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It doesn't matter if you get the new restricted shares are not, they will never be worth anything.
I will have to think about that one, to sell at .01 is the same as selling at .0001. This make no sense to me. Where can you sell your new shares for a certain price now?
What about the ones that paid .0008 before the R/S. How much loss they are taking?
3 D Vision Inc. NO longer exist at the address you gave me. Their phone number has been disconnected and the phone number is 951-898-9888. Try again, like I said NO PROOF
Give me a web site, address, phone number or anything that says they are in business. You can't find it because 3 D Vision doesn't exist.
There is no keeping of shares in a R/S, PPJE took 100 shares and give you 1. I don't see where you have kept anything, I know the new shares are given to you but they are worthless
It should read New Jersey BASED Pain Clinic, this way there is NO paper trail, no name. This is why they do all their prs that way. I have been doing alot of DD on these companies, can't find any of them. This is why they do this, so you can't hold them accountable. Don't believe for one min. that PPJE hides the name so shareholders want call them up. I know you don't believe that line.
I'm not talking about PPJE existing, I'm talking about the companies they are annoucing contracts with. I might look at PPJE more to see how many employees they have and how real they are. What is their web site address?
Who knows, I can't tell what the truth is
Is PPJE a good company
I have been doing alot of research on PPJE today and I don't believe this company is straight with investors. This is how I approach any Penny Stock that I believe something just isn't right.
It is hard to get concrete news on PPJE itself. This is one thing I don't like and it usually shows up in different things. I have checked all the news items on PPJE and wonder why they aren't making money. I think I have got the answer, their Prs are not telling the whole truth. I can't tell if the companies even exist, no names, phone number or web site. The only thing they give you is like New Jersey based or southern Calif. area. Even at best if these companies exist I believe PPJE is Blowing the numbers up to make their future look good.
I keep looking at the info board PPJE has when you click on more post on I HUB. The info on that board does not add up to a R/S and no earnings. The info on that board does not describe what is really going on at PPJE. It is a cover sheet to bring in more investors. This is what I think is happening
Why do you think the restricted shares will be worth anything, the trading shares aren't
I do understand but you know they release this kind of info to pump their stock up. I personally do not know the CEO of PPJE and she might be a fine person. In all my years of dealing with Penny Stocks, I have not found one CEO I can trust. They may mean well but alot of people get hurt in the process.
I have heard of alot of Penny Stock companies offer this dividend. The problem is the dividend is never worth anything, it is just paper with no value. To me it makes no sense because they just took your trading shares away. Now they what to give you shares worth nothing to replace the shares you just lost. Where does this make sense for the investor
You are right, if she keeps doing the samething, PPJE will not make it.
Tell me, are the incentive shares more PPJE stock, dividends or what?
Like the person just said a R/S is a Red Flag in any stock. If she was going to buyback stock it would have happened before the R/S. Any R/S is a Kiss of Dead in any Stock, 99 percent of the stocks that do this never recover. Do you realise that after a R/S you lose shares, it is impossible to come back. I see where somebody paid .008 for PPJE awhile back, at what price would it have to go to get your money back. I haven't done the math on that but I believe it would be alot.
I hate to tell you this but 3 D Vision isn't around anymore
Why is she talking about these four in process of signing deals if that is the case?
Your incentive shares are worth nothing because your trading shares are worth nothing. The incentive shares is just a trick to keep you hanging on. You have got the right idea about PPJE to my opinion. The only people buying this stock is old shareholders, no interest.
To R/S and buy back stock at the sametime makes no sense. To R/S and bring out news makes some sense, the problem is there is no news to bring out. She told Superman if PPJE had news we would bring it out.
I understand, you are only repeating what PPJE has put out in a pr. This is the type of news that shouldn't be put out because it is just hype. The other day the CEO said she couldn't talk about any contracts until they were signed. She needs to make her mind up, yes, no yes no, she didn't say anything about being almost signed. You only talk about contracts when they are signed, contracts in the process of being signed will take you to bankruptcy. Remember R/S, NO R/S YES
This is what you said from one your post.
PPJ Enterprise Updates Its Shareholders
RENO, NV, Oct 14, 2011 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- PPJ Enterprise (PINKSHEETS: PPJE) (The Company), a leader in proprietary automated health care reimbursement cycle software (all specialties), online health information digital systems software and practice information management digital system software for health care providers and general businesses, today updates its shareholders:
1. The Company is now in Current status with the OTC Markets.
2. The Company marketing team attended a Pain Management conference in Las Vegas 3 weeks ago and so far 4 new billing and collection clients are in the process of signing contracts.
This is what I am talking about, you said it in your post.
What does current status with the OTC Market mean?
You said that PPJE is in the process of signing four new contracts. How long does it take to sign a contract, five seconds. PPJE needs to sign the contracts and put them in a pr instead of talking about the process. Last year PPJE was in the process of making alot of money according to PPJE, didn't happen, R/S.
I used to own a stock that was filing to be on the Masdaq. The CEO told me it was lying on his desk ready to be signed. The problem was it layed on his desk until the company went out of business. Alot of these companies practice deception
Let me ask you this, why do you think PPJE, R/S their stock?
All R/S stocks tank if they don't receive news after the split. Some of the news they put out last year didn't happen, so why should that change after the R/S. The R/S did happen to make the stock price go up, there are other issues the company is not talking about. If news doesn't come out in the next few months .005 easy.
