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IMO The day the remove "the group" from the SPNG share structure SPNG will rocket up in a BIG way ,They do NOT need a penny stock manipulator involved in SPNG > IMO - He is a liability to my investment.
IMO BUY all of the SPNG dips and shakeouts. IMO we will have one this week , lots of newbies in here and lots of bag holders may lock in profits on sell side if when it shakes out , but it will go much higher after they shake out the week hands and make monster cash when they cover the short... IMO we WILL see at least $.20 by end of week, AFTER a good size shake out IMO....
AND Again... I am not looking to grill and cross examine Furth like some sort of deposition , lol... It looks like he has enough of that going on. I just posted the Facts as they are in the public domain , if u have more info to add PLEASE DO , please add ur links... If Doug or a member of "the group" want to ADD something please do , board is wide open for ALL SPNG related issues.... Happy Posting....
IMO we will gap up Monday then we will get pullback to the $.075 - $.08 range earlyish on Monday , then we end day evenish - IMO by End of next week we should see $.25 range - With daily 20-30% swings. I think we have a large shake out coming sometime this week , Be ready to BUY when the red is flowing.... Just IMO ........
I am holding SPNG shares long, Yes I DID sell some Friday ,my 5th time making profits on SPNG , will buy back in when we get a pull back , and if we dont , its all good , I have profits locked in.... I am holding more FREE shares now then when I made my first SPNG flip, love it when manipulators play with these pennies... Will be looking for the pullback early next week. IMO "The Group" has a new short position at the highs , locked loaded to make a killing on the shake out.... Then they will rebuy them at lower levels , RINSE REPEAT , I am just playing the volatility they create , Sell before they shake it out and buy back before they run it up , I will hold some shares long term , they are free at this point. Happy Posting GLTA....
Here is some more public domain DD into these lawsuits against SPNG exec/insider. It looks to me like a failed SPNG promo or something , these are DRTV firms and DRTV financeers... If this in Fact related to SPNG promotions gone bad , it should have been filed in 8K and the Qs? Lets hope for SPNG sharerholders this not the case , if they failed to disclose such a material event could be bad news for SPNG........ Not sure > but it sure does smell like a SPNG promo gone bad IMO...
U.S. DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
Contracts
Court Grants Summary Judgment Enforcing Personal Guarantees for $5.5 Million Loan
BC Media Funding Company II v. Lazauskas
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PLL/2008_11_3
BC Media Funding Company II et al v. Lazauskas et al
Plaintiffs: BC Media Funding Company II and Media Funding Company
Defendants: Frank Lazauskas, Michael L. Metter, Leonard Moscati and E. Michael Pisani
Case Number: 1:2008cv06228
Filed: July 9, 2008
Court: New York Southern District Court
Office: Contract: Other Office [ Court Info ]
County: NewYork
Presiding Judge: Judge Robert P. Patterson
Nature of Suit: Contract - Other Contract
Cause: Diversity
Jurisdiction: Diversity
Jury Demanded By: 28:1441 Notice of Removal
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-nysdce/case_no-1:2008cv06228/case_id-329108/
WHO IS BC Media Funding Company II:
Investment Management and Merchant Banking Services
The Investment Management and Merchant Banking Services business was launched in 2003 as an outgrowth of the firm's advisory activities and initially oriented toward acquiring seller notes. Barker Capital began its lending activities after identifying the underserved niche of lower middle market media companies and media entrepreneurs. In Barker Capital’s experience, such companies and individuals often are overlooked by money center banks, which are focused primarily on larger media transactions, and other banks, which often do not have the necessary media expertise.
In 2004, Barker Capital closed BC Media Fund I to make senior secured loans to lower-middle market media companies and media entrepreneurs. Due to the success of Fund I and increasing deal flow, BC Media Fund II was launched in 2008.
Barker Capital does not have preset minimum or maximum loan sizes or terms, but most funded loans have been in amounts between $5.0 and $15.0 million for between one and three years. Most of the loans have been derived from proprietary deal flow that is reflective of Barker Capital’s extensive relationships in the media business.
http://www.barkercap.com/about.htm
WHO IS > Media Funding Company
MEDIA FUNDING CORPORATION is a funding source for successfully tested direct response campaigns in TV, radio, print, voice broadcast, mail and email.
