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I didn't ask for right now haha. But next time you in. But hey even better
If you can take a pic and put it up here. Always good to see
Washing and Crossing shares to yourself making the illusion of selling doesn't make it "higher sell volume"
Example: there's a lot of the same 5-10k shares being sold over and over again and between 2-3 accounts making 5-10k shares appear as if there's as much as 30k etc in selling.
It may work for the time being but won't for long.
Ya rbtree, lmao. There's never ever going to be any potential buyers ever again on SMCE
But when there is. And we trading over $100k and the PPS is up into the dollar range.
What will be said them rbtree? Huh?
They also never once said that VOIS would see as much as a 1000% run or any of the other runs.
However crappy the current situation is with the current PPS (from where it should be )
VOIS was multiple times one of the heaviest traded and popular tickers making a lot of shareholders a lot of money if they traded it right
No I did not because the form was not secure and they were gathering CC with Security Codes all in the same place (since it wasn't actually processing) it wasn't a processor page but a text field submit form
Storing CC# and Security Codes is a huge NO NO
However, I'm very interested to know how it works for anyone that did order
I usually do Tyro, hey I'm red myself but I ain't sweating any bullets Bc I know the big picture for the PPS is multidollars
Nobody loosing or lost anything Bc they haven't sold a share Veronica Fox
;)
And? They did one RS 4 years ago. WOWWWWWWW OMGGGGGGGG
PANIC PANIC
Then I guess there's no rhyme or reason to even be thinking about SMCE is there?
;)
That's interesting DJ Bc I know at least 10 people that are holding a significant amount of shares and rising this baby to the top when the time comes.
Some of them hold as much as 100K++ shares.
It's nonsense to even consider a RS- LMAO
So? It's only temporary myk myk
I've been playing stocks for years and seen it 100's of times.
The fact we are down here, will soon attract a lot of buying soon.
I've seen tickers be down even bigger and go to 52 week low and then go to the HOY.
Same thing will occur here shortly (HOY)
Add this to the DD list
SMCE hit $20+++
LMAO- SMCE will not being doing a RS
But yet anyone can call the TA daily if like and see that the float remains the same as it did first of the month. Company nor anyone else is selling any shares.
Won't happen rbtree, as much as you want it too. There isn't any "toxic" notes.
There's no "Asher" or "Magna" or "JSJ" or any of those in this.
Just AINT happening and never will.
Proper DD into what and where the debt from answers those questions. This isn't a share selling sham. It's a company in business for over 10 years with a nice office in SF not far from the bay and other regional offices in the U.S.
They have an ongoing artist/clients portfolio and expanding its business model.
As I've said rbtree, shortly - watch the fireworks start hitting here
Yes, we are all front loading these shares right now at these great prices with a less than 4m float and zero company selling leading into a plethora of awesome news and heavy volume coming in shortly.
;)
The float is less than 4m. News will come, everything will happen positively...
As I've stated. I've seen stocks trading as low as $5k a day for a period at the low of the year and then suddenly shoot up 1000% and trade as much as $1 million in a day. And the float was 150 x's the size (at least)
$1m in one day on SMCE could put this into multidollars over night.
Especially when there's no selling by the company. ;)
SMCE will be just fine rbtree. But thanks for the sincere concern
;)
Regardless rbtree of the situation today and the current float/OS/AS
I was mistaken earlier - VOIS went as high as 1000%
VOIS went from .0008 to .0086 and went from .0007 to .0055 and many other high % moves.
The point is that VOIS has done well on many occasions and peaked the interest of investors many times. And it very well may again. And I hope it does. But stocks go up and down and of course OTC has bigger swings and sometimes short lived. VOIS actually had the perfect opportunity to be one of those gradual risers into multi pennies if they handled the pre launch better and handled their finances differently.
Unfortunately we are at a point to where I'm sitting sidelines.
Rbtree, VOIS ran as high as 800%, 500% and 300% during the times I was very positive of the company. And traded as much as $1m days. So I have been correct about it. It was also the most heavily and popular trades on multiple occasions.
Don't worry about SMC# rbtree, I will be correct about it too. And it's float is less than 4m and no company or third party selling. But this isn't about that one
I go deep into my DD and up until the mediocre launch of VOIS - my DD was solid. ;)
Yes I praised the company up until the point of pre launch to where they dropped the most important ball for me. Up until then I had zero problems with them. And as I stated rbtree, I communicated daily with many people here and told them immediately my thoughts.
