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Busy 3 months coming with agm this month too
Brilliant Mining starts commercial production at Deacon
2008-03-31 07:07 MT - News Release
Mr. John Robins reports
BRILLIANT MINING CORP.: PRODUCTION COMMENCES 18 MONTHS AFTER DISCOVERY AT HIGH-GRADE DEACON OREBODY LANFRANCHI NICKEL MINE, KAMBALDA DISTRICT OF WESTERN AUSTRALIA
Brilliant Mining Corp. has commenced commercial production from the recently discovered high-grade Deacon orebody at the Lanfranchi nickel mine, Kambalda district, Western Australia.
Key point summary (100-per-cent basis):
* Commencement of production at Deacon with a probable reserve of 1.7 million tonnes grading 2.54 per cent Ni for 43,000 tonnes (95 million pounds) contained Ni metal;
* Deacon orebody -- 18 months from discovery to production;
* Deacon will significantly contribute to the ramp-up in production at the Lanfranchi nickel mine targeted at 400,000 tonnes grading 2.65 per cent for 10,500 tonnes (23.1 million pounds) Ni metal for calendar 2008.
The Deacon orebody -- a success story
The Deacon orebody was discovered in September, 2006, and subsequent drill delineation, resource estimation, reserve modelling and capital development were completed in 18 months. The Deacon orebody now represents 70 per cent of the proven and probable reserves for the entire property. This highlights the overall exploration potential for the project and the ability to bring a new discovery into production within a short time frame.
Planned increase in production at Lanfranchi mine
The company announced a preliminary production forecast (see news release in Stockwatch dated May 29, 2007) for the high-grade Lanfranchi nickel mine and remains on track to achieve targeted production levels. The commencement of mining from Deacon signals a major milestone for the Lanfranchi mine as the scales dramatically shift from capital development toward production with four out of five scheduled orebodies now in production. An updated production forecast is currently under way and expected to be finalized by the end of the second quarter 2008.
Riots rock Yemen
Submitted by Bill Weinberg on Fri, 04/04/2008 - 06:51.
Tanks have been deployed in parts of southern Yemen after a fifth day of angry protests by thousands of mostly young people. Youth are blocking roads and burning tires, and up to 100 have been arrested. In al-Dalea, two police station were torched, and military vehicles burned, while riot police fired into the air and used tanks against street barricades. In response, armed protesters threw up roadblocks on the main road between the capital, Sanaa, and the port of Aden, halting traffic.
The unrest started in the Radfan region of al-Dalea province March 30 and spread the next day to the province of Lahj. President Ali Abdullah Saleh called an emergency meeting of the National Defense Council on April 3. Al-Dalea residents report that one of at least 14 people wounded had died. The official Saba news agency said April 2 there were no fatalities.
Rising food prices helped trigger the protests. The price of wheat has doubled since February, while rice and vegetable oil have gone up 20%. Disaffection in southern Yemen has been long-standing following the civil war of 1994, in which the south lost its independence. Southerners say a government amnesty granting former southern soldiers re-admission to the army has not been fulfilled, and that they are kept out of government jobs.
Four killed as Haitians riot over prices
Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:05am BST
By Joseph Guyler Delva
PORT-AU-PRINCE (Reuters) - Four people were killed in southern Haiti when demonstrators protesting the high cost of living clashed with security forces, a local official said on Friday.
The United Nations said protesters rioted in the town of Les Cayes on Thursday, burning shops, shooting at peacekeepers and looting containers at a U.N. compound.
"At least four people have been killed and about 20 others wounded," said Gabriel Fortune, a senator from the southern region, who condemned the violent behaviour of the demonstrators.
"The movement started well, but it was spoiled by the intrusion of a number of criminals that have nothing to do with the legitimate demands of the population," said Fortune.
Food prices in Haiti, the poorest country in the Americas, have soared in recent months, stoking anger against the government of President Rene Preval.
Preval's election in 2006 raised expectations that the country would finally start on the path to stability after decades of turbulence, culminating in the February 2004 ouster of former president Jean-Bertrand Aristide.
Les Cayes was tense after the riots and the U.N. force trying to maintain peace in the volatile Caribbean country sent 100 peacekeepers as reinforcements, the U.N. statement said.
A small group of protesters broke into the U.N. compound in Les Cayes, damaging the main gate and ignoring warning shots from peacekeepers, the statement said.
"The protesters also burned shops in Les Cayes and threw rocks and fired weapons at some of the blue helmets during the night."
At least two U.N. vehicles were burned, demonstrators threw rocks at cars and at least one woman was raped, according to local officials and radio reports.
"This hunger is unbearable and the government has to act now, otherwise we will burn down and destroy everything," a demonstrator shouted into a local reporter's microphone.
At a news conference, Prime Minister Jacques Edouard Alexis denounced what he called manipulation of the protests.
"We know that these demonstrations have been infiltrated by individuals linked to drug dealers and other smugglers," he said, calling on the protesters to stop the demonstrations.
Alexis said the government had immediately made available about $10 million (5 million pounds) to help fight the high cost of living. He announced job creation and credit programs and said food would be distributed and fertilizer prices cut in half.
Haiti, which shares the island of Hispaniola with the more prosperous Dominican Republic, has been relatively tranquil recently, although a resurgence in kidnappings and crime has alarmed the United Nations.
Just under 9,000 Brazilian-led U.N. peacekeepers and civilian police are stationed in Haiti.
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon this week called on the international community and Haiti's leaders to keep up their efforts to bring stability to the country. "The potential for regression remains," he said in a report.
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Raytec agm on April 23rd
pyramid scheme
Shouldnt we be at $6 with API and AGP now?
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World Bank: Zoellick Calls For Coordinated Effort To Cope With Rising Food Prices
The World Bank has called on the international community to coordinate its efforts in a "New Deal" to fight global hunger and malnutrition. Action is urgently needed, says the bank, because of soaring global food and energy prices.
In a speech in Washington on April 2 and posted on the World Bank website, President Robert Zoellick sounded the alarm over skyrocketing food prices, saying the time had come for coordinated international action to avert a potential crisis.
"Food policy needs to gain the attention of the highest political levels because no one country or group can meet these interconnected challenges," Zoellick said. "We should start by helping those whose needs are absolutely most immediate. The UN's World Food Program says that they require at least $500 million of additional food supplies to meet emergency calls. The United States, the European Union, Japan, and other [Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development] countries must act now to fill that gap -- or many people will suffer and starve."