Media Funding DOES NOT require clients to give up equity in their shows or pay up-front fees or deposits. In addition, because of its experience and position in the industry, it can assist its clients in attaining the best in support services such as fulfillment and merchant banking services at excellent rates.
The principal of MFC has over thirteen years of DRTV experience, which include some of the industry's most stunning success stories. So along with the crucial capital you need, MFC also provides a wealth of experience to assist you in achieving the most cost effective and reliable combination of vendors and procedures to establish your foundation for ongoing profitability.
MFC works with most media agencies buying direct response media, so your choice of media agency can be one of the industry leaders, or a smaller boutique. The choice is yours.
MFC's Preferred Vendor list also includes the three leading credit card processors in DRTV, many fulfillment houses across the country, and the industry's leading telemarketers.
http://www.mediafunding.com/aboutus/thecompany.htm
Here is some more public domain DD into these lawsuits against SPNG exec/insider. It looks to me like a failed SPNG promo or something , these are DRTV firms and DRTV financeers... If this in Fact related to SPNG promotions gone bad , it should have been filed in 8K and the Qs? Lets hope for SPNG sharerholders this not the case , if they failed to disclose such a material event could be bad news for SPNG........ Not sure > but it sure does smell like a SPNG promo gone bad IMO...
U.S. DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
Contracts
Court Grants Summary Judgment Enforcing Personal Guarantees for $5.5 Million Loan
BC Media Funding Company II v. Lazauskas
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PLL/2008_11_3
BC Media Funding Company II et al v. Lazauskas et al
Plaintiffs: BC Media Funding Company II and Media Funding Company
Defendants: Frank Lazauskas, Michael L. Metter, Leonard Moscati and E. Michael Pisani
Case Number: 1:2008cv06228
Filed: July 9, 2008
Court: New York Southern District Court
Office: Contract: Other Office [ Court Info ]
County: NewYork
Presiding Judge: Judge Robert P. Patterson
Nature of Suit: Contract - Other Contract
Cause: Diversity
Jurisdiction: Diversity
Jury Demanded By: 28:1441 Notice of Removal
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-nysdce/case_no-1:2008cv06228/case_id-329108/
WHO IS BC Media Funding Company II:
Investment Management and Merchant Banking Services
The Investment Management and Merchant Banking Services business was launched in 2003 as an outgrowth of the firm's advisory activities and initially oriented toward acquiring seller notes. Barker Capital began its lending activities after identifying the underserved niche of lower middle market media companies and media entrepreneurs. In Barker Capital’s experience, such companies and individuals often are overlooked by money center banks, which are focused primarily on larger media transactions, and other banks, which often do not have the necessary media expertise.
In 2004, Barker Capital closed BC Media Fund I to make senior secured loans to lower-middle market media companies and media entrepreneurs. Due to the success of Fund I and increasing deal flow, BC Media Fund II was launched in 2008.
Barker Capital does not have preset minimum or maximum loan sizes or terms, but most funded loans have been in amounts between $5.0 and $15.0 million for between one and three years. Most of the loans have been derived from proprietary deal flow that is reflective of Barker Capital’s extensive relationships in the media business.
http://www.barkercap.com/about.htm
WHO IS > Media Funding Company
MEDIA FUNDING CORPORATION is a funding source for successfully tested direct response campaigns in TV, radio, print, voice broadcast, mail and email.
Media Funding DOES NOT require clients to give up equity in their shows or pay up-front fees or deposits. In addition, because of its experience and position in the industry, it can assist its clients in attaining the best in support services such as fulfillment and merchant banking services at excellent rates.
The principal of MFC has over thirteen years of DRTV experience, which include some of the industry's most stunning success stories. So along with the crucial capital you need, MFC also provides a wealth of experience to assist you in achieving the most cost effective and reliable combination of vendors and procedures to establish your foundation for ongoing profitability.
MFC works with most media agencies buying direct response media, so your choice of media agency can be one of the industry leaders, or a smaller boutique. The choice is yours.