Why should I apologize for the company? I am not VOIS
Grapeguy, I have absolutely zero motive.
Many people outside of the ones I communicate with directly on almost daily basis hit me up privately and asked my position and I've told them the exact same thing.
I want the best for everyone here and always have. I am not one to play mind games for shares. There's no agenda here. I hope the company and stock skyrockets for the present shareholders
Losing money is not fun.
Grapeguy,
Everything I've expressed as concerns doesn't mean the stock will not do well.. In fact, it could make a huge run.. It's held up quite well despite the AS increase announcement.. and the device is very close to launch.
Maybe the company has some huge surprise announcement that could really make this move beautifully.. But it's not as easy to move up as previous because the float is 2.3b shares as compared to around 500-600m when it ran to .008.. But then again.. that doesn't mean anything sometimes depending on how much cash flow comes in and how good the news is..
But, my biggest beef is this is a stock and play with a revolutionary device/tech and very attractive to investors and it's something that should of been progressively climbing up in stages over time. If they did a successful pre launch using a much better PR Firm, came out with a knockout Professional Video, announced more distribution channels lined up, actually was on Bloomberg .. etc etc.. and new website, better social media marketing, and the whole 9 yards.. this could be trading much much higher despite the hefty float..
And that is to me, Management dropping the ball and not being courteous to shareholders whatsoever, I understand that their priority in the past was getting the device to the stage of manufacturing.. but when manufacturing began.. they should of been hitting grand slams for their shareholders who have been patiently been waiting for a very long time.. That's again, why the Pre Launch was a very critical period..
The company needs to step up to the plate for everyone here.. I really sincerely hope they do, but falling through not that promise during pre launch pretty much gave me the big sign i was looking for to continue here or not..
HughJNess, nobody "told me so". I'm an adult who makes decisions on my investment based on the surrounding variables at the given time.
Nothing about the company before the failed pre launch gave me any warning signs to have these feelings.. In fact, the company came through with everything they said going to do previously as I put together in a timeline. It may of taken a while but they were going through the process as any legitimate business does when in R&D, etc.
When the Pre Launch gave us sparklers instead of bottle rockets, is when I had to readjust my decision based on those variables.. The company was given a lot of time to strategically plan an amazing Pre Launch. Many of us even emailed plenty of great suggestions and ideas which were discussed on this board. Coming from a business perspective, Pre Launches are very important and shows if a company is passionate and strategic about how they going to execute the launch and get their product marketed.
That was my most important determining factor.. Nothing before then bothered me.. Taking notes for the manufacturing and development didn't bother me bc I understand that's what needed to be done.. Even the note taken earlier in the year wasn't an issue with me bc they probably needed marketing/advertising/distribution money.. However, being told the company didn't need any more money thereafter and then not long ago finding out that they took out another $500k or whatever is just another nail in the coffin for myself.. but that was discovered after I got out.
Grapeguy, i hate to disappoint that theory or thought and don't want to really have a back and forth.. but I haven't turned into anything and have absolutely zero motive.. I'm not trying to get cheapies and not short.. And everyone that knows me, knows I don't have a history or record of being an advocate and turn to basher..
I was invested in VOIS for long time and I'm not one of those resentful, damaged goods investor..I take on the responsibility of winning or losing when I buy or sell.. I'm just speaking exactly why I'm not here anymore. Everyone has their own right and decision to do what they choose with their money.. It effects me neither way..
I sincerely hope the best for the company and shareholders.. I'd love to see this one day take off to multi pennies, company becomes household name etc.. but in order to do that.. Management has to have 1000% intentions for that and show it.
I defended VOIS for way too long because they kept telling us that they would do lot of great things from the time they start manufacturing until launch. And what I saw was very unprepared, unprofessional and mediocre performance during a critical period. However, the company did follow through with a lot of things before that throughout the year starting in 2014 and that's one of the major reasons I advocated.
But for something that's very revolutionary, and the worlds smallest.. The company didn't show enough passion and execution during the pre launch. That was my determining decision among other things like the need for more notes when made clear they didn't need any more.
