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Hi Jet, No, I do not have them, sorry,
You can get STDesk support to help you with them if you can clearly define them. I have talked to support a few times, they answer right away and are very friendly (this was my experience several months ago, anyway)
bobjack
Hi John, here are the specs and some commentary by Gloe
Lizards - buy/cover -
yesterday's open and close must be in the top 25% of the daily range.(top 1/4th of candle)
Yesterday's low must be a 10 day trading low.
Today buy 1/8 above the yesterdays high.
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2) Lizards - short/sell -
yesterday's open and close must be in the bottom 25% of the daily range.(bottom 1/4th of candle)
yesterday's high must be a 10 day trading high.
Today sell 1/8 below the yesterday's low.
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3) A Soup Nazi buy/cover signal is a new 20 day low with at least a 4 day separation from the last swing low, that reverses to close above that last swing low. It need not leave a Lizard tail signal
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4) A Soup Nazi sell/short signal is a new 20 day high with at least a 4 day separation from the last swing high, that reverses to close below that last swing high. It need not leave a Lizard tail signal
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Posted by: gloe
In reply to: None Date:9/20/2006 8:04:41 AM
Post #of 898
Swing Trade Method -- the "sling shot" set up. Can be used on any time frame. Uses the 50 CCI to indicate the trend (50 CCI above zero line at least 5 bars = uptrend; opposite for downtrend). And the trade trigger is the 6 CCI.
When the 6 CCI hooks from either a touch or breach of the opposite 100 line (opposite from the trend) that is the alert -- the "hook" day. The trigger is that the price must trade above the high price of the "hook" day, for a long. Opposite for a short. If the 6 CCI makes a flatish bar, you have the option of treating that bar or the next hook bar as the alert.
With this method, you are buying dips in an uptrend, shorting rallies in a downtrend.
Works in any time frame. I know someone who uses this to daytrade RUT futures off a 3 min chart.
Here are the last 3 triggers on the IWM/RUT. Short, long, long. (The late July hook from the +100 did not trigger as the next day IWM did not trade below the low price of the hook day.) The 50 CCI on my chart is the bright green line.
I missed marking the chart with the short in mid- August, on the 6 CCI hook from above +100. 50 CCI was above the zero line by then, but had not been above it for at least 5 bars, so the "trend" was still down and the short was legitimate (and a small winner.)
chart posted here: http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13433854
The way this was explained to me, the "trigger" bar must trigger or the trade is invalid. That is, on the expected trigger day for a long, the price must trade above the high of the "hook" day. However, one might consider the trade set up still pending as long as there is no trade below the low of the "hook" day (this is all when looking for a long; opposite for short). This would mean that the trade set up would not be invalidated simply because there is a day or two or very narrow range trade.
Because this is a trend following method, it will never pick a bottom after a large sell off, nor pick a top after a big rally.
Stop would be the low of the hook day when long, and the high of the hook day when short.
Chico, Thanks, there is that ability that one acquires to read between the lines or to read body english (for lack of a better way to describe it..) You have developed it. You do not strictly follow your rules, and that is a componet that cannot be taught or described to others. I really appreciate the help and concern that others on these boards offer. Some of us just do not acquire the knack or finesse. I was not knocking NERS or Your System, Just my inability to follow them. I cannot stay focused in a string of losers and give up, maybe just before the string of winners.
bobjack
Hi Sbird, I have tried NERS on several occasions, AND, I have always picked those periods when it Did Not Work. In some respects, I am the born loser. Honestly, it is only related to the market. I am ok in other areas of life.
I have read and tried Chicos 30 min and Many Many other versions, I just ALWAYS pick the losing streak to get on board!!
Thanks for the feedback and good luck to you my friend,
bobjack
Hi John, My Hat's off to you!!
Nocona, this is to YOU also!!
I have wallowed in quagmire myself. My programming skill set is rather small. I have been dabbling in amibroker (independant developer AND I just use the trial version) and StrategyDesk from tdAmeritrade (free to customers). They both can backtest -- amibroker is great at it while SDesk is poor at it.. There seems to be different minor variation of the Jeff Cooper Rules for these. I DO NOT Own his book, so all info I get is from iHub or other places on the web.
Since I never make money, I always get into any endeavor as it takes on a normal and EXPECTED losing streak. Then I don't trust a working model and second guess it and defeat myself (miss the next set of winners). I have done that with MVP, HENCE, NEVER BUYING anything. I am semi retired and MUST go back to work tomorrow -- If I could make even a minimal amt in the market, I could skip it, but, I cannot do it so far. My time will get a lot scarcer for a few weeks, at least.