MFC's Preferred Vendor list also includes the three leading credit card processors in DRTV, many fulfillment houses across the country, and the industry's leading telemarketers.
http://www.mediafunding.com/aboutus/thecompany.htm
I am still holding SPNG shares? Sold less then half today , was going to sell them ALL but I am confident "the group" is going to manipulate this lower cashing in on the short side on a shake out , Ill rebuy those 50000 I sold at .095 for .075 or less.... But if not its all good , I am playing with house money in big way , have already locked in profits 5x on SPNG trades, IMO that is how these guys make monies , they short when it runs and buy when it shakes out, they make huge monies manipulating the action , IMO They have nearly infinite shares to move the market the way they want....
Were did u get crazy notion I am short SPNG? I have made monster cake on SPNG? Is it because I posted the FACTS RE: Doug Furth? I have found 3 public companies that have made allegations of illegal stock manipulations against Furth and OR "the group" , this is a pattern going back a few years to as recent as May 2008. This info is NOT "IMO" these are verifiable facts in the public domain....
Look at todays action , Low of .076 , High of .1039 > If u play SPNG right you can flip daily and make monies , this is EXACTLY what "the group" does IMO
Who said anything about calling Doug Furth? I simply posted the FACTS as they are in the public domain? Was not looking for an interview , just posting the Facts....
Again - WERE ARE THE FILINGS - I read the PR - Pinksheet PR is worthless, Why dont they file with SEC? It is complete right - totally legit? Then FILE IT.... Until they do u can bet this is one bigtime scam of a structure , or they would file it ASAP - They obviously have something to hide .... IMO
Yes 2006 AND 2008 - 2 totally different companies BOTH alleging the same thing > Illegal STOCK MANIPULATION...
2006? Suit was filed May 2008?
OK! u just earned the board a full hurricane season of printmail01 posts! I appreciate the invite.
Skull crossbones , no one is even making a market , unsolicted bids.. wow .. this is one stinky pinkie fo sure....
Here is what the Pinksheet think about NSMG
Pink OTC Markets has discontinued the display of quotes on pinksheets.com for this security because it has been labeled Caveat Emptor (Buyer Beware) and because adequate current information has not been made available by the issuer of the securities. It has been labeled Caveat Emptor for one of the following reasons:
Questionable Promotion — The security is being promoted to the public, but adequate current information about the issuer has not been made available to the public.
Spam — The security is the subject of spam promotion having the effect of encouraging trading of the issuer's securities.
Investigation of Fraud — There is a known investigation of fraudulent activity involving the company, its securities or insiders.
Suspension/Halt — A Regulatory Authority has halted or suspended trading for public interest concerns (i.e. not a news or earning halt).
Disruptive Corporate Actions — The security or issuer is the subject of corporate actions, such as reverse mergers or serial stocks splits and name changes, without adequate current information being publicly available.
Unsolicited Quotes — The security has only been quoted on an unsolicited basis since it entered the public markets and the issuer has not made adequate current information available to the public.
Other Public Interest Concern — There is, in Pink OTC Markets' view, a public interest concern.
Consequently, Pink OTC Markets has removed the quotes from this website until adequate current information is made available by the issuer pursuant to Pink OTC Markets Guidelines for Providing Adequate Current Information (PDF) and until Pink OTC Markets believes there is no longer a public interest concern. Investors are encouraged to use care and due diligence in their investment decisions. Please read our Investor Protection page for more information.
agree NYPD , I am sure this will have some runs when the storms get going , it already has made nice move up, but I am talking facts and filings. I read all these posts here like everyone is posting from auditted SEC filings and all they have is forward looking PR from a pinksheet , It is extremely misleading and I just wanted to call them out on it, but I do agree, this stock will have some wild swings.... both directions..... IMO
When SPNG broke 52week high, shorts started covering IMO. Tomorrow we should see more covering at the open, before, IMO, "the group" puts in another HUGE short at or near $.10 and begins the next shake out, I am holding SPNG , hoping to SELL at or near $.10 tomorrow, will rebuy after the shake out, , I am hoping Doug and the group keep on , IMO , manipluating this stock.... Do some DD into Doug Furth and "short-swing" trades..... U have 2 b willing to SELL when retail is buying and BUY when retail is selling , IMO that is how "the group' makes monies ,they play the retail trade action... However this is IMPO based on multiple past Factual allegations made against Doug Furth and "the group" .... GLTA , Happy Posting.... IMPO of the Facts
I included links in my posts , it is all verifiable info , I did not make it up , it is public info , directly cut and paste from the public domain , it is NOT "IMO" , These are factual allegations of stock manipulation.... have u ever tried google? Give it a try , good place to begin DD IMO....
lol i figured as much...u have NO verifiable info on share count , cash on hand , profit losses etc.... Thank you for the confirmation.