My thoughts on VOIS:
It's been a while since I posted here which has raised some questions by some that I don't communicate with.. I've seen lot of interesting things (conspiracy theories) said which is fine but I will be very honest, I have not been in VOIS for 2 or so months. I'm not one to spend time on a board bashing a stock bc I sold. I post what I feel passionate about and don't waste time negating a stock or bashing but I am going to express one time here: And anyone that has contacted me, I was very honest about no longer having a position and explained exactly why:
Does that mean I think VOIS is a scam? No
Does that mean I think VOIS won't go up? No
Does that mean they aren't doing what they say are doing? No
I know a relatively large network of investors that were in VOIS that I communicated outside here on almost a daily basis and the very first sign where I didn't like what I was beginning to see, I told them immediately.. They know that, and they know who they are. I also said here that April was an important month to me in the past. I honestly thought the device would be launched some time in April.
The most important variable for me has always been the "PRE LAUNCH" and how it was handled. The Pre Launch is a very very important representation of how a company handles their product and executes the launch. It shows if they are truly passionate, professional and a big sign of their future success.. Does that mean I don't think the device won't be successful, well that's something we'll have to wait and see. And in all honesty, I truly hope so because if it does what it was originally advertised of doing, then it's an amazing thing. But the company has until this day refused to show us the "Professional Video" of this. They haven't shown us hardly anything of what they promised.
I was the biggest advocate of VOIS, and because of that, I got called names and accused as some "insider", "paid pumper" or other "conspiracies" and that's fine, despite being 1000% untrue. I believe in the technology and I believe in what it does and what it means for the future of communication and operation of cell phones and computers. I also strongly believed that VOIS could of traded multi pennies and done very well as a company if executed the way I'd hoped for. Anyone whom knows me, knows I go big and stay loyal on companies/products that I believe in. And I will be very honest, I felt like VOIS slapped myself and shareholders in the face. BIG TIME:
1) PRE LAUNCH: everything about the pre launch was a complete disappointment for me. The company hyped us up for many months via PR's, emails and via the IR that all this great stuff was going to occur between the manufacturing start date and the launch. Did that ever occur? NO.
Did we ever see that "Professional Video" Not really, we saw the same thing we saw back in october and they even rehashed old video from years ago about the software.. That was very upsetting to me.. Why was there so much emphasis on the old software? Whatever the case, we saw nothing new.. No professional Video.. nothing.
The PR firm that was made out to be some big deal was simply Redchip.. and the Bloomberg interviews was not really Bloomberg Interviews but a cheesy bow tied Redchip infomercial.. The Fact sheets that first said was going to be 60k weekly ongoing for months, then changed in the PR to 60k a month. Whatever the case.. it diddn't seem to do anything.
Joe Abrams, NEVER SPOKE ONCE!!!!! No statement, nothing! In fact, his name seemed to be disappearing from the PR's the closer it got to his contract being up.. The only distribution deal that was done or announced was Amazon which realistically is something that anyone here can get if they have a product to sell. We were told via emails and maybe a PR that Joe would be making a voice about something.. I honestly think he's long gone at this point.. Maybe some of the people were right here.. that he's just a hood ornament.. And that's really sad.. But again, maybe it's a "wait and see"
The Pre Orders.. poorly executed.. very poorly executed.. They had plenty of time to prepare the website and pre orders.. In fact, there was some serious issues about that Pre Order page that may or may not of been addressed.. First off, it wasn't a secure page.. Second, it wasn't actually processing anything.. It was a Credit Card gathering page.. (basically a text field form) in which they store the #'s until it's ready to process later. And FYI, (this shows how unprofessional they are) It's my understanding that it's illegal to store the CC # and 3 or 4 digit security code in one place.. So most likely when people were signing up on their Text Field Form Page.. they were providing all the information that wasn't being processed but simply stored.
The Website- we were led to believe for the longest time that the company would completely re haul the website.. That never happened.. yes some minor changes but the website still has old videos, old software, etc..
There was Zero Sexiness or appeal to anything they did during the pre launch.. The interview with the CEO was horrible, there was no passion.. He should of at least had the prototype in his hand or on ear while talking. Or least some kind of presentation.. but absolutely nothing.. and then the excuse was because his father died.. then when proven he was alive.. the story then became that it was Fouch and was a mix up.. So who knows.
2) The SS/NOTES etc: I know it takes money to build Star Trek Tech, and unfortunately for a company like VOIS, it probably required getting it on the worst financing terms.. I get that.. But many of us were literally told months ago that THE COMPANY DOES NOT NEED ANY MORE MONEY!!!!! Yes, I even asked the IR that myself multiple times.. Does the company need more money.. and i was told NO. But that was far far from true.. In fact, they seemed to of taken as much as they started with about a year ago.. in the $500k mark which means more shares, more third party financing etc.. It was my understanding that the company has plenty of money to manufacture, and advertise/market the first batch.. make those sales then use that money to go and manufacture more like any other company selling a product.. So the fact they went out and took more and more notes for about 500k (at least) is HUGE SLAP IN THE FACE.. The float is already out of hand and going to get even more out of hand..