I still think there are elephant tracks in analysing the scamman R3 stuff, but it is really a handfull (timewise) to get the info and evaluate it. The way that it is presented on CME and CBOE webstes varies and some is even in PDFs. Makes it hard to automate excel to querie and log the data automatically. They have data back many years -- just painful to get it.
I am willing to carry a share of daily workload if the board can get organized to distribute the duties
Amibroker can optimise and a skilled person aka Metalfillboy could do wonders very quickly. StrategyDesk has marvelous screener and alert capabilities.
If you ever lock in a system, I can scan and update the board to take some of that load off you. StrategyDesk excels at scanning and signaling -- I remember you talking about how hard it was to deal with 90 symbols. I can deal with 500 or 1000 tickers -- NO Sweat (scanwise, that is). StrategyDesk has no optimising ability.
Here is a combined buy siggie that I was working on in SDesk
It was scanning for Slingshots, Lizards, n Soup Nazi's::
{Slingshot Buy Screen - For Buy Tomorrow If Swing Hi > Today Close } ((CCI[CCI,50,D] > 0 AND CCI[CCI,50,D,1] > 0) AND (CCI[CCI,50,D,2] > 0) AND (CCI[CCI,50,D,3] > 0) AND (CCI[CCI,50,D,4] > 0)) AND ((CCI[CCI,6,D,1] <= -100) AND (CCI[CCI,6,D] > CCI[CCI,6,D,1])) OR {Lizard Buy Screen TODAY for Buy Tomorrow 1/8th Above Todays HIGH, NOT CLOSE -- 10-D Lowest Low} (Bar[Low,D] < PriceRangeChannels[Lower,10,0,D] AND { Open n Close in Top 25% of days range} Bar[Open,D] >= (((Bar[High,D] - Bar[Low,D]) * .75) + Bar[Low,D]) AND Bar[Close,D] >= (((Bar[High,D] - Bar[Low,D]) * .75) + Bar[Low,D])) OR ({Soup NAZI Buy Screen TODAY for Buy Tomorrow 1/8th Above Todays Hi, NOT TODAYS CLOSE -- Todays Low Lower than 20-D Lowest Low } Bar[Low,D] < PriceRangeChannels[Lower,20,0,D] AND { Todays Low at least 4 days from last swing Low}
PriceRangeChannels[Lower,16,5,D] > PriceRangeChannels[Lower,4,1,D] AND
{ Todays Close Higher than Last Swing Low } Bar[Close,D] > PriceRangeChannels[Lower,20,0,D])
Hey Nocona, thanks for you feedback, that QUOTE was in Gloe's message and a long time ago. I didn't really pay much attention to it when I reposted it, BUT, that COULDA Certainly given a Wrong impression -- I Appreciate Your Honest Opinion and Glad you responded!!
NOW, I am GONNA CRY --
Jan 18 was a "Soup Nazi" bottom -- A NEW 20 Day Low, with at least 4 days separation from the LAST swing Low, that then reverses and closes back above that Low.
The Jan 18 siggie bought at NDO on Jan 22 woulda picked "THE BOTTOM" Chitterinski, I WAS ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL n MISSED IT!!!
Today (at 10:42 am) is looking like we could have a short slingshot setup.
If today closes here (71.20) or above and Monday closes lower, Mon will be the Hook day.
And if intraday price Tues is lower than Monday's low, the buy limit order placed Mon night would trigger.
bobjack
EDIT: The Slingshots and Soup Nazi referenced above ALL reference ticker XLE
John, Nope -- CCI(50) was wrong.
This is how it is used on the daily chart:
The Sling Shot - using the 50 CCI and the 6 CCI. When the 50 is above the zero line for at least 5 bars, that is the trend (up). When the CCI 6 goes to the -100 and hooks from there, that is the alert. The trigger is a trade (intra-day) above the high of the hook day (for a long setup; everything is reversed for short setup). It is a "with the trend" trade, buying dips in an uptrend and selling rallies in a downtrend.
Slingshots
Sept 7 was almost a Long setup, but didn't quite get to -100 on CCI(6).
Oct 4/5 was a legitimate setup long.
Oct 23 was a great one long.
DEC 19 was another great long setup
Jan 7 was a HOOK Day, BUT, Price never went ABOVE High of the Hook Day (Dec 7)
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FROM Nov 8 to Dec 5, the CCI(50) was below zero, and saying that the trend was down.
CCI(50) below zero for at least 5 days, and CCI(6) >= +100 is a Short Setup.
Nov 26 was a short setup hook day - Non 27 traded below the low of the hook day, and therefore was a legitimate short signal that BLEW UP on us and was one of the periodic bad siggies.
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Today (at 10:42 am) is looking like we could have a short setup.
If today closes here (71.20) or above and Monday closes lower, Mon will be the Hook day.