IMO Pinksheets that put out financials in PR instead of auditted SEC filings do it for a reason. What is share count? They issued PR on revenues , why not share count? Why no mention of profits or losses, how much cash do they have on hand? I am not saying stock wont go higher , be clear on that , what I am saying is they are not putting out filings for a reason, they could have easily disclosed share count and cash on hand, profit loss in the PR? Why not disclose the share count?
were r u getting these filings rhino? please post link , ive been looking for recent filings and cant find anything recent? were do u get ur info - Thanks,
This was 2004? How about a recent filing on profit , losses, share counts etc..????
please post link to share count and filings were u got these totals? r they factual or just your own personal made up estimates? I cant find any recent verifiable information on the share structure and revenues.. please post link or disclaimer the post properly as ur personal opinion...
goodluckwiththatlol , pinksheet blaming naked shorts for tanked stock price , lol..... What what a novel excuse , have not heard that one before(tic) lol....
more like a bad dream of dillution imo.eom
Here is some public DD on the Doug Furth "group" > See links:
May 2008:
First Responder Products Inc v. Douglas G Furth et al
Plaintiff: First Responder Products Inc
Defendant: Douglas G Furth, Mark Fixler, Jag Enterprises LLC, Michel Attias, Brendon Attias, Timothy Garlin and Does
Case Number: 8:2008cv00586
Filed: May 27, 2008
Court: California Central District Court
Office: Southern Division - Santa Ana Office [ Court Info ]
County: Orange
Presiding Judge: Carney
Referring Judge: Abrams
Nature of Suit: Other Statutes - Securities/Commodities/Exchanges
Cause: 15:78m(a) Securities Exchange Act
Jurisdiction: Federal Question
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-cacdce/case_no-8:2008cv00586/case_id-416779/
LEGAL PROCEEDINGS
On May 27, 2008, as previously reported, the Company filed a lawsuit in the United States District Court, Central District of California, Case No. SACV08-00586 CJC (PLAx) alleging securities law violations and fraud against Douglas G. Furth individually and allegedly dba Millennium Consulting Group, Inc., a defunct Ohio corporation; Mark Fixler; JAG Enterprises, LLC; Michel Attias; Brendon Attias; Timothy Garlin; and various DOE defendants for disgorgement of short-swing profits in violation of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, Section 16(b) and for recovery of damages for fraud and deceit. These defendants, collectively, refer to themselves as “the Group”. The amount of defendants’ short-swing profit liability is unknown at this time but the Company intends to engage in expedited discovery to determine defendants’ trading profits which, by statute, must be returned to the Company. The lawsuit also sought the return of one million shares of stock given to the Group Defendants as consideration for alleged consulting services which were never performed, and which allowed the Group Defendants to engage in, as the Company alleges, illegal manipulation of the Company's stock
http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/displayfilinginfo.aspx?FilingID=6166680-71351-76415&type=sect&dcn=0001116502-08-001559
___________________________________
MAY 2006 >
Blue Chip alleges Furth to violate security laws
The Plaintiff, Blue Chip IR Group, LTD (“Blue Chip”) is a Nevada limited liabilitycompany doing business in Utah. Blue Chip is a shareholder in Ever-Glory International Group,Inc. (“EGLY”), a publicly traded company with securities registered with the SEC. DefendantFurth, a “financial public relations specialist,” entered into an agreement with Blue Chip inwhich Furth was to purchase EGLY shares as well as use his expertise to open new markets forEGLY shares, increasing share value. Blue Chip would compensate Furth by transferring175,000 EGLY shares to Furth in an account at Wilson-Davis & Co., located in Salt Lake City,Utah. Blue Chip alleges that Furth has or intends to violate applicable security laws byartificially manipulating the volume and price for EGLY shares.