The IR I don't like to talk badly about people in general but Casey Burt had a lot of people I know including myself thinking and believing a lot of different things.. He told investors I know that there was and will be no more notes.. He told myself that.. He also said the Float was only around 1b at one time and that he just checked.. and then less than 2 weeks later, the filing says 1.6b! He also said there was a professional video that was going to come out in due time.. I understand companies have strategies and like to hold things close to the chest, but it's way past that point.. We were told that the AS would not increase. We were told that Joe Abrams would speak out. There's so many things that we were told and led to believe by IR here. and when the Pre Launch started to show signs that this company is not professional, not passionate, and doing things "half a**" thats when I and many others felt slapped in the face..
I believed in this company and device for a very long time, held shares for very long time.. Watched the stock go up multiple times and huge profits to be made.. but between the public emails, the PR's, and IR, we were all led to believe that all these great big things would be coming from the time of manufacturing to the launch.. And when those "things" started to happen and turned out to be one huge disappointment.. That's when I knew and felt that it was time to consider getting out..
It's really sad, the company and the device could be something really great but the Pre Launch has proved that's not their intentions.
Again.. does that mean that the company is a scam? No, but they aren't treating it as a company that has the world's smallest BCI device and passionate about it..
Does that mean the stock won't go up? No, but it's probably just a flip for a tick or two trade and the float is getting bigger every few months from the notes they said they didn't need..
Does that mean the device doesn't work.. NO, but the company has done nothing they promised to show us like the professional video..
I still strongly believe in the BCI technology and the potential of the a device like this.. but I do not believe in the company and management. VOIS really needs new management to come in and professionally execute this device in the right manner, but I don't think they'll let that happen..
I'm not advising anyone to buy or sell, I'm just expressing my opinion about everything which started to form during the pre launch when things started to turn out opposite as we were promised..
Yes DD always win, that's why I'm going so be winning the lotto here soon DJ
;)
I guess we'll have to wait and see won't we DJ
Ok rbtree, for sh*ts and giggles let's take that wager.
That will never happen but keep trying rbtree
In fact I wouldn't be surprised if there is a "reduction"
Maybe that's why the last PR said " increase shareholder value"
That's typically one of the things that it interprets into when company says that.
FYI rbtree- that's not "convertible notes"
And the amount is small. Not near enough to call "a mess" lmao
Not uncommon for companies to need money. Takes money to make money.
Like I said. Be back in couple weeks or so and let's see how the trading is going.
Yes, and there's nothing in the financials about any toxic notes whatsoever
Ok so there's no link to any sort of actual toxic note...
Thanks, what I thought.
Where is the link to toxic note that's being claimed?
It doesn't seem to exist
60k being borrowed repeatedly at interactive brokers is not "non existent" DJ
Awesome, the shorting has slowed down. Time to move back up soon
Where in that article do we see the CEO or the actual company implicated in any way.
Huh? SMCE is doing and operating business as usual in an office located not far from the SF Bay with a growing portfolio of clients, artists and now films. SMCE has been in business for about 10 years.
They are also partners with INgrooves, Universal Music Group and Lydia Harris Entertainment.
Calling it a scam of any sort would be
Equivalent to calling Universal, Lydia Harris or INgrooves scammers
The float remains the same from day to day to day for months except one little small chunk that was from and old shareholder we found out. Not a big deal whatsoever bc it's not the company selling. And the float is under 4m! Ridiculously small.
I saw a stock trading near the same price range (but much larger float) traded over 20m shares (5x's SMCE float) if and when SMCE trades that, this thing will fly to multi dollars overnight
The company is not selling shares. Company's that's are in the business of selling shares float changes daily. That has not been occurring with SMCE.
No Shorting? Well interactive brokers showed as much as 60k shares being borrowed repeatedly. If there's no shorting then why were shares being borrowed? Shares only get borrowed for one reason. To short. It wasn't imaginary.
If don't like the company or don't believe in the future of the company. Then nobody has to invest. No biggie. But our ladies and gentlemen are loading and collecting as much shares as possible