And if intraday price Tues is lower than Monday's low, the buy limit order placed Mon night would trigger.
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Jan 18 was a "Soup Nazi" bottom -- A NEW 20 Day Low, with at least 4 days separation from the LAST swing Low, that then reverses and closes back above that Low.
The Jan 18 siggie bought at NDO on Jan 22 woulda picked "THE BOTTOM" Chitterinski, I WAS ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL n MISSED IT!!!
bobjack
John, NO, these are primarily daily signals, although she said they worked in all time frames. She got the ideas from a fella named Jeff Copper. AND, the descriptions to them are not in her iBox any more.
You can google his name and slingshots and lizards to find more probably.
SEE Setup ----
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=XLE&p=D&yr=0&mn=5&dy=0&id=p43753308892
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Posted by: gloe
In reply to: be who wrote msg# 34680
Date:10/19/2006 3:53:42 PM
Post #34683 of 47713
This is how it is used on the daily chart: The Sling Shot - using the 50 CCI and the 6 CCI. When the 50 is above or below the zero line for at least 5 bars, that is the trend. When the CCI 6 goes to the opposite 100 and hooks from there, that is the alert. The trigger is a trade (intra-day) above the high of the hook day (for a long; opposite for short.) It is a "with the trend" trade, buying dips in an uptrend and selling rallies in a downtrend.
I am using it on my 15 min chart with the 48 CCI to help me reverse trades when the signals aren't clear, in those situations that I described as "tricky" situations. Taking a look at a 15 min 48 CCI: Let us say I am long because the CCI went from below the -100 and crossed back above the -100. But it does not cross the zero line. The basic rules say you should hold the long unless the CCI goes back below the -100. But that could cause a large loss on the position. So if I see the sling shot set up, I will take it and go back short: I see the CCI 6 go to beyond the opposite 100 line (in this case it goes to or beyond the +100) and hooks down. That is the alert bar. If the next bar price trades below the low of the alert bar, I would get out of the long and go back short.
Let me just say that I don't think Nocona agrees with this method. I have seen him hold the long in this situation, and only get back short if the CCI goes back below the -100. (opposite if was short from a break of the +100, and the CCI goes back above the +100).
I know that is probably not clear, but if you take some time to watch the charts and see how these set up, you will start to be able to recognize them.
Posted by: gloe
In reply to: FreeMarkets who wrote msg# 1486
Date:10/16/2006 7:16:01 PM
Post #1487 of 2155
Thank you for the kind words.
The lizards and sling shots work very well. Even on the 15 min chart I use for daytrading RUT futures, the sling shots are keeping me out of trouble.
They are explained in the ibox on my board. The sling shot is a "with the trend" trade only. The lizard can pick a top or bottom.
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more refs:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=14322077
Hi John, have you ever looked into slingshots and lizard buy/shorts??
gloe had them described in her iBox for a while around a year ago.
I think you probably read some posts about them.
bobjack
Bliss, ThatThere is a Heck-of-Ah set of numbers!!
+ 13, then - 40.
thanks,
bobjack
ED703VA, LOL, Honesty is Good.
bobjack
Hey Bliss, Don't the XLE 15, 30, 60 min charts look like inverted H&S patterns? Same pattern showing or developing on several others
bobjack
sammy1024, DITTO what Steve said. I know nothing about futures,
bobjack
Free, READ my edit to Post 47613.
NAH, no other service.
I have been paying attention to Chuck703VA (aka ED703VA), Bliss, Willie, Chainik, Tea, Caribb Jim, and checking on Poker too, and aire as well Jim Quince and few others whose names escape me right now. There is a wealth of good guys around these boards. NO-ONE has a HOT hand all the time, but all have them in streaks...
Jumping horses every time there is a speedbump AND not choosing to start out slow (wading/staging in) are real pitfalls.
These seem to be driven by GREED and IMPATIENCE.
I check in on decisionmoose every couple of weeks -- keep forgetting them.
Gotta get a few things together for Sunday School tomorrow,
AND, I reccomend:
http://northpoint.org/messages
for some very good streaming videos to watch. These may make the average person a much better person, and not just an average person...
Goodnite John Boy,
bobjack
Hi Steve, see my post to Freemarkets here.
I had my doubts about you, and was tempted to razz you.
I shoulda paid more attention and trusted your mojo.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=26136572
bobjack
Hi Free, You and I just picked a very bad time to get on board with mvp. Had we started a month or two sooner, we'd not be stinging now. I did the same thing when I got onboard with TMG.
It is no different than a person buying a new house 2 yrs ago, Except that WE should be even in a while. The poor guy who bought a new house a couple of years ago may be 5 to 10 years getting back to even....