Usually a R/S will hold its price for awhile. Give it a month and no new news and it will begin to tank. I think the no news thing is what will happen.
Volume on the sell side is never good.
Did the revenues come from other companies or maybe selling of stock. I don't trust these numbers because they can bring these numbers out of thin air. Give me the link where the company has said they earned 700 thousand for the 3rd quarter. The R/S makes me think the numbers on the revenues are just an estimation on PPJE part. I don't think PPJE would R/S if they had that kind of Revenue stream.
Alot of investors don't believe in PPJE, so they sell to get out of this stock. You have to remember alot of investors have paid alot more for this stock than it is selling for now. What does this stock offer you now that it didn't offer a year ago, a R/S. No new deals that bring in revenues like they promised a year ago. Investors do not believe PPJE is telling the truth because of what they said a year ago. No R/S, earnings and try to get the stock higher so it can trade on a better board. NONE of these items happened and you have to ask why are people selling. This stock isn't trading enough shares to buy a meal, that means nobody is interested in this stock. You heard that old saying you get me the first time, your mistake. You get me the second time, my mistake
Ramo has one finger sticking out of the grave, this stock doesn't have many days left.
I wish the CEO would give me his number and I will be glad to call him.
My question to you is, why all these hard times now? PPJE is the one talking about earnings and R/S at the sametime. This type news conflicts with each other. The only people buying this stock now are old investors who want to keep this dream alive. PPJE has been a sub penny stock for a long time now. If PPJE has got something to say put it out in a pr to all investors. All they do is give an email or talk to one or two investors to push their news on. This is a trick done by all Sub Penny Stocks
Institutional investors don't buy Penny Stocks. I do agree that small investors are the only ones buying this stock. I guess time will tell but I don't see PPJE as a stock to buy. A R/S would be enough for me to stay away. PPJE has talked about earnings for awhile now, I haven't seen any positive results from that. Alot of times Penny Stocks talk that game but that is all it is. I know alot of you don't agree but show me.
PPJE 2011 EARNINGS
According to PPJE they are supposed to have earnings of 1.750 Million Dollars in 2011. They lost 51,000 for 2010, sounds like somebody is pumping the numbers. I did notice that PPJE would only say that the earnings was coming from a Big Southen Calif company or a company in Calif. The point is no names are give and they have disconnected the links to these news items All the news I am talking about is in 2011, they don't mention the name because they are pumping the numbers.
It wasn't the shareholders that put this company where it is at, try management. Try to make it look like the company is doing the shareholders a favor by doing a R/S. The company has got the price up to .001 after stealing 92 percent of your stock and you are ok with that.
Can you tell me if PPJE is still under the Bankruptcy they filed in Calif in 2009? Maybe now they can issue more share to get them out of the Bankruptcy shareholders paid for.
If PPJE is doing so good, why did we R/S and our stock keeps going down. These actions say something different, PPJE is not doing good and their stock price will go lower.
Is ppje out of Bankruptcy?
PPJ Enterprise engages in the marketing of medical billing software in the United States. The company, formerly known as Healthcare Business Services Groups, Inc., was founded in 1994 and is headquartered in Reno, Nevada. On June 27, 2008, PPJ Enterprise filed a voluntary petition for liquidation under Chapter 7 in the US Bankruptcy Court for the Central District of California.
You did make a good point, PPJE said they were doing a R/S to get the stock price up. When the made the annoucement you said they were selling at .0003 and the R/S annoucement made to stock go to .0001. So the stock dropped 200 percent on the annoucement and another 30 to 50 percent after the split. Something doesn't make sense, the company said they were doing this to get the stock price higher. As long as PPJE tells you something you will continue to believe it. You have lost your share and value, what more proof do you need?
When you see a stop sign you usually put on brakes before you get there. If PPJE didn't do the R/S they were going to run out of money, they are putting on brakes before the stop sign. Now they can sell alot of stock to keep the company going. PPJE is not making any money to keep this company going. I remember when PPJE stock price was running, NO R/S, EARNINGS and hiring more employees. Now we R/S AND NO EARNINGS, what happened, I think somebody is not telling the truth.
With the R/S do you realise how much this stock would have to go up for you to get your money back, not going to happen.
I don't trust these CEO's of Penny Stocks at all. I do like their last pr, the effectiveness of our reverse split has made our stock price go up. The R/S was 100 to 1 and with the new restricted shares the best you could have done is 92 to 1. Why didn't they just make the R/S less than 100 to 1 and not deal with restricted shares? The reason is they just stole your trading shares for shares that aren't worth a hill of beans. Now PPJE can sell your old shares they stole from you to somebody else. The reason they done the R/S is because they ran out of tradable shares. Now they can sell almost 7 Billion more Shares to anybody, don't worry news is coming.
PPJE is the one that R/S their stock, Fact
PPJE is the one that can't show any real earnings, Fact
PPJE didn't R/S the A/S shares, how come, Fact
PPJE did R/S the shares you own, Fact
Now what has this company told you that makes you trust in them? The only reason they didn't R/S the A/S shares is because they want to sell YOUR shares again. Do you know since they have Reversed Split their stock you have LOST another 30 percent and that is at the ask, going lower. Why do you like this company?