Blue Chip Group v. Furth
Case Number: 2:2006cv00185
Filed: March 2, 2006
Court: Utah District Court
Office: Central Office [ Court Info ]
Presiding Judge: Judge David Sam
Nature of Suit: Torts - Property - Other Fraud
Cause: 28:1331 Fed. Question: Securities Violation
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
Blue Chip IR Group, Ltd. v. Furth et al
Keyword tags: None
Case Number: 1:2006cv01939
Filed: August 14, 2006
Court: Ohio Northern District Court
Office: Cleveland Office [ Court Info ]
Presiding Judge: Hon. Patricia A. Gaughan
Nature of Suit: Torts - Property - Other Fraud
Cause: 28:1331 Fed. Question: Securities Violation
jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
Here is more recent allegation RE: "The Group"
First Responder Products Inc v. Douglas G Furth et al
Plaintiff: First Responder Products Inc
Defendant: Douglas G Furth, Mark Fixler, Jag Enterprises LLC, Michel Attias, Brendon Attias, Timothy Garlin and Does
Case Number: 8:2008cv00586
Filed: May 27, 2008
Court: California Central District Court
Office: Southern Division - Santa Ana Office [ Court Info ]
County: Orange
Presiding Judge: Carney
Referring Judge: Abrams
Nature of Suit: Other Statutes - Securities/Commodities/Exchanges
Cause: 15:78m(a) Securities Exchange Act
Jurisdiction: Federal Question
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-cacdce/case_no-8:2008cv00586/case_id-416779/
LEGAL PROCEEDINGS
On May 27, 2008, as previously reported, the Company filed a lawsuit in the United States District Court, Central District of California, Case No. SACV08-00586 CJC (PLAx) alleging securities law violations and fraud against Douglas G. Furth individually and allegedly dba Millennium Consulting Group, Inc., a defunct Ohio corporation; Mark Fixler; JAG Enterprises, LLC; Michel Attias; Brendon Attias; Timothy Garlin; and various DOE defendants for disgorgement of short-swing profits in violation of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, Section 16(b) and for recovery of damages for fraud and deceit. These defendants, collectively, refer to themselves as “the Group”. The amount of defendants’ short-swing profit liability is unknown at this time but the Company intends to engage in expedited discovery to determine defendants’ trading profits which, by statute, must be returned to the Company. The lawsuit also sought the return of one million shares of stock given to the Group Defendants as consideration for alleged consulting services which were never performed, and which allowed the Group Defendants to engage in, as the Company alleges, illegal manipulation of the Company's stock
http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/displayfilinginfo.aspx?FilingID=6166680-71351-76415&type=sect&dcn=0001116502-08-001559
LOL, can u read?
Blue Chip alleges Furth to violate security laws
The Plaintiff, Blue Chip IR Group, LTD (“Blue Chip”) is a Nevada limited liabilitycompany doing business in Utah. Blue Chip is a shareholder in Ever-Glory International Group,Inc. (“EGLY”), a publicly traded company with securities registered with the SEC. DefendantFurth, a “financial public relations specialist,” entered into an agreement with Blue Chip inwhich Furth was to purchase EGLY shares as well as use his expertise to open new markets forEGLY shares, increasing share value. Blue Chip would compensate Furth by transferring175,000 EGLY shares to Furth in an account at Wilson-Davis & Co., located in Salt Lake City,Utah. Blue Chip alleges that Furth has or intends to violate applicable security laws byartificially manipulating the volume and price for EGLY shares.
Blue Chip Group v. Furth
Case Number: 2:2006cv00185
Filed: March 2, 2006
Court: Utah District Court
Office: Central Office [ Court Info ]
Presiding Judge: Judge David Sam
Nature of Suit: Torts - Property - Other Fraud
Cause: 28:1331 Fed. Question: Securities Violation
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
Blue Chip IR Group, Ltd. v. Furth et al
Keyword tags: None
Case Number: 1:2006cv01939
Filed: August 14, 2006
Court: Ohio Northern District Court
Office: Cleveland Office [ Court Info ]
Presiding Judge: Hon. Patricia A. Gaughan
Nature of Suit: Torts - Property - Other Fraud
Cause: 28:1331 Fed. Question: Securities Violation
jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
I find it funny how some folks just cant see the obvious.... Pinksheet stock blaming naked shorts lol... good luck with that... IMO
sure i am makin money on SPNG , been in out few tines, holding a good amount now , will sell tomorrow if we get near that $.10 , rebuy them next week when they shake it out, profits in hand , IMO this stock is being manipluated by the the Doug Furth "group" in a BIG major way , be careful , day is coming when IMO SEC is going to step in here , SPNG has a lot of issues with filings and disclosure IMO - But does not mean it wont trade higher etc... IMO
LOL yeah right , show me proof of the OS? FACTs say When u see half billion shares trade in one day , and continue over few days, and the price does not move you KNOW u have BILLIONS of shares churning, IMO of the FACTS
I have seen this stock trade 200 million in an afternoon, this is NOT a large FTD when you consider the multi BILLION share structure .... 200 million at .001 is only $20k in stock .... RCCH is being DUMPED by the billion IMO....