I didn't follow the mid day switch to short and back long -- that may have made me about even -- I thought Steve was panicking and trying to second guess his own program. I almost sent him a message saying so, just to yank his chain. He appears to have been RIGHT ON. He did deviate from his normal trade routine, BUT, he was correct so far.
bobjack
Bliss, I got in on the XBTBR calls near end of day at about where you got in earlier -- thanks and have a Great Weekend..
bobjack
Thanks Foot, I'll try to find a copy of them.
Sometimes I find those sort of things very reasonable at www.cbd.com -- discount Christian Books.
Have a GOOD weekend,
bobjack
Hi Be, you might to put a post-it (cheat sheet) on your monitor that keeps ya straight.
Buy Calls = Long QQQQ
Sell Puts = Long QQQQ
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Sell Calls = Short QQQQ
Buy Puts = Short QQQQ
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bobjack
Okay Bliss, are ya messin with us, did ya buy calls or puts?
XBTNR is a put,
bobjack
ED, Hope the Dentist fixes ya right up.
A toothache can be right up there with a bad back painwise, but is usually much easier to fix.
Thank goodness for the marvels of modern medicine,
bobjack
Foot, AMEN, Well Said!!!
bobjack
Very, Very Nice
Saw you note to late to follow you -- was up to .5 already - coulda, shoulda, but didn't wanna chase worse that you had already.
Congrats,
bobjack
ED703VA -- Can You Give Us An Educated Guess For End of Day,
THANKS,
bobjack
Pretty Good LOL
BT & wccawa - Thanks for the replies guys!
bobjack
Hi wccawa, In your opinion, IS there any reason why Zone Alarm FREE should be requiring upgrades 3 to 4 times a year, OTHER THAN, making a person go thru the popups and advertising crap to coerce one into buying the commercial product???
thanks,
bobjack
Dan, I hadn't even noticed that one. It is a little ugly, BUT, nonetheless it is a H&S and thanks for pointing it out.
bobjack
Poker, thanks, there appears to be a possible "inverse H&S" setting up now on 5 Min QQQQ chart at about Daily support.
bobjack
Hi Chuck, I was just looking at the definition myself -- I was remembering mention of volume AND Trend Lines also, from looking at that a couple of days ago.
http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:chart_analysis:chart_patterns:head_and_shoulders_t
bobjack
Hello All -- Question to board, " Has anyone here actually tracked the CME and CBOE "R3" (per scamman) P2C levels for the last year or two??
If so, have the R3s been predictive at all, and do you have a set of the data that I could get from you??
thanks,
bobjack
Poker & Others who have watched 5 Min charts for years -- there appears to be tons of H%S (regular AND inverted)patterns. Do any of you have a feel for how many actually work out (percentage-wise).
thanks,
bobjack
Amen, I think some believe what they say and are just not knowledgable (I been there myself), and as you said ."Like the nightly news, sometimes people writing these articles are trying to have a learned sounding commentary but it doesn't hold up (and they are getting PAID to do it)".
EDIT: Glad you like the place, the population on some of the boards there has become very small but VIX seems to have a decent amt of talk and knowledge,
bobjack
Hi Steve, ya might wanna look at the vix board over at:
http://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=6863&pt=m
bobjack
stocks4john, should be there now -- let me know if that works for ya,
bobjack
stocks4john, if it is something really important, send it to me and i will save it as a rich text file and send it back to ya.
bobjacketnow
at
yahoo
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Hi stocks4john, that WPS file extension is a most likely a MS Works document file, not a graphic file.
see:
http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/wps
which says it can be opened with most versions of MS Word, and starting in 2006, MS Works dropped that format and went to the .doc format for the MS Works word processor,
bobjack
Poker, FROM iBOX, The bearish H&S pattern is often talked about, but seldom seen. It is a variation of the rounded top, but it has three distinct tops -- the highest top in the middle (head) and lower tops (shoulders) on either side of the head. Ideally, the volume peaks that occur under each top, should be highest under the left shoulder and lowest under the right shoulder.
The "neckline" is drawn under the two bottoms that separate the head from the shoulders. A SELL Signal is given when the neckline is penetrated downward. From that point the estimated downside target is equal to the distance between the top of the head and the neckline.
thanks,
bobjack
Look at QID 15/30/60 min charts - possibly marking out H/S there too.
QQQQ 15/30/60 possibly marking out reverse H/S there.
I don't know exact rules for volume on H/S, just looking at the general pattern/look of the charts.
We are at the bottom of a possible new $2 range -- UP, and tickling the 34ema right now, OR, we are just starting a new downtrend today, and we are marking right shoulder of HnS, I am shure that is what you are looking at, now that I said IT!!
EDIT: Dr. Joe has been pointing out possible Head n Shoulders coming on IWM for a couple of days,
bobjack