amazon....
For one ... this is the VATE board... the one paying the shares.... so your point is irrelevant here.
But by extension you say that the shares in this company are worthless... your choice.... but I like what I see !!!
The issues posed are not ominous or suggestive that the dividend is anything other than what is reported at face value - payment for VATE becoming an independent company
This was noted in August in LOI, and following when terms settled in October. Follow up input from company confirmed this was in the works.
Not a surprise on any level.
That every detail is not in the release suggests nothing at all. The detail will follow or certainly be available from IR.
The value gap is due in large part to KGKG being very undervalued for a company IN business and GROWING with REAL product on shelves.
Yes the PS may have many companies with scams, but these two are not in that category.
This company has done everything it has stated to date.
The release states also lowering the OS, which it has done twice to date.
The dividend was noted it august when deal was an LOI, and then when closed in October.
The values will adjust , likely KGKG reflecting its new asset.
I think the DD will be available to all who ask prior to effective date. My guess is shares will carry some time restrictions,
But all transparent and in line with earlier releases.
New KGKG holder and member of the mm+ club .... large vate holder ... great way to build shares is via KGKG and VATE each pushes the other forward
This is really a unique situation with two companies , familiar and synergistic with shared and independent goals
Agree...
The OS includes restricted, insider and my understanding is the dividend comes from this and currently is shown in the OS totals.
Mgt also claims to reduce the OS as well....so rather than any increased we will see a reduction.
The dividend may have some time restrictions, and also goes to knowledgeable friendly KGKG investors who know that both companies are growing fast.
I suspect more news coming from both sides
Got a private message....sorry i am not subscribed....
Looking for much higher here...great support. I sold some on the run to .14 but looking for even better for my holdings.
Some old holders may not see the future...i am a believer!
welcome aboard!
Both companies now are collaborating with great products and plans. Both Managements are transparent and serious about building real value.
My guess is they have thought through the value scenarios based on upcoming developments and plans and this will be a win win for both
And yet without fanfare or hype support has picked up the slack....buyers need sellers...
my guess is we will see more shares in the float over time, as restricted or other terms come due, but I understand dilution as a rise in the OS, and I dont think that is happening. In fact we may yet see further reductions in the OS.
we seem to have support at these levels, a very good sign. i think more news is coming and a bigger plan unfolding
Yes, a strong foundation being built here... once a few more cafes in various states... maybe CA or northwest, amazon, add on products and online sales will be off and running from here.
Accumulation time...mgt is doing everything it says and is shareholder conscious
Not many eyes here, under the radar
Looking to build biz, brands.
All good, tight float , internally held ... patience!
The company has come a looong way in a short time.
Last fall we were at .01 and lower... then current mgt took over and reduced the OS, laid groundwork for product roll out, acquired a synergistic company , including a marketing team leader.
We spiked to .15 and have settled in the .05-.08 range. A huge move and good floor for next stage.
Of course folks sell on big run ups, even in the best of opportunities.
But the party has not yet really started ... so I see lots upside.
I'll third it...
Very likely controlled use of restricted shares of some sort
And yes pulling it out shows the tight float intact
yes - the 2 mm shares represent a good part of the float and is now likely locked up..so even tighter
could make for fireworks coming up
2,250,000 share sales vs 104,000k buys...