Zoellick called for a "New Deal" to tackle the problem -- a term associated with U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt's policies amid the Great Depression, including a series of public works, government aid, and reform programs. Those coordinated actions were aimed at helping people survive economic hardship and the country recover.
Zoellick's international "New Deal" would combine food aid with a global trade agreement to lower tariffs and help farmers in developing countries gain access to markets.
Zoellick said the time was "now or never" to break the impasse in global trade talks. He argued that a fairer and more open trading system would boost food production and stabilize markets. Citing dire statistics, he said there was no time to lose.
"As financial markets have tumbled, food prices have soared," Zoellick said. "Since 2005, the price of staples has jumped 80 percent. Last month, the real price of rice hit a 19-year high. The real price of wheat rose to a 28-year high and almost twice the average price for the last 25 years. The good news for some farmers adds a crushing load to the most vulnerable."
Zoellick also proposed a series of parallel initiatives to deal with issues from climate change to women's rights that affect economic growth.
"The World Bank group estimates that 33 countries around the world face potential unrest because of the acute hike in food and energy prices. For these countries, where food comprises from half to three-quarters of consumption, there is no margin for survival," Zoellick said. "The realities of demography, changing diets, energy prices and biofuels, and climate changes, suggest that high and volatile food prices will be with us for years to come. We need a 'New Deal' for global food policy. This new deal should focus not only on hunger and malnutrition, access to food and its supply, but also on the interconnections with energy, yields, climate change, investment, the marginalization of women and others, and economic resiliency and growth."
The World Bank chief urged rich and emerging economies that currently hold an estimated $3 trillion in reserves in so-called sovereign wealth funds to invest at least 1 percent of that money in Africa, into agricultural initiatives.
The World Bank has announced it will nearly double its agricultural assistance to $800 million in Africa.
Gonna take it to Vancouver tonight, maybe Paul will be at the game with some visitors.
How about a listing on Toronto?
doesn't take much to get you guys excited lol
lets have the Chinese make us an offer and the Indians counter that
Food Price Crisis To Worsen
Sydney, Apr 4, 2008 (ABN Newswire) - Across the developing and emerging economies of the world, and in some developed economies for that matter, governments are opting to shoulder some of the burden of higher food prices or try and control their immediate direction.
The efforts are likely to be fruitless and very expensive for the countries involved, consumers and taxpayers.
From India to Egypt governments are slashing import tariffs on foodstuffs and curbing exports, as well as boosting subsidies: all to try and ease the impact of what will be the big story of 2008 and 2009 - the soaring cost of food.
As we reported this week, an exploding price for rice is the latest cause of much government action.
Egypt, India, the Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia, Cambodia, parts of Africa, Mexico, Italy, China, Russia, Argentina: the list is growing by the day of governments who now see the rising cost of food and all the social and political problems that brings, as far more important that good governance, low debt, the US recession, subprime debt or American foreign and economic policy.
Even in the developed world the impact is startling. Biofuels in Asia, Europe and the US are withering because of rising costs for corn, canola and palm oil. Food riots have happened in Mexico over the cost of tortilla flour. Italians have protested about the sharp rise in the cost of flour for pasta and bread.
Farmers are being blamed in some countries, such as Argentina and parts of Europe; in the US it's causing an explosion in land values and incomes in parts of the country that have been slowly withering away.
The irony won't be lost on Americans that in the midst of a recession farmers and some of the biggest companies in the US (think Cargill and Archer Midland) will be booming, some with record incomes, and much of it (like Europe) subsidised.
Longer term, however, the side-effects of this largesse will be ugly. Forgoing revenues and paying subsidies hurts national budgets.
India, for example, spent $US600 million on rice and wheat subsidies in 2004-05. Given the surge in rice, maize and wheat prices since then, the cost could be up by a third to a half: something approaching $US1 billion, which a country like India can ill afford, even in the midst of its boom (which is slowing anyway).
In the Philippines, the rice subsidy could top the half a billion dollar mark this year, according to the Asian Development Bank, and the country is scouring Asia and the US for around 1.5 million tonnes of rice at subsidised prices because its stocks have run down.
Indonesia which is thinking of banning some rice exports, like China, India, Vietnam and Egypt, may have to pay $US2.2 billion in food subsidies this year, or around 3% of spending by the national government.
That's three times earlier estimates.
Nearby Malaysia is looking to boost rice imports and hitting a wall because the Philippines has been mopping up as much grain as it can get.
Indonesia and many other countries in Asia also subsidise energy costs and they have skyrocketed with the rise in oil prices over the past three years.
Indonesia is thinking of cutting rice exports, even though it will have a surplus this year of around two million tonnes (it imported just over 1 million tonnes in 2007).
Soaring food and fuel prices are driving global inflation. Consumer prices in China hit an annual rate of 8.7% in February, an 11-year high, and reached a 13-month peak in India of 6.8%.
World prices for rice, wheat, soybeans and corn have all increased sharply: rice and wheat prices have doubled in the year - rice is up 30% or more in a week.
Oil prices are up more than 50% in the past year, and more for some derivatives. High petrol prices in the US, now at record levels, are pointing to further upward pressures in the American summer and the so-called driving season when they usually spike in July-August.
The United Nations warned in February that 36 countries, including China, face food emergencies this year, as stockpiles of grains such as rice, wheat, corn and soybeans drop to multi-decade lows around the world and in key supplier nations like the US and Australia.
The World Bank said this week it considered soaring food and fuel prices as greater challenges to East Asian governments than the financial turmoil in the United States and slowing global growth.
Since 2003, oil and non-oil commodity prices have respectively more than tripled and doubled. However, of greater immediate concern for policy makers is the surge in commodity prices over the last 6–9 months––especially for food––that has pushed headline inflation higher and sparked concerns about the adverse effect on the poor.
"In the medium-term the answer clearly lies in greater fuel efficiency, stronger and more productive global agriculture and an open international trading system. But in the short-term the bigger concern is to alleviate the harsh burden this imposes on the poor," the bank said this week.
As we said yesterday, it's a similar outlook from the Asian Development Bank.
"The major risk lies not so much in softer growth but in rising commodity prices and accelerating inflation,'' the Bank said yesterday. "Appropriate macroeconomic responses to accelerating inflation are likely to include tighter monetary policy and some exchange-rate appreciation.''
"Indeed, published inflation rates disguise the true extent of underlying inflation pressures due to the presence of subsidies, administrative price controls and cuts in excise taxes," it said.
The subsidies used by many governments in the region to cushion the impact of soaring fuel and food prices are posing a threat to budgets and the bank said that cash handouts to the poor may be a better and cheaper option.