Scary... fo sure.... LOTS of $.015s held by these guys.... Lets hope they r in this for long haul.....
Secured Convertible Promissory Note $.015 (2) 7/31/2010 Common Stock 500000000 500000000 I (1) By Vicis Capital Master Fund
Secured Convertible Promissory Note $.015 (2) 11/1/2010 Common Stock 166666666.67 166666666.67 I (1) By Vicis Capital Master Fund
Secured Convertible Promissory Note $.015 (2) 1/15/2011 Common Stock 166666666.67 166666666.67 I (1) By Vicis Capital Master Fund
http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/displayfilinginfo.aspx?FilingID=6643976-1848-15677&type=sect&TabIndex=2&companyid=6643&ppu=%252fdefault.aspx%253fcik%253d1047919
Should get close to my $.10 target , watch out , "the group" is going to make a killing on the short when they shake out all these newbies coming on board chasing , but it will come back after the shake out , this stock should keep moving up on lower lows higher highs, but we will have a few hardcore shakeouts coming soon IMO....
I WILL sell soon, these guys will keep selling shares until this back at 500mil o/s and trading under a buck... I have stop loss in at $13.35 and GTC sell at $17.00 - lets see what one triggers first , I really dont care , tired of the way these guys sell issue dillute shares like mad men... they just got thru a R/S and they issue more shares , IMO that is totally lame and shows exactly what management thinks of the stock , it is to sell , not to invest in....
Look at all the new 2010 expire options:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/op?s=CDE&m=2010-01
I sold some of my jan2010 call 2.50 contracts today , sold ones I bought for $.10 for $.15 , now if I can dump the load of $.20s I hold for $.25+ Ill be happy.....
Now they have presplit and post split options trading on the 2010 expiration, very confusing.....
Post link to filing or retract and stop posting lies.eom
Yeah I saw... I swear I am dumping CDE - THIS IS BS - We just got the share count down , I guess it was only a nice fresh start for the habitual shareholder dillution machine that is CDE management.... arg... I swear I am dumping CDE soon , I'm selling my common into any strength while I have some profits , the call options tanked , I am dead even , my options selling for $.10 today, I bought some higher then .10 , most at $.10 , but recently before r/s they were trading upwards .35 , ask .40 just few weeks ago , should have sold , was up large , should have known better , these guys pee me off.... I see now why all those large option orders sold , they knew these guys could not control themselves, they dont care what share count is , they will sell sell sell dillute dillute dillute and make it all so good , BS... TOTAL BS...
I was going to sell today , but I was on road early today , did not get ot my desk until 11AM , the bid was already gone , PAL was down 11% today.... But I am in PAL common just under 2. Calls are Jan2010 expires, I have Jan2010 call 5s NOT 2.50s , my Dad has the 2.50s, he got in early sold and rebought already. He saw a thing on 60 minutes about Palladium and "cold fussion" , it is the primary or only metal that can be used or something... PAL shot up over $1 share within 2 days of that story.... AND PALs' main mine is CLOSED right now going thru a 30million redo and price got to low they shuttered osme of it , the minute that mine goes back online PAL is a double IMO , Right now Palladium is depressed becuase of the automotive play , it needs a new high profile industrial use , same as silver , all these new uses for silver are going to eat up supply , add in some investor demand , ETF demands , the metals that have growing uses are going to do well, Silver, Palladium , Platinum , IMO Gold is a pure hedge not a lot of industrial beyond the jewelery....
.102 , today, I have buy in for .099 did NOT fill.... small order thought it would print today as well.... held nicely at .10 today for the volume on new shares... IMO