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That was my point. because of the shares outstanding, comparing thrx to aria is not ideal in terms of share price for both.
correct. so if we had around 99.45m shares outstanding as THRX, we would also be around $30pps. no? guess thats why dilution can be frowned upon. more shares outstanding devalue share price, not market cap.
ARIA-3.01B, THRX-3.47B. If we had the same amount of shares outstanding we would be in the same ball park regarding share price. no?
THRX in mid 30s because they have almost half the shares outstanding, that ariad has at the moment. if we mimic the same number of shares THRX has, we would already be in the same ball park regarding share price.
so being a short this year, by all intents and purposes, has been the better play for dealing ariad? Seems to be something for everyone when trading this stock. Wouldn't you say?
things have changed regarding the action of this stock. The stock action of ariad this year, seems to be going against its true value. Despite what would be considered obvious growth and fruition of new medical sciences. The past few years the stock could do no wrong: Lost lawsuit, price moved up. announced dilution(s), price went up. having a potential drug against cancer rejected, price moved up. These events would normally put a hurting on a companies growth and stock value (for quite some time). Now, the more positive news the company puts forward, the more the stock price retreats. Bizarro.
The continuous drag down of this stock has gotten silly. I for one would rather have a one time steep drop to wherever it needs to get to. Just get the downtrend out of the way already. And if it wants to go to 9, 10, 11, 12, so be it! Just get it over with already!
whats unfortunate? try quoting the entire comment and not just three words, apple kind
this board is full of ariad longs. and unfortunately for the longs, ariad has been batting for the shorts this year. makes for a lot of unease, and clutter. What say you applekind?
How does it get to that bottom?.....wait for it......manipulation, at its finest
Im not sure what all this bottom talk is all about. Seems to be people hopefully trying to predict a stop from the price erosion. stock price completely out of sync with facts, expectations, and the market. Its also not about offerings, dirty pill references, selling of shares.
Not sure. But i thought it was brought up few weeks ago. And before this latest in increased share vote.
Recently, a poster on this board had brought up information they had seen about ariad possibly increasing its share count. Maybe by conducting a stock split down the road. Could this latest proposed share offering be what the reading material meant?
240 - 450. Does it seem like a bit much at this stage?
Cant imagine us having those cards in our future. But maybe there is some truth in those words. Ever wonder why harvey is so against selling? Could it be for target reasons comparable to apple? Thats why he knows that if he were to sell now, he wouldnt come close to what he could get latter?......method behind the madness?. Hhhmmmm?
Like i mentioned, bizarro world with this stock
True. Really bizarro
I feel like i am in the bizzaro world when it comes to the action of this stock, in comparison to what it has going for it.
Thats fine. Glad its not just this board that knows what the potential can be. Thanks
Is it me, or does it seem that this board is the only one to see ariads potential? That alone should have us hovering around $20! Or more!
Turning into a ho hum day?...Really? After what was realized today?...now can posters understand why i have been bitter, frustrate, concerned, etc?!
Finally! Guess the facts cant be ignored.
hopefully the restart of a gradual ascend trajectory.
Wont matter about the doses. I believe once this pig starts to pick up steam, there wont be much in the way of stopping it...would just like it to be soon.
Because this is really humouros. We are all strangers on this board, so does it really matter what any of us say or thinks about one another? Seriously, i hope this stock reverses its trend and soon.
Looks as if the company is moving in the right direction with sales and science. Just really frustrating when the market is not agreeing for what ever reason. Just look at arna, ariad seems to take hits like that when theres good news.
I agree. And do think that withen reason, anyone is welcomed to a free message board.
Thats fine and your rights to second guess. I dont want to count my eggs until they have all hatched either. But i do hope in the end i wont have to worry as i am now.
What your questioning seems to be true. Doesn't that concern you at the present moment?
Careful, stating facts is considered blasphemy.
They say laughing is good for the soul. Glad i could instill some in your life. Lets go ariad! Looking for google #s
hope your right!!!!!!!!
Welcome to the board according to dbag45
Good post
Lol, a dream
im already a bad investor for not having sold at least some between $25-$18. At this point, I guess all i can do is hold and hope for a turn around.
"Piece of Mind, what do you think ARIAD should do legally
that it hasn't done yet that would satisfy your concern about
the stock. I or maybe some others in this board would like
to hear your opinion about this matter."
legally? beats me. but the answer is simple. price goes down based on...? based on...? Im concerned. price goes up based on science and good fundamentals, my concerns are diminished.
aint that the truth
"pom, let's hear some facts, real hard facts about Ariad rather than more musings."
"Thanks for the quote - it stands on its own merits"
You want to hear facts? stock price is down big again today, for no apparent reason. not musing, just stating the Facts!
"Can you offer an explanation for this phenomenon?"
"I've offered my reasons why it's not a problem (if you're a long, which I am).
I see the underlying value of the company as a boiling cauldron, ever increasing
the pressure, until it breaks out and we'll see an upward explosion of the ops."
Thanks for offering your reasons. That still does not give me reassurance. I don't get why, or know when, about stock flows. so until someone such as yourself (as i recall, no such warnings regarding the coming months last october), can accurately predict what the stock will do tomorrow, or the next day or the next etc...I can voice my god given concerns...no?