"If governments do not rethink these expensive and inefficient subsidy programs, fiscal costs could escalate sharply and require painful adjustments (or accelerating inflation, or both) later," the ADB said.
"Carefully targetted direct income support for the poor, within strict budgetary limits, might better alleviate stresses, and at much lower cost."
Saudi Arabia has cut import taxes across a range of food products this week, slashing its wheat tariff from 25% to zero and reducing tariffs on poultry, dairy produce and vegetable oils.
On Monday, India scrapped tariffs on edible oil and maize and banned exports of all rice except the high-value basmati variety, while Vietnam, the world's third biggest rice exporter, said it would cut rice exports by 11%.
In Argentina, farmers called off a protest against attempts by the government of President Cristina Fernández to redistribute the benefits of rising commodity prices by increasing export taxes on soybeans and other crops.
The World Bank said this week in its half year report:
Non-oil commodity prices increased 15 percent in dollar terms over 2007, a fifth year of solid dollar price gains.
That was only a precursor to even more rapid 20 percent gains in just the first 2 months of 2008. Grains, edible oils, and metals prices have been especially buoyant in recent months, supported by strong investment and physical demand (the latter especially from developing countries) as well as by a variety of more specific factors on both the demand and supply sides of the markets.
Low initial stocks; rising input costs (especially energy); competition for limited arable land; weather-related production shortfalls; and strong demand for food, animal feeds, and biofuels have produced a surge in prices for corn, wheat, rice, and soybeans.
Grain and edible oil prices rose 21 percent and 15 percent, respectively, in just the first 2 months of 2008.
Metals prices gained 27 percent in the same period, led by iron ore, copper, lead, aluminum, and precious metals.
China's consumption of the 6 main metals traded on the London Metal Exchange (LME) grew by nearly one-third, or 5.8 million tons, in 2007, up from an average 16 percent growth rate in the previous 7 years.
Growth in Chinese demand alone more than offset lower 2007 consumption in the OECD. A 21 percent increase in China's steel production––the largest in the world––helped set the scene for a 65 percent increase in iron ore prices in early 2008.
The pattern of terms of trade losses and gains in 2008 should be qualitatively similar to that of the last four years, but with higher food prices adding a new twist.
Higher food prices are expected to have relatively small effects at the level of national income––as distinct from possible distributional effects––in economies such as Cambodia, Indonesia, and Lao PDR.
Economies such as China, Philippines, and Papua New Guinea could see somewhat larger net losses of approximately 0.5 percent of GDP.
On the other hand, rice exporters such as Thailand and Vietnam likely will see substantial income gains because of high rice prices.
Combining the effect of higher food prices with those of additional increases in oil and metals prices, the region could experience an aggregate income loss of approximately 1 percent of GDP in 2008.
Income losses of this size perhaps could have been overlooked when the region's economy was growing very rapidly in 2006-07.
However, they could have a more negative effect if the global credit market crisis results in significantly lower growth in East Asia.
The sharp rise in international food prices is likely to have a significant impact on the living standards of the poor throughout the developing world, posing one of the more urgent and difficult problems facing governments today.
Food comprises a larger share of the consumption basket of the population in most developing East Asian economies than it does in developed countries. In the U.S. the share of food in the consumption basket of the average household is 15 percent, while in East Asia it ranges between 31 and 50 percent (31 percent in Malaysia, 34 percent in China, 36 percent in Thailand, 40 percent in Indonesia, 43 percent in Vietnam, and 50 percent in the Philippines).
In Cambodia the share of food in total consumption is 59 percent in rural areas and 40 percent in urban. Internationally traded food products are also a large proportion of the food consumption of the poor – 56 percent in Cambodia for example, and 64 percent in Vietnam.
The impact of food price increases on the poor also depends on whether they are net food consumers whose real income will be reduced by higher food prices, or net producers of food, who will tend to benefit.
The urban poor and landless rural workers are generally net food consumers as, typically, are a significant fraction of poor small landholders.
In Cambodia these three types of poor households comprise 46 percent of the poor, with another 18 percent being small land holders who are self-sufficient but not net sellers of food.
In Vietnam the proportion of net consumers among the poor is 47 percent, with another 19 percent being net self-sufficient. In Indonesia 76 percent of the poor are net rice buyers, including some 72 percent of the rural poor.
Here it is estimated that every 10 percent increase in rice prices reduces the real value of the expenditure of poorest tenth of the population by 2 percent.
Other things being equal, the surge in food prices is therefore likely to increase poverty in the low and lower middle income countries of the region, although against that must be set the poverty reducing impact of continued robust economic growth.
We estimate that every 1 percent increase in per capita consumption reduces the poverty rate for East Asia as a whole by around 1 percent (at the $1 a day level). In the slightly longer term there will also be a supply response as net food consumers move towards becoming net food producers in response to higher prices.
What the net effect of these complex interactions on poverty rates in the region in 2008 will be is not yet clear.
But it seems probable that, depending on how much food prices increase during the year, the pace of poverty reduction in the region will not be as rapid as in the recent past and may even reverse. (Poverty rates at the $1 a day level fell by 11-12 percent a year in 2002-2007, while those at the $2 day level fell by 8-9 percent a year.).
Rising food prices are quickly taking on a high profile around the region, eliciting a range of policy responses.
Broadly speaking these have been designed to protect the poor through new or existing safety net programs or to moderate the rise in food prices by one means or another. The instruments applied are generally fiscal measures such as taxes and subsidies or administrative measures.
In other countries, such as Vietnam, government strategy is to design and adopt safety net programs that are universal but where participation by the poor is fully subsidized and participation by the near poor is partially subsidized.
Days of dollar parity at end, loonie likely to fall below 90 cents US: RBC
Thu Apr 3, 11:18 AM The Canadian Press
OTTAWA - The high-flying loonie is likely to descend to the 90-cent-US level later this year and continue weakening into next year, says a new forecast from Canada's largest bank.
The Royal Bank research report predicts the Canadian economy will outperform that of its southern neighbour, but a U.S. recovery in the second half of 2008 and the curtailment of Federal Reserve interest rate cuts will strengthen the American dollar.
"By the end of the year, we expect the loonie to average 90.9 US cents," says the report from RBC economist Craig Wright.
"This depreciating trend will extend into 2009 with the currency dropping further to 87 US cents by the end of that year."
The loonie has been near or above parity with the greenback for half a year, hitting a record $1.10 in November and trading Thursday morning at 99.08 cents.
The RBC forecast agrees with most other economic outlooks that the domestic economy will slow as the U.S. slump drags down Canadian exports and the manufacturing sector.
Food Bills Getting You Down? Try Dumpster Diving
By Nicole McClelland, AlterNet
Posted on April 1, 2008, Printed on April 3, 2008
http://www.alternet.org/story/80887/
It's dark outside, as it tends to be past midnight, and unseasonably warm but raining. Though it was my idea to be parked behind Trader Joe's, scoping out the dumpster, I didn't really want to come; I'm kind of lazy in general, and specifically nervous right now, and it's so much easier to just make a list and go buy groceries in a sheltered, lighted shopping facility where you are guaranteed to both find what you want and avoid police harassment.
My nerdiness is showing: Before we get out of the car, I turn to my partner in crime and ask, "What's the plan?"
Dan looks at me. I've heard about dumpster diving, and read about dumpster diving, but in conversations and articles that seemed to identify it as the pursuit of anarchists and gutter punks --nothing that served as a guide for upwardly mobile middle-class squares. A few weeks ago, though, some hippie Dan went to high school with mentioned she was going to Trader Joe's to score for free the very same foodstuffs we paid good money for. It was just as good, just as edible and sanitarily packaged, and it didn't cost $100 a week if it just came out of the trash, she said. We felt like suckers.
"You're gonna get in there and grab the shit," Dan says. He starts laughing at me, like, what do I mean what's the plan? When I still don't make a move, he says, "Now ... break!"
We walk to the dumpster across the parking lot, but no one's around, and no one suddenly appears and starts yelling, as I'm for some reason expecting. We're in the kind of upscale outdoor mall complex where dumpsters are surrounded by gates, but the kind of gates that serve cosmetic rather than security purposes and give way easily when pushed. So just like that, I'm standing in front of a giant metal trash receptacle, one taller than me, with a chest-high opening in it. I quickly and incorrectly assess it, deciding that I can approach my objective from the outside and just reach in to gingerly lift the goods out.
My dreams of clean and easy die quickly; the dumpster is less than a quarter full, and I can't get hold of anything but piles of discarded shrink-wrap. "I don't think there's any food in here, pal," I say, disappointed, but maybe a bit relieved. I'm about to advocate giving up and going home when I pull out a cardboard box containing three sealed bags of perfectly comestible banana chips. "Except how there's food right here."
Picking up that first handful of free groceries is a bit like Christmas, exciting, enchanting. I hadn't known what I was going to get, so I hold the goods out in front of me for inspection. And here it is, my favorite kind of present: something I want and can actually use. I feel satisfied and, absurdly, a little proud. I planted some initiative, and it is bearing fruit, sliced, deep-fried, hermetically sealed pieces of fruit. I grab the sides of the window into the dumpster and climb in.
It wasn't an especially big throw-away day at the store, but I stand shin-deep amid the waste with a snake light wrapped around my neck, tearing open huge clear plastic garbage bags and examining their contents for salvageable eats. A sweet pepper, a dented tub of chocolate chip cookies, yes. A package of precooked sausages leaking juice out of a hole in the package, no. Half-pound hunks of somewhat moldy Monterey Jack cheese, sure. I sink my cotton-gloved hands into some items wet and unsavory-busted salsa containers, broken eggs, smashed bananas, while rain drips through the crack in the two-piece lid above my head. Liquid soaks into my socks: milk, I think, from the layer of discarded half-gallon cartons lining the bottom of the dumpster.
"This is actually a little grosser than I thought it was going to be," I say, as, even though I earlier pictured myself standing in a giant trash bin, I never actually considered the tactile details. I work out a system, sifting thoroughly through one corner first and then tossing bags into it after I clear it for items I want, which I hand to Dan. Nobody comes by. Nobody asks us what the hell we think we're doing. Half an hour after we parked the car, we walk back to it with seven plastic bags full of food. We go home, unload our groceries, just like we would after any other trip, and take showers, unlike we would after any other trip. We eat some garbage cookies, and go to bed.
It was a lucrative score: two bananas, one half-gallon of organic 2 percent milk, two prepared and packaged Asian-style noodle salads with ginger cilantro lime dressing, one red pepper, one orange pepper, one package prewashed salad, one package Asian stir-fry mix, one package organic mini chocolate chip cookies, one prepared and packaged chef salad, one prepared and packaged Greek salad, one prepared and packaged chicken Caesar salad, one sausage and roasted tomato pizza, one package sliced white mushrooms, six apricots, two bags cocktail tomatoes, three carrot and ranch dip snack packs, a half a pound of ginger, 1.5 pounds petite Yukon gold potatoes, 1 pound green olives, 1.5 pounds eggs, 1.5 pounds Monterey Jack cheese, 3 pounds California minneolas, 5 pounds clementines, 2 pounds rainbow carrots, three packages banana chips, one package fresh basil, 24 roma tomatoes, one package fat-free crumbled feta, one prepared and packaged fresh mozzarella and focaccia sandwich, two mixed flower bouquets, one bouquet Gerber daisies, and one dozen rainbow roses.
The next morning, Dan is already making cheese omelets and fried potatoes with our booty when I saunter out of bed. At lunch, we split the focaccia sandwich (after we scraped the mold off the mozzarella), and I invent a banana, apricot, and clementine smoothie. As I walk around our apartment, abloom with fresh flowers, I feel unusually fulfilled by the glass of dairy and pulp in my hand. It's not like I grew the fruit. Still, I've come by it by slightly more industrious means than grocery shopping, and I can't wait for the impending week of garbage dinner.
The USDA says Dan and I each eat almost 5 pounds of food every day, but more than enough food gets tossed in the United States for us to scavenge from: about 100 billion pounds annually, in fact, enough to also feed the entire great states of California and New York, more than a sixth of the entire population of the country. Retailers are responsible for some 70 percent of that waste, $30 billion worth. Even recovering just 5 percent of American food waste would feed the whole of New Zealand for a day. And if heartbreaking resource squandering isn't a compelling enough reason to dumpster dive, there's thriftiness. If you're like most Americans, you spend about 13 percent of your income on eating -- and environmental impact. In 2006, more than 12 percent of total municipal solid waste was food. And if you have neither hippie sensibilities, nor pocketbook constraints, nor a soul, how about good old-fashioned economic sense: putting said food into landfills costs taxpayers $50 million a year.
All things considered, the arguments for dumpster diving seem stronger than any against it. Though some cities and states have passed laws criminalizing it (it's not a federal offense, as the Supreme Court ruled in 1988 that searching and seizing garbage isn't prohibited), and the fact that our particular dumpster lives inside a fence means accessing it probably requires trespassing, cops don't generally patrol my grocery store parking lot at night, and I'd be surprised if I couldn't sweet-talk or run my way out of an incident with any officer bored enough to instigate one. There's also the concern, voiced by many of my friends, that food from a dumpster could be bad for you. Indeed, Dan has to drink half a glass of the milk and exhibit no signs of disaster for 20 minutes before I'm convinced it's safe. And all week, for about an hour after I eat, a small portion of my consciousness inadvertently waits for regrets. But we've got bright bouquets and a huge vat of homemade salsa and a mushroom, tomato, and cheese quiche and crazy smoothies and stir-fried vegetables over noodles, and it was all made possible, free of charge, by trash picking. I have only one concern at the end of the first week of eating garbage, and it's that I didn't take as much as I should have.
When we return the next week, we're like cool, regular shoppers, except that we're freezing -- 150 miles north of us, the sky is dumping a foot of snow on Cleveland. Still, we're not just grabbing madly, enthusiastic but directionless rookies. We have a running conversation about what I've picked up and how we can use it before we take it or I chuck it behind me. I'm neither hurried nor worried, and we score fruits and vegetables and already-mashed potatoes and a potted purple orchid and waffles and chai spice cookies and frozen chicken masala, among other things. We're thoughtful and thorough, and it's 45 minutes before I start to climb back out, tired and accomplished. Not that it's all glamorous. When Dan says, "Watch out for rats," I yell at him for freaking me out, but I am most certainly immersed in the habitat of disease-prone rodents. When I do jump out, it's right onto the ground, right onto my ass when my feet slide out from under me because the pavement is covered in ice. Like last time, we can't find a parking space in our complex when we get back to our apartment because we live in a busy downtown district and it's club-going time on a Friday night. We run the garbage groceries, which for some reason are coated in the smell of trash this time, a block to our building and then up four flights of fire escape to our door. My fingers are that obnoxious biting pain that just precedes numbness, since I buried them in several unidentified stinky wet stuffs, and the wind is cutting across them now as they grip the plastic bags. Everything needs to be washed -- the cellophane on the cheese, the box of waffles -- to get the reek off, and we crack open a box of baking soda and put it in the back of the fridge, hoping it'll help restore appetizingness to our food. It's 2 a.m. by the time we've put everything away, mopped the kitchen floor, rolled my malodorous tomato-and-roasted-red-pepper-soup-splattered clothes into a ball before reluctantly throwing them in with the rest of our laundry, and cleaned ourselves up. I soaked in the bathtub for half an hour to get the cold -- which seeped in during the 40 minutes we had to kill wandering around the shopping center while waiting for the employees to finally leave, the time I spent wallowing in trash, and the additional carry back to the apartment -- out of my system. Lying there, my wrist throbbing from having used it to break my fall on the ice, I felt exhausted and dirty and not a little discouraged.
My socioeconomic surroundings are showing: When my father calls and asks me what I was doing last night and I say, "Dumpster diving," he says, "For what?" And when I say, "For food," there's nothing but silence. Then, as if he hasn't heard me: "What?" My best friend came over a few days earlier and complained that she was hungry. "Do you have any delicious food?" she asked, then reconsidered. "That you haven't gotten out of the garbage?" And yeah, some of the food in our fridge has to be picked free of mold before it can be eaten, and the Jack cheese has a stink that (a) makes me uncomfortable and (b) doesn't want to come off my hands. (Ultimately, we decide to re-toss it.) Yeah, we could have been arrested. Yeah, we could get food poisoning, or rabies. But when we roll out of bed late the morning after our second dive, the apartment smells fine, and we fix a breakfast of trash waffles and bananas before sitting down to make a list of groceries we still need. We consider our loot. We can make havarti, rice, and broccoli casserole. Spinach quesadillas with cheddar, mushrooms, and sauteed sweet peppers, with homemade salsa. Mashed sweet potatoes or sweet potato chowder. Warm green bean and tomato salad. Stir fry. Banana smoothies. We've recovered an entire apple pie. We figure our meal plan four different ways, and have so much food left over that we freeze some. When we finish the list of groceries we have to buy for two people for a whole week, it contains exactly five items.
Before we started dumpster diving, Dan pointed out that it would probably change our eating habits. I like to make enchiladas, for example, but it's unlikely that beans, rice, cheese, tomatoes, onions, and tortillas are all going to happen into the dumpster at the same time. I wouldn't normally eat carrots and ranch dip for breakfast, or salad for dessert, but the organizing principle of our diet has changed from "What do I want to eat?" to "What do I have? What can I make with it?" -- a much more traditional (and at the same time ultramodern, as eating local has come back into fashion) type of interaction with food. Once, when we were working on an organic farm in the South Pacific, the owner told us that if we were true ecologists, we would during the feijoa season eat only feijoas, the little green fruits that his orchard was showering us with. Like then, I won't now make such extreme compromises -- I refuse, for example, to live without milk or olive oil, so we spend $20 at the grocery store that week.
Still. We could be spending $0 on food by harvesting waste, and even with my unwillingness to make stir fry instead of cereal for breakfast, in just two trips we saved hundreds of dollars. We ate things we never would have, got creative with our menus, kept 60 pounds of edible "garbage" out of a landfill.
Dumpster diving is another one of those things that I should do for both money and the environment's sake, like buying only used clothes or not taking long, hot showers. It's kind of like going to the gym: You never want to, but after you have, you feel like you've really achieved something. The next week, though, the snow comes south and hard. Then soon after that, I get a new job and move, and the dumpsters in my neighborhood are inside garages I can't get into, and I work a lot of overtime, and I have a litany of other excuses for not salvaging groceries anymore (as I do for not taking short, cold showers). It's another way that I'm part of the culture of waste, wasting resources, wasting money.
Standing at the sink one day in my trash-eating time, I had a moment of characteristic grace in which I somehow tossed the quiche I was holding down the garbage disposal. I cursed, then threw down my dish towel, and then my shoulders. Dan, sensing a tantrum, rushed into the kitchen from the other room. "It's OK, pal," he said. "It was from the garbage anyway." True. But I couldn't believe I'd done it, just like I can't believe restaurants and grocery stores around the country so recklessly and wildly dump whole analogous quiches down the metaphorical drain every second. Like I feel a little ridiculous shopping at Trader Joe's when I know that for every four tomatoes I once took out of the dumpster, I left four dozen.
That one time, there were more than 100 pounds of discarded bananas in the parking lot, that I could entirely subsistent on trash without even making a dent in it, that for every bag of salad that made it from the garbage to my fridge, there were five more that someone else could've eaten. For the grocers and restaurateurs, throwing the food in dumpsters is, however exorbitantly wasteful, a matter of convenience. As leaving it there is for me. "I don't know," one of my friends says when I try to talk her into just getting her food out of the garbage. "That's a really good idea. But it sounds like a lot of work."
Why Coke uses High Fructose Corn Syrup
01/11/06 @ 02:30:00 pm, by Kate Hopkins
I mentioned this in the comments of the previous post, but I think the numbers are fairly important...
Some quick numbers, on why Coke would use HFCS over sugar.
Annual US Per capita consumption of Coke in servings: 411
People in the United States: 297,890,000
Servings of Coke in the US, per year: 122,432,790,000
How much a 5 cent cost increase in sweetner, per serving, would affect the bottom line of Coca Cola: $6,121,639,500
How much a penny cost increase in sweetner, per serving, would cost Coca-Cola:
$1,224,327,900
How much 1/10th of a cent increase in sweetner, per serving, would cost Coca-Cola:
$122,423,790. Still nothing to sneeze at
That's a cost saving in the billions over years time. Of course, what Coke doesn't tell you is that your tax dollars are supporting their profit margins.
You can thank Corn subsidies for that.
Products that use Corn:
Adhesives (glues, pastes, mucilages, gums, etc.)
Aluminum
Antibiotics (penicillin)
Asbestos insulation
Aspirin
Automobiles (everything on wheels)
xxx- cylinder heads
xxx- ethanol - fuel & windshield washer fluid
xxx- spark plugs
xxx- synthetic rubber finishes
xxx- tires
Baby food
Batteries, dry cell
Beer
Breakfast cereals
Candies
Canned vegetables
Carbonated beverages
Cheese spreads
Chewing gum
Chocolate products
Coatings on wood, paper & metal
Colour carrier in paper & textile, printing
Corn chips
Corn meal
Cosmetics
C.M.A. (calcium magnesium acetate)
Crayon and chalk
Degradable plastics
Dessert powders
Dextrose (intravenous solutions, icing sugar)
Disposable diapers
Dyes
Edible oil
Ethyl and butyl alcohol
Explosives - firecrackers
Finished leather
Flour & grits
Frozen foods
Fructose
Fuel ethanol
Gypsum wallboard
Ink for stamping prices in stores
Insecticides
Instant coffee & tea
Insulation, fibreglass
James, jellies and preserves
Ketchup
Latex paint
Leather tanning
Licorice
Livestock feed
Malted products
Margarine
Mayonnaise
Mustard, prepared
Paper board, (corrugating, laminating, cardboard)
Paper manufacturing
Paper plates & Cups
Peanut butter
Pharmaceuticals - The Life Line of The Hospital
Potato chips
Rugs, carpets
Salad dressings
Shaving cream & lotions
Shoe polish
Soaps and cleaners
Soft drinks
Starch & glucose (over 40 types)
Syrup
Tacos, tortillas
Textiles
Toothpaste
Wallpaper
Wheat bread
Whiskey
Yogurts
Question: Of 10,000 items in a typical grocery store, how many would you guess would contain corn in one form or another?
Answer: At least 2,500 items use corn in some form during the production or processing.
Killer fungus spells disaster for wheat
Public release date: 12-Mar-2008
Contact: Henry Gomm
henry.gomm@rbi.co.uk
44-020-761-11206
New Scientist
A WHEAT disease that could destroy most of the world’s main wheat crops could strike south Asia’s vast wheat fields two years earlier than research had suggested, leaving millions to starve. The fungus, called Ug99, has spread from Africa to Iran, and may already be in Pakistan. If so, this is extremely bad news, as Pakistan is not only critically reliant on its wheat crop, it is also the gateway to the Asian breadbasket, including the vital Punjab region.
Scientists met this week in Syria to decide on emergency measures to track Ug99’s progress. They hope to slow its spread by spraying fungicide or even stopping farmers from planting wheat in the spores’ path. The only real remedy will be new wheat varieties that resist Ug99, and they may not be ready for five years. The fungus has just pulled ahead in the race.
Ug99, a virulent strain of black stem rust (Puccinia graminis) was identified in Uganda in 1999. Since then it has invaded Kenya and Ethiopia and, last year, Yemen. From previous fungal invasions, scientists expected the prevailing winds to carry Ug99 spores to Egypt, Turkey and Syria, and then east to Iran, a major wheat-grower, buying them some time. But on 8 June 2007, Cyclone Gonu hit the Arabian peninsula, the worst storm there for 30 years.
“We know it changed the winds,” says Wafa Khoury of the UN Food and Agriculture Organization in Rome, because desert locusts the FAO had been tracking in Yemen blew north towards Iran instead of northwest as expected. “We think it may have done that to the rust spores.” This means, she says, that Ug99 has reached Iran a year or two earlier than predicted. The fear is that the same winds could have blown the spores into Pakistan, which is also north of Yemen, and where surveillance of the fungus is limited.
There could be more unpleasant surprises in store. On mature wheat, the fungus reproduces asexually to release billions of identical spores. If the spores drift onto a barberry bush (Berberis vulgaris), however, they switch to sexual reproduction, and so could swap genes with other stem rusts to produce completely new variants. Iran is a hotspot for barberry.
Scientists have now found out how Ug99 took hold, says Rick Ward of CIMMYT, the wheat breeding institute in Mexico that started the Green Revolution. “It turns out most of Kenya was planted with a wheat variety that contained only one gene for rust resistance, SR24,” he told New Scientist.
“We advise at least two resistance genes,” says Ward. Wheat with the SR24 gene alone gives any Ug99 strains resistant to SR24 a huge advantage, just as misuse of antibiotics selects for antibiotic-resistant bacteria, says Ward. Farmers then switched to using wheat with other resistance genes and the same thing happened.
Ug99 is now resistant to the three major anti-rust genes used in nearly all the world’s wheat. “The real solution is disease resistance that relies on a number of genes,” says Ward. Wheat with multigene resistance does not so much destroy the fungus as slow it down. The hope is that with several genes involved it will be much harder for the fungus to become resistant and there will be less selection pressure for it to do so.
A breeding programme by CIMMYT and others has now uncovered some wheat types which “show promise” in tests against Ug99 in Kenya and Ethiopia, says Ronnie Coffman of Cornell University in Ithaca, New York, who chairs the programme. Funding has increased, as rich countries such as Canada and the US worry that Ug99 could hit their breadbaskets, accidentally or deliberately.
Without such fears, says Khouri, “it is hard to convince donors to take preventive actions, when people are not starving now”. But that may not be far off. “People will start starving if Ug99 cuts harvests enough to push up grain prices,” warns Ward.
The problem is that crop breeding is slow. It usually takes at least five years to cross disease-resistant lines with wheat varieties adapted to local conditions in the world’s wheat-growing countries, then grow enough seed to plant fields threatened by Ug99.
New Scientist has learned that China started a crash programme to breed resistance into Chinese wheat varieties last year, after an article on Ug99 in this magazine was translated into Chinese and circulated to top agriculture officials.
Chicken feed...
Gramma grab the gun!
Not on the payroll but on the job 24/7
Global wheat prices to fall in '08
Reuters Wednesday April 2 2008
By Will Rasmussen
SHARM EL-SHEIKH, Egypt, April 2 (Reuters) - Global wheat prices will probably fall from record levels this year as production expands, but depleted global stocks will lend some strength, a UN grain economist said on Wednesday.
"We expect prices to come down, but all indications point to the fact we won't go back to the low prices we've seen in the past," Abdolreza Abbassian of the UN's Food and Agriculture Organisation told Reuters at a conference in the Sinai resort town of Sharm el-Sheikh.
"The tight situation will be slightly improved in 2008/2009."
The price of wheat, the world's most exported grain, has hit record highs due to drought, rising food demand and increased use of grains as environmentally friendly biofuels.
Producers such as Russia and Ukraine have restricted exports to battle inflation fuelled by rocketing food prices, helping to further push up prices on the international market.
Abbassian said high prices would boost planting this season, but with global wheat stocks at 30-year lows, more production would not be enough to knock down prices significantly.
"Stocks have been depleted so much it will take more than one season to rebuild," he said.
Global wheat production could climb as much as 6-8 percent in 2008 with the total area planted for wheat rising by up to 2 percent, assuming normal weather, Abbassian said.
He said the European Union, the United States and Australia, which could boost production by 13 million tonnes this season depending on weather, would lead the global production increase.
"It's still very early, but it's possible Australia could regain its status as an exporter and even have a record harvest," he said.
The United States could boost production by 4 million tonnes, Abbassian said.
Prices for coarse grains would also fall, helped by a rise in production of between 1 and 2 percent in 2008, he said.
"The record prices we've seen perhaps won't be repeated, but maize prices could increase slightly," Abbassian said.
Some U.S. farmers could switch away from planting maize to wheat or soybeans to try to get better prices, he said.
The global area planted with coarse grains could decrease, he added.
Rise in food prices sparks unrest
Sub-Saharan Africa has been particularly hard hit by the rising global food costs.
By JULIEN SPENCER
posted April 02, 2008 at 10:40 am EDT
As international food prices have shot skyward, impoverished nations in Africa have been particularly hard hit. If the situation continues to deteriorate amid political turmoil and sharp inflation, unrest could deepen.
The World Food Program (WFP) says staple food prices have risen by as much as 40 percent in six months across parts of Africa. The Associated Press reports on the popular unrest in reaction to the increase:
The need for stable food supplies in Africa is especially serious, as lack of food in urban centers has driven hungry populations to riot. In February, riots hit Burkina Faso. Riots over food and fuel prices have also hit Mauritania, Mozambique and Senegal in the past few months.
As prices across the region soar (a graphic illustration can be found here), the Ivory Coast has seen renewed unrest, reports the BBC:
One person was killed and at least 10 others injured on Tuesday as security forces dispersed demonstrations across the economic capital, Abidjan.
Anti-riot police fired in the air and used tear gas in an attempt to disperse predominantly female demonstrators who had set up barricades, burned tyres and closed major roads.
According to Al Jazeera the riots were the latest in a series of demonstrations against the rising food prices:
The United Nations Development Programme estimates that nearly 49 per cent of Ivory Coast's 19 million people live below the poverty threshold of $2 a day.
"Before you could manage with 5,000 CFA a week," Margueritte Ahoule, a protester in her 60s, said.
"Now 5,000 francs doesn't feed a family for two days."
On Wednesday, the Ivory Coast government announced emergency measures to cut food prices, reports IRIN, the press service of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.
This week, India also took drastic government action seeking to curb the socially dangerous food inflation, reports Arab News:
On the brink of a food crisis, India on Monday night banned the export of non-Basmati rice and reduced import duties on edible oils.
As the BBC reports, the Indian decision could potentially spark further price increases that could worsen the international situation:
The price for exports of aromatic basmati rice has also been raised to $1,200 per tonne to discourage exports.
The move could have an impact on rice prices globally as the country is the third largest exporter of the grain – a staple food in many countries.
In a tour of Africa this week, WFP director Josette Sheeran says that "the cost of our food has doubled in just the last eight, nine months," reports the Associated Press:
"We are seeing a new face of hunger," she said. "We are seeing more urban hunger than ever before. Often we are seeing food on the shelves but people being unable to afford it."
Ms. Sheeran called it "a perfect storm" hitting the world's hungry. She attributed the deteriorating situation to a combination of factors, reports the Los Angeles Times:
Meteoric food and fuel prices, a slumping dollar, the demand for biofuels and a string of poor harvests have combined to abruptly multiply WFP's operating costs, even as needs increase. In other words, if the number of needy people stayed constant, it would take much more money to feed them. But the number of people needing help is surging dramatically.
The Christian Science Monitor reported recently on the scope of the problem worldwide:
Around the world, governments and aid groups are grappling with the escalating cost of basic grains. In December, 37 countries faced a food crisis, reports the UN Food and Agricultural Organization (FAO), and 20 nations had imposed some form of food-price controls.
And Reuters has documented the resulting unrest:
Anger over high food and fuel costs has spawned a rash of violent unrest across the globe in the past six months.
From the deserts of Mauritania to steamy Mozambique on Africa's Indian Ocean coast, people have taken to the streets. There have been "tortilla riots" in Mexico, villagers have clashed with police in eastern India and hundreds of Muslims have marched for lower food prices in Indonesia.
Yet, Africa appears more sensitive than other regions to rising food prices, reports Reuters:
Sub-Saharan Africa is particularly vulnerable: most people survive on less than $2 a day in countries prone to droughts and floods where agricultural processes are still often rudimentary.
For African households, even a small rise in the price of food can be devastating when meals are a family's main expense.
"People have been driven to destruction because they no longer know what to do or who to talk to," said Ousmane Sanou, a trader in Patte d'Oie, one of the areas worst hit by February riots in Burkina Faso's capital, Ouagadougou.
"They understand it's the only way to get the government to change things. Prices must come down – otherwise we're heading for a catastrophe."
Cuba puts unused land to work for farming
HAVANA, Cuba (AP) -- Cuba is lending unused land to private farmers and cooperatives as part of a sweeping effort to revitalize a floundering agricultural sector and step up food production.
Government television said Tuesday that 51 percent of arable land is underused or fallow, a problem officials hope to rectify by temporarily transferring some of it to private farmers and associations representing small, private producers.
The president of Cuba's national farmers association, Orlando Lugo, said "everyone who wants to produce tobacco will be given land to produce tobacco," and it will be the same for coffee or anything else.
The government began dolling out land last year, but announced the program this week.
It was not clear how much land had been transferred and under what terms
Potash One acquiring Saskatchewan exploration permits
2008-04-02 14:35 MT - Property Agreement
The TSX Venture Exchange has accepted for filing a purchase agreement dated March 26, 2008, between Potash One Inc. and Giant Potash Corporation, whereby the company will acquire three permits granting the right to explore and prospect for subsurface minerals in certain lands west of Regina, Sask., near its contingent Legacy potash project, and rights to applications for two additional permits in southeastern Saskatchewan.
Total consideration consists of $2,897,880 in cash payments and 1,408,000 shares of the company.
In addition, there is a finder's fee of $55,000 and 200,000 warrants exercisable for a period of two years at $4 per share payable to 0819806 B.C. Ltd. (Mani Chopra).
Depends, is this you?
Lets get these things rolling!!
Whats CKUA you ask? Here is what your missing...
Post Subject Posted By Time
#7612 nashvile losing 3/2 Rocketred 4/1/2008 9:46:22 PM
#7611 Red's branching out http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/readmsg KastelCo 4/1/2008 9:23:32 PM
#7610 ya oil needs too win and other teams Rocketred 4/1/2008 8:56:07 PM
#7609 There's no tomorrow johnlw 4/1/2008 8:50:33 PM
#7608 Do or die Tackler 4/1/2008 8:50:14 PM
#7607 Crunch Time! johnlw 4/1/2008 8:49:40 PM
#7606 Inflation Deflation Battle Arrow335 4/1/2008 5:09:17 PM
#7605 Land Once Preserved Now Being Farmed Arrow335 4/1/2008 4:21:28 PM
#7604 old news, anyone know where/who gets the tax Arrow335 3/31/2008 1:09:52 PM
#7603 well were still in the hunt Rocketred 3/30/2008 11:06:34 AM
#7602 lol i dint know that Tackler 3/29/2008 10:55:53 PM
#7601 GARON IS INJURED. Ed Monton 3/29/2008 10:51:48 PM
#7600 How the hell are ya man? Tackler 3/29/2008 10:46:02 PM
#7599 Who's going between the pipes tonight? Tackler 3/29/2008 10:06:12 PM
#7598 lots his composure after they tied it/but they Rocketred 3/29/2008 9:53:13 AM
#7597 Rolo stunk in that shoot out. Ed Monton 3/29/2008 7:55:39 AM
#7596 puck its down to a shoot out Rocketred 3/28/2008 11:48:38 PM
#7595 ya 3/3 tie Tackler 3/28/2008 10:25:00 PM
#7594 tie game Rocketred 3/28/2008 9:48:55 PM
#7593 .
#7592 Ta ta johnlw 3/28/2008 1:16:35 PM
#7591 LOL... KastelCo 3/28/2008 12:25:42 PM
#7590 That would be like going to a Oilers/Flames game. johnlw 3/28/2008 12:21:39 PM
#7589 Yeah it's evaporating rapidly in Toronto... Lots in KastelCo 3/28/2008 12:18:02 PM
#7588 rotflmao Rocketred 3/28/2008 12:16:47 PM
#7587 Isn't that the audience you are after with johnlw 3/28/2008 12:15:56 PM
#7586 Geez If someone say's jump over the bridge Rocketred 3/28/2008 12:15:00 PM
#7585 what a goof johnlw 3/28/2008 12:12:02 PM
#7584 Todd Bertuzzi suing Marc Crawford Rocketred 3/28/2008 12:11:25 PM
#7583 snowing here too Rocketred 3/28/2008 11:39:45 AM
#7582 Hockey weather here right now, got about 6" johnlw 3/28/2008 11:34:31 AM
#7581 Shrimp thriving in Strathmore johnlw 3/28/2008 6:58:32 AM
#7580 for good measure another post. Rocketred 3/26/2008 10:34:12 PM
#7579 not going to do it tonight Rocketred 3/26/2008 9:40:13 PM
#7578 Rod is a little worried johnlw 3/26/2008 9:37:56 PM
#7577 The Lobos: johnlw 3/26/2008 9:37:20 PM
#7576 3 zip but oilers had 3 posts and Rocketred 3/26/2008 9:36:31 PM
#7575 made 4 pennies on the short as gold Rocketred 3/26/2008 9:35:39 PM
#7574 So that means you closed the gold short KastelCo 3/26/2008 8:53:35 PM
#7573 lol 2 zip and not for us Rocketred 3/26/2008 8:42:38 PM
#7572 Big spender johnlw 3/26/2008 7:53:03 PM
#7571 i'm watching it live ppv Rocketred 3/26/2008 7:45:40 PM
#7570 PPV, have to settle for Sreamin' Rod johnlw 3/26/2008 7:40:23 PM
#7569 yes we need to steal some points Rocketred 3/26/2008 6:06:05 PM
#7568 Lets hope there's no tie in that game. Ed Monton 3/26/2008 6:04:30 PM
#7567 Canucks and Avalanche tonight,Oilers Wild Rocketred 3/26/2008 6:00:57 PM
#7566 Why not eh? johnlw 3/26/2008 5:40:53 PM
#7565 may be time to get the logo back ZavBar 3/26/2008 11:55:00 AM
#7564 Alberta's North johnlw 3/26/2008 8:53:06 AM
#7563 Boy, that would be an excellent time for johnlw 3/26/2008 8:30:57 AM
CKUA is in The Lounge | Coffee Shop which is a Premium board for subscribers only.
Does explain the high standard of your posters there.
lol yup thats it potash is finished so they are going digging in Gabon